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I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.



Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)



For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.






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    I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
    But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.



    Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)



    For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.






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      I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
      But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.



      Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)



      For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.






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      I'm actually starting to get into DnD and I may be soon buy the DnD starter set. Mimic is a monster whose concept I love, and I would like to put at least one as soon as possible when I'll DM, even if I have to change some little things in the base scenario.
      But as I never DM'd or even played a DnD game, I don't have any idea on at what level can a party fight one of these monsters with a bit of a challenge but without risking everyone dies.



      Based on played games (as DM or player), when should I introduce my first mimic to give my party not too deadly challenge ? (not in term of scenario, but in level meaning)



      For more context, my party should be about 4/5 players who're medium used to RP but never played DnD before.






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          At level 2 (on average).



          From here,




          CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.




          Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.



          That being said, you can easily adapt this.




          • After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.


          • At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.







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            Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
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            – Zoma
            2 days ago






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            Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
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            2 days ago






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            @Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
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            – Erik
            2 days ago






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            $begingroup$
            @Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
            $endgroup$
            – Roger
            2 days ago






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            @Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
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            – Zoma
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          At level 2 (on average).



          From here,




          CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.




          Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.



          That being said, you can easily adapt this.




          • After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.


          • At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.







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          • $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago






          • 3




            $begingroup$
            Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
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            – SaggingRufus
            2 days ago






          • 1




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            @Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
            $endgroup$
            – Erik
            2 days ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
            $endgroup$
            – Roger
            2 days ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago
















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          $begingroup$

          At level 2 (on average).



          From here,




          CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.




          Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.



          That being said, you can easily adapt this.




          • After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.


          • At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.







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          • $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago






          • 3




            $begingroup$
            Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
            $endgroup$
            – SaggingRufus
            2 days ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
            $endgroup$
            – Erik
            2 days ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
            $endgroup$
            – Roger
            2 days ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago














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          At level 2 (on average).



          From here,




          CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.




          Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.



          That being said, you can easily adapt this.




          • After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.


          • At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.







          share|improve this answer









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          At level 2 (on average).



          From here,




          CR tells you the upper maximum difficulty of the monster, assuming a party of 4.




          Since the Mimic has CR2, it's a challenge for a level 2 party.



          That being said, you can easily adapt this.




          • After a boss fight, the level 3 party is low on resources, and finding a mimic instead of loot can be a challenge for them.


          • At level 1, a party that somehow realises the enemy is a mimic without being jumped by it (say, some NPC pointed it out, or some other motive gave that information), can also trivialise the encounter. The mimic has a lot of HP, but low damage and awful mobility. It can be easily kited from afar.








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          • $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago






          • 3




            $begingroup$
            Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
            $endgroup$
            – SaggingRufus
            2 days ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
            $endgroup$
            – Erik
            2 days ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
            $endgroup$
            – Roger
            2 days ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago


















          • $begingroup$
            Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago






          • 3




            $begingroup$
            Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
            $endgroup$
            – SaggingRufus
            2 days ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
            $endgroup$
            – Erik
            2 days ago






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
            $endgroup$
            – Roger
            2 days ago






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
            $endgroup$
            – Zoma
            2 days ago
















          $begingroup$
          Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
          $endgroup$
          – Zoma
          2 days ago




          $begingroup$
          Thanks a lot. I started but haven't finished to read the basic rules (as I don't plan to buy all 3 core books before being sure that I like DnD enough) and I didn't find this. Thanks also for examples about how to introduce it to other levels. But if it may be a challenge for a lv.3 party after a great fight (boss), does it can be still a challenge at higher levels ?
          $endgroup$
          – Zoma
          2 days ago




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          $begingroup$
          Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
          $endgroup$
          – SaggingRufus
          2 days ago




          $begingroup$
          Also remember that CR is not always the best way to calculate an encounter. I tend to base it on a combination of AC and number of actions per round. If the party will never beat the AC and don't have a lot of spells that to provoke saving throws, they will probably never hit it. Also is, if the enemy has way more actions than the party, they will be dealing a lot more damage than the party. CR is an ok base line, but don't use it as the be all end all.
          $endgroup$
          – SaggingRufus
          2 days ago




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          @Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
          $endgroup$
          – Erik
          2 days ago




          $begingroup$
          @Zoma a basic Mimic probably won't ever challenge a high level party, but there are similar monsters of higher power levels, or you can make your own. But it should be another question.
          $endgroup$
          – Erik
          2 days ago




          2




          2




          $begingroup$
          @Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
          $endgroup$
          – Roger
          2 days ago




          $begingroup$
          @Zoma I feel compelled to mention that you can legally download the Basic version of the 5e rules from the Wizards site and they will probably give you a pretty good idea of how much you like it.
          $endgroup$
          – Roger
          2 days ago




          1




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          $begingroup$
          @Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
          $endgroup$
          – Zoma
          2 days ago




          $begingroup$
          @Erik as suggested I created a new question. If anyone's interested into having a higher level mimic, here's the link
          $endgroup$
          – Zoma
          2 days ago


















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