Company office in a country with lower salaries
My company has the headquarter in a country A with salary rate X. The company has the development center in another country B where the salary for the developers are with 20-25 % lower that in country A.
Given the fact that developers from both countries have the same skill level regarding software development, as an employee from the country B how can I ask for a salary from country A even if I work in country B?
Because the company is spending the same amount of money (gross salary). Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
So is there a middle solution to stay in the company and get the raise?
How would you approach this issue?
PS: It's not about being underpaid, it's about being paid the same as other devs from the other country that are doing the same job
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My company has the headquarter in a country A with salary rate X. The company has the development center in another country B where the salary for the developers are with 20-25 % lower that in country A.
Given the fact that developers from both countries have the same skill level regarding software development, as an employee from the country B how can I ask for a salary from country A even if I work in country B?
Because the company is spending the same amount of money (gross salary). Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
So is there a middle solution to stay in the company and get the raise?
How would you approach this issue?
PS: It's not about being underpaid, it's about being paid the same as other devs from the other country that are doing the same job
salary international
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– mustaccio
10 hours ago
30
The entire point of opening an office in your country is so that they can pay you less... I promise you they would not have done it otherwise. If you don't like it (I don't blame you), work on moving to a country with a better economy.
– only_pro
8 hours ago
11
An acquaintance of mine did such a lateral move inside their company, and took a 30% pay cut for the exact same job after relocation. On the other hand, the place they re-located had lower rent, fantastic public services ( particularly free child care ) so in the end they ended up ahead quality of life wise.
– crasic
8 hours ago
4
How does your compensation compare locally?
– cdkMoose
7 hours ago
9
Consider that your Country A colleagues could make the exact same argument you're trying to make if you were indeed paid the same. If Country A has a much higher cost of living, those employees would receive a lower effective wage than you if you were paid the same numerical amount. Depending on taxes, they might even have a lower take-home pay than you!
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
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My company has the headquarter in a country A with salary rate X. The company has the development center in another country B where the salary for the developers are with 20-25 % lower that in country A.
Given the fact that developers from both countries have the same skill level regarding software development, as an employee from the country B how can I ask for a salary from country A even if I work in country B?
Because the company is spending the same amount of money (gross salary). Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
So is there a middle solution to stay in the company and get the raise?
How would you approach this issue?
PS: It's not about being underpaid, it's about being paid the same as other devs from the other country that are doing the same job
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My company has the headquarter in a country A with salary rate X. The company has the development center in another country B where the salary for the developers are with 20-25 % lower that in country A.
Given the fact that developers from both countries have the same skill level regarding software development, as an employee from the country B how can I ask for a salary from country A even if I work in country B?
Because the company is spending the same amount of money (gross salary). Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
So is there a middle solution to stay in the company and get the raise?
How would you approach this issue?
PS: It's not about being underpaid, it's about being paid the same as other devs from the other country that are doing the same job
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Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/116992/…
– mustaccio
10 hours ago
30
The entire point of opening an office in your country is so that they can pay you less... I promise you they would not have done it otherwise. If you don't like it (I don't blame you), work on moving to a country with a better economy.
– only_pro
8 hours ago
11
An acquaintance of mine did such a lateral move inside their company, and took a 30% pay cut for the exact same job after relocation. On the other hand, the place they re-located had lower rent, fantastic public services ( particularly free child care ) so in the end they ended up ahead quality of life wise.
– crasic
8 hours ago
4
How does your compensation compare locally?
– cdkMoose
7 hours ago
9
Consider that your Country A colleagues could make the exact same argument you're trying to make if you were indeed paid the same. If Country A has a much higher cost of living, those employees would receive a lower effective wage than you if you were paid the same numerical amount. Depending on taxes, they might even have a lower take-home pay than you!
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
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Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/116992/…
– mustaccio
10 hours ago
30
The entire point of opening an office in your country is so that they can pay you less... I promise you they would not have done it otherwise. If you don't like it (I don't blame you), work on moving to a country with a better economy.
– only_pro
8 hours ago
11
An acquaintance of mine did such a lateral move inside their company, and took a 30% pay cut for the exact same job after relocation. On the other hand, the place they re-located had lower rent, fantastic public services ( particularly free child care ) so in the end they ended up ahead quality of life wise.
– crasic
8 hours ago
4
How does your compensation compare locally?
– cdkMoose
7 hours ago
9
Consider that your Country A colleagues could make the exact same argument you're trying to make if you were indeed paid the same. If Country A has a much higher cost of living, those employees would receive a lower effective wage than you if you were paid the same numerical amount. Depending on taxes, they might even have a lower take-home pay than you!
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
2
2
Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/116992/…
– mustaccio
10 hours ago
Related: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/116992/…
– mustaccio
10 hours ago
30
30
The entire point of opening an office in your country is so that they can pay you less... I promise you they would not have done it otherwise. If you don't like it (I don't blame you), work on moving to a country with a better economy.
– only_pro
8 hours ago
The entire point of opening an office in your country is so that they can pay you less... I promise you they would not have done it otherwise. If you don't like it (I don't blame you), work on moving to a country with a better economy.
– only_pro
8 hours ago
11
11
An acquaintance of mine did such a lateral move inside their company, and took a 30% pay cut for the exact same job after relocation. On the other hand, the place they re-located had lower rent, fantastic public services ( particularly free child care ) so in the end they ended up ahead quality of life wise.
– crasic
8 hours ago
An acquaintance of mine did such a lateral move inside their company, and took a 30% pay cut for the exact same job after relocation. On the other hand, the place they re-located had lower rent, fantastic public services ( particularly free child care ) so in the end they ended up ahead quality of life wise.
– crasic
8 hours ago
4
4
How does your compensation compare locally?
– cdkMoose
7 hours ago
How does your compensation compare locally?
– cdkMoose
7 hours ago
9
9
Consider that your Country A colleagues could make the exact same argument you're trying to make if you were indeed paid the same. If Country A has a much higher cost of living, those employees would receive a lower effective wage than you if you were paid the same numerical amount. Depending on taxes, they might even have a lower take-home pay than you!
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
Consider that your Country A colleagues could make the exact same argument you're trying to make if you were indeed paid the same. If Country A has a much higher cost of living, those employees would receive a lower effective wage than you if you were paid the same numerical amount. Depending on taxes, they might even have a lower take-home pay than you!
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago
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Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
Actually it is good for you - if they hadn't opened the office there (to save themselves money) you wouldn't have a job with them.
Market rates for a given job with a given skill level vary wildly not only by country but often by region within that country, key factors in this include cost of living in the country (or region) and supply/demand for the skillset in question.
You can ask for a raise - but "because you pay X in Country A" isn't going to be a reason that gets you very far. Instead you need to come up with reasons why you deserve a raise as if the workers in country A didn't exist. You need to demonstrate why you bring value to the company that warrants it, cite your performance, cite where you've saved the company money or increased revenue. But don't cite that someone else in a different country earns more than you.
In the (highly unlikely) event that your arguments were convincing - and they came around to the notion that they should pay developers in B the same as those in A then what would be the incentive to have a separate office in B in the first place? Offices have overheads, different countries often have different timezones or language barriers that make collaboration more complex - they could save all that by just bringing it all in house in country A.
answered 13 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
47.4k26127186
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Yes, this answer is incredibly correct. "Because of country A..." is, as this answer says, absolutely NOT any part of your argument.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
For a very large company that's expanded to B in order to increase the size of its talent pool for recruiting paying an above market salary helps improve staff retention. OTOH unless you're applying to a company at near Google scale it's unlikely to pass with management. And even then while my localish (within the US) Google office does pay well above the local market rate; it's still not as high as they do in Mountain View.
– Dan Neely
9 hours ago
8
Exactly. In the UK we've got something I've heard called the "London subsidy" where for the same role you can be earning a good 25% more just due to the cost of trying to live and work in London. A lot of people actually commute long distances into (or stay during the week in) London to take those boosted wages and live a better life outside of London. The price they pay is in commuting times and costs, or being away from loved ones/their home during the working week. Point being there's always a downside that the increase in wage is making up for.
– Philbo
8 hours ago
1
@Fattie He did answer the question. If the question is "How do I get the salary of country A while working in country B", the answer is you don't (or at least, not by demanding it like that). Like moto said, people of a particular skill level are worth a particular amount depending on the country and/or region that they are working in. This amount varies widely based on a number of factors, not least of which is cost of living. The plain and simple truth is if you want to earn country A's wages, then either move to country A or improve enough to make you worth that much in country B.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@motosubatsu , I'm sorry, I think I clicked on the wrong thing! :-O
– Fattie
4 hours ago
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You don't.
There's a variety of reasons why jobs have different salaries in different countries - general cost of living, taxes, cost of benefits, rental costs for the offices and supporting services, etc.
You can't really expect (for example) to live in India and ask for the same salary as someone who works in the USA. It would be nice, but economics just doesn't work that way.
answered 13 hours ago
Snow♦Snow
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@Fattie The average (and that includes the really miserable small places) rent for an apartment in San Francisco is $3400. I just looked up the apartment prices in Malabar hill (which seems to be one of the more expensive parts of Mumbai) which seems to about $1000, where do you get your numbers from? (same for developer income, I can't find much evidence of 7 million INR/year income for developers)
– Voo
6 hours ago
4
@Fattie - no city in India is in the top 20 most expensive cities. NY is #20. List of most expensive cities for expatriate employees
– Mazura
5 hours ago
9
@Fattie I'm sure you can find expensive places to live in Mumbai, including housing for very well paid expats, but there's clearly quality housing that is far cheaper than what's available in SF, and the fact that you've described the places with the most expensive rents in the world as "cheap cities" rather casts doubt on your points.
– Zach Lipton
5 hours ago
9
@Fattie And to address your original comment, no you can't be a programmer in India and expect to get the same salary as a programmer in the US. Based on a 2018 report, US Java programmers make an average yearly salary of $81,000, whereas their Indian counterparts make an average of $6,000 (and looking at just overall non-programming-specific "average salaries", the disparity is even larger). I'm sure you may know Indian people who make much more than that, but anecdotal outliers don't change the statistics.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
4
@Fattie The specific case of US vs India is just an example of the general point this answer is trying to make. You can't live in country A and expect (or even really ask) to be paid the same amount as country B. It just doesn't work that way. Maybe you land the jackpot and meet an employer who stands on principle and pays an Indian worker a US salary, but those are exceptions, not trends.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
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You can ask but it's likely to be both unsuccessful and a bad career move. The reason they employ in your country is for cheaper labour. Paying you the same as a local negates their primary reason.
It is possible if you have a special skillset in some fashion that makes it a good business decision. But since you state the skillsets are equivalent it's more likely they'll just start looking at replacing you. Paying you extra would set a precedent with no offsetting benefits to the company.
answered 10 hours ago
KilisiKilisi
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You're looking at this incorrectly.
It's common (at least in the US) for a company to pay on a different scale depending where the employee is based for the same position. An old employer of mine had four pay scales so a widget maker in Des Moines IA would have a smaller salary for the same job, skills and performance rating then in San Francisco. A transfer in location would get slotted to the salary of the location. Mostly this was due to cost of living in an area. $90k in Des Moines can go a lot farther the the $120k in San Fran.
They also had a different pay scale for India. Developers would rotate to the US for 18 months getting the US pay scale. Rotating back to India would they would go back to the Indian scale.
Your company is (hopefully) paying the market rate for the country the employee is located in.
answered 10 hours ago
JimmyBJimmyB
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You can ask exactly like you would ask for any rise.
You just need to keep in mind that there are many variable to why your salary is lower and why company chosen to start hiring in country B.
It would be nice if I would earn the same money my counterpart in Switzerland or USA make. But the bottom line is - I don't have a job at Country A. If I move to country A, get the job then I can ask for the same money.
answered 13 hours ago
SZCZERZO KŁYSZCZERZO KŁY
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I think your best bet is to ask for a relocation package to country A if you are interested in the salary in country A.
As others have mentioned, it is common for companies to make a cost of living adjustment to the salaries they offer in different countries or even in different areas of the same country (for example, an employee working in Chicago cannot ask for the same salary as their counterparts working in the San Francisco branch).
answered 9 hours ago
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Contrary to some other responses, I've had a stint working at a small but multinational US company that did not factor in its employees' location when calculating their salaries. In fact, living in a country with lover-than-American taxes would potentially earn you more money than it would if you lived in the US. So while relatively rare, "fair" employers are not completely unheard of.
That said, if your company is on the larger scale and already made a purposeful decision to discriminate you based on your location (which seems to be the case), asking for fairness and a higher salary will unlikely have the desired effect.
answered 1 hour ago
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Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
Actually it is good for you - if they hadn't opened the office there (to save themselves money) you wouldn't have a job with them.
Market rates for a given job with a given skill level vary wildly not only by country but often by region within that country, key factors in this include cost of living in the country (or region) and supply/demand for the skillset in question.
You can ask for a raise - but "because you pay X in Country A" isn't going to be a reason that gets you very far. Instead you need to come up with reasons why you deserve a raise as if the workers in country A didn't exist. You need to demonstrate why you bring value to the company that warrants it, cite your performance, cite where you've saved the company money or increased revenue. But don't cite that someone else in a different country earns more than you.
In the (highly unlikely) event that your arguments were convincing - and they came around to the notion that they should pay developers in B the same as those in A then what would be the incentive to have a separate office in B in the first place? Offices have overheads, different countries often have different timezones or language barriers that make collaboration more complex - they could save all that by just bringing it all in house in country A.
answered 13 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
47.4k26127186
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Yes, this answer is incredibly correct. "Because of country A..." is, as this answer says, absolutely NOT any part of your argument.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
For a very large company that's expanded to B in order to increase the size of its talent pool for recruiting paying an above market salary helps improve staff retention. OTOH unless you're applying to a company at near Google scale it's unlikely to pass with management. And even then while my localish (within the US) Google office does pay well above the local market rate; it's still not as high as they do in Mountain View.
– Dan Neely
9 hours ago
8
Exactly. In the UK we've got something I've heard called the "London subsidy" where for the same role you can be earning a good 25% more just due to the cost of trying to live and work in London. A lot of people actually commute long distances into (or stay during the week in) London to take those boosted wages and live a better life outside of London. The price they pay is in commuting times and costs, or being away from loved ones/their home during the working week. Point being there's always a downside that the increase in wage is making up for.
– Philbo
8 hours ago
1
@Fattie He did answer the question. If the question is "How do I get the salary of country A while working in country B", the answer is you don't (or at least, not by demanding it like that). Like moto said, people of a particular skill level are worth a particular amount depending on the country and/or region that they are working in. This amount varies widely based on a number of factors, not least of which is cost of living. The plain and simple truth is if you want to earn country A's wages, then either move to country A or improve enough to make you worth that much in country B.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@motosubatsu , I'm sorry, I think I clicked on the wrong thing! :-O
– Fattie
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
Actually it is good for you - if they hadn't opened the office there (to save themselves money) you wouldn't have a job with them.
Market rates for a given job with a given skill level vary wildly not only by country but often by region within that country, key factors in this include cost of living in the country (or region) and supply/demand for the skillset in question.
You can ask for a raise - but "because you pay X in Country A" isn't going to be a reason that gets you very far. Instead you need to come up with reasons why you deserve a raise as if the workers in country A didn't exist. You need to demonstrate why you bring value to the company that warrants it, cite your performance, cite where you've saved the company money or increased revenue. But don't cite that someone else in a different country earns more than you.
In the (highly unlikely) event that your arguments were convincing - and they came around to the notion that they should pay developers in B the same as those in A then what would be the incentive to have a separate office in B in the first place? Offices have overheads, different countries often have different timezones or language barriers that make collaboration more complex - they could save all that by just bringing it all in house in country A.
answered 13 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
47.4k26127186
2
Yes, this answer is incredibly correct. "Because of country A..." is, as this answer says, absolutely NOT any part of your argument.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
For a very large company that's expanded to B in order to increase the size of its talent pool for recruiting paying an above market salary helps improve staff retention. OTOH unless you're applying to a company at near Google scale it's unlikely to pass with management. And even then while my localish (within the US) Google office does pay well above the local market rate; it's still not as high as they do in Mountain View.
– Dan Neely
9 hours ago
8
Exactly. In the UK we've got something I've heard called the "London subsidy" where for the same role you can be earning a good 25% more just due to the cost of trying to live and work in London. A lot of people actually commute long distances into (or stay during the week in) London to take those boosted wages and live a better life outside of London. The price they pay is in commuting times and costs, or being away from loved ones/their home during the working week. Point being there's always a downside that the increase in wage is making up for.
– Philbo
8 hours ago
1
@Fattie He did answer the question. If the question is "How do I get the salary of country A while working in country B", the answer is you don't (or at least, not by demanding it like that). Like moto said, people of a particular skill level are worth a particular amount depending on the country and/or region that they are working in. This amount varies widely based on a number of factors, not least of which is cost of living. The plain and simple truth is if you want to earn country A's wages, then either move to country A or improve enough to make you worth that much in country B.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@motosubatsu , I'm sorry, I think I clicked on the wrong thing! :-O
– Fattie
4 hours ago
add a comment |
Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
Actually it is good for you - if they hadn't opened the office there (to save themselves money) you wouldn't have a job with them.
Market rates for a given job with a given skill level vary wildly not only by country but often by region within that country, key factors in this include cost of living in the country (or region) and supply/demand for the skillset in question.
You can ask for a raise - but "because you pay X in Country A" isn't going to be a reason that gets you very far. Instead you need to come up with reasons why you deserve a raise as if the workers in country A didn't exist. You need to demonstrate why you bring value to the company that warrants it, cite your performance, cite where you've saved the company money or increased revenue. But don't cite that someone else in a different country earns more than you.
In the (highly unlikely) event that your arguments were convincing - and they came around to the notion that they should pay developers in B the same as those in A then what would be the incentive to have a separate office in B in the first place? Offices have overheads, different countries often have different timezones or language barriers that make collaboration more complex - they could save all that by just bringing it all in house in country A.
answered 13 hours ago
motosubatsumotosubatsu
47.4k26127186
Indeed, they opened the office in country B to save some money and for the business is good, but it's not good for me.
Actually it is good for you - if they hadn't opened the office there (to save themselves money) you wouldn't have a job with them.
Market rates for a given job with a given skill level vary wildly not only by country but often by region within that country, key factors in this include cost of living in the country (or region) and supply/demand for the skillset in question.
You can ask for a raise - but "because you pay X in Country A" isn't going to be a reason that gets you very far. Instead you need to come up with reasons why you deserve a raise as if the workers in country A didn't exist. You need to demonstrate why you bring value to the company that warrants it, cite your performance, cite where you've saved the company money or increased revenue. But don't cite that someone else in a different country earns more than you.
In the (highly unlikely) event that your arguments were convincing - and they came around to the notion that they should pay developers in B the same as those in A then what would be the incentive to have a separate office in B in the first place? Offices have overheads, different countries often have different timezones or language barriers that make collaboration more complex - they could save all that by just bringing it all in house in country A.
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Yes, this answer is incredibly correct. "Because of country A..." is, as this answer says, absolutely NOT any part of your argument.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
For a very large company that's expanded to B in order to increase the size of its talent pool for recruiting paying an above market salary helps improve staff retention. OTOH unless you're applying to a company at near Google scale it's unlikely to pass with management. And even then while my localish (within the US) Google office does pay well above the local market rate; it's still not as high as they do in Mountain View.
– Dan Neely
9 hours ago
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Exactly. In the UK we've got something I've heard called the "London subsidy" where for the same role you can be earning a good 25% more just due to the cost of trying to live and work in London. A lot of people actually commute long distances into (or stay during the week in) London to take those boosted wages and live a better life outside of London. The price they pay is in commuting times and costs, or being away from loved ones/their home during the working week. Point being there's always a downside that the increase in wage is making up for.
– Philbo
8 hours ago
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@Fattie He did answer the question. If the question is "How do I get the salary of country A while working in country B", the answer is you don't (or at least, not by demanding it like that). Like moto said, people of a particular skill level are worth a particular amount depending on the country and/or region that they are working in. This amount varies widely based on a number of factors, not least of which is cost of living. The plain and simple truth is if you want to earn country A's wages, then either move to country A or improve enough to make you worth that much in country B.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@motosubatsu , I'm sorry, I think I clicked on the wrong thing! :-O
– Fattie
4 hours ago
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Yes, this answer is incredibly correct. "Because of country A..." is, as this answer says, absolutely NOT any part of your argument.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
For a very large company that's expanded to B in order to increase the size of its talent pool for recruiting paying an above market salary helps improve staff retention. OTOH unless you're applying to a company at near Google scale it's unlikely to pass with management. And even then while my localish (within the US) Google office does pay well above the local market rate; it's still not as high as they do in Mountain View.
– Dan Neely
9 hours ago
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Exactly. In the UK we've got something I've heard called the "London subsidy" where for the same role you can be earning a good 25% more just due to the cost of trying to live and work in London. A lot of people actually commute long distances into (or stay during the week in) London to take those boosted wages and live a better life outside of London. The price they pay is in commuting times and costs, or being away from loved ones/their home during the working week. Point being there's always a downside that the increase in wage is making up for.
– Philbo
8 hours ago
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@Fattie He did answer the question. If the question is "How do I get the salary of country A while working in country B", the answer is you don't (or at least, not by demanding it like that). Like moto said, people of a particular skill level are worth a particular amount depending on the country and/or region that they are working in. This amount varies widely based on a number of factors, not least of which is cost of living. The plain and simple truth is if you want to earn country A's wages, then either move to country A or improve enough to make you worth that much in country B.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@motosubatsu , I'm sorry, I think I clicked on the wrong thing! :-O
– Fattie
4 hours ago
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Yes, this answer is incredibly correct. "Because of country A..." is, as this answer says, absolutely NOT any part of your argument.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
Yes, this answer is incredibly correct. "Because of country A..." is, as this answer says, absolutely NOT any part of your argument.
– Fattie
12 hours ago
For a very large company that's expanded to B in order to increase the size of its talent pool for recruiting paying an above market salary helps improve staff retention. OTOH unless you're applying to a company at near Google scale it's unlikely to pass with management. And even then while my localish (within the US) Google office does pay well above the local market rate; it's still not as high as they do in Mountain View.
– Dan Neely
9 hours ago
For a very large company that's expanded to B in order to increase the size of its talent pool for recruiting paying an above market salary helps improve staff retention. OTOH unless you're applying to a company at near Google scale it's unlikely to pass with management. And even then while my localish (within the US) Google office does pay well above the local market rate; it's still not as high as they do in Mountain View.
– Dan Neely
9 hours ago
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Exactly. In the UK we've got something I've heard called the "London subsidy" where for the same role you can be earning a good 25% more just due to the cost of trying to live and work in London. A lot of people actually commute long distances into (or stay during the week in) London to take those boosted wages and live a better life outside of London. The price they pay is in commuting times and costs, or being away from loved ones/their home during the working week. Point being there's always a downside that the increase in wage is making up for.
– Philbo
8 hours ago
Exactly. In the UK we've got something I've heard called the "London subsidy" where for the same role you can be earning a good 25% more just due to the cost of trying to live and work in London. A lot of people actually commute long distances into (or stay during the week in) London to take those boosted wages and live a better life outside of London. The price they pay is in commuting times and costs, or being away from loved ones/their home during the working week. Point being there's always a downside that the increase in wage is making up for.
– Philbo
8 hours ago
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@Fattie He did answer the question. If the question is "How do I get the salary of country A while working in country B", the answer is you don't (or at least, not by demanding it like that). Like moto said, people of a particular skill level are worth a particular amount depending on the country and/or region that they are working in. This amount varies widely based on a number of factors, not least of which is cost of living. The plain and simple truth is if you want to earn country A's wages, then either move to country A or improve enough to make you worth that much in country B.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@Fattie He did answer the question. If the question is "How do I get the salary of country A while working in country B", the answer is you don't (or at least, not by demanding it like that). Like moto said, people of a particular skill level are worth a particular amount depending on the country and/or region that they are working in. This amount varies widely based on a number of factors, not least of which is cost of living. The plain and simple truth is if you want to earn country A's wages, then either move to country A or improve enough to make you worth that much in country B.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@motosubatsu , I'm sorry, I think I clicked on the wrong thing! :-O
– Fattie
4 hours ago
@motosubatsu , I'm sorry, I think I clicked on the wrong thing! :-O
– Fattie
4 hours ago
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You don't.
There's a variety of reasons why jobs have different salaries in different countries - general cost of living, taxes, cost of benefits, rental costs for the offices and supporting services, etc.
You can't really expect (for example) to live in India and ask for the same salary as someone who works in the USA. It would be nice, but economics just doesn't work that way.
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@Fattie The average (and that includes the really miserable small places) rent for an apartment in San Francisco is $3400. I just looked up the apartment prices in Malabar hill (which seems to be one of the more expensive parts of Mumbai) which seems to about $1000, where do you get your numbers from? (same for developer income, I can't find much evidence of 7 million INR/year income for developers)
– Voo
6 hours ago
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@Fattie - no city in India is in the top 20 most expensive cities. NY is #20. List of most expensive cities for expatriate employees
– Mazura
5 hours ago
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@Fattie I'm sure you can find expensive places to live in Mumbai, including housing for very well paid expats, but there's clearly quality housing that is far cheaper than what's available in SF, and the fact that you've described the places with the most expensive rents in the world as "cheap cities" rather casts doubt on your points.
– Zach Lipton
5 hours ago
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@Fattie And to address your original comment, no you can't be a programmer in India and expect to get the same salary as a programmer in the US. Based on a 2018 report, US Java programmers make an average yearly salary of $81,000, whereas their Indian counterparts make an average of $6,000 (and looking at just overall non-programming-specific "average salaries", the disparity is even larger). I'm sure you may know Indian people who make much more than that, but anecdotal outliers don't change the statistics.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
4
@Fattie The specific case of US vs India is just an example of the general point this answer is trying to make. You can't live in country A and expect (or even really ask) to be paid the same amount as country B. It just doesn't work that way. Maybe you land the jackpot and meet an employer who stands on principle and pays an Indian worker a US salary, but those are exceptions, not trends.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
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You don't.
There's a variety of reasons why jobs have different salaries in different countries - general cost of living, taxes, cost of benefits, rental costs for the offices and supporting services, etc.
You can't really expect (for example) to live in India and ask for the same salary as someone who works in the USA. It would be nice, but economics just doesn't work that way.
answered 13 hours ago
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@Fattie The average (and that includes the really miserable small places) rent for an apartment in San Francisco is $3400. I just looked up the apartment prices in Malabar hill (which seems to be one of the more expensive parts of Mumbai) which seems to about $1000, where do you get your numbers from? (same for developer income, I can't find much evidence of 7 million INR/year income for developers)
– Voo
6 hours ago
4
@Fattie - no city in India is in the top 20 most expensive cities. NY is #20. List of most expensive cities for expatriate employees
– Mazura
5 hours ago
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@Fattie I'm sure you can find expensive places to live in Mumbai, including housing for very well paid expats, but there's clearly quality housing that is far cheaper than what's available in SF, and the fact that you've described the places with the most expensive rents in the world as "cheap cities" rather casts doubt on your points.
– Zach Lipton
5 hours ago
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@Fattie And to address your original comment, no you can't be a programmer in India and expect to get the same salary as a programmer in the US. Based on a 2018 report, US Java programmers make an average yearly salary of $81,000, whereas their Indian counterparts make an average of $6,000 (and looking at just overall non-programming-specific "average salaries", the disparity is even larger). I'm sure you may know Indian people who make much more than that, but anecdotal outliers don't change the statistics.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
4
@Fattie The specific case of US vs India is just an example of the general point this answer is trying to make. You can't live in country A and expect (or even really ask) to be paid the same amount as country B. It just doesn't work that way. Maybe you land the jackpot and meet an employer who stands on principle and pays an Indian worker a US salary, but those are exceptions, not trends.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
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You don't.
There's a variety of reasons why jobs have different salaries in different countries - general cost of living, taxes, cost of benefits, rental costs for the offices and supporting services, etc.
You can't really expect (for example) to live in India and ask for the same salary as someone who works in the USA. It would be nice, but economics just doesn't work that way.
answered 13 hours ago
Snow♦Snow
60.8k51196244
You don't.
There's a variety of reasons why jobs have different salaries in different countries - general cost of living, taxes, cost of benefits, rental costs for the offices and supporting services, etc.
You can't really expect (for example) to live in India and ask for the same salary as someone who works in the USA. It would be nice, but economics just doesn't work that way.
answered 13 hours ago
Snow♦Snow
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answered 13 hours ago
Snow♦Snow
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answered 13 hours ago
Snow♦Snow
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answered 13 hours ago
Snow♦Snow
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@Fattie The average (and that includes the really miserable small places) rent for an apartment in San Francisco is $3400. I just looked up the apartment prices in Malabar hill (which seems to be one of the more expensive parts of Mumbai) which seems to about $1000, where do you get your numbers from? (same for developer income, I can't find much evidence of 7 million INR/year income for developers)
– Voo
6 hours ago
4
@Fattie - no city in India is in the top 20 most expensive cities. NY is #20. List of most expensive cities for expatriate employees
– Mazura
5 hours ago
9
@Fattie I'm sure you can find expensive places to live in Mumbai, including housing for very well paid expats, but there's clearly quality housing that is far cheaper than what's available in SF, and the fact that you've described the places with the most expensive rents in the world as "cheap cities" rather casts doubt on your points.
– Zach Lipton
5 hours ago
9
@Fattie And to address your original comment, no you can't be a programmer in India and expect to get the same salary as a programmer in the US. Based on a 2018 report, US Java programmers make an average yearly salary of $81,000, whereas their Indian counterparts make an average of $6,000 (and looking at just overall non-programming-specific "average salaries", the disparity is even larger). I'm sure you may know Indian people who make much more than that, but anecdotal outliers don't change the statistics.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
4
@Fattie The specific case of US vs India is just an example of the general point this answer is trying to make. You can't live in country A and expect (or even really ask) to be paid the same amount as country B. It just doesn't work that way. Maybe you land the jackpot and meet an employer who stands on principle and pays an Indian worker a US salary, but those are exceptions, not trends.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
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@Fattie The average (and that includes the really miserable small places) rent for an apartment in San Francisco is $3400. I just looked up the apartment prices in Malabar hill (which seems to be one of the more expensive parts of Mumbai) which seems to about $1000, where do you get your numbers from? (same for developer income, I can't find much evidence of 7 million INR/year income for developers)
– Voo
6 hours ago
4
@Fattie - no city in India is in the top 20 most expensive cities. NY is #20. List of most expensive cities for expatriate employees
– Mazura
5 hours ago
9
@Fattie I'm sure you can find expensive places to live in Mumbai, including housing for very well paid expats, but there's clearly quality housing that is far cheaper than what's available in SF, and the fact that you've described the places with the most expensive rents in the world as "cheap cities" rather casts doubt on your points.
– Zach Lipton
5 hours ago
9
@Fattie And to address your original comment, no you can't be a programmer in India and expect to get the same salary as a programmer in the US. Based on a 2018 report, US Java programmers make an average yearly salary of $81,000, whereas their Indian counterparts make an average of $6,000 (and looking at just overall non-programming-specific "average salaries", the disparity is even larger). I'm sure you may know Indian people who make much more than that, but anecdotal outliers don't change the statistics.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
4
@Fattie The specific case of US vs India is just an example of the general point this answer is trying to make. You can't live in country A and expect (or even really ask) to be paid the same amount as country B. It just doesn't work that way. Maybe you land the jackpot and meet an employer who stands on principle and pays an Indian worker a US salary, but those are exceptions, not trends.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
8
8
@Fattie The average (and that includes the really miserable small places) rent for an apartment in San Francisco is $3400. I just looked up the apartment prices in Malabar hill (which seems to be one of the more expensive parts of Mumbai) which seems to about $1000, where do you get your numbers from? (same for developer income, I can't find much evidence of 7 million INR/year income for developers)
– Voo
6 hours ago
@Fattie The average (and that includes the really miserable small places) rent for an apartment in San Francisco is $3400. I just looked up the apartment prices in Malabar hill (which seems to be one of the more expensive parts of Mumbai) which seems to about $1000, where do you get your numbers from? (same for developer income, I can't find much evidence of 7 million INR/year income for developers)
– Voo
6 hours ago
4
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@Fattie - no city in India is in the top 20 most expensive cities. NY is #20. List of most expensive cities for expatriate employees
– Mazura
5 hours ago
@Fattie - no city in India is in the top 20 most expensive cities. NY is #20. List of most expensive cities for expatriate employees
– Mazura
5 hours ago
9
9
@Fattie I'm sure you can find expensive places to live in Mumbai, including housing for very well paid expats, but there's clearly quality housing that is far cheaper than what's available in SF, and the fact that you've described the places with the most expensive rents in the world as "cheap cities" rather casts doubt on your points.
– Zach Lipton
5 hours ago
@Fattie I'm sure you can find expensive places to live in Mumbai, including housing for very well paid expats, but there's clearly quality housing that is far cheaper than what's available in SF, and the fact that you've described the places with the most expensive rents in the world as "cheap cities" rather casts doubt on your points.
– Zach Lipton
5 hours ago
9
9
@Fattie And to address your original comment, no you can't be a programmer in India and expect to get the same salary as a programmer in the US. Based on a 2018 report, US Java programmers make an average yearly salary of $81,000, whereas their Indian counterparts make an average of $6,000 (and looking at just overall non-programming-specific "average salaries", the disparity is even larger). I'm sure you may know Indian people who make much more than that, but anecdotal outliers don't change the statistics.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@Fattie And to address your original comment, no you can't be a programmer in India and expect to get the same salary as a programmer in the US. Based on a 2018 report, US Java programmers make an average yearly salary of $81,000, whereas their Indian counterparts make an average of $6,000 (and looking at just overall non-programming-specific "average salaries", the disparity is even larger). I'm sure you may know Indian people who make much more than that, but anecdotal outliers don't change the statistics.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
4
4
@Fattie The specific case of US vs India is just an example of the general point this answer is trying to make. You can't live in country A and expect (or even really ask) to be paid the same amount as country B. It just doesn't work that way. Maybe you land the jackpot and meet an employer who stands on principle and pays an Indian worker a US salary, but those are exceptions, not trends.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
@Fattie The specific case of US vs India is just an example of the general point this answer is trying to make. You can't live in country A and expect (or even really ask) to be paid the same amount as country B. It just doesn't work that way. Maybe you land the jackpot and meet an employer who stands on principle and pays an Indian worker a US salary, but those are exceptions, not trends.
– Abion47
4 hours ago
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You can ask but it's likely to be both unsuccessful and a bad career move. The reason they employ in your country is for cheaper labour. Paying you the same as a local negates their primary reason.
It is possible if you have a special skillset in some fashion that makes it a good business decision. But since you state the skillsets are equivalent it's more likely they'll just start looking at replacing you. Paying you extra would set a precedent with no offsetting benefits to the company.
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You can ask but it's likely to be both unsuccessful and a bad career move. The reason they employ in your country is for cheaper labour. Paying you the same as a local negates their primary reason.
It is possible if you have a special skillset in some fashion that makes it a good business decision. But since you state the skillsets are equivalent it's more likely they'll just start looking at replacing you. Paying you extra would set a precedent with no offsetting benefits to the company.
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You can ask but it's likely to be both unsuccessful and a bad career move. The reason they employ in your country is for cheaper labour. Paying you the same as a local negates their primary reason.
It is possible if you have a special skillset in some fashion that makes it a good business decision. But since you state the skillsets are equivalent it's more likely they'll just start looking at replacing you. Paying you extra would set a precedent with no offsetting benefits to the company.
answered 10 hours ago
KilisiKilisi
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You can ask but it's likely to be both unsuccessful and a bad career move. The reason they employ in your country is for cheaper labour. Paying you the same as a local negates their primary reason.
It is possible if you have a special skillset in some fashion that makes it a good business decision. But since you state the skillsets are equivalent it's more likely they'll just start looking at replacing you. Paying you extra would set a precedent with no offsetting benefits to the company.
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You're looking at this incorrectly.
It's common (at least in the US) for a company to pay on a different scale depending where the employee is based for the same position. An old employer of mine had four pay scales so a widget maker in Des Moines IA would have a smaller salary for the same job, skills and performance rating then in San Francisco. A transfer in location would get slotted to the salary of the location. Mostly this was due to cost of living in an area. $90k in Des Moines can go a lot farther the the $120k in San Fran.
They also had a different pay scale for India. Developers would rotate to the US for 18 months getting the US pay scale. Rotating back to India would they would go back to the Indian scale.
Your company is (hopefully) paying the market rate for the country the employee is located in.
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You're looking at this incorrectly.
It's common (at least in the US) for a company to pay on a different scale depending where the employee is based for the same position. An old employer of mine had four pay scales so a widget maker in Des Moines IA would have a smaller salary for the same job, skills and performance rating then in San Francisco. A transfer in location would get slotted to the salary of the location. Mostly this was due to cost of living in an area. $90k in Des Moines can go a lot farther the the $120k in San Fran.
They also had a different pay scale for India. Developers would rotate to the US for 18 months getting the US pay scale. Rotating back to India would they would go back to the Indian scale.
Your company is (hopefully) paying the market rate for the country the employee is located in.
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You're looking at this incorrectly.
It's common (at least in the US) for a company to pay on a different scale depending where the employee is based for the same position. An old employer of mine had four pay scales so a widget maker in Des Moines IA would have a smaller salary for the same job, skills and performance rating then in San Francisco. A transfer in location would get slotted to the salary of the location. Mostly this was due to cost of living in an area. $90k in Des Moines can go a lot farther the the $120k in San Fran.
They also had a different pay scale for India. Developers would rotate to the US for 18 months getting the US pay scale. Rotating back to India would they would go back to the Indian scale.
Your company is (hopefully) paying the market rate for the country the employee is located in.
answered 10 hours ago
JimmyBJimmyB
4,1741622
You're looking at this incorrectly.
It's common (at least in the US) for a company to pay on a different scale depending where the employee is based for the same position. An old employer of mine had four pay scales so a widget maker in Des Moines IA would have a smaller salary for the same job, skills and performance rating then in San Francisco. A transfer in location would get slotted to the salary of the location. Mostly this was due to cost of living in an area. $90k in Des Moines can go a lot farther the the $120k in San Fran.
They also had a different pay scale for India. Developers would rotate to the US for 18 months getting the US pay scale. Rotating back to India would they would go back to the Indian scale.
Your company is (hopefully) paying the market rate for the country the employee is located in.
answered 10 hours ago
JimmyBJimmyB
4,1741622
answered 10 hours ago
JimmyBJimmyB
4,1741622
answered 10 hours ago
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answered 10 hours ago
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You can ask exactly like you would ask for any rise.
You just need to keep in mind that there are many variable to why your salary is lower and why company chosen to start hiring in country B.
It would be nice if I would earn the same money my counterpart in Switzerland or USA make. But the bottom line is - I don't have a job at Country A. If I move to country A, get the job then I can ask for the same money.
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SZCZERZO KŁYSZCZERZO KŁY
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You can ask exactly like you would ask for any rise.
You just need to keep in mind that there are many variable to why your salary is lower and why company chosen to start hiring in country B.
It would be nice if I would earn the same money my counterpart in Switzerland or USA make. But the bottom line is - I don't have a job at Country A. If I move to country A, get the job then I can ask for the same money.
answered 13 hours ago
SZCZERZO KŁYSZCZERZO KŁY
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You can ask exactly like you would ask for any rise.
You just need to keep in mind that there are many variable to why your salary is lower and why company chosen to start hiring in country B.
It would be nice if I would earn the same money my counterpart in Switzerland or USA make. But the bottom line is - I don't have a job at Country A. If I move to country A, get the job then I can ask for the same money.
answered 13 hours ago
SZCZERZO KŁYSZCZERZO KŁY
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You can ask exactly like you would ask for any rise.
You just need to keep in mind that there are many variable to why your salary is lower and why company chosen to start hiring in country B.
It would be nice if I would earn the same money my counterpart in Switzerland or USA make. But the bottom line is - I don't have a job at Country A. If I move to country A, get the job then I can ask for the same money.
answered 13 hours ago
SZCZERZO KŁYSZCZERZO KŁY
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SZCZERZO KŁYSZCZERZO KŁY
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I think your best bet is to ask for a relocation package to country A if you are interested in the salary in country A.
As others have mentioned, it is common for companies to make a cost of living adjustment to the salaries they offer in different countries or even in different areas of the same country (for example, an employee working in Chicago cannot ask for the same salary as their counterparts working in the San Francisco branch).
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I think your best bet is to ask for a relocation package to country A if you are interested in the salary in country A.
As others have mentioned, it is common for companies to make a cost of living adjustment to the salaries they offer in different countries or even in different areas of the same country (for example, an employee working in Chicago cannot ask for the same salary as their counterparts working in the San Francisco branch).
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I think your best bet is to ask for a relocation package to country A if you are interested in the salary in country A.
As others have mentioned, it is common for companies to make a cost of living adjustment to the salaries they offer in different countries or even in different areas of the same country (for example, an employee working in Chicago cannot ask for the same salary as their counterparts working in the San Francisco branch).
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I think your best bet is to ask for a relocation package to country A if you are interested in the salary in country A.
As others have mentioned, it is common for companies to make a cost of living adjustment to the salaries they offer in different countries or even in different areas of the same country (for example, an employee working in Chicago cannot ask for the same salary as their counterparts working in the San Francisco branch).
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Contrary to some other responses, I've had a stint working at a small but multinational US company that did not factor in its employees' location when calculating their salaries. In fact, living in a country with lover-than-American taxes would potentially earn you more money than it would if you lived in the US. So while relatively rare, "fair" employers are not completely unheard of.
That said, if your company is on the larger scale and already made a purposeful decision to discriminate you based on your location (which seems to be the case), asking for fairness and a higher salary will unlikely have the desired effect.
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Contrary to some other responses, I've had a stint working at a small but multinational US company that did not factor in its employees' location when calculating their salaries. In fact, living in a country with lover-than-American taxes would potentially earn you more money than it would if you lived in the US. So while relatively rare, "fair" employers are not completely unheard of.
That said, if your company is on the larger scale and already made a purposeful decision to discriminate you based on your location (which seems to be the case), asking for fairness and a higher salary will unlikely have the desired effect.
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Contrary to some other responses, I've had a stint working at a small but multinational US company that did not factor in its employees' location when calculating their salaries. In fact, living in a country with lover-than-American taxes would potentially earn you more money than it would if you lived in the US. So while relatively rare, "fair" employers are not completely unheard of.
That said, if your company is on the larger scale and already made a purposeful decision to discriminate you based on your location (which seems to be the case), asking for fairness and a higher salary will unlikely have the desired effect.
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Contrary to some other responses, I've had a stint working at a small but multinational US company that did not factor in its employees' location when calculating their salaries. In fact, living in a country with lover-than-American taxes would potentially earn you more money than it would if you lived in the US. So while relatively rare, "fair" employers are not completely unheard of.
That said, if your company is on the larger scale and already made a purposeful decision to discriminate you based on your location (which seems to be the case), asking for fairness and a higher salary will unlikely have the desired effect.
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– mustaccio
10 hours ago
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The entire point of opening an office in your country is so that they can pay you less... I promise you they would not have done it otherwise. If you don't like it (I don't blame you), work on moving to a country with a better economy.
– only_pro
8 hours ago
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An acquaintance of mine did such a lateral move inside their company, and took a 30% pay cut for the exact same job after relocation. On the other hand, the place they re-located had lower rent, fantastic public services ( particularly free child care ) so in the end they ended up ahead quality of life wise.
– crasic
8 hours ago
4
How does your compensation compare locally?
– cdkMoose
7 hours ago
9
Consider that your Country A colleagues could make the exact same argument you're trying to make if you were indeed paid the same. If Country A has a much higher cost of living, those employees would receive a lower effective wage than you if you were paid the same numerical amount. Depending on taxes, they might even have a lower take-home pay than you!
– Nuclear Wang
7 hours ago