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Is it allowed for a person to be a guru for his own wife? Does any scripture disallows it?










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    Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.

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Is it allowed for a person to be a guru for his own wife? Does any scripture disallows it?










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    Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.

    – Chinmay Sarupria
    3 hours ago














  • 1





    Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.

    – Chinmay Sarupria
    3 hours ago








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Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.

– Chinmay Sarupria
3 hours ago





Why not? Ramakrishna Paramahamsa and Lahiri Mahasaya were guru of their wife.

– Chinmay Sarupria
3 hours ago










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According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.



The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:




RudrayAmale:



Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
Na putrancha
tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
Siddha mantro yadi pati
stadA patnim sa dikshayet |

Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
bhavet ||



In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:



A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
can initiate his wife
but then he can not behave with her like a
daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.




So, it is not totally disallowed.



Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.



But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.




Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
sacred fire.







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    According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.



    The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:




    RudrayAmale:



    Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
    Na putrancha
    tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
    Siddha mantro yadi pati
    stadA patnim sa dikshayet |

    Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
    bhavet ||



    In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:



    A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
    brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
    can initiate his wife
    but then he can not behave with her like a
    daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.




    So, it is not totally disallowed.



    Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.



    But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.




    Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
    sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
    husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
    and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
    sacred fire.







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      According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.



      The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:




      RudrayAmale:



      Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
      Na putrancha
      tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
      Siddha mantro yadi pati
      stadA patnim sa dikshayet |

      Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
      bhavet ||



      In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:



      A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
      brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
      can initiate his wife
      but then he can not behave with her like a
      daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.




      So, it is not totally disallowed.



      Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.



      But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.




      Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
      sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
      husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
      and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
      sacred fire.







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        According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.



        The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:




        RudrayAmale:



        Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
        Na putrancha
        tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
        Siddha mantro yadi pati
        stadA patnim sa dikshayet |

        Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
        bhavet ||



        In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:



        A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
        brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
        can initiate his wife
        but then he can not behave with her like a
        daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.




        So, it is not totally disallowed.



        Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.



        But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.




        Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
        sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
        husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
        and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
        sacred fire.







        share|improve this answer















        According to the Tantras it is usually not ok for the husband to initiate his wife. But if the husband is Siddha Mantra (mastered a Mantra) then he can.



        The Brihat TantrasArah quotes the following verses from the Rudra YAmala Tantram in this context:




        RudrayAmale:



        Na patnim dikshayed bhartA na pitA dikshayeth sutAm |
        Na putrancha
        tathA bhrAtA brAtaram nacha dikshayet ||
        Siddha mantro yadi pati
        stadA patnim sa dikshayet |

        Shakti tvena varArohe na cha sA putrikA
        bhavet ||



        In Rudra YAmala Lord Shiva says to Goddess PArvati:



        A husband must not initiate his wife; a father his son or daughter; a
        brother a brother. However, if the husband is Siddha Mantra, he
        can initiate his wife
        but then he can not behave with her like a
        daughter (because for a Guru his disciples are like his children) like he does with his other disciples.




        So, it is not totally disallowed.



        Now, if we talk about the Smritis (like Manu Smriti etc), then according to those texts, a wife is not qualified to be initiated (here initiation means the Vedic initiation). So, the question itself does not arise.



        But Smritis say for a wife, his husband is her Guru and her stay in his house is the Gurukula VAsa and etc.




        Manu Smriti 2.67. The nuptial ceremony is stated to be the Vedic
        sacrament for women (and to be equal to the initiation), serving the
        husband (equivalent to) the residence in (the house of the) teacher,
        and the household duties (the same) as the (daily) worship of the
        sacred fire.








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