Can you reject a postdoc offer after the PI has paid a large sum for flights/accommodation for your visit?












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The job search continues...



I am being considered for a very nice industry scientist position but this involves many interviews and assessments and can take some time.



However I have also accepted an invitation to the US (I'm in Australia) to give a presentation in relation to high likelihood of employment as a postdoc in a research institute.



The postdoc supervisor has arranged for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels. I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position.



Has anyone had a similar experience and have you turned down something like that before?










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  • What would you do if you would interview at two places and both PIs pay for your expenses?

    – Hatschu
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  • "Has anyone had a similar experience" is somewhat vague question, and makes it opinion-based. perhaps, you should remove it from the Q, leaving just "can you reject..."

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  • I really hope this is acceptable, because I did exactly this a couple of years ago (being paid for flying from the US to Europe, and later offered a position that I eventually rejected). No one seemed to be annoyed with me at the time. :)

    – Denis Nardin
    11 hours ago













  • The PI arranges for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels either because they think that's the polite and normal thing to do when offering a job, which puts you under no obligation, or to increase the likelihood of you accepting, i.e. by betting on exactly that sense of obligation, which at least I personally would consider a bit of manipulation. Nothing to be offended about, perhaps, but certainly enough to void any sense of obligation I would have. The result is the same in both cases.

    – sgf
    10 hours ago
















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The job search continues...



I am being considered for a very nice industry scientist position but this involves many interviews and assessments and can take some time.



However I have also accepted an invitation to the US (I'm in Australia) to give a presentation in relation to high likelihood of employment as a postdoc in a research institute.



The postdoc supervisor has arranged for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels. I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position.



Has anyone had a similar experience and have you turned down something like that before?










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  • What would you do if you would interview at two places and both PIs pay for your expenses?

    – Hatschu
    12 hours ago











  • "Has anyone had a similar experience" is somewhat vague question, and makes it opinion-based. perhaps, you should remove it from the Q, leaving just "can you reject..."

    – aaaaaa
    11 hours ago











  • I really hope this is acceptable, because I did exactly this a couple of years ago (being paid for flying from the US to Europe, and later offered a position that I eventually rejected). No one seemed to be annoyed with me at the time. :)

    – Denis Nardin
    11 hours ago













  • The PI arranges for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels either because they think that's the polite and normal thing to do when offering a job, which puts you under no obligation, or to increase the likelihood of you accepting, i.e. by betting on exactly that sense of obligation, which at least I personally would consider a bit of manipulation. Nothing to be offended about, perhaps, but certainly enough to void any sense of obligation I would have. The result is the same in both cases.

    – sgf
    10 hours ago














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The job search continues...



I am being considered for a very nice industry scientist position but this involves many interviews and assessments and can take some time.



However I have also accepted an invitation to the US (I'm in Australia) to give a presentation in relation to high likelihood of employment as a postdoc in a research institute.



The postdoc supervisor has arranged for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels. I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position.



Has anyone had a similar experience and have you turned down something like that before?










share|improve this question














The job search continues...



I am being considered for a very nice industry scientist position but this involves many interviews and assessments and can take some time.



However I have also accepted an invitation to the US (I'm in Australia) to give a presentation in relation to high likelihood of employment as a postdoc in a research institute.



The postdoc supervisor has arranged for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels. I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position.



Has anyone had a similar experience and have you turned down something like that before?







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  • What would you do if you would interview at two places and both PIs pay for your expenses?

    – Hatschu
    12 hours ago











  • "Has anyone had a similar experience" is somewhat vague question, and makes it opinion-based. perhaps, you should remove it from the Q, leaving just "can you reject..."

    – aaaaaa
    11 hours ago











  • I really hope this is acceptable, because I did exactly this a couple of years ago (being paid for flying from the US to Europe, and later offered a position that I eventually rejected). No one seemed to be annoyed with me at the time. :)

    – Denis Nardin
    11 hours ago













  • The PI arranges for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels either because they think that's the polite and normal thing to do when offering a job, which puts you under no obligation, or to increase the likelihood of you accepting, i.e. by betting on exactly that sense of obligation, which at least I personally would consider a bit of manipulation. Nothing to be offended about, perhaps, but certainly enough to void any sense of obligation I would have. The result is the same in both cases.

    – sgf
    10 hours ago



















  • What would you do if you would interview at two places and both PIs pay for your expenses?

    – Hatschu
    12 hours ago











  • "Has anyone had a similar experience" is somewhat vague question, and makes it opinion-based. perhaps, you should remove it from the Q, leaving just "can you reject..."

    – aaaaaa
    11 hours ago











  • I really hope this is acceptable, because I did exactly this a couple of years ago (being paid for flying from the US to Europe, and later offered a position that I eventually rejected). No one seemed to be annoyed with me at the time. :)

    – Denis Nardin
    11 hours ago













  • The PI arranges for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels either because they think that's the polite and normal thing to do when offering a job, which puts you under no obligation, or to increase the likelihood of you accepting, i.e. by betting on exactly that sense of obligation, which at least I personally would consider a bit of manipulation. Nothing to be offended about, perhaps, but certainly enough to void any sense of obligation I would have. The result is the same in both cases.

    – sgf
    10 hours ago

















What would you do if you would interview at two places and both PIs pay for your expenses?

– Hatschu
12 hours ago





What would you do if you would interview at two places and both PIs pay for your expenses?

– Hatschu
12 hours ago













"Has anyone had a similar experience" is somewhat vague question, and makes it opinion-based. perhaps, you should remove it from the Q, leaving just "can you reject..."

– aaaaaa
11 hours ago





"Has anyone had a similar experience" is somewhat vague question, and makes it opinion-based. perhaps, you should remove it from the Q, leaving just "can you reject..."

– aaaaaa
11 hours ago













I really hope this is acceptable, because I did exactly this a couple of years ago (being paid for flying from the US to Europe, and later offered a position that I eventually rejected). No one seemed to be annoyed with me at the time. :)

– Denis Nardin
11 hours ago







I really hope this is acceptable, because I did exactly this a couple of years ago (being paid for flying from the US to Europe, and later offered a position that I eventually rejected). No one seemed to be annoyed with me at the time. :)

– Denis Nardin
11 hours ago















The PI arranges for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels either because they think that's the polite and normal thing to do when offering a job, which puts you under no obligation, or to increase the likelihood of you accepting, i.e. by betting on exactly that sense of obligation, which at least I personally would consider a bit of manipulation. Nothing to be offended about, perhaps, but certainly enough to void any sense of obligation I would have. The result is the same in both cases.

– sgf
10 hours ago





The PI arranges for sightseeing and lab visits and hotels either because they think that's the polite and normal thing to do when offering a job, which puts you under no obligation, or to increase the likelihood of you accepting, i.e. by betting on exactly that sense of obligation, which at least I personally would consider a bit of manipulation. Nothing to be offended about, perhaps, but certainly enough to void any sense of obligation I would have. The result is the same in both cases.

– sgf
10 hours ago










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It sounds like you are in the interview phase with no stated commitment in the form of accepting an offer. Having your travel expenses reimbursed for an interview is not in any way a commitment to accept a position should it be offered. This is a completely normal expense that's part of finding good candidates. It is not expected that everyone they offer a job to will accept.



As long as you approach the interview in good faith, meaning that you haven't already accepted a job elsewhere, and that there is some reasonable non-zero probability that you'd take the job if offered, you shouldn't feel bad about having your interview expenses covered because of the possibility you might not wind up there.






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    +1. I'll note also, that the funds aren't coming from the PI personally, but from some funding s/he has. That is their responsibility to manage, not yours. But congratulations that they are showing strong interest in you.

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    +1 This is the right answer. However, given the large expense to fly you in, please be sure that there's a reasonable chance (not just nonzero) that you might take this job. And yes, congratulations.

    – Ethan Bolker
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  • It's great luck to have both a good and even-better job on your plate. What if you saw the just-good position first? You might not know until you did all the visits and interviews. Maybe even now you'll still be surprised and this second one of yours is even better once you have that in-person experience.

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If your date pays for dinner are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not! Same in this instance - you are under no obligation to accept, but as the prevoius poster says it's only good manners to go only if you are seriously considering the role, were you to be offered it.



Good luck with the whole process and hope you find a position you're really excited about one way or another!






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    "are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not!", And besides, nobody ever said they were going steady, and if he does want to go steady he's got to do a lot better than movie, burger, back seat, movie, burger, back seat, because there are plenty of guys with bigger back seats waiting to take her someplace nice!

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    This analogy is not appropriate for the workplace, which includes this site.

    – Reid
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  • @Reid: I don't see how it's not appropriate. It's comparing power dynamics and how spending money on interest in someone doesn't place some obligation on them, and is a pretty good analogy.

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In addition to the other good answers given here, I think it's also important to understand that what feels like a large sum to a graduate student is often not a large sum for the interviewing organization.



Australia's a bit on the farther side, but a quick bit of searching shows that a ticket is still likely to only be on the order of $1000 US; hotel accommodations and meals will likely bring the total only up to around $2000 US.



In contrast, if you're there for a two-year postdoc, the total cost will likely be on the order of $200,000, when you count in all of the benefits and overhead.



Spending a couple percent on investment to make sure you have a good match is entirely reasonable, as long as everybody involved is being honest about intentions and not wasting anybody's time.






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    After Skype interviews we brought the top two candidates over from another continent for face-to-face interviews, tours etc. It's part of the recruitment process to get people on site and spend some time with them, though of course sometimes the money just isn't available.






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      I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position




      Yes, I have experienced such feelings. Don't worry too much about it. Job application and interviewing is just that: process. You spent your time flying, making presentation, they spent some amount of money because they are interested. There is no obligation or expectation that you'll say yes just because they organized your visit.



      Also, they probably have institution account that pays for flying candidates, or grant funds potion that is dedicated for travel. Don't feel like you are cheating anyone if you are just exploring your options.






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        It sounds like you are in the interview phase with no stated commitment in the form of accepting an offer. Having your travel expenses reimbursed for an interview is not in any way a commitment to accept a position should it be offered. This is a completely normal expense that's part of finding good candidates. It is not expected that everyone they offer a job to will accept.



        As long as you approach the interview in good faith, meaning that you haven't already accepted a job elsewhere, and that there is some reasonable non-zero probability that you'd take the job if offered, you shouldn't feel bad about having your interview expenses covered because of the possibility you might not wind up there.






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          +1. I'll note also, that the funds aren't coming from the PI personally, but from some funding s/he has. That is their responsibility to manage, not yours. But congratulations that they are showing strong interest in you.

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          +1 This is the right answer. However, given the large expense to fly you in, please be sure that there's a reasonable chance (not just nonzero) that you might take this job. And yes, congratulations.

          – Ethan Bolker
          14 hours ago











        • It's great luck to have both a good and even-better job on your plate. What if you saw the just-good position first? You might not know until you did all the visits and interviews. Maybe even now you'll still be surprised and this second one of yours is even better once you have that in-person experience.

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        It sounds like you are in the interview phase with no stated commitment in the form of accepting an offer. Having your travel expenses reimbursed for an interview is not in any way a commitment to accept a position should it be offered. This is a completely normal expense that's part of finding good candidates. It is not expected that everyone they offer a job to will accept.



        As long as you approach the interview in good faith, meaning that you haven't already accepted a job elsewhere, and that there is some reasonable non-zero probability that you'd take the job if offered, you shouldn't feel bad about having your interview expenses covered because of the possibility you might not wind up there.






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          +1. I'll note also, that the funds aren't coming from the PI personally, but from some funding s/he has. That is their responsibility to manage, not yours. But congratulations that they are showing strong interest in you.

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          14 hours ago






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          +1 This is the right answer. However, given the large expense to fly you in, please be sure that there's a reasonable chance (not just nonzero) that you might take this job. And yes, congratulations.

          – Ethan Bolker
          14 hours ago











        • It's great luck to have both a good and even-better job on your plate. What if you saw the just-good position first? You might not know until you did all the visits and interviews. Maybe even now you'll still be surprised and this second one of yours is even better once you have that in-person experience.

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        It sounds like you are in the interview phase with no stated commitment in the form of accepting an offer. Having your travel expenses reimbursed for an interview is not in any way a commitment to accept a position should it be offered. This is a completely normal expense that's part of finding good candidates. It is not expected that everyone they offer a job to will accept.



        As long as you approach the interview in good faith, meaning that you haven't already accepted a job elsewhere, and that there is some reasonable non-zero probability that you'd take the job if offered, you shouldn't feel bad about having your interview expenses covered because of the possibility you might not wind up there.






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        It sounds like you are in the interview phase with no stated commitment in the form of accepting an offer. Having your travel expenses reimbursed for an interview is not in any way a commitment to accept a position should it be offered. This is a completely normal expense that's part of finding good candidates. It is not expected that everyone they offer a job to will accept.



        As long as you approach the interview in good faith, meaning that you haven't already accepted a job elsewhere, and that there is some reasonable non-zero probability that you'd take the job if offered, you shouldn't feel bad about having your interview expenses covered because of the possibility you might not wind up there.







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          +1. I'll note also, that the funds aren't coming from the PI personally, but from some funding s/he has. That is their responsibility to manage, not yours. But congratulations that they are showing strong interest in you.

          – Buffy
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          +1 This is the right answer. However, given the large expense to fly you in, please be sure that there's a reasonable chance (not just nonzero) that you might take this job. And yes, congratulations.

          – Ethan Bolker
          14 hours ago











        • It's great luck to have both a good and even-better job on your plate. What if you saw the just-good position first? You might not know until you did all the visits and interviews. Maybe even now you'll still be surprised and this second one of yours is even better once you have that in-person experience.

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          +1. I'll note also, that the funds aren't coming from the PI personally, but from some funding s/he has. That is their responsibility to manage, not yours. But congratulations that they are showing strong interest in you.

          – Buffy
          14 hours ago






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          +1 This is the right answer. However, given the large expense to fly you in, please be sure that there's a reasonable chance (not just nonzero) that you might take this job. And yes, congratulations.

          – Ethan Bolker
          14 hours ago











        • It's great luck to have both a good and even-better job on your plate. What if you saw the just-good position first? You might not know until you did all the visits and interviews. Maybe even now you'll still be surprised and this second one of yours is even better once you have that in-person experience.

          – Mike M
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        +1. I'll note also, that the funds aren't coming from the PI personally, but from some funding s/he has. That is their responsibility to manage, not yours. But congratulations that they are showing strong interest in you.

        – Buffy
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        +1. I'll note also, that the funds aren't coming from the PI personally, but from some funding s/he has. That is their responsibility to manage, not yours. But congratulations that they are showing strong interest in you.

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        +1 This is the right answer. However, given the large expense to fly you in, please be sure that there's a reasonable chance (not just nonzero) that you might take this job. And yes, congratulations.

        – Ethan Bolker
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        +1 This is the right answer. However, given the large expense to fly you in, please be sure that there's a reasonable chance (not just nonzero) that you might take this job. And yes, congratulations.

        – Ethan Bolker
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        It's great luck to have both a good and even-better job on your plate. What if you saw the just-good position first? You might not know until you did all the visits and interviews. Maybe even now you'll still be surprised and this second one of yours is even better once you have that in-person experience.

        – Mike M
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        It's great luck to have both a good and even-better job on your plate. What if you saw the just-good position first? You might not know until you did all the visits and interviews. Maybe even now you'll still be surprised and this second one of yours is even better once you have that in-person experience.

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        If your date pays for dinner are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not! Same in this instance - you are under no obligation to accept, but as the prevoius poster says it's only good manners to go only if you are seriously considering the role, were you to be offered it.



        Good luck with the whole process and hope you find a position you're really excited about one way or another!






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          "are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not!", And besides, nobody ever said they were going steady, and if he does want to go steady he's got to do a lot better than movie, burger, back seat, movie, burger, back seat, because there are plenty of guys with bigger back seats waiting to take her someplace nice!

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          This analogy is not appropriate for the workplace, which includes this site.

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        • @Reid: I don't see how it's not appropriate. It's comparing power dynamics and how spending money on interest in someone doesn't place some obligation on them, and is a pretty good analogy.

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        If your date pays for dinner are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not! Same in this instance - you are under no obligation to accept, but as the prevoius poster says it's only good manners to go only if you are seriously considering the role, were you to be offered it.



        Good luck with the whole process and hope you find a position you're really excited about one way or another!






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          "are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not!", And besides, nobody ever said they were going steady, and if he does want to go steady he's got to do a lot better than movie, burger, back seat, movie, burger, back seat, because there are plenty of guys with bigger back seats waiting to take her someplace nice!

          – Dmitry Grigoryev
          13 hours ago






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          This analogy is not appropriate for the workplace, which includes this site.

          – Reid
          7 hours ago











        • @Reid: I don't see how it's not appropriate. It's comparing power dynamics and how spending money on interest in someone doesn't place some obligation on them, and is a pretty good analogy.

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        If your date pays for dinner are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not! Same in this instance - you are under no obligation to accept, but as the prevoius poster says it's only good manners to go only if you are seriously considering the role, were you to be offered it.



        Good luck with the whole process and hope you find a position you're really excited about one way or another!






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        If your date pays for dinner are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not! Same in this instance - you are under no obligation to accept, but as the prevoius poster says it's only good manners to go only if you are seriously considering the role, were you to be offered it.



        Good luck with the whole process and hope you find a position you're really excited about one way or another!







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          "are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not!", And besides, nobody ever said they were going steady, and if he does want to go steady he's got to do a lot better than movie, burger, back seat, movie, burger, back seat, because there are plenty of guys with bigger back seats waiting to take her someplace nice!

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          13 hours ago






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          This analogy is not appropriate for the workplace, which includes this site.

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        • @Reid: I don't see how it's not appropriate. It's comparing power dynamics and how spending money on interest in someone doesn't place some obligation on them, and is a pretty good analogy.

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          "are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not!", And besides, nobody ever said they were going steady, and if he does want to go steady he's got to do a lot better than movie, burger, back seat, movie, burger, back seat, because there are plenty of guys with bigger back seats waiting to take her someplace nice!

          – Dmitry Grigoryev
          13 hours ago






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          This analogy is not appropriate for the workplace, which includes this site.

          – Reid
          7 hours ago











        • @Reid: I don't see how it's not appropriate. It's comparing power dynamics and how spending money on interest in someone doesn't place some obligation on them, and is a pretty good analogy.

          – R..
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        "are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not!", And besides, nobody ever said they were going steady, and if he does want to go steady he's got to do a lot better than movie, burger, back seat, movie, burger, back seat, because there are plenty of guys with bigger back seats waiting to take her someplace nice!

        – Dmitry Grigoryev
        13 hours ago





        "are you obliged to go home with them? Of course not!", And besides, nobody ever said they were going steady, and if he does want to go steady he's got to do a lot better than movie, burger, back seat, movie, burger, back seat, because there are plenty of guys with bigger back seats waiting to take her someplace nice!

        – Dmitry Grigoryev
        13 hours ago




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        This analogy is not appropriate for the workplace, which includes this site.

        – Reid
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        This analogy is not appropriate for the workplace, which includes this site.

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        @Reid: I don't see how it's not appropriate. It's comparing power dynamics and how spending money on interest in someone doesn't place some obligation on them, and is a pretty good analogy.

        – R..
        5 hours ago





        @Reid: I don't see how it's not appropriate. It's comparing power dynamics and how spending money on interest in someone doesn't place some obligation on them, and is a pretty good analogy.

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        In addition to the other good answers given here, I think it's also important to understand that what feels like a large sum to a graduate student is often not a large sum for the interviewing organization.



        Australia's a bit on the farther side, but a quick bit of searching shows that a ticket is still likely to only be on the order of $1000 US; hotel accommodations and meals will likely bring the total only up to around $2000 US.



        In contrast, if you're there for a two-year postdoc, the total cost will likely be on the order of $200,000, when you count in all of the benefits and overhead.



        Spending a couple percent on investment to make sure you have a good match is entirely reasonable, as long as everybody involved is being honest about intentions and not wasting anybody's time.






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          In addition to the other good answers given here, I think it's also important to understand that what feels like a large sum to a graduate student is often not a large sum for the interviewing organization.



          Australia's a bit on the farther side, but a quick bit of searching shows that a ticket is still likely to only be on the order of $1000 US; hotel accommodations and meals will likely bring the total only up to around $2000 US.



          In contrast, if you're there for a two-year postdoc, the total cost will likely be on the order of $200,000, when you count in all of the benefits and overhead.



          Spending a couple percent on investment to make sure you have a good match is entirely reasonable, as long as everybody involved is being honest about intentions and not wasting anybody's time.






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            In addition to the other good answers given here, I think it's also important to understand that what feels like a large sum to a graduate student is often not a large sum for the interviewing organization.



            Australia's a bit on the farther side, but a quick bit of searching shows that a ticket is still likely to only be on the order of $1000 US; hotel accommodations and meals will likely bring the total only up to around $2000 US.



            In contrast, if you're there for a two-year postdoc, the total cost will likely be on the order of $200,000, when you count in all of the benefits and overhead.



            Spending a couple percent on investment to make sure you have a good match is entirely reasonable, as long as everybody involved is being honest about intentions and not wasting anybody's time.






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            In addition to the other good answers given here, I think it's also important to understand that what feels like a large sum to a graduate student is often not a large sum for the interviewing organization.



            Australia's a bit on the farther side, but a quick bit of searching shows that a ticket is still likely to only be on the order of $1000 US; hotel accommodations and meals will likely bring the total only up to around $2000 US.



            In contrast, if you're there for a two-year postdoc, the total cost will likely be on the order of $200,000, when you count in all of the benefits and overhead.



            Spending a couple percent on investment to make sure you have a good match is entirely reasonable, as long as everybody involved is being honest about intentions and not wasting anybody's time.







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                After Skype interviews we brought the top two candidates over from another continent for face-to-face interviews, tours etc. It's part of the recruitment process to get people on site and spend some time with them, though of course sometimes the money just isn't available.






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                  After Skype interviews we brought the top two candidates over from another continent for face-to-face interviews, tours etc. It's part of the recruitment process to get people on site and spend some time with them, though of course sometimes the money just isn't available.






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                    After Skype interviews we brought the top two candidates over from another continent for face-to-face interviews, tours etc. It's part of the recruitment process to get people on site and spend some time with them, though of course sometimes the money just isn't available.






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                    After Skype interviews we brought the top two candidates over from another continent for face-to-face interviews, tours etc. It's part of the recruitment process to get people on site and spend some time with them, though of course sometimes the money just isn't available.







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                        I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position




                        Yes, I have experienced such feelings. Don't worry too much about it. Job application and interviewing is just that: process. You spent your time flying, making presentation, they spent some amount of money because they are interested. There is no obligation or expectation that you'll say yes just because they organized your visit.



                        Also, they probably have institution account that pays for flying candidates, or grant funds potion that is dedicated for travel. Don't feel like you are cheating anyone if you are just exploring your options.






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                          I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position




                          Yes, I have experienced such feelings. Don't worry too much about it. Job application and interviewing is just that: process. You spent your time flying, making presentation, they spent some amount of money because they are interested. There is no obligation or expectation that you'll say yes just because they organized your visit.



                          Also, they probably have institution account that pays for flying candidates, or grant funds potion that is dedicated for travel. Don't feel like you are cheating anyone if you are just exploring your options.






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                            I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position




                            Yes, I have experienced such feelings. Don't worry too much about it. Job application and interviewing is just that: process. You spent your time flying, making presentation, they spent some amount of money because they are interested. There is no obligation or expectation that you'll say yes just because they organized your visit.



                            Also, they probably have institution account that pays for flying candidates, or grant funds potion that is dedicated for travel. Don't feel like you are cheating anyone if you are just exploring your options.






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                            I feel bad if somehow I wish to pursue the industry position




                            Yes, I have experienced such feelings. Don't worry too much about it. Job application and interviewing is just that: process. You spent your time flying, making presentation, they spent some amount of money because they are interested. There is no obligation or expectation that you'll say yes just because they organized your visit.



                            Also, they probably have institution account that pays for flying candidates, or grant funds potion that is dedicated for travel. Don't feel like you are cheating anyone if you are just exploring your options.







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