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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.






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    If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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    I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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    Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
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    You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.






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  • $begingroup$
    If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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    – David Roberts
    14 hours ago






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    I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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    – Carlo Beenakker
    14 hours ago






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    Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
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    – epsilon
    13 hours ago






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    You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.






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Are there any numbers on publication rates for different areas of mathematics? For example, I would expect that the average in graph theory is higher than the average in analysis.






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    If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    14 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
    $endgroup$
    – Carlo Beenakker
    14 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
    $endgroup$
    – epsilon
    13 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
    $endgroup$
    – YCor
    12 hours ago




















  • $begingroup$
    If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    14 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
    $endgroup$
    – Carlo Beenakker
    14 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
    $endgroup$
    – epsilon
    13 hours ago






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    You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
    $endgroup$
    – YCor
    12 hours ago


















$begingroup$
If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
14 hours ago




$begingroup$
If one could interrogate MathSciNet electronically then one could look at primary MSC numbers on papers, but I don't think you can do this. Also, one might wish to filter the results to "core" mathematics journals, whatever this means, but there have been concerns the top journals are biased towards certain topics, so YMMV.
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– David Roberts
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
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I think you will find this answered here: mathoverflow.net/a/233994/11260
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– Carlo Beenakker
14 hours ago




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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
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– epsilon
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Carlo, that's a start. I would like to see information about average rates. For example, is it more common for a graph theorist than an analyst to publish more than ten or more papers in 5 years? what about 15 or more papers?
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– epsilon
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You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
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– YCor
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You equally count a 100-page paper single-authored and a 3-page paper with 5 authors?
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I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output of a full professor (I fascia) is 10 papers in 10 years, while in mathematical logic it is 5 papers in 10 years.



These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.



This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.






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    Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
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    Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
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    – epsilon
    12 hours ago






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    They are crazy, indeed!
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    – Alexandre Eremenko
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    @DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
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    @JW Ooh thanks I misread that, it makes sense this way indeed. Anyway, I have deleted that comment and made an edit to the answer in the hope to make this clearer.
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I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output of a full professor (I fascia) is 10 papers in 10 years, while in mathematical logic it is 5 papers in 10 years.



These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.



This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.






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    Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
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    – David Roberts
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    Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
    $endgroup$
    – epsilon
    12 hours ago






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    They are crazy, indeed!
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    – Alexandre Eremenko
    11 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    @DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
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    @JW Ooh thanks I misread that, it makes sense this way indeed. Anyway, I have deleted that comment and made an edit to the answer in the hope to make this clearer.
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    – Federico Poloni
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$begingroup$

I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output of a full professor (I fascia) is 10 papers in 10 years, while in mathematical logic it is 5 papers in 10 years.



These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.



This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$









  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    12 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
    $endgroup$
    – epsilon
    12 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    They are crazy, indeed!
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    11 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    @DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
    $endgroup$
    – Federico Poloni
    10 hours ago








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JW Ooh thanks I misread that, it makes sense this way indeed. Anyway, I have deleted that comment and made an edit to the answer in the hope to make this clearer.
    $endgroup$
    – Federico Poloni
    5 hours ago
















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I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output of a full professor (I fascia) is 10 papers in 10 years, while in mathematical logic it is 5 papers in 10 years.



These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.



This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



I'm hesitating to give this answer, but Italy has researched the question "on average how many papers per year does a professor in a given field publish", and they have made this into a selection criterion for promotions. It's a crazy system, but here is their table, for what it's worth. It will tell you that in mathematical analysis or statistics the average output of a full professor (I fascia) is 10 papers in 10 years, while in mathematical logic it is 5 papers in 10 years.



These are among the lowest rates in the table, if you are in the medical profession the average output can be above 10 publications per year. In my own field, condensed matter physics, I might qualify as an Italian professor with less than 3 papers per year.



This "bean counting" procedure was made into a national law, if you can read Italian it will bring tears to your eyes.







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    Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    12 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
    $endgroup$
    – epsilon
    12 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    They are crazy, indeed!
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    11 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    @DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
    $endgroup$
    – Federico Poloni
    10 hours ago








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JW Ooh thanks I misread that, it makes sense this way indeed. Anyway, I have deleted that comment and made an edit to the answer in the hope to make this clearer.
    $endgroup$
    – Federico Poloni
    5 hours ago
















  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
    $endgroup$
    – David Roberts
    12 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
    $endgroup$
    – epsilon
    12 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    They are crazy, indeed!
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Eremenko
    11 hours ago






  • 4




    $begingroup$
    @DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
    $endgroup$
    – Federico Poloni
    10 hours ago








  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JW Ooh thanks I misread that, it makes sense this way indeed. Anyway, I have deleted that comment and made an edit to the answer in the hope to make this clearer.
    $endgroup$
    – Federico Poloni
    5 hours ago










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Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
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– David Roberts
12 hours ago




$begingroup$
Average is the mean or median? I would guess the mean, given the statistical ignorance this exercise shows.
$endgroup$
– David Roberts
12 hours ago












$begingroup$
Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
$endgroup$
– epsilon
12 hours ago




$begingroup$
Carlo, It brought both tears and laughter! Still, I would like to see similar information for schools in the US.
$endgroup$
– epsilon
12 hours ago




1




1




$begingroup$
They are crazy, indeed!
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
11 hours ago




$begingroup$
They are crazy, indeed!
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Eremenko
11 hours ago




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4




$begingroup$
@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
$endgroup$
– Federico Poloni
10 hours ago






$begingroup$
@DavidRoberts These used to be called 'medians' (along the population of all associate/full professors) in a previous version of the procedure, and that's how they were computed (possibly wrongly, since it's difficult to gather data on the whole population). In the current version they are simply defined as 'threshold values' that one needs to achieve for habilitation to that category. I guess part of the reason for this change is that you can sue them for computing a median incorrectly, but you cannot sue them for defining an arbitrary threshold value incorrectly...
$endgroup$
– Federico Poloni
10 hours ago






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$begingroup$
@JW Ooh thanks I misread that, it makes sense this way indeed. Anyway, I have deleted that comment and made an edit to the answer in the hope to make this clearer.
$endgroup$
– Federico Poloni
5 hours ago






$begingroup$
@JW Ooh thanks I misread that, it makes sense this way indeed. Anyway, I have deleted that comment and made an edit to the answer in the hope to make this clearer.
$endgroup$
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