How did the architect know Trinity will die?
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At the end of his speech, architect explicitly states that Trinity is going to die and there is nothing Neo can do to prevent this.
The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation
of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem
is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors
that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you
from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.
Even though Neo saves Trinity at that instant, she dies only the next day, and Neo returns to the source and to the salvation of Zion. The only difference is that Neo rejected choosing 16 females and 7 males to construct a new Zion.
Architect has full knowledge of everything that is going to happen within the Matrix. His knowledge includes emotions as well, in spite of his inability to understand them. Thus, there is no way he cannot know Neo is going to save Trinity, yet he still states she is going to die.
One assumption might be him bluffing to goad Neo to the source, however, he also states he is incapable of lies and deceptions as well.
I have your word?
What do you think I am? Human?
So, my question is, how did the Architect know that Trinity will die outside the Matrix?
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At the end of his speech, architect explicitly states that Trinity is going to die and there is nothing Neo can do to prevent this.
The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation
of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem
is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors
that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you
from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.
Even though Neo saves Trinity at that instant, she dies only the next day, and Neo returns to the source and to the salvation of Zion. The only difference is that Neo rejected choosing 16 females and 7 males to construct a new Zion.
Architect has full knowledge of everything that is going to happen within the Matrix. His knowledge includes emotions as well, in spite of his inability to understand them. Thus, there is no way he cannot know Neo is going to save Trinity, yet he still states she is going to die.
One assumption might be him bluffing to goad Neo to the source, however, he also states he is incapable of lies and deceptions as well.
I have your word?
What do you think I am? Human?
So, my question is, how did the Architect know that Trinity will die outside the Matrix?
the-matrix
asked 18 hours ago
C.KocaC.Koca
4,7031954
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What's gonna bake your noodle is that he doesn't just know that she's gonna die, but he actually has some footage of it on one of the monitors in his chamber ... before it happens.
– Valorum
18 hours ago
She died out of the Matrix. All the footage shown was in the Matrix.
– C.Koca
18 hours ago
@C.Koca But she did die right? Neo just resurrected her after that.
– Mixxiphoid
17 hours ago
1
@C.Koca I dunno, probably. I just remember a lot of Matrix viewers putting forth ideas about how Neo never left the Matrix. Since he seemed to have reserved some power over machines in real world. To be honest, I don't know for sure / have strong opinion / like the movies, but that would go along with the Architect's idea of the power of choice. If you give people two choices, they'll feel like they're free. So if you give them two versions of the Matrix and let them escape one, then the'll think they're free and won't rebel again. But, like I said, I don't feel strongly about it :)
– Misha R
13 hours ago
2
@MishaR Well, I thought Neo having powers in the real world is already established. Oracles says the power of the one extends beyond Matrix. He feels everything connected to the source, so he has some power over the machines which are connected to the source. Regardless, it is as if the last film is shot for nothing, trinity still dies, neo still goes to the source.
– C.Koca
13 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
At the end of his speech, architect explicitly states that Trinity is going to die and there is nothing Neo can do to prevent this.
The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation
of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem
is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors
that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you
from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.
Even though Neo saves Trinity at that instant, she dies only the next day, and Neo returns to the source and to the salvation of Zion. The only difference is that Neo rejected choosing 16 females and 7 males to construct a new Zion.
Architect has full knowledge of everything that is going to happen within the Matrix. His knowledge includes emotions as well, in spite of his inability to understand them. Thus, there is no way he cannot know Neo is going to save Trinity, yet he still states she is going to die.
One assumption might be him bluffing to goad Neo to the source, however, he also states he is incapable of lies and deceptions as well.
I have your word?
What do you think I am? Human?
So, my question is, how did the Architect know that Trinity will die outside the Matrix?
the-matrix
asked 18 hours ago
C.KocaC.Koca
4,7031954
At the end of his speech, architect explicitly states that Trinity is going to die and there is nothing Neo can do to prevent this.
The door to your right leads to the source, and the salvation
of Zion. The door to the left leads back to the matrix, to her, and to the end of your species. As you adequately put, the problem
is choice. But we already know what you're going to do, don't we? Already I can see the chain reaction, the chemical precursors
that signal the onset of emotion, designed specifically to overwhelm logic, and reason. An emotion that is already blinding you
from the simple, and obvious truth: she is going to die, and there is nothing that you can do to stop it.
Even though Neo saves Trinity at that instant, she dies only the next day, and Neo returns to the source and to the salvation of Zion. The only difference is that Neo rejected choosing 16 females and 7 males to construct a new Zion.
Architect has full knowledge of everything that is going to happen within the Matrix. His knowledge includes emotions as well, in spite of his inability to understand them. Thus, there is no way he cannot know Neo is going to save Trinity, yet he still states she is going to die.
One assumption might be him bluffing to goad Neo to the source, however, he also states he is incapable of lies and deceptions as well.
I have your word?
What do you think I am? Human?
So, my question is, how did the Architect know that Trinity will die outside the Matrix?
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What's gonna bake your noodle is that he doesn't just know that she's gonna die, but he actually has some footage of it on one of the monitors in his chamber ... before it happens.
– Valorum
18 hours ago
She died out of the Matrix. All the footage shown was in the Matrix.
– C.Koca
18 hours ago
@C.Koca But she did die right? Neo just resurrected her after that.
– Mixxiphoid
17 hours ago
1
@C.Koca I dunno, probably. I just remember a lot of Matrix viewers putting forth ideas about how Neo never left the Matrix. Since he seemed to have reserved some power over machines in real world. To be honest, I don't know for sure / have strong opinion / like the movies, but that would go along with the Architect's idea of the power of choice. If you give people two choices, they'll feel like they're free. So if you give them two versions of the Matrix and let them escape one, then the'll think they're free and won't rebel again. But, like I said, I don't feel strongly about it :)
– Misha R
13 hours ago
2
@MishaR Well, I thought Neo having powers in the real world is already established. Oracles says the power of the one extends beyond Matrix. He feels everything connected to the source, so he has some power over the machines which are connected to the source. Regardless, it is as if the last film is shot for nothing, trinity still dies, neo still goes to the source.
– C.Koca
13 hours ago
|
show 4 more comments
4
What's gonna bake your noodle is that he doesn't just know that she's gonna die, but he actually has some footage of it on one of the monitors in his chamber ... before it happens.
– Valorum
18 hours ago
She died out of the Matrix. All the footage shown was in the Matrix.
– C.Koca
18 hours ago
@C.Koca But she did die right? Neo just resurrected her after that.
– Mixxiphoid
17 hours ago
1
@C.Koca I dunno, probably. I just remember a lot of Matrix viewers putting forth ideas about how Neo never left the Matrix. Since he seemed to have reserved some power over machines in real world. To be honest, I don't know for sure / have strong opinion / like the movies, but that would go along with the Architect's idea of the power of choice. If you give people two choices, they'll feel like they're free. So if you give them two versions of the Matrix and let them escape one, then the'll think they're free and won't rebel again. But, like I said, I don't feel strongly about it :)
– Misha R
13 hours ago
2
@MishaR Well, I thought Neo having powers in the real world is already established. Oracles says the power of the one extends beyond Matrix. He feels everything connected to the source, so he has some power over the machines which are connected to the source. Regardless, it is as if the last film is shot for nothing, trinity still dies, neo still goes to the source.
– C.Koca
13 hours ago
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What's gonna bake your noodle is that he doesn't just know that she's gonna die, but he actually has some footage of it on one of the monitors in his chamber ... before it happens.
– Valorum
18 hours ago
What's gonna bake your noodle is that he doesn't just know that she's gonna die, but he actually has some footage of it on one of the monitors in his chamber ... before it happens.
– Valorum
18 hours ago
She died out of the Matrix. All the footage shown was in the Matrix.
– C.Koca
18 hours ago
She died out of the Matrix. All the footage shown was in the Matrix.
– C.Koca
18 hours ago
@C.Koca But she did die right? Neo just resurrected her after that.
– Mixxiphoid
17 hours ago
@C.Koca But she did die right? Neo just resurrected her after that.
– Mixxiphoid
17 hours ago
1
1
@C.Koca I dunno, probably. I just remember a lot of Matrix viewers putting forth ideas about how Neo never left the Matrix. Since he seemed to have reserved some power over machines in real world. To be honest, I don't know for sure / have strong opinion / like the movies, but that would go along with the Architect's idea of the power of choice. If you give people two choices, they'll feel like they're free. So if you give them two versions of the Matrix and let them escape one, then the'll think they're free and won't rebel again. But, like I said, I don't feel strongly about it :)
– Misha R
13 hours ago
@C.Koca I dunno, probably. I just remember a lot of Matrix viewers putting forth ideas about how Neo never left the Matrix. Since he seemed to have reserved some power over machines in real world. To be honest, I don't know for sure / have strong opinion / like the movies, but that would go along with the Architect's idea of the power of choice. If you give people two choices, they'll feel like they're free. So if you give them two versions of the Matrix and let them escape one, then the'll think they're free and won't rebel again. But, like I said, I don't feel strongly about it :)
– Misha R
13 hours ago
2
2
@MishaR Well, I thought Neo having powers in the real world is already established. Oracles says the power of the one extends beyond Matrix. He feels everything connected to the source, so he has some power over the machines which are connected to the source. Regardless, it is as if the last film is shot for nothing, trinity still dies, neo still goes to the source.
– C.Koca
13 hours ago
@MishaR Well, I thought Neo having powers in the real world is already established. Oracles says the power of the one extends beyond Matrix. He feels everything connected to the source, so he has some power over the machines which are connected to the source. Regardless, it is as if the last film is shot for nothing, trinity still dies, neo still goes to the source.
– C.Koca
13 hours ago
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What's gonna bake your noodle is that he doesn't just know that she's gonna die, but he actually has some footage of it on one of the monitors in his chamber ... before it happens.
– Valorum
18 hours ago
She died out of the Matrix. All the footage shown was in the Matrix.
– C.Koca
18 hours ago
@C.Koca But she did die right? Neo just resurrected her after that.
– Mixxiphoid
17 hours ago
1
@C.Koca I dunno, probably. I just remember a lot of Matrix viewers putting forth ideas about how Neo never left the Matrix. Since he seemed to have reserved some power over machines in real world. To be honest, I don't know for sure / have strong opinion / like the movies, but that would go along with the Architect's idea of the power of choice. If you give people two choices, they'll feel like they're free. So if you give them two versions of the Matrix and let them escape one, then the'll think they're free and won't rebel again. But, like I said, I don't feel strongly about it :)
– Misha R
13 hours ago
2
@MishaR Well, I thought Neo having powers in the real world is already established. Oracles says the power of the one extends beyond Matrix. He feels everything connected to the source, so he has some power over the machines which are connected to the source. Regardless, it is as if the last film is shot for nothing, trinity still dies, neo still goes to the source.
– C.Koca
13 hours ago