Why is there ghosting when using flash on tripod with image stabilization?












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I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).



The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un



It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.



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    I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.

    – Tetsujin
    6 hours ago











  • Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?

    – Michael C
    6 hours ago













  • Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings

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    6 hours ago













  • Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too

    – Duncan_w
    6 hours ago






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    Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).

    – xenoid
    6 hours ago
















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I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).



The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un



It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.



ghosting



I am relatively new to photography, so still learning, so would be interested in what light (scuse the pun) you experts out there can throw on the matter.










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    I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.

    – Tetsujin
    6 hours ago











  • Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?

    – Michael C
    6 hours ago













  • Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings

    – Duncan_w
    6 hours ago













  • Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too

    – Duncan_w
    6 hours ago






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    Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).

    – xenoid
    6 hours ago














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I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).



The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un



It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.



ghosting



I am relatively new to photography, so still learning, so would be interested in what light (scuse the pun) you experts out there can throw on the matter.










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I am puzzled by the ghosting in this shot. It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).



The camera was on a tripod, and I was using a remote shutter release, so can't see how it could be caused by movement as most posts on the subject suggest. Un



It was taken on a Canon 7D and Sigma 105mm Macro lens with Image stabilization switched on. Flash was in ETTL mode.



ghosting



I am relatively new to photography, so still learning, so would be interested in what light (scuse the pun) you experts out there can throw on the matter.







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  • 4





    I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.

    – Tetsujin
    6 hours ago











  • Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?

    – Michael C
    6 hours ago













  • Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings

    – Duncan_w
    6 hours ago













  • Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too

    – Duncan_w
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).

    – xenoid
    6 hours ago














  • 4





    I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.

    – Tetsujin
    6 hours ago











  • Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?

    – Michael C
    6 hours ago













  • Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings

    – Duncan_w
    6 hours ago













  • Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too

    – Duncan_w
    6 hours ago






  • 1





    Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).

    – xenoid
    6 hours ago








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I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.

– Tetsujin
6 hours ago





I don't know those models enough to provide an answer, but test again with stabilisation off - sometimes on a tripod, it 'fights' & comes out worse than with it off.

– Tetsujin
6 hours ago













Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?

– Michael C
6 hours ago







Was the flash on or off camera? What specific flash model? What Tv with flash? What Tv without flash? Av and ISO for each shot? What exposure mode was used for the flash and non-flash shots?

– Michael C
6 hours ago















Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings

– Duncan_w
6 hours ago







Flash was off camera using a wireless link - Yongnuo 600 ex RTII unfortunatly I don't have all the other settings

– Duncan_w
6 hours ago















Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too

– Duncan_w
6 hours ago





Thanks Tetsujin - I will try that - That was one of my thoughts too

– Duncan_w
6 hours ago




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Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).

– xenoid
6 hours ago





Can we have the whole EXIF data (add to your question)? @Tetsujin: I have hard time coming up with a scenario where the IS produces two sharp images and not a blurred one (exposure) and a sharp on (flash).

– xenoid
6 hours ago










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enter image description hereLooks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.



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    It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).




    Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:




    • What exposure mode were you using in each shot?

    • Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?

    • Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?

    • If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?


    It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).






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      enter image description hereLooks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.



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        enter image description hereLooks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.



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          enter image description hereLooks like it's related to image stabilization as Tetsujin suggested. Managed to replicate the issue. Switched off the IS and the Ghosting went away. It is a new IS lens (Latest Sigma 105mm macro IS). Guess I just need to remember to switch it off in these circumstances.



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              It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).




              Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:




              • What exposure mode were you using in each shot?

              • Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?

              • Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?

              • If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?


              It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).






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                It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).




                Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:




                • What exposure mode were you using in each shot?

                • Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?

                • Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?

                • If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?


                It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).






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                  It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).




                  Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:




                  • What exposure mode were you using in each shot?

                  • Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?

                  • Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?

                  • If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?


                  It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).






                  share|improve this answer














                  It is definitely caused by the flash (shot of the exact same scene without flash removed the ghost image).




                  Not necessarily. The difference could have been something else only tangentially related to using the flash. When comparing the shot taken with the flash and the shot taken without flash:




                  • What exposure mode were you using in each shot?

                  • Did any of the exposure parameters (ISO, Tv, Av) change?

                  • Was the camera set to a specific ISO setting or was 'Auto ISO' enabled?

                  • If using [Av] exposure mode, what setting is selected for [C.Fn I:Exposure → Flash sync. speed in Av mode]?


                  It's entirely possible that a slower shutter time was forced by the use of the flash, depending on your camera's settings at the time. It's also possible that your tripod is not as stable as you might want (or the surface it is sitting on is not as stable as you might want).







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