What is a clear way to write a bar that has an extra beat?












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If I have a simple 4/4 piece and at some point, for some reason, I delay the rhythm by 1 beat. How do I notate that particular irregularity on the staff?



I think having a bar with 5/4 without writing any extra notation would be really hard to read.



An example can be found in "Love Of My Life" by Queen. In this video it happens at 0:54.
If you count the whole verse 1, the piano part at 0:54 will sound off-beat and the verse 2 will start on beat 2 instead of 1.










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    If I have a simple 4/4 piece and at some point, for some reason, I delay the rhythm by 1 beat. How do I notate that particular irregularity on the staff?



    I think having a bar with 5/4 without writing any extra notation would be really hard to read.



    An example can be found in "Love Of My Life" by Queen. In this video it happens at 0:54.
    If you count the whole verse 1, the piano part at 0:54 will sound off-beat and the verse 2 will start on beat 2 instead of 1.










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      If I have a simple 4/4 piece and at some point, for some reason, I delay the rhythm by 1 beat. How do I notate that particular irregularity on the staff?



      I think having a bar with 5/4 without writing any extra notation would be really hard to read.



      An example can be found in "Love Of My Life" by Queen. In this video it happens at 0:54.
      If you count the whole verse 1, the piano part at 0:54 will sound off-beat and the verse 2 will start on beat 2 instead of 1.










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      If I have a simple 4/4 piece and at some point, for some reason, I delay the rhythm by 1 beat. How do I notate that particular irregularity on the staff?



      I think having a bar with 5/4 without writing any extra notation would be really hard to read.



      An example can be found in "Love Of My Life" by Queen. In this video it happens at 0:54.
      If you count the whole verse 1, the piano part at 0:54 will sound off-beat and the verse 2 will start on beat 2 instead of 1.







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          If the music changes time signature, just write the new time signature:



          enter image description here



          You could also write a fermata over the beat in question and put a half-note above it to clarify the desired length, but this only makes sense if the extra beat can be understood as a pause.






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          • In the Quenn example, the instrumental filling at 0:54 sounds like a 4/4 started on beat 2 of the voice, and the voice than starts on beat 1 of the instrumental, so you have one extra beat somewhere.. where?

            – Xandru
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          • MuseScore notation for the Queen song is found by Google. There's a bar in 3/4 at the point you mention. I tried to answer the question generally, as specific transcription questions tend to be closed.

            – replete
            6 hours ago





















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          You could also have a pickup measure at the start of your piece if that extra beat happens to be the first beat of your song. They look like: this



          Note also that if you do this, convention dictates that the last measure of the piece be shorter by the amount you added to the beginning (but recently, this convention's been on the decline in modern music).






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          • I think the convention that you shorten the last bar by the length of the anacrusis is not followed so often in modern music.

            – Dekkadeci
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          • @Dekkadeci You're right. I just didn't think it was worth a mention, but I'll change it.

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          If the music changes time signature, just write the new time signature:



          enter image description here



          You could also write a fermata over the beat in question and put a half-note above it to clarify the desired length, but this only makes sense if the extra beat can be understood as a pause.






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          • In the Quenn example, the instrumental filling at 0:54 sounds like a 4/4 started on beat 2 of the voice, and the voice than starts on beat 1 of the instrumental, so you have one extra beat somewhere.. where?

            – Xandru
            6 hours ago













          • MuseScore notation for the Queen song is found by Google. There's a bar in 3/4 at the point you mention. I tried to answer the question generally, as specific transcription questions tend to be closed.

            – replete
            6 hours ago


















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          If the music changes time signature, just write the new time signature:



          enter image description here



          You could also write a fermata over the beat in question and put a half-note above it to clarify the desired length, but this only makes sense if the extra beat can be understood as a pause.






          share|improve this answer
























          • In the Quenn example, the instrumental filling at 0:54 sounds like a 4/4 started on beat 2 of the voice, and the voice than starts on beat 1 of the instrumental, so you have one extra beat somewhere.. where?

            – Xandru
            6 hours ago













          • MuseScore notation for the Queen song is found by Google. There's a bar in 3/4 at the point you mention. I tried to answer the question generally, as specific transcription questions tend to be closed.

            – replete
            6 hours ago
















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          If the music changes time signature, just write the new time signature:



          enter image description here



          You could also write a fermata over the beat in question and put a half-note above it to clarify the desired length, but this only makes sense if the extra beat can be understood as a pause.






          share|improve this answer













          If the music changes time signature, just write the new time signature:



          enter image description here



          You could also write a fermata over the beat in question and put a half-note above it to clarify the desired length, but this only makes sense if the extra beat can be understood as a pause.







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          • In the Quenn example, the instrumental filling at 0:54 sounds like a 4/4 started on beat 2 of the voice, and the voice than starts on beat 1 of the instrumental, so you have one extra beat somewhere.. where?

            – Xandru
            6 hours ago













          • MuseScore notation for the Queen song is found by Google. There's a bar in 3/4 at the point you mention. I tried to answer the question generally, as specific transcription questions tend to be closed.

            – replete
            6 hours ago





















          • In the Quenn example, the instrumental filling at 0:54 sounds like a 4/4 started on beat 2 of the voice, and the voice than starts on beat 1 of the instrumental, so you have one extra beat somewhere.. where?

            – Xandru
            6 hours ago













          • MuseScore notation for the Queen song is found by Google. There's a bar in 3/4 at the point you mention. I tried to answer the question generally, as specific transcription questions tend to be closed.

            – replete
            6 hours ago



















          In the Quenn example, the instrumental filling at 0:54 sounds like a 4/4 started on beat 2 of the voice, and the voice than starts on beat 1 of the instrumental, so you have one extra beat somewhere.. where?

          – Xandru
          6 hours ago







          In the Quenn example, the instrumental filling at 0:54 sounds like a 4/4 started on beat 2 of the voice, and the voice than starts on beat 1 of the instrumental, so you have one extra beat somewhere.. where?

          – Xandru
          6 hours ago















          MuseScore notation for the Queen song is found by Google. There's a bar in 3/4 at the point you mention. I tried to answer the question generally, as specific transcription questions tend to be closed.

          – replete
          6 hours ago







          MuseScore notation for the Queen song is found by Google. There's a bar in 3/4 at the point you mention. I tried to answer the question generally, as specific transcription questions tend to be closed.

          – replete
          6 hours ago













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          You could also have a pickup measure at the start of your piece if that extra beat happens to be the first beat of your song. They look like: this



          Note also that if you do this, convention dictates that the last measure of the piece be shorter by the amount you added to the beginning (but recently, this convention's been on the decline in modern music).






          share|improve this answer


























          • I think the convention that you shorten the last bar by the length of the anacrusis is not followed so often in modern music.

            – Dekkadeci
            50 mins ago











          • @Dekkadeci You're right. I just didn't think it was worth a mention, but I'll change it.

            – user45266
            34 mins ago
















          2














          You could also have a pickup measure at the start of your piece if that extra beat happens to be the first beat of your song. They look like: this



          Note also that if you do this, convention dictates that the last measure of the piece be shorter by the amount you added to the beginning (but recently, this convention's been on the decline in modern music).






          share|improve this answer


























          • I think the convention that you shorten the last bar by the length of the anacrusis is not followed so often in modern music.

            – Dekkadeci
            50 mins ago











          • @Dekkadeci You're right. I just didn't think it was worth a mention, but I'll change it.

            – user45266
            34 mins ago














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          You could also have a pickup measure at the start of your piece if that extra beat happens to be the first beat of your song. They look like: this



          Note also that if you do this, convention dictates that the last measure of the piece be shorter by the amount you added to the beginning (but recently, this convention's been on the decline in modern music).






          share|improve this answer















          You could also have a pickup measure at the start of your piece if that extra beat happens to be the first beat of your song. They look like: this



          Note also that if you do this, convention dictates that the last measure of the piece be shorter by the amount you added to the beginning (but recently, this convention's been on the decline in modern music).







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          • I think the convention that you shorten the last bar by the length of the anacrusis is not followed so often in modern music.

            – Dekkadeci
            50 mins ago











          • @Dekkadeci You're right. I just didn't think it was worth a mention, but I'll change it.

            – user45266
            34 mins ago



















          • I think the convention that you shorten the last bar by the length of the anacrusis is not followed so often in modern music.

            – Dekkadeci
            50 mins ago











          • @Dekkadeci You're right. I just didn't think it was worth a mention, but I'll change it.

            – user45266
            34 mins ago

















          I think the convention that you shorten the last bar by the length of the anacrusis is not followed so often in modern music.

          – Dekkadeci
          50 mins ago





          I think the convention that you shorten the last bar by the length of the anacrusis is not followed so often in modern music.

          – Dekkadeci
          50 mins ago













          @Dekkadeci You're right. I just didn't think it was worth a mention, but I'll change it.

          – user45266
          34 mins ago





          @Dekkadeci You're right. I just didn't think it was worth a mention, but I'll change it.

          – user45266
          34 mins ago


















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