Chess Massacre Variants-Play Find The Fastest Way?
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I have thought up several variations of massacre chess.
Massacre chess is a game where almost every single move is a capture.
The idea here is that only the chosen type of piece can capture. It can only be captured itself, by the kings of course, once all other possible captures have been done.
This idea for this has the following variations: Kings, Knights, Queens, Rooks, Bishops, Black Bishops, White Bishops, No-Promotion Pawns, and Yes-Promotion Pawns.
This a question to be answered by those of you who wish to do this for fun.
I shall now list my research, and the challenge is for you to beat my games for each variation by making a faster version.
You may choose to do one, two, or all of the. It is up to you. Good luck!
Rules
- Only the chosen type of piece may capture.
- The board must be cleared down to two kings.
- The kings may only take the chosen piece once every other capture possible with that piece has been done.
- It can only be done through legal moves - think FIDE.
- Have fun!
The variants (external links to https://www.apronus.com/chess/pgnviewer/ )
Knights- Kings
- Queens
- Rooks
- Bishops
- Only Black Bishops
- Only White Bishops
- No-Promotion Pawns
Yes-Promotion Pawns
Since if a promoted pawn counts as a piece or not is debatable, this
is a variation to cover that. There is a special rule for this
one-you may only promote after all possible piece and pawn captures
have been done in whatever position/s arise in your game.
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I have thought up several variations of massacre chess.
Massacre chess is a game where almost every single move is a capture.
The idea here is that only the chosen type of piece can capture. It can only be captured itself, by the kings of course, once all other possible captures have been done.
This idea for this has the following variations: Kings, Knights, Queens, Rooks, Bishops, Black Bishops, White Bishops, No-Promotion Pawns, and Yes-Promotion Pawns.
This a question to be answered by those of you who wish to do this for fun.
I shall now list my research, and the challenge is for you to beat my games for each variation by making a faster version.
You may choose to do one, two, or all of the. It is up to you. Good luck!
Rules
- Only the chosen type of piece may capture.
- The board must be cleared down to two kings.
- The kings may only take the chosen piece once every other capture possible with that piece has been done.
- It can only be done through legal moves - think FIDE.
- Have fun!
The variants (external links to https://www.apronus.com/chess/pgnviewer/ )
Knights- Kings
- Queens
- Rooks
- Bishops
- Only Black Bishops
- Only White Bishops
- No-Promotion Pawns
Yes-Promotion Pawns
Since if a promoted pawn counts as a piece or not is debatable, this
is a variation to cover that. There is a special rule for this
one-you may only promote after all possible piece and pawn captures
have been done in whatever position/s arise in your game.
mathematics chess checkerboard game-theory speedsolving
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Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
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Regarding my edit: I wasn't 100% sure: Is it better to show the move-codes (as text) direclty as well? If so, I'd edit them back in.
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– BmyGuest
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Oh no, your edit was extremely helpful. And just keep the links as they are after your edit.
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– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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I have thought up several variations of massacre chess.
Massacre chess is a game where almost every single move is a capture.
The idea here is that only the chosen type of piece can capture. It can only be captured itself, by the kings of course, once all other possible captures have been done.
This idea for this has the following variations: Kings, Knights, Queens, Rooks, Bishops, Black Bishops, White Bishops, No-Promotion Pawns, and Yes-Promotion Pawns.
This a question to be answered by those of you who wish to do this for fun.
I shall now list my research, and the challenge is for you to beat my games for each variation by making a faster version.
You may choose to do one, two, or all of the. It is up to you. Good luck!
Rules
- Only the chosen type of piece may capture.
- The board must be cleared down to two kings.
- The kings may only take the chosen piece once every other capture possible with that piece has been done.
- It can only be done through legal moves - think FIDE.
- Have fun!
The variants (external links to https://www.apronus.com/chess/pgnviewer/ )
Knights- Kings
- Queens
- Rooks
- Bishops
- Only Black Bishops
- Only White Bishops
- No-Promotion Pawns
Yes-Promotion Pawns
Since if a promoted pawn counts as a piece or not is debatable, this
is a variation to cover that. There is a special rule for this
one-you may only promote after all possible piece and pawn captures
have been done in whatever position/s arise in your game.
mathematics chess checkerboard game-theory speedsolving
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Rewan DemontayRewan Demontay
2209
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I have thought up several variations of massacre chess.
Massacre chess is a game where almost every single move is a capture.
The idea here is that only the chosen type of piece can capture. It can only be captured itself, by the kings of course, once all other possible captures have been done.
This idea for this has the following variations: Kings, Knights, Queens, Rooks, Bishops, Black Bishops, White Bishops, No-Promotion Pawns, and Yes-Promotion Pawns.
This a question to be answered by those of you who wish to do this for fun.
I shall now list my research, and the challenge is for you to beat my games for each variation by making a faster version.
You may choose to do one, two, or all of the. It is up to you. Good luck!
Rules
- Only the chosen type of piece may capture.
- The board must be cleared down to two kings.
- The kings may only take the chosen piece once every other capture possible with that piece has been done.
- It can only be done through legal moves - think FIDE.
- Have fun!
The variants (external links to https://www.apronus.com/chess/pgnviewer/ )
Knights- Kings
- Queens
- Rooks
- Bishops
- Only Black Bishops
- Only White Bishops
- No-Promotion Pawns
Yes-Promotion Pawns
Since if a promoted pawn counts as a piece or not is debatable, this
is a variation to cover that. There is a special rule for this
one-you may only promote after all possible piece and pawn captures
have been done in whatever position/s arise in your game.
mathematics chess checkerboard game-theory speedsolving
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Regarding my edit: I wasn't 100% sure: Is it better to show the move-codes (as text) direclty as well? If so, I'd edit them back in.
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– BmyGuest
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Oh no, your edit was extremely helpful. And just keep the links as they are after your edit.
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– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
add a comment |
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Regarding my edit: I wasn't 100% sure: Is it better to show the move-codes (as text) direclty as well? If so, I'd edit them back in.
$endgroup$
– BmyGuest
yesterday
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Oh no, your edit was extremely helpful. And just keep the links as they are after your edit.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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Regarding my edit: I wasn't 100% sure: Is it better to show the move-codes (as text) direclty as well? If so, I'd edit them back in.
$endgroup$
– BmyGuest
yesterday
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Regarding my edit: I wasn't 100% sure: Is it better to show the move-codes (as text) direclty as well? If so, I'd edit them back in.
$endgroup$
– BmyGuest
yesterday
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Oh no, your edit was extremely helpful. And just keep the links as they are after your edit.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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Oh no, your edit was extremely helpful. And just keep the links as they are after your edit.
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– Rewan Demontay
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Does this beat your rooks file? (24.5 moves)
And the Queens (21.5 moves)
The Bishops (23 moves)
NP pawns (35 moves)
YP pawns (33.5 moves)
Dark squared Bishops (26.5 moves) (with constraint added that Light squared Bishops can only be captured by a King)
answered yesterday
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
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Rooks-Yes, Bishops-Yes, Queens-No, becuase one of the Queens is captured BEFORE all other captures of non-queen pieces are completed.
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– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay Good spot! Edited, hopefully it's ok now. I've also added NP pawns. If I understand correctly, this NP-pawn variation is also valid as a YP-pawn?
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Yes, your queens game is now good. NP is also good. YP is the same as NP, but with pawn promotions allowed.
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– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay It's surprisingly not easy to do better with promotion than without (here 1.5 moves better).
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– Arnaud Mortier
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Hm. Yep. So true. And YP is looking good!
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Does this beat your rooks file? (24.5 moves)
And the Queens (21.5 moves)
The Bishops (23 moves)
NP pawns (35 moves)
YP pawns (33.5 moves)
Dark squared Bishops (26.5 moves) (with constraint added that Light squared Bishops can only be captured by a King)
answered yesterday
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Rooks-Yes, Bishops-Yes, Queens-No, becuase one of the Queens is captured BEFORE all other captures of non-queen pieces are completed.
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– Rewan Demontay
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@RewanDemontay Good spot! Edited, hopefully it's ok now. I've also added NP pawns. If I understand correctly, this NP-pawn variation is also valid as a YP-pawn?
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Yes, your queens game is now good. NP is also good. YP is the same as NP, but with pawn promotions allowed.
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– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay It's surprisingly not easy to do better with promotion than without (here 1.5 moves better).
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Hm. Yep. So true. And YP is looking good!
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Does this beat your rooks file? (24.5 moves)
And the Queens (21.5 moves)
The Bishops (23 moves)
NP pawns (35 moves)
YP pawns (33.5 moves)
Dark squared Bishops (26.5 moves) (with constraint added that Light squared Bishops can only be captured by a King)
answered yesterday
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
944218
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Rooks-Yes, Bishops-Yes, Queens-No, becuase one of the Queens is captured BEFORE all other captures of non-queen pieces are completed.
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– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay Good spot! Edited, hopefully it's ok now. I've also added NP pawns. If I understand correctly, this NP-pawn variation is also valid as a YP-pawn?
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– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Yes, your queens game is now good. NP is also good. YP is the same as NP, but with pawn promotions allowed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay It's surprisingly not easy to do better with promotion than without (here 1.5 moves better).
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Hm. Yep. So true. And YP is looking good!
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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show 3 more comments
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Does this beat your rooks file? (24.5 moves)
And the Queens (21.5 moves)
The Bishops (23 moves)
NP pawns (35 moves)
YP pawns (33.5 moves)
Dark squared Bishops (26.5 moves) (with constraint added that Light squared Bishops can only be captured by a King)
answered yesterday
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
944218
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Does this beat your rooks file? (24.5 moves)
And the Queens (21.5 moves)
The Bishops (23 moves)
NP pawns (35 moves)
YP pawns (33.5 moves)
Dark squared Bishops (26.5 moves) (with constraint added that Light squared Bishops can only be captured by a King)
answered yesterday
Arnaud MortierArnaud Mortier
944218
edited 18 hours ago
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answered yesterday
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Rooks-Yes, Bishops-Yes, Queens-No, becuase one of the Queens is captured BEFORE all other captures of non-queen pieces are completed.
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– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay Good spot! Edited, hopefully it's ok now. I've also added NP pawns. If I understand correctly, this NP-pawn variation is also valid as a YP-pawn?
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Yes, your queens game is now good. NP is also good. YP is the same as NP, but with pawn promotions allowed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay It's surprisingly not easy to do better with promotion than without (here 1.5 moves better).
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
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Hm. Yep. So true. And YP is looking good!
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
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Rooks-Yes, Bishops-Yes, Queens-No, becuase one of the Queens is captured BEFORE all other captures of non-queen pieces are completed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay Good spot! Edited, hopefully it's ok now. I've also added NP pawns. If I understand correctly, this NP-pawn variation is also valid as a YP-pawn?
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
$begingroup$
Yes, your queens game is now good. NP is also good. YP is the same as NP, but with pawn promotions allowed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
$begingroup$
@RewanDemontay It's surprisingly not easy to do better with promotion than without (here 1.5 moves better).
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
$begingroup$
Hm. Yep. So true. And YP is looking good!
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
$begingroup$
Rooks-Yes, Bishops-Yes, Queens-No, becuase one of the Queens is captured BEFORE all other captures of non-queen pieces are completed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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Rooks-Yes, Bishops-Yes, Queens-No, becuase one of the Queens is captured BEFORE all other captures of non-queen pieces are completed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
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@RewanDemontay Good spot! Edited, hopefully it's ok now. I've also added NP pawns. If I understand correctly, this NP-pawn variation is also valid as a YP-pawn?
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
$begingroup$
@RewanDemontay Good spot! Edited, hopefully it's ok now. I've also added NP pawns. If I understand correctly, this NP-pawn variation is also valid as a YP-pawn?
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
$begingroup$
Yes, your queens game is now good. NP is also good. YP is the same as NP, but with pawn promotions allowed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
$begingroup$
Yes, your queens game is now good. NP is also good. YP is the same as NP, but with pawn promotions allowed.
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
$begingroup$
@RewanDemontay It's surprisingly not easy to do better with promotion than without (here 1.5 moves better).
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
$begingroup$
@RewanDemontay It's surprisingly not easy to do better with promotion than without (here 1.5 moves better).
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
yesterday
$begingroup$
Hm. Yep. So true. And YP is looking good!
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
$begingroup$
Hm. Yep. So true. And YP is looking good!
$endgroup$
– Rewan Demontay
yesterday
|
show 3 more comments
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Regarding my edit: I wasn't 100% sure: Is it better to show the move-codes (as text) direclty as well? If so, I'd edit them back in.
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Oh no, your edit was extremely helpful. And just keep the links as they are after your edit.
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– Rewan Demontay
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