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We have a board whose size is $ N times N $. Let $ D $ be the taxicab distance between two squares on the board i.e. the distance a rook from chess would take to move. What is the floor of the average value of $ D $? What if instead we use the Chebyshev distance i.e. the distance a king would take to move?




I have no idea how to start even, or where I should search for a clue. (besides brute-force of course). I tried already with randomly picking two points $ N^2 $ times, but the approximation is too big.










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put on hold as off-topic by Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio 3 hours ago


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  • "This question is off-topic as it appears to be a mathematics problem, as opposed to a mathematical puzzle. For more info, see "Are math-textbook-style problems on topic?" on meta." – Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio

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    Is this a question that comes from somewhere else, or one you've made up?
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    Isn't Manhattan distance the minimum number of moves for (not a rook, but) a piece that moves like a rook but only one square at a time? Or, equivalently, like a king but not diagonally.
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    – Gareth McCaughan
    5 hours ago






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    Hi @Pitcher_21, welcome to Puzzling SE! Like Gareth commented, this appears to be a problem you got from some other source other than yourself. If it is, can you include the source in your question? Thanks!
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    – PiIsNot3
    5 hours ago






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    Note that taxicab distance is simply the sum of the distances on each dimension, so you can treat each independently. In fact, you can double the value you get from simply considering the one dimensional case. That should make this problem trivial IMO.
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    – Don Thousand
    4 hours ago






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    This post from MSE applies here. If your lecturer gave you this question, (s)he must think that you should be able to gain something by trying it yourself. Having other people do it for you will gain you nothing at all.
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    – Arnaud Mortier
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We have a board whose size is $ N times N $. Let $ D $ be the taxicab distance between two squares on the board i.e. the distance a rook from chess would take to move. What is the floor of the average value of $ D $? What if instead we use the Chebyshev distance i.e. the distance a king would take to move?




I have no idea how to start even, or where I should search for a clue. (besides brute-force of course). I tried already with randomly picking two points $ N^2 $ times, but the approximation is too big.










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put on hold as off-topic by Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio 3 hours ago


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "This question is off-topic as it appears to be a mathematics problem, as opposed to a mathematical puzzle. For more info, see "Are math-textbook-style problems on topic?" on meta." – Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.












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    $begingroup$
    Is this a question that comes from somewhere else, or one you've made up?
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Isn't Manhattan distance the minimum number of moves for (not a rook, but) a piece that moves like a rook but only one square at a time? Or, equivalently, like a king but not diagonally.
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    5 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    Hi @Pitcher_21, welcome to Puzzling SE! Like Gareth commented, this appears to be a problem you got from some other source other than yourself. If it is, can you include the source in your question? Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – PiIsNot3
    5 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    Note that taxicab distance is simply the sum of the distances on each dimension, so you can treat each independently. In fact, you can double the value you get from simply considering the one dimensional case. That should make this problem trivial IMO.
    $endgroup$
    – Don Thousand
    4 hours ago






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    $begingroup$
    This post from MSE applies here. If your lecturer gave you this question, (s)he must think that you should be able to gain something by trying it yourself. Having other people do it for you will gain you nothing at all.
    $endgroup$
    – Arnaud Mortier
    2 hours ago














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We have a board whose size is $ N times N $. Let $ D $ be the taxicab distance between two squares on the board i.e. the distance a rook from chess would take to move. What is the floor of the average value of $ D $? What if instead we use the Chebyshev distance i.e. the distance a king would take to move?




I have no idea how to start even, or where I should search for a clue. (besides brute-force of course). I tried already with randomly picking two points $ N^2 $ times, but the approximation is too big.










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We have a board whose size is $ N times N $. Let $ D $ be the taxicab distance between two squares on the board i.e. the distance a rook from chess would take to move. What is the floor of the average value of $ D $? What if instead we use the Chebyshev distance i.e. the distance a king would take to move?




I have no idea how to start even, or where I should search for a clue. (besides brute-force of course). I tried already with randomly picking two points $ N^2 $ times, but the approximation is too big.







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put on hold as off-topic by Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio 3 hours ago


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "This question is off-topic as it appears to be a mathematics problem, as opposed to a mathematical puzzle. For more info, see "Are math-textbook-style problems on topic?" on meta." – Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.







put on hold as off-topic by Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio 3 hours ago


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "This question is off-topic as it appears to be a mathematics problem, as opposed to a mathematical puzzle. For more info, see "Are math-textbook-style problems on topic?" on meta." – Glorfindel, noedne, Brandon_J, Rubio

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Is this a question that comes from somewhere else, or one you've made up?
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Isn't Manhattan distance the minimum number of moves for (not a rook, but) a piece that moves like a rook but only one square at a time? Or, equivalently, like a king but not diagonally.
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    5 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Hi @Pitcher_21, welcome to Puzzling SE! Like Gareth commented, this appears to be a problem you got from some other source other than yourself. If it is, can you include the source in your question? Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – PiIsNot3
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note that taxicab distance is simply the sum of the distances on each dimension, so you can treat each independently. In fact, you can double the value you get from simply considering the one dimensional case. That should make this problem trivial IMO.
    $endgroup$
    – Don Thousand
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This post from MSE applies here. If your lecturer gave you this question, (s)he must think that you should be able to gain something by trying it yourself. Having other people do it for you will gain you nothing at all.
    $endgroup$
    – Arnaud Mortier
    2 hours ago














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Is this a question that comes from somewhere else, or one you've made up?
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    5 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Isn't Manhattan distance the minimum number of moves for (not a rook, but) a piece that moves like a rook but only one square at a time? Or, equivalently, like a king but not diagonally.
    $endgroup$
    – Gareth McCaughan
    5 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Hi @Pitcher_21, welcome to Puzzling SE! Like Gareth commented, this appears to be a problem you got from some other source other than yourself. If it is, can you include the source in your question? Thanks!
    $endgroup$
    – PiIsNot3
    5 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Note that taxicab distance is simply the sum of the distances on each dimension, so you can treat each independently. In fact, you can double the value you get from simply considering the one dimensional case. That should make this problem trivial IMO.
    $endgroup$
    – Don Thousand
    4 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This post from MSE applies here. If your lecturer gave you this question, (s)he must think that you should be able to gain something by trying it yourself. Having other people do it for you will gain you nothing at all.
    $endgroup$
    – Arnaud Mortier
    2 hours ago








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$begingroup$
Is this a question that comes from somewhere else, or one you've made up?
$endgroup$
– Gareth McCaughan
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
Is this a question that comes from somewhere else, or one you've made up?
$endgroup$
– Gareth McCaughan
5 hours ago












$begingroup$
Isn't Manhattan distance the minimum number of moves for (not a rook, but) a piece that moves like a rook but only one square at a time? Or, equivalently, like a king but not diagonally.
$endgroup$
– Gareth McCaughan
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
Isn't Manhattan distance the minimum number of moves for (not a rook, but) a piece that moves like a rook but only one square at a time? Or, equivalently, like a king but not diagonally.
$endgroup$
– Gareth McCaughan
5 hours ago




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3




$begingroup$
Hi @Pitcher_21, welcome to Puzzling SE! Like Gareth commented, this appears to be a problem you got from some other source other than yourself. If it is, can you include the source in your question? Thanks!
$endgroup$
– PiIsNot3
5 hours ago




$begingroup$
Hi @Pitcher_21, welcome to Puzzling SE! Like Gareth commented, this appears to be a problem you got from some other source other than yourself. If it is, can you include the source in your question? Thanks!
$endgroup$
– PiIsNot3
5 hours ago




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1




$begingroup$
Note that taxicab distance is simply the sum of the distances on each dimension, so you can treat each independently. In fact, you can double the value you get from simply considering the one dimensional case. That should make this problem trivial IMO.
$endgroup$
– Don Thousand
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
Note that taxicab distance is simply the sum of the distances on each dimension, so you can treat each independently. In fact, you can double the value you get from simply considering the one dimensional case. That should make this problem trivial IMO.
$endgroup$
– Don Thousand
4 hours ago




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$begingroup$
This post from MSE applies here. If your lecturer gave you this question, (s)he must think that you should be able to gain something by trying it yourself. Having other people do it for you will gain you nothing at all.
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 hours ago




$begingroup$
This post from MSE applies here. If your lecturer gave you this question, (s)he must think that you should be able to gain something by trying it yourself. Having other people do it for you will gain you nothing at all.
$endgroup$
– Arnaud Mortier
2 hours ago










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