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I am wondering how are to be understood the following notes and how to play them on the violin.




  1. There is no indication of tremolo on the score. Nevertheless, should I understand this as tremolo on the quarter and half note ? How about the 16th notes which are marked each separately with an additional bar ?


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  1. Below you see above a similar construction the number 3 above each of the quarter notes. Is it indicating the finger ? I know that sometimes the number 3 indicates a triplet but I dont think it is about a triplet here.


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    I am wondering how are to be understood the following notes and how to play them on the violin.




    1. There is no indication of tremolo on the score. Nevertheless, should I understand this as tremolo on the quarter and half note ? How about the 16th notes which are marked each separately with an additional bar ?


    enter image description here




    1. Below you see above a similar construction the number 3 above each of the quarter notes. Is it indicating the finger ? I know that sometimes the number 3 indicates a triplet but I dont think it is about a triplet here.


    enter image description here






    notation violin tremolo







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      I am wondering how are to be understood the following notes and how to play them on the violin.




      1. There is no indication of tremolo on the score. Nevertheless, should I understand this as tremolo on the quarter and half note ? How about the 16th notes which are marked each separately with an additional bar ?


      enter image description here




      1. Below you see above a similar construction the number 3 above each of the quarter notes. Is it indicating the finger ? I know that sometimes the number 3 indicates a triplet but I dont think it is about a triplet here.


      enter image description here






      notation violin tremolo







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      I am wondering how are to be understood the following notes and how to play them on the violin.




      1. There is no indication of tremolo on the score. Nevertheless, should I understand this as tremolo on the quarter and half note ? How about the 16th notes which are marked each separately with an additional bar ?


      enter image description here




      1. Below you see above a similar construction the number 3 above each of the quarter notes. Is it indicating the finger ? I know that sometimes the number 3 indicates a triplet but I dont think it is about a triplet here.


      enter image description here






      notation violin tremolo




      notation violin tremolo






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          These are tremolos.



          The first extract is executed entirely in 32nd notes.



          The second extract is executed entirely in eighth-note triplets.






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          • Thanks. In the second ectract, why would be important to indicate it is about triplets, in other words will the tremolo sound different if one would omit the number 3 ?

            – ivo
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            With the triplets, this measure will contain twelve notes, each written note being played three times. Without the triplet, the measure will contain eight notes, each written note being played twice. If the triplet marking were absent, the quarter notes would not be dotted. This bar is in common time, 4/4. If it were in 12/8, the triplet marking would be unnecessary.

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          • You are saying that without the triplet each not is played twice. As far as I know, when playing a tremolo you play a note as many times as it is possible within the duration of the note. Please correct me If am wrong.

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






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            @ivo - when tremolo is marked, the number if bars near to the noteheads is usually indicative of how fast the tremolo is expected to be played.

            – Tim
            12 hours ago











          • Thanks. How fast one should play the first note on the first picture above, or better, how many times should one play it ?

            – ivo
            10 hours ago



















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          Whether it is tremolo or not depends on the tempo. I mean how fast is the quarter notes? If the tempo is slow then you can play the 32nd notes exactly as 32nd notes. If the tempo is fast then it is tremolo.



          A usual way to notate tremolo is to make the note values so fast in the relation to the tempo that it is obvious the composer wants tremolo. Thus if the tempo is slow the composer would write 64th notes in order to make sure that a tremolo is played, but if the tempo is fast the composer writes 32nd notes. Sometimes the composer writes the word "tremolo" if it is not clear from the tempo and he does want tremolo. But often it is not necessary. The composer can also indicate if he wants it exactly metered.



          The triplets are supposed to be played exact, 3 notes on each quarter note, otherwise it would make no sense to write triplets. Note that the number 3 is tilted. Tilted numbers are standard for tuplets. If it was about fingering they should not be tilted.






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          • I wonder why this answer was downvoted. The answer is correct and relates to what is standard and gives a detailed view that wasn't told in the other answer.

            – Lars Peter Schultz
            2 hours ago











          • I also wonder why. Your answer seems perfectly reasonable. Pedantically, in some places people use tremolo for both measured and unmeasured repetition, which is contrary to the usage in your answer, but that is merely local and not worth a downvote. I have upvoted to cancel out the strange downvote.

            – replete
            1 hour ago











          • I would add that voting on this site is not always easy to understand. I have written quite detailed answers sometimes, giving considerable effort to it, yet they attracted few viewers and only a couple of votes. I have also written very terse answers to simple questions, with little effort - like this one - yet they quickly attracted many votes. All we can do is shrug.

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          These are tremolos.



          The first extract is executed entirely in 32nd notes.



          The second extract is executed entirely in eighth-note triplets.






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          • Thanks. In the second ectract, why would be important to indicate it is about triplets, in other words will the tremolo sound different if one would omit the number 3 ?

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 2





            With the triplets, this measure will contain twelve notes, each written note being played three times. Without the triplet, the measure will contain eight notes, each written note being played twice. If the triplet marking were absent, the quarter notes would not be dotted. This bar is in common time, 4/4. If it were in 12/8, the triplet marking would be unnecessary.

            – replete
            13 hours ago













          • You are saying that without the triplet each not is played twice. As far as I know, when playing a tremolo you play a note as many times as it is possible within the duration of the note. Please correct me If am wrong.

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 5





            @ivo - when tremolo is marked, the number if bars near to the noteheads is usually indicative of how fast the tremolo is expected to be played.

            – Tim
            12 hours ago











          • Thanks. How fast one should play the first note on the first picture above, or better, how many times should one play it ?

            – ivo
            10 hours ago
















          8














          These are tremolos.



          The first extract is executed entirely in 32nd notes.



          The second extract is executed entirely in eighth-note triplets.






          share|improve this answer
























          • Thanks. In the second ectract, why would be important to indicate it is about triplets, in other words will the tremolo sound different if one would omit the number 3 ?

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 2





            With the triplets, this measure will contain twelve notes, each written note being played three times. Without the triplet, the measure will contain eight notes, each written note being played twice. If the triplet marking were absent, the quarter notes would not be dotted. This bar is in common time, 4/4. If it were in 12/8, the triplet marking would be unnecessary.

            – replete
            13 hours ago













          • You are saying that without the triplet each not is played twice. As far as I know, when playing a tremolo you play a note as many times as it is possible within the duration of the note. Please correct me If am wrong.

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 5





            @ivo - when tremolo is marked, the number if bars near to the noteheads is usually indicative of how fast the tremolo is expected to be played.

            – Tim
            12 hours ago











          • Thanks. How fast one should play the first note on the first picture above, or better, how many times should one play it ?

            – ivo
            10 hours ago














          8












          8








          8







          These are tremolos.



          The first extract is executed entirely in 32nd notes.



          The second extract is executed entirely in eighth-note triplets.






          share|improve this answer













          These are tremolos.



          The first extract is executed entirely in 32nd notes.



          The second extract is executed entirely in eighth-note triplets.







          share|improve this answer












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          • Thanks. In the second ectract, why would be important to indicate it is about triplets, in other words will the tremolo sound different if one would omit the number 3 ?

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 2





            With the triplets, this measure will contain twelve notes, each written note being played three times. Without the triplet, the measure will contain eight notes, each written note being played twice. If the triplet marking were absent, the quarter notes would not be dotted. This bar is in common time, 4/4. If it were in 12/8, the triplet marking would be unnecessary.

            – replete
            13 hours ago













          • You are saying that without the triplet each not is played twice. As far as I know, when playing a tremolo you play a note as many times as it is possible within the duration of the note. Please correct me If am wrong.

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 5





            @ivo - when tremolo is marked, the number if bars near to the noteheads is usually indicative of how fast the tremolo is expected to be played.

            – Tim
            12 hours ago











          • Thanks. How fast one should play the first note on the first picture above, or better, how many times should one play it ?

            – ivo
            10 hours ago



















          • Thanks. In the second ectract, why would be important to indicate it is about triplets, in other words will the tremolo sound different if one would omit the number 3 ?

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 2





            With the triplets, this measure will contain twelve notes, each written note being played three times. Without the triplet, the measure will contain eight notes, each written note being played twice. If the triplet marking were absent, the quarter notes would not be dotted. This bar is in common time, 4/4. If it were in 12/8, the triplet marking would be unnecessary.

            – replete
            13 hours ago













          • You are saying that without the triplet each not is played twice. As far as I know, when playing a tremolo you play a note as many times as it is possible within the duration of the note. Please correct me If am wrong.

            – ivo
            13 hours ago






          • 5





            @ivo - when tremolo is marked, the number if bars near to the noteheads is usually indicative of how fast the tremolo is expected to be played.

            – Tim
            12 hours ago











          • Thanks. How fast one should play the first note on the first picture above, or better, how many times should one play it ?

            – ivo
            10 hours ago

















          Thanks. In the second ectract, why would be important to indicate it is about triplets, in other words will the tremolo sound different if one would omit the number 3 ?

          – ivo
          13 hours ago





          Thanks. In the second ectract, why would be important to indicate it is about triplets, in other words will the tremolo sound different if one would omit the number 3 ?

          – ivo
          13 hours ago




          2




          2





          With the triplets, this measure will contain twelve notes, each written note being played three times. Without the triplet, the measure will contain eight notes, each written note being played twice. If the triplet marking were absent, the quarter notes would not be dotted. This bar is in common time, 4/4. If it were in 12/8, the triplet marking would be unnecessary.

          – replete
          13 hours ago







          With the triplets, this measure will contain twelve notes, each written note being played three times. Without the triplet, the measure will contain eight notes, each written note being played twice. If the triplet marking were absent, the quarter notes would not be dotted. This bar is in common time, 4/4. If it were in 12/8, the triplet marking would be unnecessary.

          – replete
          13 hours ago















          You are saying that without the triplet each not is played twice. As far as I know, when playing a tremolo you play a note as many times as it is possible within the duration of the note. Please correct me If am wrong.

          – ivo
          13 hours ago





          You are saying that without the triplet each not is played twice. As far as I know, when playing a tremolo you play a note as many times as it is possible within the duration of the note. Please correct me If am wrong.

          – ivo
          13 hours ago




          5




          5





          @ivo - when tremolo is marked, the number if bars near to the noteheads is usually indicative of how fast the tremolo is expected to be played.

          – Tim
          12 hours ago





          @ivo - when tremolo is marked, the number if bars near to the noteheads is usually indicative of how fast the tremolo is expected to be played.

          – Tim
          12 hours ago













          Thanks. How fast one should play the first note on the first picture above, or better, how many times should one play it ?

          – ivo
          10 hours ago





          Thanks. How fast one should play the first note on the first picture above, or better, how many times should one play it ?

          – ivo
          10 hours ago











          0














          Whether it is tremolo or not depends on the tempo. I mean how fast is the quarter notes? If the tempo is slow then you can play the 32nd notes exactly as 32nd notes. If the tempo is fast then it is tremolo.



          A usual way to notate tremolo is to make the note values so fast in the relation to the tempo that it is obvious the composer wants tremolo. Thus if the tempo is slow the composer would write 64th notes in order to make sure that a tremolo is played, but if the tempo is fast the composer writes 32nd notes. Sometimes the composer writes the word "tremolo" if it is not clear from the tempo and he does want tremolo. But often it is not necessary. The composer can also indicate if he wants it exactly metered.



          The triplets are supposed to be played exact, 3 notes on each quarter note, otherwise it would make no sense to write triplets. Note that the number 3 is tilted. Tilted numbers are standard for tuplets. If it was about fingering they should not be tilted.






          share|improve this answer


























          • I wonder why this answer was downvoted. The answer is correct and relates to what is standard and gives a detailed view that wasn't told in the other answer.

            – Lars Peter Schultz
            2 hours ago











          • I also wonder why. Your answer seems perfectly reasonable. Pedantically, in some places people use tremolo for both measured and unmeasured repetition, which is contrary to the usage in your answer, but that is merely local and not worth a downvote. I have upvoted to cancel out the strange downvote.

            – replete
            1 hour ago











          • I would add that voting on this site is not always easy to understand. I have written quite detailed answers sometimes, giving considerable effort to it, yet they attracted few viewers and only a couple of votes. I have also written very terse answers to simple questions, with little effort - like this one - yet they quickly attracted many votes. All we can do is shrug.

            – replete
            1 hour ago


















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          Whether it is tremolo or not depends on the tempo. I mean how fast is the quarter notes? If the tempo is slow then you can play the 32nd notes exactly as 32nd notes. If the tempo is fast then it is tremolo.



          A usual way to notate tremolo is to make the note values so fast in the relation to the tempo that it is obvious the composer wants tremolo. Thus if the tempo is slow the composer would write 64th notes in order to make sure that a tremolo is played, but if the tempo is fast the composer writes 32nd notes. Sometimes the composer writes the word "tremolo" if it is not clear from the tempo and he does want tremolo. But often it is not necessary. The composer can also indicate if he wants it exactly metered.



          The triplets are supposed to be played exact, 3 notes on each quarter note, otherwise it would make no sense to write triplets. Note that the number 3 is tilted. Tilted numbers are standard for tuplets. If it was about fingering they should not be tilted.






          share|improve this answer


























          • I wonder why this answer was downvoted. The answer is correct and relates to what is standard and gives a detailed view that wasn't told in the other answer.

            – Lars Peter Schultz
            2 hours ago











          • I also wonder why. Your answer seems perfectly reasonable. Pedantically, in some places people use tremolo for both measured and unmeasured repetition, which is contrary to the usage in your answer, but that is merely local and not worth a downvote. I have upvoted to cancel out the strange downvote.

            – replete
            1 hour ago











          • I would add that voting on this site is not always easy to understand. I have written quite detailed answers sometimes, giving considerable effort to it, yet they attracted few viewers and only a couple of votes. I have also written very terse answers to simple questions, with little effort - like this one - yet they quickly attracted many votes. All we can do is shrug.

            – replete
            1 hour ago
















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          Whether it is tremolo or not depends on the tempo. I mean how fast is the quarter notes? If the tempo is slow then you can play the 32nd notes exactly as 32nd notes. If the tempo is fast then it is tremolo.



          A usual way to notate tremolo is to make the note values so fast in the relation to the tempo that it is obvious the composer wants tremolo. Thus if the tempo is slow the composer would write 64th notes in order to make sure that a tremolo is played, but if the tempo is fast the composer writes 32nd notes. Sometimes the composer writes the word "tremolo" if it is not clear from the tempo and he does want tremolo. But often it is not necessary. The composer can also indicate if he wants it exactly metered.



          The triplets are supposed to be played exact, 3 notes on each quarter note, otherwise it would make no sense to write triplets. Note that the number 3 is tilted. Tilted numbers are standard for tuplets. If it was about fingering they should not be tilted.






          share|improve this answer















          Whether it is tremolo or not depends on the tempo. I mean how fast is the quarter notes? If the tempo is slow then you can play the 32nd notes exactly as 32nd notes. If the tempo is fast then it is tremolo.



          A usual way to notate tremolo is to make the note values so fast in the relation to the tempo that it is obvious the composer wants tremolo. Thus if the tempo is slow the composer would write 64th notes in order to make sure that a tremolo is played, but if the tempo is fast the composer writes 32nd notes. Sometimes the composer writes the word "tremolo" if it is not clear from the tempo and he does want tremolo. But often it is not necessary. The composer can also indicate if he wants it exactly metered.



          The triplets are supposed to be played exact, 3 notes on each quarter note, otherwise it would make no sense to write triplets. Note that the number 3 is tilted. Tilted numbers are standard for tuplets. If it was about fingering they should not be tilted.







          share|improve this answer














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          • I wonder why this answer was downvoted. The answer is correct and relates to what is standard and gives a detailed view that wasn't told in the other answer.

            – Lars Peter Schultz
            2 hours ago











          • I also wonder why. Your answer seems perfectly reasonable. Pedantically, in some places people use tremolo for both measured and unmeasured repetition, which is contrary to the usage in your answer, but that is merely local and not worth a downvote. I have upvoted to cancel out the strange downvote.

            – replete
            1 hour ago











          • I would add that voting on this site is not always easy to understand. I have written quite detailed answers sometimes, giving considerable effort to it, yet they attracted few viewers and only a couple of votes. I have also written very terse answers to simple questions, with little effort - like this one - yet they quickly attracted many votes. All we can do is shrug.

            – replete
            1 hour ago





















          • I wonder why this answer was downvoted. The answer is correct and relates to what is standard and gives a detailed view that wasn't told in the other answer.

            – Lars Peter Schultz
            2 hours ago











          • I also wonder why. Your answer seems perfectly reasonable. Pedantically, in some places people use tremolo for both measured and unmeasured repetition, which is contrary to the usage in your answer, but that is merely local and not worth a downvote. I have upvoted to cancel out the strange downvote.

            – replete
            1 hour ago











          • I would add that voting on this site is not always easy to understand. I have written quite detailed answers sometimes, giving considerable effort to it, yet they attracted few viewers and only a couple of votes. I have also written very terse answers to simple questions, with little effort - like this one - yet they quickly attracted many votes. All we can do is shrug.

            – replete
            1 hour ago



















          I wonder why this answer was downvoted. The answer is correct and relates to what is standard and gives a detailed view that wasn't told in the other answer.

          – Lars Peter Schultz
          2 hours ago





          I wonder why this answer was downvoted. The answer is correct and relates to what is standard and gives a detailed view that wasn't told in the other answer.

          – Lars Peter Schultz
          2 hours ago













          I also wonder why. Your answer seems perfectly reasonable. Pedantically, in some places people use tremolo for both measured and unmeasured repetition, which is contrary to the usage in your answer, but that is merely local and not worth a downvote. I have upvoted to cancel out the strange downvote.

          – replete
          1 hour ago





          I also wonder why. Your answer seems perfectly reasonable. Pedantically, in some places people use tremolo for both measured and unmeasured repetition, which is contrary to the usage in your answer, but that is merely local and not worth a downvote. I have upvoted to cancel out the strange downvote.

          – replete
          1 hour ago













          I would add that voting on this site is not always easy to understand. I have written quite detailed answers sometimes, giving considerable effort to it, yet they attracted few viewers and only a couple of votes. I have also written very terse answers to simple questions, with little effort - like this one - yet they quickly attracted many votes. All we can do is shrug.

          – replete
          1 hour ago







          I would add that voting on this site is not always easy to understand. I have written quite detailed answers sometimes, giving considerable effort to it, yet they attracted few viewers and only a couple of votes. I have also written very terse answers to simple questions, with little effort - like this one - yet they quickly attracted many votes. All we can do is shrug.

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