Can I patch a tire (not a tube) that has a hole?












3















I've got a relatively new bike tire (hard case Bontrager) that got punctured by a nail. So now the tube bulges out of the tire and is of great risk of bursting (though I biked several miles before realizing this).



I'm wondering if it is possible to patch the tire? If so, how would you do this?



I'm guessing you'd want a non-stretchable patch.










share|improve this question







New contributor




Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





















  • You can sew it with dental floss.

    – Klaster_1
    14 hours ago











  • Do you run tubeless or tubed ?

    – Criggie
    11 hours ago
















3















I've got a relatively new bike tire (hard case Bontrager) that got punctured by a nail. So now the tube bulges out of the tire and is of great risk of bursting (though I biked several miles before realizing this).



I'm wondering if it is possible to patch the tire? If so, how would you do this?



I'm guessing you'd want a non-stretchable patch.










share|improve this question







New contributor




Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





















  • You can sew it with dental floss.

    – Klaster_1
    14 hours ago











  • Do you run tubeless or tubed ?

    – Criggie
    11 hours ago














3












3








3








I've got a relatively new bike tire (hard case Bontrager) that got punctured by a nail. So now the tube bulges out of the tire and is of great risk of bursting (though I biked several miles before realizing this).



I'm wondering if it is possible to patch the tire? If so, how would you do this?



I'm guessing you'd want a non-stretchable patch.










share|improve this question







New contributor




Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.












I've got a relatively new bike tire (hard case Bontrager) that got punctured by a nail. So now the tube bulges out of the tire and is of great risk of bursting (though I biked several miles before realizing this).



I'm wondering if it is possible to patch the tire? If so, how would you do this?



I'm guessing you'd want a non-stretchable patch.







tire






share|improve this question







New contributor




Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|improve this question







New contributor




Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|improve this question




share|improve this question






New contributor




Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked 14 hours ago









Aaron KreiderAaron Kreider

1162




1162




New contributor




Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






Aaron Kreider is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.













  • You can sew it with dental floss.

    – Klaster_1
    14 hours ago











  • Do you run tubeless or tubed ?

    – Criggie
    11 hours ago



















  • You can sew it with dental floss.

    – Klaster_1
    14 hours ago











  • Do you run tubeless or tubed ?

    – Criggie
    11 hours ago

















You can sew it with dental floss.

– Klaster_1
14 hours ago





You can sew it with dental floss.

– Klaster_1
14 hours ago













Do you run tubeless or tubed ?

– Criggie
11 hours ago





Do you run tubeless or tubed ?

– Criggie
11 hours ago










3 Answers
3






active

oldest

votes


















4














To get you home, you can use a tyre boot. This is essentially a non stretchy patch that sticks on the inside of the tyre. They're not recommended for long term use but people do run them long term (for example relegating them to a commuting bike/wheelset). If you do use them long term it's a good idea to check then occasionally. This assumes tubed tyres.



Boots also don't work next to the bead as there isn't enough material for them to stick to and resist the considerable load.



I've improvised a boot from a glueless patch (and run the tyre soft). Crisp (chips) packets, gel wrappers and strong banknotes are also used. Something sticky to hold it in place while you reassemble and inflate is a good idea.






share|improve this answer





















  • 1





    A once-popular option was to take a US dollar bill (quite robust material) and fold it a couple of times, then slip it between tire and tube. A properly installed boot of decent material should be good for hundreds if not thousands of miles, the main problem being that it's apt to get displaced on a subsequent repairs.

    – Daniel R Hicks
    5 hours ago











  • @DanielRHicks I do have a few US notes, and our new polymer notes are tough as anything. I lead with calling a boot a get-you-home repair mainly because the manufacturers say that on the grounds of safety; my own personal experience is insufficient.

    – Chris H
    3 hours ago











  • A gel wrapper works nicely and because of the content it is sticky. So you don't need some tape or else to keep it in place when inflating the tyre. Speaking from experience!

    – Carel
    1 hour ago



















2















now the tube bulges out of the tire




It's likely time to get another new tire - this one is probably dead.



The tube bulging out of the tire means that the structural integrity of your tire is compromised - one of the functions a tire must do for you to ride safely is hold the tube securely. This tire no longer does that.



And a patch really can't fix it. The fibers embedded in the rubber compound are likely cut. It's those fibers that give the tire the strength it needs to hold the tube in place against the pressure of the air inside the tube, and no patch can uncut those fibers. A glued-on patch can fail, as the glue is not really designed to take the shearing forces that are pulling the tire apart at the cut. The tire's fibers are designed to withstand those forces, but they're cut.



If you do the math, the total forces put on the rim and tire by the air inside the tube are pretty substantial. For example, a 1.5" 29er tire has an area over 410 square inches (area of a torus). If that tire is inflated to mere 50 psi, that's a total of over 20,000 lb of force spread out over the area of the tire trying to pull it apart and push it off the rim.



A tire boot (as mentioned in what's currently the other answer) is, IMO, a temporary fix for a cut tire. It gets you home.



Tires are wear items - they wear out, sometimes faster than you'd like.






share|improve this answer































    0














    I did use a tube patch on a sidewall hole in the tire (I too had a nail) - and the tire bulging has decreased somewhat. It's not a long term solution though.

    If the hole is not on the sidewall but on the tread, you might possibly solve it with an auto tire patch (the kind used for holes in the tread).

    Keep in mind that auto tire patch (the one in the thread) is NOT TO BE USED for sidewall holes (once a car tire has a sidewall hole, you must buy a new one).






    share|improve this answer























      Your Answer








      StackExchange.ready(function() {
      var channelOptions = {
      tags: "".split(" "),
      id: "126"
      };
      initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

      StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
      // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
      if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
      StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
      createEditor();
      });
      }
      else {
      createEditor();
      }
      });

      function createEditor() {
      StackExchange.prepareEditor({
      heartbeatType: 'answer',
      autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
      convertImagesToLinks: false,
      noModals: true,
      showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
      reputationToPostImages: null,
      bindNavPrevention: true,
      postfix: "",
      imageUploader: {
      brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
      contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
      allowUrls: true
      },
      noCode: true, onDemand: true,
      discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
      ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
      });


      }
      });






      Aaron Kreider is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










      draft saved

      draft discarded


















      StackExchange.ready(
      function () {
      StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fbicycles.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f59792%2fcan-i-patch-a-tire-not-a-tube-that-has-a-hole%23new-answer', 'question_page');
      }
      );

      Post as a guest















      Required, but never shown

























      3 Answers
      3






      active

      oldest

      votes








      3 Answers
      3






      active

      oldest

      votes









      active

      oldest

      votes






      active

      oldest

      votes









      4














      To get you home, you can use a tyre boot. This is essentially a non stretchy patch that sticks on the inside of the tyre. They're not recommended for long term use but people do run them long term (for example relegating them to a commuting bike/wheelset). If you do use them long term it's a good idea to check then occasionally. This assumes tubed tyres.



      Boots also don't work next to the bead as there isn't enough material for them to stick to and resist the considerable load.



      I've improvised a boot from a glueless patch (and run the tyre soft). Crisp (chips) packets, gel wrappers and strong banknotes are also used. Something sticky to hold it in place while you reassemble and inflate is a good idea.






      share|improve this answer





















      • 1





        A once-popular option was to take a US dollar bill (quite robust material) and fold it a couple of times, then slip it between tire and tube. A properly installed boot of decent material should be good for hundreds if not thousands of miles, the main problem being that it's apt to get displaced on a subsequent repairs.

        – Daniel R Hicks
        5 hours ago











      • @DanielRHicks I do have a few US notes, and our new polymer notes are tough as anything. I lead with calling a boot a get-you-home repair mainly because the manufacturers say that on the grounds of safety; my own personal experience is insufficient.

        – Chris H
        3 hours ago











      • A gel wrapper works nicely and because of the content it is sticky. So you don't need some tape or else to keep it in place when inflating the tyre. Speaking from experience!

        – Carel
        1 hour ago
















      4














      To get you home, you can use a tyre boot. This is essentially a non stretchy patch that sticks on the inside of the tyre. They're not recommended for long term use but people do run them long term (for example relegating them to a commuting bike/wheelset). If you do use them long term it's a good idea to check then occasionally. This assumes tubed tyres.



      Boots also don't work next to the bead as there isn't enough material for them to stick to and resist the considerable load.



      I've improvised a boot from a glueless patch (and run the tyre soft). Crisp (chips) packets, gel wrappers and strong banknotes are also used. Something sticky to hold it in place while you reassemble and inflate is a good idea.






      share|improve this answer





















      • 1





        A once-popular option was to take a US dollar bill (quite robust material) and fold it a couple of times, then slip it between tire and tube. A properly installed boot of decent material should be good for hundreds if not thousands of miles, the main problem being that it's apt to get displaced on a subsequent repairs.

        – Daniel R Hicks
        5 hours ago











      • @DanielRHicks I do have a few US notes, and our new polymer notes are tough as anything. I lead with calling a boot a get-you-home repair mainly because the manufacturers say that on the grounds of safety; my own personal experience is insufficient.

        – Chris H
        3 hours ago











      • A gel wrapper works nicely and because of the content it is sticky. So you don't need some tape or else to keep it in place when inflating the tyre. Speaking from experience!

        – Carel
        1 hour ago














      4












      4








      4







      To get you home, you can use a tyre boot. This is essentially a non stretchy patch that sticks on the inside of the tyre. They're not recommended for long term use but people do run them long term (for example relegating them to a commuting bike/wheelset). If you do use them long term it's a good idea to check then occasionally. This assumes tubed tyres.



      Boots also don't work next to the bead as there isn't enough material for them to stick to and resist the considerable load.



      I've improvised a boot from a glueless patch (and run the tyre soft). Crisp (chips) packets, gel wrappers and strong banknotes are also used. Something sticky to hold it in place while you reassemble and inflate is a good idea.






      share|improve this answer















      To get you home, you can use a tyre boot. This is essentially a non stretchy patch that sticks on the inside of the tyre. They're not recommended for long term use but people do run them long term (for example relegating them to a commuting bike/wheelset). If you do use them long term it's a good idea to check then occasionally. This assumes tubed tyres.



      Boots also don't work next to the bead as there isn't enough material for them to stick to and resist the considerable load.



      I've improvised a boot from a glueless patch (and run the tyre soft). Crisp (chips) packets, gel wrappers and strong banknotes are also used. Something sticky to hold it in place while you reassemble and inflate is a good idea.







      share|improve this answer














      share|improve this answer



      share|improve this answer








      edited 5 hours ago









      Argenti Apparatus

      36k23891




      36k23891










      answered 10 hours ago









      Chris HChris H

      23.8k138105




      23.8k138105








      • 1





        A once-popular option was to take a US dollar bill (quite robust material) and fold it a couple of times, then slip it between tire and tube. A properly installed boot of decent material should be good for hundreds if not thousands of miles, the main problem being that it's apt to get displaced on a subsequent repairs.

        – Daniel R Hicks
        5 hours ago











      • @DanielRHicks I do have a few US notes, and our new polymer notes are tough as anything. I lead with calling a boot a get-you-home repair mainly because the manufacturers say that on the grounds of safety; my own personal experience is insufficient.

        – Chris H
        3 hours ago











      • A gel wrapper works nicely and because of the content it is sticky. So you don't need some tape or else to keep it in place when inflating the tyre. Speaking from experience!

        – Carel
        1 hour ago














      • 1





        A once-popular option was to take a US dollar bill (quite robust material) and fold it a couple of times, then slip it between tire and tube. A properly installed boot of decent material should be good for hundreds if not thousands of miles, the main problem being that it's apt to get displaced on a subsequent repairs.

        – Daniel R Hicks
        5 hours ago











      • @DanielRHicks I do have a few US notes, and our new polymer notes are tough as anything. I lead with calling a boot a get-you-home repair mainly because the manufacturers say that on the grounds of safety; my own personal experience is insufficient.

        – Chris H
        3 hours ago











      • A gel wrapper works nicely and because of the content it is sticky. So you don't need some tape or else to keep it in place when inflating the tyre. Speaking from experience!

        – Carel
        1 hour ago








      1




      1





      A once-popular option was to take a US dollar bill (quite robust material) and fold it a couple of times, then slip it between tire and tube. A properly installed boot of decent material should be good for hundreds if not thousands of miles, the main problem being that it's apt to get displaced on a subsequent repairs.

      – Daniel R Hicks
      5 hours ago





      A once-popular option was to take a US dollar bill (quite robust material) and fold it a couple of times, then slip it between tire and tube. A properly installed boot of decent material should be good for hundreds if not thousands of miles, the main problem being that it's apt to get displaced on a subsequent repairs.

      – Daniel R Hicks
      5 hours ago













      @DanielRHicks I do have a few US notes, and our new polymer notes are tough as anything. I lead with calling a boot a get-you-home repair mainly because the manufacturers say that on the grounds of safety; my own personal experience is insufficient.

      – Chris H
      3 hours ago





      @DanielRHicks I do have a few US notes, and our new polymer notes are tough as anything. I lead with calling a boot a get-you-home repair mainly because the manufacturers say that on the grounds of safety; my own personal experience is insufficient.

      – Chris H
      3 hours ago













      A gel wrapper works nicely and because of the content it is sticky. So you don't need some tape or else to keep it in place when inflating the tyre. Speaking from experience!

      – Carel
      1 hour ago





      A gel wrapper works nicely and because of the content it is sticky. So you don't need some tape or else to keep it in place when inflating the tyre. Speaking from experience!

      – Carel
      1 hour ago











      2















      now the tube bulges out of the tire




      It's likely time to get another new tire - this one is probably dead.



      The tube bulging out of the tire means that the structural integrity of your tire is compromised - one of the functions a tire must do for you to ride safely is hold the tube securely. This tire no longer does that.



      And a patch really can't fix it. The fibers embedded in the rubber compound are likely cut. It's those fibers that give the tire the strength it needs to hold the tube in place against the pressure of the air inside the tube, and no patch can uncut those fibers. A glued-on patch can fail, as the glue is not really designed to take the shearing forces that are pulling the tire apart at the cut. The tire's fibers are designed to withstand those forces, but they're cut.



      If you do the math, the total forces put on the rim and tire by the air inside the tube are pretty substantial. For example, a 1.5" 29er tire has an area over 410 square inches (area of a torus). If that tire is inflated to mere 50 psi, that's a total of over 20,000 lb of force spread out over the area of the tire trying to pull it apart and push it off the rim.



      A tire boot (as mentioned in what's currently the other answer) is, IMO, a temporary fix for a cut tire. It gets you home.



      Tires are wear items - they wear out, sometimes faster than you'd like.






      share|improve this answer




























        2















        now the tube bulges out of the tire




        It's likely time to get another new tire - this one is probably dead.



        The tube bulging out of the tire means that the structural integrity of your tire is compromised - one of the functions a tire must do for you to ride safely is hold the tube securely. This tire no longer does that.



        And a patch really can't fix it. The fibers embedded in the rubber compound are likely cut. It's those fibers that give the tire the strength it needs to hold the tube in place against the pressure of the air inside the tube, and no patch can uncut those fibers. A glued-on patch can fail, as the glue is not really designed to take the shearing forces that are pulling the tire apart at the cut. The tire's fibers are designed to withstand those forces, but they're cut.



        If you do the math, the total forces put on the rim and tire by the air inside the tube are pretty substantial. For example, a 1.5" 29er tire has an area over 410 square inches (area of a torus). If that tire is inflated to mere 50 psi, that's a total of over 20,000 lb of force spread out over the area of the tire trying to pull it apart and push it off the rim.



        A tire boot (as mentioned in what's currently the other answer) is, IMO, a temporary fix for a cut tire. It gets you home.



        Tires are wear items - they wear out, sometimes faster than you'd like.






        share|improve this answer


























          2












          2








          2








          now the tube bulges out of the tire




          It's likely time to get another new tire - this one is probably dead.



          The tube bulging out of the tire means that the structural integrity of your tire is compromised - one of the functions a tire must do for you to ride safely is hold the tube securely. This tire no longer does that.



          And a patch really can't fix it. The fibers embedded in the rubber compound are likely cut. It's those fibers that give the tire the strength it needs to hold the tube in place against the pressure of the air inside the tube, and no patch can uncut those fibers. A glued-on patch can fail, as the glue is not really designed to take the shearing forces that are pulling the tire apart at the cut. The tire's fibers are designed to withstand those forces, but they're cut.



          If you do the math, the total forces put on the rim and tire by the air inside the tube are pretty substantial. For example, a 1.5" 29er tire has an area over 410 square inches (area of a torus). If that tire is inflated to mere 50 psi, that's a total of over 20,000 lb of force spread out over the area of the tire trying to pull it apart and push it off the rim.



          A tire boot (as mentioned in what's currently the other answer) is, IMO, a temporary fix for a cut tire. It gets you home.



          Tires are wear items - they wear out, sometimes faster than you'd like.






          share|improve this answer














          now the tube bulges out of the tire




          It's likely time to get another new tire - this one is probably dead.



          The tube bulging out of the tire means that the structural integrity of your tire is compromised - one of the functions a tire must do for you to ride safely is hold the tube securely. This tire no longer does that.



          And a patch really can't fix it. The fibers embedded in the rubber compound are likely cut. It's those fibers that give the tire the strength it needs to hold the tube in place against the pressure of the air inside the tube, and no patch can uncut those fibers. A glued-on patch can fail, as the glue is not really designed to take the shearing forces that are pulling the tire apart at the cut. The tire's fibers are designed to withstand those forces, but they're cut.



          If you do the math, the total forces put on the rim and tire by the air inside the tube are pretty substantial. For example, a 1.5" 29er tire has an area over 410 square inches (area of a torus). If that tire is inflated to mere 50 psi, that's a total of over 20,000 lb of force spread out over the area of the tire trying to pull it apart and push it off the rim.



          A tire boot (as mentioned in what's currently the other answer) is, IMO, a temporary fix for a cut tire. It gets you home.



          Tires are wear items - they wear out, sometimes faster than you'd like.







          share|improve this answer












          share|improve this answer



          share|improve this answer










          answered 7 hours ago









          Andrew HenleAndrew Henle

          2,248813




          2,248813























              0














              I did use a tube patch on a sidewall hole in the tire (I too had a nail) - and the tire bulging has decreased somewhat. It's not a long term solution though.

              If the hole is not on the sidewall but on the tread, you might possibly solve it with an auto tire patch (the kind used for holes in the tread).

              Keep in mind that auto tire patch (the one in the thread) is NOT TO BE USED for sidewall holes (once a car tire has a sidewall hole, you must buy a new one).






              share|improve this answer




























                0














                I did use a tube patch on a sidewall hole in the tire (I too had a nail) - and the tire bulging has decreased somewhat. It's not a long term solution though.

                If the hole is not on the sidewall but on the tread, you might possibly solve it with an auto tire patch (the kind used for holes in the tread).

                Keep in mind that auto tire patch (the one in the thread) is NOT TO BE USED for sidewall holes (once a car tire has a sidewall hole, you must buy a new one).






                share|improve this answer


























                  0












                  0








                  0







                  I did use a tube patch on a sidewall hole in the tire (I too had a nail) - and the tire bulging has decreased somewhat. It's not a long term solution though.

                  If the hole is not on the sidewall but on the tread, you might possibly solve it with an auto tire patch (the kind used for holes in the tread).

                  Keep in mind that auto tire patch (the one in the thread) is NOT TO BE USED for sidewall holes (once a car tire has a sidewall hole, you must buy a new one).






                  share|improve this answer













                  I did use a tube patch on a sidewall hole in the tire (I too had a nail) - and the tire bulging has decreased somewhat. It's not a long term solution though.

                  If the hole is not on the sidewall but on the tread, you might possibly solve it with an auto tire patch (the kind used for holes in the tread).

                  Keep in mind that auto tire patch (the one in the thread) is NOT TO BE USED for sidewall holes (once a car tire has a sidewall hole, you must buy a new one).







                  share|improve this answer












                  share|improve this answer



                  share|improve this answer










                  answered 5 hours ago









                  Calin CeterasCalin Ceteras

                  1574




                  1574






















                      Aaron Kreider is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










                      draft saved

                      draft discarded


















                      Aaron Kreider is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













                      Aaron Kreider is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












                      Aaron Kreider is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















                      Thanks for contributing an answer to Bicycles Stack Exchange!


                      • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

                      But avoid



                      • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

                      • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


                      To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




                      draft saved


                      draft discarded














                      StackExchange.ready(
                      function () {
                      StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fbicycles.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f59792%2fcan-i-patch-a-tire-not-a-tube-that-has-a-hole%23new-answer', 'question_page');
                      }
                      );

                      Post as a guest















                      Required, but never shown





















































                      Required, but never shown














                      Required, but never shown












                      Required, but never shown







                      Required, but never shown

































                      Required, but never shown














                      Required, but never shown












                      Required, but never shown







                      Required, but never shown







                      Popular posts from this blog

                      Callistus I

                      Tabula Rosettana

                      How to label and detect the document text images