Who is the oldest living non-Forsaken channeler in The Wheel of Time?












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In the Wheel of Time series, those with access to the One Power have extended longevity. At (roughly) 300 years old, Cadsuane Melaidhrin is believed to be the oldest living Aes Sedai during the series.



However, we also find in "A Crown of Swords" that there is




a large community of women called The Kin, and that some among their number are as old as 500 years.




Considering this, what non-Forsaken character in The Wheel of Time would be the oldest living user of the Power? I'm excluding anyone left over from the Age of Legends like the Forsaken, and when I say a user of the Power I mean a man or woman who channels. Also, I'm looking for the oldest still alive as of the end of A Memory of Light.










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    In the Wheel of Time series, those with access to the One Power have extended longevity. At (roughly) 300 years old, Cadsuane Melaidhrin is believed to be the oldest living Aes Sedai during the series.



    However, we also find in "A Crown of Swords" that there is




    a large community of women called The Kin, and that some among their number are as old as 500 years.




    Considering this, what non-Forsaken character in The Wheel of Time would be the oldest living user of the Power? I'm excluding anyone left over from the Age of Legends like the Forsaken, and when I say a user of the Power I mean a man or woman who channels. Also, I'm looking for the oldest still alive as of the end of A Memory of Light.










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      In the Wheel of Time series, those with access to the One Power have extended longevity. At (roughly) 300 years old, Cadsuane Melaidhrin is believed to be the oldest living Aes Sedai during the series.



      However, we also find in "A Crown of Swords" that there is




      a large community of women called The Kin, and that some among their number are as old as 500 years.




      Considering this, what non-Forsaken character in The Wheel of Time would be the oldest living user of the Power? I'm excluding anyone left over from the Age of Legends like the Forsaken, and when I say a user of the Power I mean a man or woman who channels. Also, I'm looking for the oldest still alive as of the end of A Memory of Light.










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      In the Wheel of Time series, those with access to the One Power have extended longevity. At (roughly) 300 years old, Cadsuane Melaidhrin is believed to be the oldest living Aes Sedai during the series.



      However, we also find in "A Crown of Swords" that there is




      a large community of women called The Kin, and that some among their number are as old as 500 years.




      Considering this, what non-Forsaken character in The Wheel of Time would be the oldest living user of the Power? I'm excluding anyone left over from the Age of Legends like the Forsaken, and when I say a user of the Power I mean a man or woman who channels. Also, I'm looking for the oldest still alive as of the end of A Memory of Light.







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          The oldest member of the Kin, and probably the oldest user of the One Power, is one Aloisia, who's nearly 600 years old:




          “The oldest anywhere is a woman called Aloisia Nemosni, an oil merchant in Tear. Egwene, she’s nearly six ... hundred ... years ... old! When the Hall hears that, I wager they’ll be ready to put the Oath Rod on a shelf.”



          “The Light knows three hundred years is a long time,” Elayne put in, “but I can’t say I’m happy myself at the prospect of perhaps cutting my life in half, Egwene. And what of the Oath Rod and your promise to the Kin? Reanne wants to be Aes Sedai, but what happens when she swears? What about Aloisia? Will she fall over dead? You can’t ask them to swear, not knowing.”



          -- Winter's Heart, Chapter 10




          Then there's Lews Therin. Arguably he's still alive: his voice, memories, and knowledge are all present inside Rand's head, and sometimes Rand even starts to display some of his mannerisms and turns of phrase.






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          • do we have any information on how old damane get?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:34











          • @MichaelEdenfield Alivia is 414.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:35











          • true, but do we know if that's unusually old for a Seanchan channeler?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:54






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            Lews Therin wouldn't count, but I was wondering if anyone would catch Aloisia. She's mentioned in Chapter 10 of Winter's Heart, if that helps find the quote.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 16:13






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            @Omegacron So you knew the answer already? I thought this was SFF, not Puzzling SE! ;-)

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:39



















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          Reanne is the oldest women we meet at 412, however, she




          dies




          the next oldest in the kin that we know of is Sumeko Karistov who is speculated to be about 350-360, however, we have no proof of age only that shes older then, Kirstian who while not having a definitive age is at least 315, since she ran away 3 centuries ago from the white tower, and 15 being about as young as you come to the tower. So for known characters its between Reanne and Sumeko. Cadsuane is 295 years old according to this site wot where they say that in notes Jordan left it puts her attaining the shawl at 26 in 731.(current year being 1000 in Memory of light)






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          • Sorry, this is wrong. See my answer and comments on it (to be backed up with canon in a few hours).

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            Jul 15 '15 at 15:36











          • @randal'thor i saw, i forgot about her since we never meet her, shes only mentioned in passing by Elaine and nynaeve and wounding if she would just drop dead using the oath rod.

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:41











          • We do meet Alivia though, and even she's a shade older than Reanne according to the wiki.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:43











          • I'll give you a +1 for the effort @Himarm - you were close.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:03











          • @Omegacron thanks haha, i knew there were some older ones but i couldn't remember if they every named them /sigh and alivia completely slipped my mind, though we dont have a definitive age on her, only that she said she had been leashed for 400 years. whether that was a literal 400 years or give or take a few would have made the difference between her and Reanne. Guess its time for reread number 3. (in 2 years haha)

            – Himarm
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          In terms of the oldest in this life, Aloisia Nemosni, as stated above is the oldest. However, in terms of rebirth, either one of the Heroes of the Horn, Rand or Mat Cauthon would be the oldest. The last is supported by Moiraine's comment while talking to Rand about his claim to the memories and knowledge of Lews Therin,




          "You may have the memories of a man four centuries old, Rand al’Thor, but that does not make you ancient. Otherwise, Matrim Cauthon would be the patriarch of us all.”



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          • could you pls source your quote.

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          • Mat wasn't old at all though. He had a bunch of missing memories from when he was possessed by the dagger. Then, when he made his requests to the Elfinn, they "got rid of all the holes" in his memory by giving him memories that were not his.

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            @TimSparrow Sourced (Moiraine is the speaker). Will add the chapter later unless someone beats me to it.

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          The oldest member of the Kin, and probably the oldest user of the One Power, is one Aloisia, who's nearly 600 years old:




          “The oldest anywhere is a woman called Aloisia Nemosni, an oil merchant in Tear. Egwene, she’s nearly six ... hundred ... years ... old! When the Hall hears that, I wager they’ll be ready to put the Oath Rod on a shelf.”



          “The Light knows three hundred years is a long time,” Elayne put in, “but I can’t say I’m happy myself at the prospect of perhaps cutting my life in half, Egwene. And what of the Oath Rod and your promise to the Kin? Reanne wants to be Aes Sedai, but what happens when she swears? What about Aloisia? Will she fall over dead? You can’t ask them to swear, not knowing.”



          -- Winter's Heart, Chapter 10




          Then there's Lews Therin. Arguably he's still alive: his voice, memories, and knowledge are all present inside Rand's head, and sometimes Rand even starts to display some of his mannerisms and turns of phrase.






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          • do we have any information on how old damane get?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:34











          • @MichaelEdenfield Alivia is 414.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:35











          • true, but do we know if that's unusually old for a Seanchan channeler?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:54






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            Lews Therin wouldn't count, but I was wondering if anyone would catch Aloisia. She's mentioned in Chapter 10 of Winter's Heart, if that helps find the quote.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 16:13






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            @Omegacron So you knew the answer already? I thought this was SFF, not Puzzling SE! ;-)

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:39
















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          The oldest member of the Kin, and probably the oldest user of the One Power, is one Aloisia, who's nearly 600 years old:




          “The oldest anywhere is a woman called Aloisia Nemosni, an oil merchant in Tear. Egwene, she’s nearly six ... hundred ... years ... old! When the Hall hears that, I wager they’ll be ready to put the Oath Rod on a shelf.”



          “The Light knows three hundred years is a long time,” Elayne put in, “but I can’t say I’m happy myself at the prospect of perhaps cutting my life in half, Egwene. And what of the Oath Rod and your promise to the Kin? Reanne wants to be Aes Sedai, but what happens when she swears? What about Aloisia? Will she fall over dead? You can’t ask them to swear, not knowing.”



          -- Winter's Heart, Chapter 10




          Then there's Lews Therin. Arguably he's still alive: his voice, memories, and knowledge are all present inside Rand's head, and sometimes Rand even starts to display some of his mannerisms and turns of phrase.






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          • do we have any information on how old damane get?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:34











          • @MichaelEdenfield Alivia is 414.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:35











          • true, but do we know if that's unusually old for a Seanchan channeler?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:54






          • 2





            Lews Therin wouldn't count, but I was wondering if anyone would catch Aloisia. She's mentioned in Chapter 10 of Winter's Heart, if that helps find the quote.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 16:13






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            @Omegacron So you knew the answer already? I thought this was SFF, not Puzzling SE! ;-)

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:39














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          The oldest member of the Kin, and probably the oldest user of the One Power, is one Aloisia, who's nearly 600 years old:




          “The oldest anywhere is a woman called Aloisia Nemosni, an oil merchant in Tear. Egwene, she’s nearly six ... hundred ... years ... old! When the Hall hears that, I wager they’ll be ready to put the Oath Rod on a shelf.”



          “The Light knows three hundred years is a long time,” Elayne put in, “but I can’t say I’m happy myself at the prospect of perhaps cutting my life in half, Egwene. And what of the Oath Rod and your promise to the Kin? Reanne wants to be Aes Sedai, but what happens when she swears? What about Aloisia? Will she fall over dead? You can’t ask them to swear, not knowing.”



          -- Winter's Heart, Chapter 10




          Then there's Lews Therin. Arguably he's still alive: his voice, memories, and knowledge are all present inside Rand's head, and sometimes Rand even starts to display some of his mannerisms and turns of phrase.






          share|improve this answer















          The oldest member of the Kin, and probably the oldest user of the One Power, is one Aloisia, who's nearly 600 years old:




          “The oldest anywhere is a woman called Aloisia Nemosni, an oil merchant in Tear. Egwene, she’s nearly six ... hundred ... years ... old! When the Hall hears that, I wager they’ll be ready to put the Oath Rod on a shelf.”



          “The Light knows three hundred years is a long time,” Elayne put in, “but I can’t say I’m happy myself at the prospect of perhaps cutting my life in half, Egwene. And what of the Oath Rod and your promise to the Kin? Reanne wants to be Aes Sedai, but what happens when she swears? What about Aloisia? Will she fall over dead? You can’t ask them to swear, not knowing.”



          -- Winter's Heart, Chapter 10




          Then there's Lews Therin. Arguably he's still alive: his voice, memories, and knowledge are all present inside Rand's head, and sometimes Rand even starts to display some of his mannerisms and turns of phrase.







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          • do we have any information on how old damane get?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:34











          • @MichaelEdenfield Alivia is 414.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:35











          • true, but do we know if that's unusually old for a Seanchan channeler?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:54






          • 2





            Lews Therin wouldn't count, but I was wondering if anyone would catch Aloisia. She's mentioned in Chapter 10 of Winter's Heart, if that helps find the quote.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 16:13






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            @Omegacron So you knew the answer already? I thought this was SFF, not Puzzling SE! ;-)

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:39



















          • do we have any information on how old damane get?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:34











          • @MichaelEdenfield Alivia is 414.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:35











          • true, but do we know if that's unusually old for a Seanchan channeler?

            – KutuluMike
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:54






          • 2





            Lews Therin wouldn't count, but I was wondering if anyone would catch Aloisia. She's mentioned in Chapter 10 of Winter's Heart, if that helps find the quote.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 16:13






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            @Omegacron So you knew the answer already? I thought this was SFF, not Puzzling SE! ;-)

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:39

















          do we have any information on how old damane get?

          – KutuluMike
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:34





          do we have any information on how old damane get?

          – KutuluMike
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:34













          @MichaelEdenfield Alivia is 414.

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:35





          @MichaelEdenfield Alivia is 414.

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:35













          true, but do we know if that's unusually old for a Seanchan channeler?

          – KutuluMike
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:54





          true, but do we know if that's unusually old for a Seanchan channeler?

          – KutuluMike
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:54




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          Lews Therin wouldn't count, but I was wondering if anyone would catch Aloisia. She's mentioned in Chapter 10 of Winter's Heart, if that helps find the quote.

          – Omegacron
          Jul 15 '15 at 16:13





          Lews Therin wouldn't count, but I was wondering if anyone would catch Aloisia. She's mentioned in Chapter 10 of Winter's Heart, if that helps find the quote.

          – Omegacron
          Jul 15 '15 at 16:13




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          @Omegacron So you knew the answer already? I thought this was SFF, not Puzzling SE! ;-)

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 17:39





          @Omegacron So you knew the answer already? I thought this was SFF, not Puzzling SE! ;-)

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 17:39













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          Reanne is the oldest women we meet at 412, however, she




          dies




          the next oldest in the kin that we know of is Sumeko Karistov who is speculated to be about 350-360, however, we have no proof of age only that shes older then, Kirstian who while not having a definitive age is at least 315, since she ran away 3 centuries ago from the white tower, and 15 being about as young as you come to the tower. So for known characters its between Reanne and Sumeko. Cadsuane is 295 years old according to this site wot where they say that in notes Jordan left it puts her attaining the shawl at 26 in 731.(current year being 1000 in Memory of light)






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          • Sorry, this is wrong. See my answer and comments on it (to be backed up with canon in a few hours).

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:36











          • @randal'thor i saw, i forgot about her since we never meet her, shes only mentioned in passing by Elaine and nynaeve and wounding if she would just drop dead using the oath rod.

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:41











          • We do meet Alivia though, and even she's a shade older than Reanne according to the wiki.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:43











          • I'll give you a +1 for the effort @Himarm - you were close.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:03











          • @Omegacron thanks haha, i knew there were some older ones but i couldn't remember if they every named them /sigh and alivia completely slipped my mind, though we dont have a definitive age on her, only that she said she had been leashed for 400 years. whether that was a literal 400 years or give or take a few would have made the difference between her and Reanne. Guess its time for reread number 3. (in 2 years haha)

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:26


















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          Reanne is the oldest women we meet at 412, however, she




          dies




          the next oldest in the kin that we know of is Sumeko Karistov who is speculated to be about 350-360, however, we have no proof of age only that shes older then, Kirstian who while not having a definitive age is at least 315, since she ran away 3 centuries ago from the white tower, and 15 being about as young as you come to the tower. So for known characters its between Reanne and Sumeko. Cadsuane is 295 years old according to this site wot where they say that in notes Jordan left it puts her attaining the shawl at 26 in 731.(current year being 1000 in Memory of light)






          share|improve this answer
























          • Sorry, this is wrong. See my answer and comments on it (to be backed up with canon in a few hours).

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:36











          • @randal'thor i saw, i forgot about her since we never meet her, shes only mentioned in passing by Elaine and nynaeve and wounding if she would just drop dead using the oath rod.

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:41











          • We do meet Alivia though, and even she's a shade older than Reanne according to the wiki.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:43











          • I'll give you a +1 for the effort @Himarm - you were close.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:03











          • @Omegacron thanks haha, i knew there were some older ones but i couldn't remember if they every named them /sigh and alivia completely slipped my mind, though we dont have a definitive age on her, only that she said she had been leashed for 400 years. whether that was a literal 400 years or give or take a few would have made the difference between her and Reanne. Guess its time for reread number 3. (in 2 years haha)

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:26
















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          Reanne is the oldest women we meet at 412, however, she




          dies




          the next oldest in the kin that we know of is Sumeko Karistov who is speculated to be about 350-360, however, we have no proof of age only that shes older then, Kirstian who while not having a definitive age is at least 315, since she ran away 3 centuries ago from the white tower, and 15 being about as young as you come to the tower. So for known characters its between Reanne and Sumeko. Cadsuane is 295 years old according to this site wot where they say that in notes Jordan left it puts her attaining the shawl at 26 in 731.(current year being 1000 in Memory of light)






          share|improve this answer













          Reanne is the oldest women we meet at 412, however, she




          dies




          the next oldest in the kin that we know of is Sumeko Karistov who is speculated to be about 350-360, however, we have no proof of age only that shes older then, Kirstian who while not having a definitive age is at least 315, since she ran away 3 centuries ago from the white tower, and 15 being about as young as you come to the tower. So for known characters its between Reanne and Sumeko. Cadsuane is 295 years old according to this site wot where they say that in notes Jordan left it puts her attaining the shawl at 26 in 731.(current year being 1000 in Memory of light)







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          • Sorry, this is wrong. See my answer and comments on it (to be backed up with canon in a few hours).

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:36











          • @randal'thor i saw, i forgot about her since we never meet her, shes only mentioned in passing by Elaine and nynaeve and wounding if she would just drop dead using the oath rod.

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:41











          • We do meet Alivia though, and even she's a shade older than Reanne according to the wiki.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:43











          • I'll give you a +1 for the effort @Himarm - you were close.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:03











          • @Omegacron thanks haha, i knew there were some older ones but i couldn't remember if they every named them /sigh and alivia completely slipped my mind, though we dont have a definitive age on her, only that she said she had been leashed for 400 years. whether that was a literal 400 years or give or take a few would have made the difference between her and Reanne. Guess its time for reread number 3. (in 2 years haha)

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:26





















          • Sorry, this is wrong. See my answer and comments on it (to be backed up with canon in a few hours).

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:36











          • @randal'thor i saw, i forgot about her since we never meet her, shes only mentioned in passing by Elaine and nynaeve and wounding if she would just drop dead using the oath rod.

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:41











          • We do meet Alivia though, and even she's a shade older than Reanne according to the wiki.

            – Rand al'Thor
            Jul 15 '15 at 15:43











          • I'll give you a +1 for the effort @Himarm - you were close.

            – Omegacron
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:03











          • @Omegacron thanks haha, i knew there were some older ones but i couldn't remember if they every named them /sigh and alivia completely slipped my mind, though we dont have a definitive age on her, only that she said she had been leashed for 400 years. whether that was a literal 400 years or give or take a few would have made the difference between her and Reanne. Guess its time for reread number 3. (in 2 years haha)

            – Himarm
            Jul 15 '15 at 17:26



















          Sorry, this is wrong. See my answer and comments on it (to be backed up with canon in a few hours).

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:36





          Sorry, this is wrong. See my answer and comments on it (to be backed up with canon in a few hours).

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:36













          @randal'thor i saw, i forgot about her since we never meet her, shes only mentioned in passing by Elaine and nynaeve and wounding if she would just drop dead using the oath rod.

          – Himarm
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:41





          @randal'thor i saw, i forgot about her since we never meet her, shes only mentioned in passing by Elaine and nynaeve and wounding if she would just drop dead using the oath rod.

          – Himarm
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:41













          We do meet Alivia though, and even she's a shade older than Reanne according to the wiki.

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:43





          We do meet Alivia though, and even she's a shade older than Reanne according to the wiki.

          – Rand al'Thor
          Jul 15 '15 at 15:43













          I'll give you a +1 for the effort @Himarm - you were close.

          – Omegacron
          Jul 15 '15 at 17:03





          I'll give you a +1 for the effort @Himarm - you were close.

          – Omegacron
          Jul 15 '15 at 17:03













          @Omegacron thanks haha, i knew there were some older ones but i couldn't remember if they every named them /sigh and alivia completely slipped my mind, though we dont have a definitive age on her, only that she said she had been leashed for 400 years. whether that was a literal 400 years or give or take a few would have made the difference between her and Reanne. Guess its time for reread number 3. (in 2 years haha)

          – Himarm
          Jul 15 '15 at 17:26







          @Omegacron thanks haha, i knew there were some older ones but i couldn't remember if they every named them /sigh and alivia completely slipped my mind, though we dont have a definitive age on her, only that she said she had been leashed for 400 years. whether that was a literal 400 years or give or take a few would have made the difference between her and Reanne. Guess its time for reread number 3. (in 2 years haha)

          – Himarm
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          In terms of the oldest in this life, Aloisia Nemosni, as stated above is the oldest. However, in terms of rebirth, either one of the Heroes of the Horn, Rand or Mat Cauthon would be the oldest. The last is supported by Moiraine's comment while talking to Rand about his claim to the memories and knowledge of Lews Therin,




          "You may have the memories of a man four centuries old, Rand al’Thor, but that does not make you ancient. Otherwise, Matrim Cauthon would be the patriarch of us all.”



          The Wheel of Time: A Memory of Light







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          • could you pls source your quote.

            – TimSparrow
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          • Mat wasn't old at all though. He had a bunch of missing memories from when he was possessed by the dagger. Then, when he made his requests to the Elfinn, they "got rid of all the holes" in his memory by giving him memories that were not his.

            – JMac
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            @TimSparrow Sourced (Moiraine is the speaker). Will add the chapter later unless someone beats me to it.

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          In terms of the oldest in this life, Aloisia Nemosni, as stated above is the oldest. However, in terms of rebirth, either one of the Heroes of the Horn, Rand or Mat Cauthon would be the oldest. The last is supported by Moiraine's comment while talking to Rand about his claim to the memories and knowledge of Lews Therin,




          "You may have the memories of a man four centuries old, Rand al’Thor, but that does not make you ancient. Otherwise, Matrim Cauthon would be the patriarch of us all.”



          The Wheel of Time: A Memory of Light







          share|improve this answer


























          • could you pls source your quote.

            – TimSparrow
            Aug 28 '17 at 10:54











          • Mat wasn't old at all though. He had a bunch of missing memories from when he was possessed by the dagger. Then, when he made his requests to the Elfinn, they "got rid of all the holes" in his memory by giving him memories that were not his.

            – JMac
            Aug 28 '17 at 11:07






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            @TimSparrow Sourced (Moiraine is the speaker). Will add the chapter later unless someone beats me to it.

            – Mat Cauthon
            12 hours ago














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          In terms of the oldest in this life, Aloisia Nemosni, as stated above is the oldest. However, in terms of rebirth, either one of the Heroes of the Horn, Rand or Mat Cauthon would be the oldest. The last is supported by Moiraine's comment while talking to Rand about his claim to the memories and knowledge of Lews Therin,




          "You may have the memories of a man four centuries old, Rand al’Thor, but that does not make you ancient. Otherwise, Matrim Cauthon would be the patriarch of us all.”



          The Wheel of Time: A Memory of Light







          share|improve this answer















          In terms of the oldest in this life, Aloisia Nemosni, as stated above is the oldest. However, in terms of rebirth, either one of the Heroes of the Horn, Rand or Mat Cauthon would be the oldest. The last is supported by Moiraine's comment while talking to Rand about his claim to the memories and knowledge of Lews Therin,




          "You may have the memories of a man four centuries old, Rand al’Thor, but that does not make you ancient. Otherwise, Matrim Cauthon would be the patriarch of us all.”



          The Wheel of Time: A Memory of Light








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          • could you pls source your quote.

            – TimSparrow
            Aug 28 '17 at 10:54











          • Mat wasn't old at all though. He had a bunch of missing memories from when he was possessed by the dagger. Then, when he made his requests to the Elfinn, they "got rid of all the holes" in his memory by giving him memories that were not his.

            – JMac
            Aug 28 '17 at 11:07






          • 1





            @TimSparrow Sourced (Moiraine is the speaker). Will add the chapter later unless someone beats me to it.

            – Mat Cauthon
            12 hours ago



















          • could you pls source your quote.

            – TimSparrow
            Aug 28 '17 at 10:54











          • Mat wasn't old at all though. He had a bunch of missing memories from when he was possessed by the dagger. Then, when he made his requests to the Elfinn, they "got rid of all the holes" in his memory by giving him memories that were not his.

            – JMac
            Aug 28 '17 at 11:07






          • 1





            @TimSparrow Sourced (Moiraine is the speaker). Will add the chapter later unless someone beats me to it.

            – Mat Cauthon
            12 hours ago

















          could you pls source your quote.

          – TimSparrow
          Aug 28 '17 at 10:54





          could you pls source your quote.

          – TimSparrow
          Aug 28 '17 at 10:54













          Mat wasn't old at all though. He had a bunch of missing memories from when he was possessed by the dagger. Then, when he made his requests to the Elfinn, they "got rid of all the holes" in his memory by giving him memories that were not his.

          – JMac
          Aug 28 '17 at 11:07





          Mat wasn't old at all though. He had a bunch of missing memories from when he was possessed by the dagger. Then, when he made his requests to the Elfinn, they "got rid of all the holes" in his memory by giving him memories that were not his.

          – JMac
          Aug 28 '17 at 11:07




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          @TimSparrow Sourced (Moiraine is the speaker). Will add the chapter later unless someone beats me to it.

          – Mat Cauthon
          12 hours ago





          @TimSparrow Sourced (Moiraine is the speaker). Will add the chapter later unless someone beats me to it.

          – Mat Cauthon
          12 hours ago


















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