Why don't Merry and Pippin seem taller than Frodo and Sam, even after drinking ent-draught?












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I believe that in the 2nd movie, Merry and Pip meet Treebeard and drink ent-draught from Fangorn. They didn't appear any taller when we see them in ROTK though, very strangely they are the same heights as Sam and Frodo, and Pippin is shorter than Sam!





I know that they appeared taller (and noticeably stronger in Battle of Bywater) in the books, but how come they are not in the movies: was the movie's ent-draught lagging? How come Merry and Pippin appear the same height as Frodo and Sam in the movie?










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    There is no indication in the film that the ent-draught makes you taller or stronger. It seems that PJ has decided to not include that part of the books.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 13:02






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    @PhilippFlenker Apparently you have not watched the extended edition. Do you even LOTR bro? :)

    – BlackThorn
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:14






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    @TBear While I love the books, I never made it through the extended editions of the movies. It's just too long :) but I am pretty sure that the non extended versions never mention it anywhere.

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  • Also, do the extended versions mention that the draught makes you stronger and bigger? From the accepted answer I can only gather that they drank it, not if someone spoke about the effects.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:23






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    @PhilippFlenker yes, there is a scene where they are visibly growing. See Omegacron's answer. Also, if you liked the books, take some time to watch the extended edition. It is well worth your time.

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I believe that in the 2nd movie, Merry and Pip meet Treebeard and drink ent-draught from Fangorn. They didn't appear any taller when we see them in ROTK though, very strangely they are the same heights as Sam and Frodo, and Pippin is shorter than Sam!





I know that they appeared taller (and noticeably stronger in Battle of Bywater) in the books, but how come they are not in the movies: was the movie's ent-draught lagging? How come Merry and Pippin appear the same height as Frodo and Sam in the movie?










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    There is no indication in the film that the ent-draught makes you taller or stronger. It seems that PJ has decided to not include that part of the books.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 13:02






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    @PhilippFlenker Apparently you have not watched the extended edition. Do you even LOTR bro? :)

    – BlackThorn
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:14






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    @TBear While I love the books, I never made it through the extended editions of the movies. It's just too long :) but I am pretty sure that the non extended versions never mention it anywhere.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:21











  • Also, do the extended versions mention that the draught makes you stronger and bigger? From the accepted answer I can only gather that they drank it, not if someone spoke about the effects.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:23






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    @PhilippFlenker yes, there is a scene where they are visibly growing. See Omegacron's answer. Also, if you liked the books, take some time to watch the extended edition. It is well worth your time.

    – BlackThorn
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:25














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I believe that in the 2nd movie, Merry and Pip meet Treebeard and drink ent-draught from Fangorn. They didn't appear any taller when we see them in ROTK though, very strangely they are the same heights as Sam and Frodo, and Pippin is shorter than Sam!





I know that they appeared taller (and noticeably stronger in Battle of Bywater) in the books, but how come they are not in the movies: was the movie's ent-draught lagging? How come Merry and Pippin appear the same height as Frodo and Sam in the movie?










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I believe that in the 2nd movie, Merry and Pip meet Treebeard and drink ent-draught from Fangorn. They didn't appear any taller when we see them in ROTK though, very strangely they are the same heights as Sam and Frodo, and Pippin is shorter than Sam!





I know that they appeared taller (and noticeably stronger in Battle of Bywater) in the books, but how come they are not in the movies: was the movie's ent-draught lagging? How come Merry and Pippin appear the same height as Frodo and Sam in the movie?







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    There is no indication in the film that the ent-draught makes you taller or stronger. It seems that PJ has decided to not include that part of the books.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 13:02






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    @PhilippFlenker Apparently you have not watched the extended edition. Do you even LOTR bro? :)

    – BlackThorn
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:14






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    @TBear While I love the books, I never made it through the extended editions of the movies. It's just too long :) but I am pretty sure that the non extended versions never mention it anywhere.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:21











  • Also, do the extended versions mention that the draught makes you stronger and bigger? From the accepted answer I can only gather that they drank it, not if someone spoke about the effects.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:23






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    @PhilippFlenker yes, there is a scene where they are visibly growing. See Omegacron's answer. Also, if you liked the books, take some time to watch the extended edition. It is well worth your time.

    – BlackThorn
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:25














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    There is no indication in the film that the ent-draught makes you taller or stronger. It seems that PJ has decided to not include that part of the books.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 13:02






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    @PhilippFlenker Apparently you have not watched the extended edition. Do you even LOTR bro? :)

    – BlackThorn
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:14






  • 1





    @TBear While I love the books, I never made it through the extended editions of the movies. It's just too long :) but I am pretty sure that the non extended versions never mention it anywhere.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:21











  • Also, do the extended versions mention that the draught makes you stronger and bigger? From the accepted answer I can only gather that they drank it, not if someone spoke about the effects.

    – Philipp Flenker
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:23






  • 1





    @PhilippFlenker yes, there is a scene where they are visibly growing. See Omegacron's answer. Also, if you liked the books, take some time to watch the extended edition. It is well worth your time.

    – BlackThorn
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:25








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There is no indication in the film that the ent-draught makes you taller or stronger. It seems that PJ has decided to not include that part of the books.

– Philipp Flenker
Jun 8 '17 at 13:02





There is no indication in the film that the ent-draught makes you taller or stronger. It seems that PJ has decided to not include that part of the books.

– Philipp Flenker
Jun 8 '17 at 13:02




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@PhilippFlenker Apparently you have not watched the extended edition. Do you even LOTR bro? :)

– BlackThorn
Jun 8 '17 at 15:14





@PhilippFlenker Apparently you have not watched the extended edition. Do you even LOTR bro? :)

– BlackThorn
Jun 8 '17 at 15:14




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@TBear While I love the books, I never made it through the extended editions of the movies. It's just too long :) but I am pretty sure that the non extended versions never mention it anywhere.

– Philipp Flenker
Jun 8 '17 at 15:21





@TBear While I love the books, I never made it through the extended editions of the movies. It's just too long :) but I am pretty sure that the non extended versions never mention it anywhere.

– Philipp Flenker
Jun 8 '17 at 15:21













Also, do the extended versions mention that the draught makes you stronger and bigger? From the accepted answer I can only gather that they drank it, not if someone spoke about the effects.

– Philipp Flenker
Jun 8 '17 at 15:23





Also, do the extended versions mention that the draught makes you stronger and bigger? From the accepted answer I can only gather that they drank it, not if someone spoke about the effects.

– Philipp Flenker
Jun 8 '17 at 15:23




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@PhilippFlenker yes, there is a scene where they are visibly growing. See Omegacron's answer. Also, if you liked the books, take some time to watch the extended edition. It is well worth your time.

– BlackThorn
Jun 8 '17 at 15:25





@PhilippFlenker yes, there is a scene where they are visibly growing. See Omegacron's answer. Also, if you liked the books, take some time to watch the extended edition. It is well worth your time.

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Based purely on conjecture, I believe it's because the scene where the ent draught is taken, only appears in the extended release.



While it still happens, for the cinema release it wasn't there, so, it would have been rather strange for the audience to have Merry and Pippin be suddenly and inexplicably taller.



Of course, perhaps they should have changed it for the extended release, but evidently they didn't.






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    Because of their walking trip to Mordor, Frodo and Sam developed thick callouses on their feet that also made them taller.

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    Yet we have Gandalf without his staff for no real reason... (destroyed on in extended version)

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    In the extended release they address this after the march of ents. When Mary measures his height against Pippin and finds they are similar height again he states "Everything's back to normal is all". In the film version it seems ent drought is not permanent.

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    @Phil: appearing without a staff could happen for enough simple reasons that it doesn’t need to be explained onscreen (e.g. Gandalf is downplaying his power to avoid upstaging the hobbits in their moment of glory). Whereas sudden changes in height, without an onscreen explanation, would really look like a continuity error.

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TL;DR: Because of the way the film versions were cut, making them taller would introduce a continuity issue to the theatrical release of the film.





In the Films



The scene you describe - where Merry and Pippin are drinking the Ent-Draught - was only included in the Extended Edition of "The Two Towers". Like the original scene in the book, the dialogue in the film scene (referred to as 'Drinking the Ent-Water') does indeed make reference to the hobbits growing taller by a few inches:




Merry wakes up and looks around. He sees Pippin sitting by a barrel next to a waterfall drinking.



MERRY: Hello? Treebeard? Where has he gone?



PIPPIN: I had the loveliest dream last night. There was this large barrel, full of pipe-weed. And we smoked all of it. And then... you
were sick. I'd give anything for a whiff of Old Toby. stretches



Merry hears what sounds like trees cracking.



MERRY: Did you hear that? There it is again. Something's not right here. Not right at all. Pippin stands up, and when he does he makes a
strange noise.



MERRY: (looks surprised) You just said something...Treeish.



PIPPIN: No, I didn't. I was just stretching. (makes the noise again)



MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



PIPPIN: Who?



MERRY: You!



PIPPIN: Than what?



MERRY: Than me!



PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"!
(he takes another drink quickly)



MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.




When we see the four hobbits side by side later, these new inches aren't there (as seen in your image). That's specifically because the Ent-Water scene had to be cut to meet time restraints, and having Merry & Pippin taller at the end with no explanation for it would confuse audiences.



In 2002, Peter Jackson stated in an interview with EW that he still wanted to include the scene in the Extended Edition because it's funny:




Q: What was the most painful thing to cut from this one?



A: Not a great deal was cut. There’s not very much [extra footage] with Frodo and Sam because there’s so much of Gollum in each of their
scenes, and because those shots are so difficult to do, you don’t
really do Gollum unless you absolutely know that it’s going to be in
the movie. [We cut] the whole scene where Merry and Pippin drink the
Ent draught. I’ll definitely put that on the DVD because it’s so
funny.




Now, all of that said, you could argue that Pippin, at least, DOES seem a couple of inches taller in the image you posted (vs his earlier appearances). The height of all four Hobbits isn't consistent throughout the trilogy - sometimes they all seem the same height, as in the image you posted, while at other times they seem to have varying heights. Frodo is generally shown to be the tallest of the four in such scenes, with Pippin being the shortest.



Here's an example from the cornfield scene in "Fellowship of the Ring":



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And here's another from the Rivendell scenes of "Return of the King":



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Note that in the latter scene, which occurs after the eagle rescue but before the ceremony in Gondor which you posted, Merry & Pippin now both seem taller than Frodo & Sam - Merry by a few inches. This inconsistency may indicate that the height change was originally included with the Ent-Water scene, or it may simply be odd angles and/or something missed by the editors.





In the Books



In the books, the height difference was much more drastic. Merry and Pippin ended up being the tallest Hobbits in the history of the Shire, with Merry still the taller by a small amount (perhaps an inch or less) and approaching almost five feet in height.



Prior to their consumption of Ent-Draught, the tallest Hobbit on record was Bandobras Took at 4'5". So even had the film included the height difference, the paltry few inches mentioned by Pippin was much less than the almost two feet taller they grew in the book.



Or, as it says in the LotR Prologue (Page 2 of 'Concerning Hobbits'):




For they are a little people, smaller than Dwarves: less stout and
stocky, that is, even when they are not actually much shorter. Their
height is variable, ranging between two and four feet of our measure.
They seldom now reach three feet; but they have dwindled, they say,
and in ancient days were taller. According to the Red Book,
Bandobras Took (Bullroarer), son of Isengrim the Second, was four foot
five and able to ride a horse. He was surpassed in all Hobbit records
only by two famous characters of old; but that curious matter is dealt
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  • I don't know that it was ever actually stated that Merry passed Bandobras Took, let alone came close to five feet. Bilbo says (to Pippin and Merry) "If you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive", to which Pippin replies (emphasis mine) "I don't see why we shouldn't try and beat the Bullroarer". At this point, at least, we can assume they are still under 4' 5", and no further explicit mention of their height is made.

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    « or it may simply be odd angles » — Most likely answer right there. In a group of four people, as long as they are within a couple of inches of each other, the combination of angles, uneven ground/floors, distance, posture, and movement will unfailingly and inevitably make the individual members look varyingly taller and shorter than the others when filming (or shooting pictures even). I don’t even think anyone would have noticed if Merry and Pippin had been shown as being two or three inches taller than initially.

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I believe in the extended version they do drink ent-draught and I do think they become taller due to the dialogue shared between the two:



MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



PIPPIN: Who?



MERRY: You!



PIPPIN: Than what?



MERRY: Than me!



PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"! (he takes another drink quickly)



MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.



However, near the end of the The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers the two have went with Treebeard to Isengard and have succeeded from acquiring it back from the Orcs, both Merry and Pippin can be seen with half of their bodies concealed by water. Merry checks his height against Pippin's and is quite happy that 'the world is back to normal' upon finding out Merry is back to being taller than Pippin. To me, this meant that the effects of the ent-draught was only temporary:



MERRY: (Checks height against Pippin's)



PIPPIN: (Turns around to face Merry) What are you doing?



MERRY: Nothing, worlds back to normal. That's all.






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    Based purely on conjecture, I believe it's because the scene where the ent draught is taken, only appears in the extended release.



    While it still happens, for the cinema release it wasn't there, so, it would have been rather strange for the audience to have Merry and Pippin be suddenly and inexplicably taller.



    Of course, perhaps they should have changed it for the extended release, but evidently they didn't.






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      Because of their walking trip to Mordor, Frodo and Sam developed thick callouses on their feet that also made them taller.

      – Clint Eastwood
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      Yet we have Gandalf without his staff for no real reason... (destroyed on in extended version)

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      In the extended release they address this after the march of ents. When Mary measures his height against Pippin and finds they are similar height again he states "Everything's back to normal is all". In the film version it seems ent drought is not permanent.

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      @Phil: appearing without a staff could happen for enough simple reasons that it doesn’t need to be explained onscreen (e.g. Gandalf is downplaying his power to avoid upstaging the hobbits in their moment of glory). Whereas sudden changes in height, without an onscreen explanation, would really look like a continuity error.

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    Based purely on conjecture, I believe it's because the scene where the ent draught is taken, only appears in the extended release.



    While it still happens, for the cinema release it wasn't there, so, it would have been rather strange for the audience to have Merry and Pippin be suddenly and inexplicably taller.



    Of course, perhaps they should have changed it for the extended release, but evidently they didn't.






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      Because of their walking trip to Mordor, Frodo and Sam developed thick callouses on their feet that also made them taller.

      – Clint Eastwood
      Jun 8 '17 at 13:59






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      Yet we have Gandalf without his staff for no real reason... (destroyed on in extended version)

      – Phil
      Jun 9 '17 at 1:39






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      In the extended release they address this after the march of ents. When Mary measures his height against Pippin and finds they are similar height again he states "Everything's back to normal is all". In the film version it seems ent drought is not permanent.

      – Centimane
      Jun 9 '17 at 10:10






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      @Phil: appearing without a staff could happen for enough simple reasons that it doesn’t need to be explained onscreen (e.g. Gandalf is downplaying his power to avoid upstaging the hobbits in their moment of glory). Whereas sudden changes in height, without an onscreen explanation, would really look like a continuity error.

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    • @Centimane I interpreted that to mean Merry is back to being taller than (or at least no shorter than) Pippin after drinking then Ent draught himself, not that they have returned to normal height.

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    Based purely on conjecture, I believe it's because the scene where the ent draught is taken, only appears in the extended release.



    While it still happens, for the cinema release it wasn't there, so, it would have been rather strange for the audience to have Merry and Pippin be suddenly and inexplicably taller.



    Of course, perhaps they should have changed it for the extended release, but evidently they didn't.






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    Based purely on conjecture, I believe it's because the scene where the ent draught is taken, only appears in the extended release.



    While it still happens, for the cinema release it wasn't there, so, it would have been rather strange for the audience to have Merry and Pippin be suddenly and inexplicably taller.



    Of course, perhaps they should have changed it for the extended release, but evidently they didn't.







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      Because of their walking trip to Mordor, Frodo and Sam developed thick callouses on their feet that also made them taller.

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      Jun 8 '17 at 13:59






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      Yet we have Gandalf without his staff for no real reason... (destroyed on in extended version)

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      In the extended release they address this after the march of ents. When Mary measures his height against Pippin and finds they are similar height again he states "Everything's back to normal is all". In the film version it seems ent drought is not permanent.

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      Jun 9 '17 at 10:10






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      @Phil: appearing without a staff could happen for enough simple reasons that it doesn’t need to be explained onscreen (e.g. Gandalf is downplaying his power to avoid upstaging the hobbits in their moment of glory). Whereas sudden changes in height, without an onscreen explanation, would really look like a continuity error.

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    • @Centimane I interpreted that to mean Merry is back to being taller than (or at least no shorter than) Pippin after drinking then Ent draught himself, not that they have returned to normal height.

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      Because of their walking trip to Mordor, Frodo and Sam developed thick callouses on their feet that also made them taller.

      – Clint Eastwood
      Jun 8 '17 at 13:59






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      Yet we have Gandalf without his staff for no real reason... (destroyed on in extended version)

      – Phil
      Jun 9 '17 at 1:39






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      In the extended release they address this after the march of ents. When Mary measures his height against Pippin and finds they are similar height again he states "Everything's back to normal is all". In the film version it seems ent drought is not permanent.

      – Centimane
      Jun 9 '17 at 10:10






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      @Phil: appearing without a staff could happen for enough simple reasons that it doesn’t need to be explained onscreen (e.g. Gandalf is downplaying his power to avoid upstaging the hobbits in their moment of glory). Whereas sudden changes in height, without an onscreen explanation, would really look like a continuity error.

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    In the extended release they address this after the march of ents. When Mary measures his height against Pippin and finds they are similar height again he states "Everything's back to normal is all". In the film version it seems ent drought is not permanent.

    – Centimane
    Jun 9 '17 at 10:10





    In the extended release they address this after the march of ents. When Mary measures his height against Pippin and finds they are similar height again he states "Everything's back to normal is all". In the film version it seems ent drought is not permanent.

    – Centimane
    Jun 9 '17 at 10:10




    3




    3





    @Phil: appearing without a staff could happen for enough simple reasons that it doesn’t need to be explained onscreen (e.g. Gandalf is downplaying his power to avoid upstaging the hobbits in their moment of glory). Whereas sudden changes in height, without an onscreen explanation, would really look like a continuity error.

    – PLL
    Jun 9 '17 at 10:29





    @Phil: appearing without a staff could happen for enough simple reasons that it doesn’t need to be explained onscreen (e.g. Gandalf is downplaying his power to avoid upstaging the hobbits in their moment of glory). Whereas sudden changes in height, without an onscreen explanation, would really look like a continuity error.

    – PLL
    Jun 9 '17 at 10:29













    @Centimane I interpreted that to mean Merry is back to being taller than (or at least no shorter than) Pippin after drinking then Ent draught himself, not that they have returned to normal height.

    – James McLeod
    2 days ago





    @Centimane I interpreted that to mean Merry is back to being taller than (or at least no shorter than) Pippin after drinking then Ent draught himself, not that they have returned to normal height.

    – James McLeod
    2 days ago













    27














    TL;DR: Because of the way the film versions were cut, making them taller would introduce a continuity issue to the theatrical release of the film.





    In the Films



    The scene you describe - where Merry and Pippin are drinking the Ent-Draught - was only included in the Extended Edition of "The Two Towers". Like the original scene in the book, the dialogue in the film scene (referred to as 'Drinking the Ent-Water') does indeed make reference to the hobbits growing taller by a few inches:




    Merry wakes up and looks around. He sees Pippin sitting by a barrel next to a waterfall drinking.



    MERRY: Hello? Treebeard? Where has he gone?



    PIPPIN: I had the loveliest dream last night. There was this large barrel, full of pipe-weed. And we smoked all of it. And then... you
    were sick. I'd give anything for a whiff of Old Toby. stretches



    Merry hears what sounds like trees cracking.



    MERRY: Did you hear that? There it is again. Something's not right here. Not right at all. Pippin stands up, and when he does he makes a
    strange noise.



    MERRY: (looks surprised) You just said something...Treeish.



    PIPPIN: No, I didn't. I was just stretching. (makes the noise again)



    MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



    PIPPIN: Who?



    MERRY: You!



    PIPPIN: Than what?



    MERRY: Than me!



    PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



    MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



    PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"!
    (he takes another drink quickly)



    MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.




    When we see the four hobbits side by side later, these new inches aren't there (as seen in your image). That's specifically because the Ent-Water scene had to be cut to meet time restraints, and having Merry & Pippin taller at the end with no explanation for it would confuse audiences.



    In 2002, Peter Jackson stated in an interview with EW that he still wanted to include the scene in the Extended Edition because it's funny:




    Q: What was the most painful thing to cut from this one?



    A: Not a great deal was cut. There’s not very much [extra footage] with Frodo and Sam because there’s so much of Gollum in each of their
    scenes, and because those shots are so difficult to do, you don’t
    really do Gollum unless you absolutely know that it’s going to be in
    the movie. [We cut] the whole scene where Merry and Pippin drink the
    Ent draught. I’ll definitely put that on the DVD because it’s so
    funny.




    Now, all of that said, you could argue that Pippin, at least, DOES seem a couple of inches taller in the image you posted (vs his earlier appearances). The height of all four Hobbits isn't consistent throughout the trilogy - sometimes they all seem the same height, as in the image you posted, while at other times they seem to have varying heights. Frodo is generally shown to be the tallest of the four in such scenes, with Pippin being the shortest.



    Here's an example from the cornfield scene in "Fellowship of the Ring":



    enter image description here



    And here's another from the Rivendell scenes of "Return of the King":



    enter image description here



    Note that in the latter scene, which occurs after the eagle rescue but before the ceremony in Gondor which you posted, Merry & Pippin now both seem taller than Frodo & Sam - Merry by a few inches. This inconsistency may indicate that the height change was originally included with the Ent-Water scene, or it may simply be odd angles and/or something missed by the editors.





    In the Books



    In the books, the height difference was much more drastic. Merry and Pippin ended up being the tallest Hobbits in the history of the Shire, with Merry still the taller by a small amount (perhaps an inch or less) and approaching almost five feet in height.



    Prior to their consumption of Ent-Draught, the tallest Hobbit on record was Bandobras Took at 4'5". So even had the film included the height difference, the paltry few inches mentioned by Pippin was much less than the almost two feet taller they grew in the book.



    Or, as it says in the LotR Prologue (Page 2 of 'Concerning Hobbits'):




    For they are a little people, smaller than Dwarves: less stout and
    stocky, that is, even when they are not actually much shorter. Their
    height is variable, ranging between two and four feet of our measure.
    They seldom now reach three feet; but they have dwindled, they say,
    and in ancient days were taller. According to the Red Book,
    Bandobras Took (Bullroarer), son of Isengrim the Second, was four foot
    five and able to ride a horse. He was surpassed in all Hobbit records
    only by two famous characters of old; but that curious matter is dealt
    with in this book.







    share|improve this answer


























    • I don't know that it was ever actually stated that Merry passed Bandobras Took, let alone came close to five feet. Bilbo says (to Pippin and Merry) "If you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive", to which Pippin replies (emphasis mine) "I don't see why we shouldn't try and beat the Bullroarer". At this point, at least, we can assume they are still under 4' 5", and no further explicit mention of their height is made.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:19











    • @chepner - You raise a good point. I added the relevant text, it clearly says he was surpassed, meaning they were both taller than 4'5".

      – Omegacron
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:56













    • Good find; I haven't read the prologue in a very long time.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:59






    • 7





      « or it may simply be odd angles » — Most likely answer right there. In a group of four people, as long as they are within a couple of inches of each other, the combination of angles, uneven ground/floors, distance, posture, and movement will unfailingly and inevitably make the individual members look varyingly taller and shorter than the others when filming (or shooting pictures even). I don’t even think anyone would have noticed if Merry and Pippin had been shown as being two or three inches taller than initially.

      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      Jun 8 '17 at 17:03






    • 1





      @Omegacron reading that last quote brought some serious nostalgia

      – LepelLeLama
      Jun 12 '17 at 11:48


















    27














    TL;DR: Because of the way the film versions were cut, making them taller would introduce a continuity issue to the theatrical release of the film.





    In the Films



    The scene you describe - where Merry and Pippin are drinking the Ent-Draught - was only included in the Extended Edition of "The Two Towers". Like the original scene in the book, the dialogue in the film scene (referred to as 'Drinking the Ent-Water') does indeed make reference to the hobbits growing taller by a few inches:




    Merry wakes up and looks around. He sees Pippin sitting by a barrel next to a waterfall drinking.



    MERRY: Hello? Treebeard? Where has he gone?



    PIPPIN: I had the loveliest dream last night. There was this large barrel, full of pipe-weed. And we smoked all of it. And then... you
    were sick. I'd give anything for a whiff of Old Toby. stretches



    Merry hears what sounds like trees cracking.



    MERRY: Did you hear that? There it is again. Something's not right here. Not right at all. Pippin stands up, and when he does he makes a
    strange noise.



    MERRY: (looks surprised) You just said something...Treeish.



    PIPPIN: No, I didn't. I was just stretching. (makes the noise again)



    MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



    PIPPIN: Who?



    MERRY: You!



    PIPPIN: Than what?



    MERRY: Than me!



    PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



    MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



    PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"!
    (he takes another drink quickly)



    MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.




    When we see the four hobbits side by side later, these new inches aren't there (as seen in your image). That's specifically because the Ent-Water scene had to be cut to meet time restraints, and having Merry & Pippin taller at the end with no explanation for it would confuse audiences.



    In 2002, Peter Jackson stated in an interview with EW that he still wanted to include the scene in the Extended Edition because it's funny:




    Q: What was the most painful thing to cut from this one?



    A: Not a great deal was cut. There’s not very much [extra footage] with Frodo and Sam because there’s so much of Gollum in each of their
    scenes, and because those shots are so difficult to do, you don’t
    really do Gollum unless you absolutely know that it’s going to be in
    the movie. [We cut] the whole scene where Merry and Pippin drink the
    Ent draught. I’ll definitely put that on the DVD because it’s so
    funny.




    Now, all of that said, you could argue that Pippin, at least, DOES seem a couple of inches taller in the image you posted (vs his earlier appearances). The height of all four Hobbits isn't consistent throughout the trilogy - sometimes they all seem the same height, as in the image you posted, while at other times they seem to have varying heights. Frodo is generally shown to be the tallest of the four in such scenes, with Pippin being the shortest.



    Here's an example from the cornfield scene in "Fellowship of the Ring":



    enter image description here



    And here's another from the Rivendell scenes of "Return of the King":



    enter image description here



    Note that in the latter scene, which occurs after the eagle rescue but before the ceremony in Gondor which you posted, Merry & Pippin now both seem taller than Frodo & Sam - Merry by a few inches. This inconsistency may indicate that the height change was originally included with the Ent-Water scene, or it may simply be odd angles and/or something missed by the editors.





    In the Books



    In the books, the height difference was much more drastic. Merry and Pippin ended up being the tallest Hobbits in the history of the Shire, with Merry still the taller by a small amount (perhaps an inch or less) and approaching almost five feet in height.



    Prior to their consumption of Ent-Draught, the tallest Hobbit on record was Bandobras Took at 4'5". So even had the film included the height difference, the paltry few inches mentioned by Pippin was much less than the almost two feet taller they grew in the book.



    Or, as it says in the LotR Prologue (Page 2 of 'Concerning Hobbits'):




    For they are a little people, smaller than Dwarves: less stout and
    stocky, that is, even when they are not actually much shorter. Their
    height is variable, ranging between two and four feet of our measure.
    They seldom now reach three feet; but they have dwindled, they say,
    and in ancient days were taller. According to the Red Book,
    Bandobras Took (Bullroarer), son of Isengrim the Second, was four foot
    five and able to ride a horse. He was surpassed in all Hobbit records
    only by two famous characters of old; but that curious matter is dealt
    with in this book.







    share|improve this answer


























    • I don't know that it was ever actually stated that Merry passed Bandobras Took, let alone came close to five feet. Bilbo says (to Pippin and Merry) "If you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive", to which Pippin replies (emphasis mine) "I don't see why we shouldn't try and beat the Bullroarer". At this point, at least, we can assume they are still under 4' 5", and no further explicit mention of their height is made.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:19











    • @chepner - You raise a good point. I added the relevant text, it clearly says he was surpassed, meaning they were both taller than 4'5".

      – Omegacron
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:56













    • Good find; I haven't read the prologue in a very long time.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:59






    • 7





      « or it may simply be odd angles » — Most likely answer right there. In a group of four people, as long as they are within a couple of inches of each other, the combination of angles, uneven ground/floors, distance, posture, and movement will unfailingly and inevitably make the individual members look varyingly taller and shorter than the others when filming (or shooting pictures even). I don’t even think anyone would have noticed if Merry and Pippin had been shown as being two or three inches taller than initially.

      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      Jun 8 '17 at 17:03






    • 1





      @Omegacron reading that last quote brought some serious nostalgia

      – LepelLeLama
      Jun 12 '17 at 11:48
















    27












    27








    27







    TL;DR: Because of the way the film versions were cut, making them taller would introduce a continuity issue to the theatrical release of the film.





    In the Films



    The scene you describe - where Merry and Pippin are drinking the Ent-Draught - was only included in the Extended Edition of "The Two Towers". Like the original scene in the book, the dialogue in the film scene (referred to as 'Drinking the Ent-Water') does indeed make reference to the hobbits growing taller by a few inches:




    Merry wakes up and looks around. He sees Pippin sitting by a barrel next to a waterfall drinking.



    MERRY: Hello? Treebeard? Where has he gone?



    PIPPIN: I had the loveliest dream last night. There was this large barrel, full of pipe-weed. And we smoked all of it. And then... you
    were sick. I'd give anything for a whiff of Old Toby. stretches



    Merry hears what sounds like trees cracking.



    MERRY: Did you hear that? There it is again. Something's not right here. Not right at all. Pippin stands up, and when he does he makes a
    strange noise.



    MERRY: (looks surprised) You just said something...Treeish.



    PIPPIN: No, I didn't. I was just stretching. (makes the noise again)



    MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



    PIPPIN: Who?



    MERRY: You!



    PIPPIN: Than what?



    MERRY: Than me!



    PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



    MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



    PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"!
    (he takes another drink quickly)



    MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.




    When we see the four hobbits side by side later, these new inches aren't there (as seen in your image). That's specifically because the Ent-Water scene had to be cut to meet time restraints, and having Merry & Pippin taller at the end with no explanation for it would confuse audiences.



    In 2002, Peter Jackson stated in an interview with EW that he still wanted to include the scene in the Extended Edition because it's funny:




    Q: What was the most painful thing to cut from this one?



    A: Not a great deal was cut. There’s not very much [extra footage] with Frodo and Sam because there’s so much of Gollum in each of their
    scenes, and because those shots are so difficult to do, you don’t
    really do Gollum unless you absolutely know that it’s going to be in
    the movie. [We cut] the whole scene where Merry and Pippin drink the
    Ent draught. I’ll definitely put that on the DVD because it’s so
    funny.




    Now, all of that said, you could argue that Pippin, at least, DOES seem a couple of inches taller in the image you posted (vs his earlier appearances). The height of all four Hobbits isn't consistent throughout the trilogy - sometimes they all seem the same height, as in the image you posted, while at other times they seem to have varying heights. Frodo is generally shown to be the tallest of the four in such scenes, with Pippin being the shortest.



    Here's an example from the cornfield scene in "Fellowship of the Ring":



    enter image description here



    And here's another from the Rivendell scenes of "Return of the King":



    enter image description here



    Note that in the latter scene, which occurs after the eagle rescue but before the ceremony in Gondor which you posted, Merry & Pippin now both seem taller than Frodo & Sam - Merry by a few inches. This inconsistency may indicate that the height change was originally included with the Ent-Water scene, or it may simply be odd angles and/or something missed by the editors.





    In the Books



    In the books, the height difference was much more drastic. Merry and Pippin ended up being the tallest Hobbits in the history of the Shire, with Merry still the taller by a small amount (perhaps an inch or less) and approaching almost five feet in height.



    Prior to their consumption of Ent-Draught, the tallest Hobbit on record was Bandobras Took at 4'5". So even had the film included the height difference, the paltry few inches mentioned by Pippin was much less than the almost two feet taller they grew in the book.



    Or, as it says in the LotR Prologue (Page 2 of 'Concerning Hobbits'):




    For they are a little people, smaller than Dwarves: less stout and
    stocky, that is, even when they are not actually much shorter. Their
    height is variable, ranging between two and four feet of our measure.
    They seldom now reach three feet; but they have dwindled, they say,
    and in ancient days were taller. According to the Red Book,
    Bandobras Took (Bullroarer), son of Isengrim the Second, was four foot
    five and able to ride a horse. He was surpassed in all Hobbit records
    only by two famous characters of old; but that curious matter is dealt
    with in this book.







    share|improve this answer















    TL;DR: Because of the way the film versions were cut, making them taller would introduce a continuity issue to the theatrical release of the film.





    In the Films



    The scene you describe - where Merry and Pippin are drinking the Ent-Draught - was only included in the Extended Edition of "The Two Towers". Like the original scene in the book, the dialogue in the film scene (referred to as 'Drinking the Ent-Water') does indeed make reference to the hobbits growing taller by a few inches:




    Merry wakes up and looks around. He sees Pippin sitting by a barrel next to a waterfall drinking.



    MERRY: Hello? Treebeard? Where has he gone?



    PIPPIN: I had the loveliest dream last night. There was this large barrel, full of pipe-weed. And we smoked all of it. And then... you
    were sick. I'd give anything for a whiff of Old Toby. stretches



    Merry hears what sounds like trees cracking.



    MERRY: Did you hear that? There it is again. Something's not right here. Not right at all. Pippin stands up, and when he does he makes a
    strange noise.



    MERRY: (looks surprised) You just said something...Treeish.



    PIPPIN: No, I didn't. I was just stretching. (makes the noise again)



    MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



    PIPPIN: Who?



    MERRY: You!



    PIPPIN: Than what?



    MERRY: Than me!



    PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



    MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



    PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"!
    (he takes another drink quickly)



    MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.




    When we see the four hobbits side by side later, these new inches aren't there (as seen in your image). That's specifically because the Ent-Water scene had to be cut to meet time restraints, and having Merry & Pippin taller at the end with no explanation for it would confuse audiences.



    In 2002, Peter Jackson stated in an interview with EW that he still wanted to include the scene in the Extended Edition because it's funny:




    Q: What was the most painful thing to cut from this one?



    A: Not a great deal was cut. There’s not very much [extra footage] with Frodo and Sam because there’s so much of Gollum in each of their
    scenes, and because those shots are so difficult to do, you don’t
    really do Gollum unless you absolutely know that it’s going to be in
    the movie. [We cut] the whole scene where Merry and Pippin drink the
    Ent draught. I’ll definitely put that on the DVD because it’s so
    funny.




    Now, all of that said, you could argue that Pippin, at least, DOES seem a couple of inches taller in the image you posted (vs his earlier appearances). The height of all four Hobbits isn't consistent throughout the trilogy - sometimes they all seem the same height, as in the image you posted, while at other times they seem to have varying heights. Frodo is generally shown to be the tallest of the four in such scenes, with Pippin being the shortest.



    Here's an example from the cornfield scene in "Fellowship of the Ring":



    enter image description here



    And here's another from the Rivendell scenes of "Return of the King":



    enter image description here



    Note that in the latter scene, which occurs after the eagle rescue but before the ceremony in Gondor which you posted, Merry & Pippin now both seem taller than Frodo & Sam - Merry by a few inches. This inconsistency may indicate that the height change was originally included with the Ent-Water scene, or it may simply be odd angles and/or something missed by the editors.





    In the Books



    In the books, the height difference was much more drastic. Merry and Pippin ended up being the tallest Hobbits in the history of the Shire, with Merry still the taller by a small amount (perhaps an inch or less) and approaching almost five feet in height.



    Prior to their consumption of Ent-Draught, the tallest Hobbit on record was Bandobras Took at 4'5". So even had the film included the height difference, the paltry few inches mentioned by Pippin was much less than the almost two feet taller they grew in the book.



    Or, as it says in the LotR Prologue (Page 2 of 'Concerning Hobbits'):




    For they are a little people, smaller than Dwarves: less stout and
    stocky, that is, even when they are not actually much shorter. Their
    height is variable, ranging between two and four feet of our measure.
    They seldom now reach three feet; but they have dwindled, they say,
    and in ancient days were taller. According to the Red Book,
    Bandobras Took (Bullroarer), son of Isengrim the Second, was four foot
    five and able to ride a horse. He was surpassed in all Hobbit records
    only by two famous characters of old; but that curious matter is dealt
    with in this book.








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    • I don't know that it was ever actually stated that Merry passed Bandobras Took, let alone came close to five feet. Bilbo says (to Pippin and Merry) "If you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive", to which Pippin replies (emphasis mine) "I don't see why we shouldn't try and beat the Bullroarer". At this point, at least, we can assume they are still under 4' 5", and no further explicit mention of their height is made.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:19











    • @chepner - You raise a good point. I added the relevant text, it clearly says he was surpassed, meaning they were both taller than 4'5".

      – Omegacron
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:56













    • Good find; I haven't read the prologue in a very long time.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:59






    • 7





      « or it may simply be odd angles » — Most likely answer right there. In a group of four people, as long as they are within a couple of inches of each other, the combination of angles, uneven ground/floors, distance, posture, and movement will unfailingly and inevitably make the individual members look varyingly taller and shorter than the others when filming (or shooting pictures even). I don’t even think anyone would have noticed if Merry and Pippin had been shown as being two or three inches taller than initially.

      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      Jun 8 '17 at 17:03






    • 1





      @Omegacron reading that last quote brought some serious nostalgia

      – LepelLeLama
      Jun 12 '17 at 11:48





















    • I don't know that it was ever actually stated that Merry passed Bandobras Took, let alone came close to five feet. Bilbo says (to Pippin and Merry) "If you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive", to which Pippin replies (emphasis mine) "I don't see why we shouldn't try and beat the Bullroarer". At this point, at least, we can assume they are still under 4' 5", and no further explicit mention of their height is made.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:19











    • @chepner - You raise a good point. I added the relevant text, it clearly says he was surpassed, meaning they were both taller than 4'5".

      – Omegacron
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:56













    • Good find; I haven't read the prologue in a very long time.

      – chepner
      Jun 8 '17 at 15:59






    • 7





      « or it may simply be odd angles » — Most likely answer right there. In a group of four people, as long as they are within a couple of inches of each other, the combination of angles, uneven ground/floors, distance, posture, and movement will unfailingly and inevitably make the individual members look varyingly taller and shorter than the others when filming (or shooting pictures even). I don’t even think anyone would have noticed if Merry and Pippin had been shown as being two or three inches taller than initially.

      – Janus Bahs Jacquet
      Jun 8 '17 at 17:03






    • 1





      @Omegacron reading that last quote brought some serious nostalgia

      – LepelLeLama
      Jun 12 '17 at 11:48



















    I don't know that it was ever actually stated that Merry passed Bandobras Took, let alone came close to five feet. Bilbo says (to Pippin and Merry) "If you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive", to which Pippin replies (emphasis mine) "I don't see why we shouldn't try and beat the Bullroarer". At this point, at least, we can assume they are still under 4' 5", and no further explicit mention of their height is made.

    – chepner
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:19





    I don't know that it was ever actually stated that Merry passed Bandobras Took, let alone came close to five feet. Bilbo says (to Pippin and Merry) "If you don't finish growing up soon, you are going to find hats and clothes expensive", to which Pippin replies (emphasis mine) "I don't see why we shouldn't try and beat the Bullroarer". At this point, at least, we can assume they are still under 4' 5", and no further explicit mention of their height is made.

    – chepner
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:19













    @chepner - You raise a good point. I added the relevant text, it clearly says he was surpassed, meaning they were both taller than 4'5".

    – Omegacron
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:56







    @chepner - You raise a good point. I added the relevant text, it clearly says he was surpassed, meaning they were both taller than 4'5".

    – Omegacron
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:56















    Good find; I haven't read the prologue in a very long time.

    – chepner
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:59





    Good find; I haven't read the prologue in a very long time.

    – chepner
    Jun 8 '17 at 15:59




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    « or it may simply be odd angles » — Most likely answer right there. In a group of four people, as long as they are within a couple of inches of each other, the combination of angles, uneven ground/floors, distance, posture, and movement will unfailingly and inevitably make the individual members look varyingly taller and shorter than the others when filming (or shooting pictures even). I don’t even think anyone would have noticed if Merry and Pippin had been shown as being two or three inches taller than initially.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
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    « or it may simply be odd angles » — Most likely answer right there. In a group of four people, as long as they are within a couple of inches of each other, the combination of angles, uneven ground/floors, distance, posture, and movement will unfailingly and inevitably make the individual members look varyingly taller and shorter than the others when filming (or shooting pictures even). I don’t even think anyone would have noticed if Merry and Pippin had been shown as being two or three inches taller than initially.

    – Janus Bahs Jacquet
    Jun 8 '17 at 17:03




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    @Omegacron reading that last quote brought some serious nostalgia

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    Jun 12 '17 at 11:48







    @Omegacron reading that last quote brought some serious nostalgia

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    I believe in the extended version they do drink ent-draught and I do think they become taller due to the dialogue shared between the two:



    MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



    PIPPIN: Who?



    MERRY: You!



    PIPPIN: Than what?



    MERRY: Than me!



    PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



    MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



    PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"! (he takes another drink quickly)



    MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.



    However, near the end of the The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers the two have went with Treebeard to Isengard and have succeeded from acquiring it back from the Orcs, both Merry and Pippin can be seen with half of their bodies concealed by water. Merry checks his height against Pippin's and is quite happy that 'the world is back to normal' upon finding out Merry is back to being taller than Pippin. To me, this meant that the effects of the ent-draught was only temporary:



    MERRY: (Checks height against Pippin's)



    PIPPIN: (Turns around to face Merry) What are you doing?



    MERRY: Nothing, worlds back to normal. That's all.






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      I believe in the extended version they do drink ent-draught and I do think they become taller due to the dialogue shared between the two:



      MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



      PIPPIN: Who?



      MERRY: You!



      PIPPIN: Than what?



      MERRY: Than me!



      PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



      MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



      PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"! (he takes another drink quickly)



      MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.



      However, near the end of the The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers the two have went with Treebeard to Isengard and have succeeded from acquiring it back from the Orcs, both Merry and Pippin can be seen with half of their bodies concealed by water. Merry checks his height against Pippin's and is quite happy that 'the world is back to normal' upon finding out Merry is back to being taller than Pippin. To me, this meant that the effects of the ent-draught was only temporary:



      MERRY: (Checks height against Pippin's)



      PIPPIN: (Turns around to face Merry) What are you doing?



      MERRY: Nothing, worlds back to normal. That's all.






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        I believe in the extended version they do drink ent-draught and I do think they become taller due to the dialogue shared between the two:



        MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



        PIPPIN: Who?



        MERRY: You!



        PIPPIN: Than what?



        MERRY: Than me!



        PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



        MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



        PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"! (he takes another drink quickly)



        MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.



        However, near the end of the The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers the two have went with Treebeard to Isengard and have succeeded from acquiring it back from the Orcs, both Merry and Pippin can be seen with half of their bodies concealed by water. Merry checks his height against Pippin's and is quite happy that 'the world is back to normal' upon finding out Merry is back to being taller than Pippin. To me, this meant that the effects of the ent-draught was only temporary:



        MERRY: (Checks height against Pippin's)



        PIPPIN: (Turns around to face Merry) What are you doing?



        MERRY: Nothing, worlds back to normal. That's all.






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        I believe in the extended version they do drink ent-draught and I do think they become taller due to the dialogue shared between the two:



        MERRY: (walks round Pippin inspecting him) You're taller.



        PIPPIN: Who?



        MERRY: You!



        PIPPIN: Than what?



        MERRY: Than me!



        PIPPIN: I've always been taller than you.



        MERRY: Pippin, everyone knows I'm the tall one. You're the short one.



        PIPPIN: Please, Merry. You're what? Three-foot-six? At the most? Whereas me, I'm pushing 3'7". (he burps a tree sound again) 3'8"! (he takes another drink quickly)



        MERRY: Three-foot-eight. You did something.



        However, near the end of the The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers the two have went with Treebeard to Isengard and have succeeded from acquiring it back from the Orcs, both Merry and Pippin can be seen with half of their bodies concealed by water. Merry checks his height against Pippin's and is quite happy that 'the world is back to normal' upon finding out Merry is back to being taller than Pippin. To me, this meant that the effects of the ent-draught was only temporary:



        MERRY: (Checks height against Pippin's)



        PIPPIN: (Turns around to face Merry) What are you doing?



        MERRY: Nothing, worlds back to normal. That's all.







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