Who was really the “fizzle bomber” in Predestination?












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Who was the fizzle bomber, and how? The film indicates that




Ethan Hawke's charater is, but was he actually the child of two of the same person, one male and one female but the same person?




I don't understand.










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    Yes. Can you expand on what you don't understand?

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    ??!! Somebody filmed "All you Zombies"?

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  • @JRE Yes, brought up to date some, but yes.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:16











  • @ZeissIkon: Bought and watched the DVD shortly after reading this question (2 years ago.) :)

    – JRE
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  • @JRE Sigh. Necrocommenting. Question got bumped, didn't notice it was a couple years old. I have yet to see Predestination -- I'll have to look for it on Netflix and Amazon.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:43
















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Who was the fizzle bomber, and how? The film indicates that




Ethan Hawke's charater is, but was he actually the child of two of the same person, one male and one female but the same person?




I don't understand.










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  • 4





    Yes. Can you expand on what you don't understand?

    – Jason Baker
    May 5 '15 at 16:40






  • 4





    ??!! Somebody filmed "All you Zombies"?

    – JRE
    May 6 '15 at 11:50











  • @JRE Yes, brought up to date some, but yes.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:16











  • @ZeissIkon: Bought and watched the DVD shortly after reading this question (2 years ago.) :)

    – JRE
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:40











  • @JRE Sigh. Necrocommenting. Question got bumped, didn't notice it was a couple years old. I have yet to see Predestination -- I'll have to look for it on Netflix and Amazon.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:43














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Who was the fizzle bomber, and how? The film indicates that




Ethan Hawke's charater is, but was he actually the child of two of the same person, one male and one female but the same person?




I don't understand.










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Who was the fizzle bomber, and how? The film indicates that




Ethan Hawke's charater is, but was he actually the child of two of the same person, one male and one female but the same person?




I don't understand.







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    Yes. Can you expand on what you don't understand?

    – Jason Baker
    May 5 '15 at 16:40






  • 4





    ??!! Somebody filmed "All you Zombies"?

    – JRE
    May 6 '15 at 11:50











  • @JRE Yes, brought up to date some, but yes.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:16











  • @ZeissIkon: Bought and watched the DVD shortly after reading this question (2 years ago.) :)

    – JRE
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:40











  • @JRE Sigh. Necrocommenting. Question got bumped, didn't notice it was a couple years old. I have yet to see Predestination -- I'll have to look for it on Netflix and Amazon.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:43














  • 4





    Yes. Can you expand on what you don't understand?

    – Jason Baker
    May 5 '15 at 16:40






  • 4





    ??!! Somebody filmed "All you Zombies"?

    – JRE
    May 6 '15 at 11:50











  • @JRE Yes, brought up to date some, but yes.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:16











  • @ZeissIkon: Bought and watched the DVD shortly after reading this question (2 years ago.) :)

    – JRE
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:40











  • @JRE Sigh. Necrocommenting. Question got bumped, didn't notice it was a couple years old. I have yet to see Predestination -- I'll have to look for it on Netflix and Amazon.

    – Zeiss Ikon
    Oct 23 '17 at 11:43








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Yes. Can you expand on what you don't understand?

– Jason Baker
May 5 '15 at 16:40





Yes. Can you expand on what you don't understand?

– Jason Baker
May 5 '15 at 16:40




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4





??!! Somebody filmed "All you Zombies"?

– JRE
May 6 '15 at 11:50





??!! Somebody filmed "All you Zombies"?

– JRE
May 6 '15 at 11:50













@JRE Yes, brought up to date some, but yes.

– Zeiss Ikon
Oct 23 '17 at 11:16





@JRE Yes, brought up to date some, but yes.

– Zeiss Ikon
Oct 23 '17 at 11:16













@ZeissIkon: Bought and watched the DVD shortly after reading this question (2 years ago.) :)

– JRE
Oct 23 '17 at 11:40





@ZeissIkon: Bought and watched the DVD shortly after reading this question (2 years ago.) :)

– JRE
Oct 23 '17 at 11:40













@JRE Sigh. Necrocommenting. Question got bumped, didn't notice it was a couple years old. I have yet to see Predestination -- I'll have to look for it on Netflix and Amazon.

– Zeiss Ikon
Oct 23 '17 at 11:43





@JRE Sigh. Necrocommenting. Question got bumped, didn't notice it was a couple years old. I have yet to see Predestination -- I'll have to look for it on Netflix and Amazon.

– Zeiss Ikon
Oct 23 '17 at 11:43










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The major conceit of the story is that using time travel, Hawke (John) travels backwards in time to a point where he crosses his own timeline and has sex with his mother (Jane), kidnaps their resulting offspring and deposits it in an orphanage so that the baby becomes its own mother.



To complicate matters further, it transpires that his mother is himself (having had a sex change some years after having had her baby) and that due to his/her hermaphroditism, s/he has bred with him/herself.



The resulting offspring is recursively both father and mother as well as its own grandparent infinitely.




Oh, and the Fizzle Bomber is an older John, driven mad by all the time travel. He's also the Barkeep, responsible for recruiting himself into the Time Corp.




In short...
enter image description here




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  • Oh god that diagram will take hours to understand...

    – ABcDexter
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:06






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    @ABcDexter - I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.

    – Valorum
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:14





















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Ref: Predestination Explained




Agent Doe travels back in time to complete his last assignment: recruit their priced asset and prevent the New York bombing. So he traveled back in time, ironically, to recruit himself.
Every time he traveled back he has a slight tendency to make a little detour and in his latest rendezvous with time he discovered one very crucial piece of evidence that could lead him to the frizzle Bomber.

As he picked up that piece of evidence he went straight where it leads him and discovered to discovered to his own horror as he stood facing the Frizzled Bomber was none other than himself. Not only was he a progeny of himself, created by the union of Jane and John, he recruited himself, became gent Doe and eventually became the Frizzle Bomber.
With every time travel, it eats a part of his sanity finally creating ‘psychotic’ Frizzle Bomber.







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    Is this recurring misspelling also in what you're citing? Also style isn't a forte in this citation...

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  • "Frizzled"? I didn't think his hair was that bad.

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The major conceit of the story is that using time travel, Hawke (John) travels backwards in time to a point where he crosses his own timeline and has sex with his mother (Jane), kidnaps their resulting offspring and deposits it in an orphanage so that the baby becomes its own mother.



To complicate matters further, it transpires that his mother is himself (having had a sex change some years after having had her baby) and that due to his/her hermaphroditism, s/he has bred with him/herself.



The resulting offspring is recursively both father and mother as well as its own grandparent infinitely.




Oh, and the Fizzle Bomber is an older John, driven mad by all the time travel. He's also the Barkeep, responsible for recruiting himself into the Time Corp.




In short...
enter image description here




enter image description here







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  • Oh god that diagram will take hours to understand...

    – ABcDexter
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:06






  • 1





    @ABcDexter - I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.

    – Valorum
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:14


















10














The major conceit of the story is that using time travel, Hawke (John) travels backwards in time to a point where he crosses his own timeline and has sex with his mother (Jane), kidnaps their resulting offspring and deposits it in an orphanage so that the baby becomes its own mother.



To complicate matters further, it transpires that his mother is himself (having had a sex change some years after having had her baby) and that due to his/her hermaphroditism, s/he has bred with him/herself.



The resulting offspring is recursively both father and mother as well as its own grandparent infinitely.




Oh, and the Fizzle Bomber is an older John, driven mad by all the time travel. He's also the Barkeep, responsible for recruiting himself into the Time Corp.




In short...
enter image description here




enter image description here







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  • Oh god that diagram will take hours to understand...

    – ABcDexter
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:06






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    @ABcDexter - I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.

    – Valorum
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:14
















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The major conceit of the story is that using time travel, Hawke (John) travels backwards in time to a point where he crosses his own timeline and has sex with his mother (Jane), kidnaps their resulting offspring and deposits it in an orphanage so that the baby becomes its own mother.



To complicate matters further, it transpires that his mother is himself (having had a sex change some years after having had her baby) and that due to his/her hermaphroditism, s/he has bred with him/herself.



The resulting offspring is recursively both father and mother as well as its own grandparent infinitely.




Oh, and the Fizzle Bomber is an older John, driven mad by all the time travel. He's also the Barkeep, responsible for recruiting himself into the Time Corp.




In short...
enter image description here




enter image description here







share|improve this answer















The major conceit of the story is that using time travel, Hawke (John) travels backwards in time to a point where he crosses his own timeline and has sex with his mother (Jane), kidnaps their resulting offspring and deposits it in an orphanage so that the baby becomes its own mother.



To complicate matters further, it transpires that his mother is himself (having had a sex change some years after having had her baby) and that due to his/her hermaphroditism, s/he has bred with him/herself.



The resulting offspring is recursively both father and mother as well as its own grandparent infinitely.




Oh, and the Fizzle Bomber is an older John, driven mad by all the time travel. He's also the Barkeep, responsible for recruiting himself into the Time Corp.




In short...
enter image description here




enter image description here








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  • Oh god that diagram will take hours to understand...

    – ABcDexter
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:06






  • 1





    @ABcDexter - I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.

    – Valorum
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:14





















  • Oh god that diagram will take hours to understand...

    – ABcDexter
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:06






  • 1





    @ABcDexter - I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.

    – Valorum
    Oct 31 '18 at 19:14



















Oh god that diagram will take hours to understand...

– ABcDexter
Oct 31 '18 at 19:06





Oh god that diagram will take hours to understand...

– ABcDexter
Oct 31 '18 at 19:06




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@ABcDexter - I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.

– Valorum
Oct 31 '18 at 19:14







@ABcDexter - I suggest you don't worry about this sort of thing and just enjoy yourself.

– Valorum
Oct 31 '18 at 19:14















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Ref: Predestination Explained




Agent Doe travels back in time to complete his last assignment: recruit their priced asset and prevent the New York bombing. So he traveled back in time, ironically, to recruit himself.
Every time he traveled back he has a slight tendency to make a little detour and in his latest rendezvous with time he discovered one very crucial piece of evidence that could lead him to the frizzle Bomber.

As he picked up that piece of evidence he went straight where it leads him and discovered to discovered to his own horror as he stood facing the Frizzled Bomber was none other than himself. Not only was he a progeny of himself, created by the union of Jane and John, he recruited himself, became gent Doe and eventually became the Frizzle Bomber.
With every time travel, it eats a part of his sanity finally creating ‘psychotic’ Frizzle Bomber.







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    Is this recurring misspelling also in what you're citing? Also style isn't a forte in this citation...

    – Mithoron
    Mar 7 at 18:50













  • "Frizzled"? I didn't think his hair was that bad.

    – WhatRoughBeast
    Mar 7 at 19:12
















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Ref: Predestination Explained




Agent Doe travels back in time to complete his last assignment: recruit their priced asset and prevent the New York bombing. So he traveled back in time, ironically, to recruit himself.
Every time he traveled back he has a slight tendency to make a little detour and in his latest rendezvous with time he discovered one very crucial piece of evidence that could lead him to the frizzle Bomber.

As he picked up that piece of evidence he went straight where it leads him and discovered to discovered to his own horror as he stood facing the Frizzled Bomber was none other than himself. Not only was he a progeny of himself, created by the union of Jane and John, he recruited himself, became gent Doe and eventually became the Frizzle Bomber.
With every time travel, it eats a part of his sanity finally creating ‘psychotic’ Frizzle Bomber.







share|improve this answer










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    Is this recurring misspelling also in what you're citing? Also style isn't a forte in this citation...

    – Mithoron
    Mar 7 at 18:50













  • "Frizzled"? I didn't think his hair was that bad.

    – WhatRoughBeast
    Mar 7 at 19:12














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Ref: Predestination Explained




Agent Doe travels back in time to complete his last assignment: recruit their priced asset and prevent the New York bombing. So he traveled back in time, ironically, to recruit himself.
Every time he traveled back he has a slight tendency to make a little detour and in his latest rendezvous with time he discovered one very crucial piece of evidence that could lead him to the frizzle Bomber.

As he picked up that piece of evidence he went straight where it leads him and discovered to discovered to his own horror as he stood facing the Frizzled Bomber was none other than himself. Not only was he a progeny of himself, created by the union of Jane and John, he recruited himself, became gent Doe and eventually became the Frizzle Bomber.
With every time travel, it eats a part of his sanity finally creating ‘psychotic’ Frizzle Bomber.







share|improve this answer










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Ref: Predestination Explained




Agent Doe travels back in time to complete his last assignment: recruit their priced asset and prevent the New York bombing. So he traveled back in time, ironically, to recruit himself.
Every time he traveled back he has a slight tendency to make a little detour and in his latest rendezvous with time he discovered one very crucial piece of evidence that could lead him to the frizzle Bomber.

As he picked up that piece of evidence he went straight where it leads him and discovered to discovered to his own horror as he stood facing the Frizzled Bomber was none other than himself. Not only was he a progeny of himself, created by the union of Jane and John, he recruited himself, became gent Doe and eventually became the Frizzle Bomber.
With every time travel, it eats a part of his sanity finally creating ‘psychotic’ Frizzle Bomber.








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    Is this recurring misspelling also in what you're citing? Also style isn't a forte in this citation...

    – Mithoron
    Mar 7 at 18:50













  • "Frizzled"? I didn't think his hair was that bad.

    – WhatRoughBeast
    Mar 7 at 19:12














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    Is this recurring misspelling also in what you're citing? Also style isn't a forte in this citation...

    – Mithoron
    Mar 7 at 18:50













  • "Frizzled"? I didn't think his hair was that bad.

    – WhatRoughBeast
    Mar 7 at 19:12








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Is this recurring misspelling also in what you're citing? Also style isn't a forte in this citation...

– Mithoron
Mar 7 at 18:50







Is this recurring misspelling also in what you're citing? Also style isn't a forte in this citation...

– Mithoron
Mar 7 at 18:50















"Frizzled"? I didn't think his hair was that bad.

– WhatRoughBeast
Mar 7 at 19:12





"Frizzled"? I didn't think his hair was that bad.

– WhatRoughBeast
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