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When I write text messages on my mobile phone I just need to press each key
once for each letter and it automatically finds the most likely word that
fits the combination (abc=2, def=3, ghi=4, jkl=5, mno=6, pqrs=7, tuv=8,
wxyz=9). So if I press 84373 it displays "there", although the word could
as well be "these".



What is the longest pair of English words that have the same number combination, while having no common letter in the same position?



Note: The words must occur in the Merriam Webster dictionary; only uncapitalized words; no hyphens.










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    Can you define "common letter"?
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    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 15 '15 at 18:23






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    "brushed" and "astride" seem good, but I have no idea if they're optimal.
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    – Apple
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    Seems like programmers will defeat puzzlers again :(
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    – ghosts_in_the_code
    Mar 16 '15 at 10:18










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    @Gamow You're right about "open-ended", sorry! I was thinking this was much like the other "open-ended" puzzles involving "find the longest dictionary word such that...", but this one is different because it specifies a (searchable) dictionary.
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    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 16 '15 at 16:16
















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$begingroup$


When I write text messages on my mobile phone I just need to press each key
once for each letter and it automatically finds the most likely word that
fits the combination (abc=2, def=3, ghi=4, jkl=5, mno=6, pqrs=7, tuv=8,
wxyz=9). So if I press 84373 it displays "there", although the word could
as well be "these".



What is the longest pair of English words that have the same number combination, while having no common letter in the same position?



Note: The words must occur in the Merriam Webster dictionary; only uncapitalized words; no hyphens.










share|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    Can you define "common letter"?
    $endgroup$
    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 15 '15 at 18:23






  • 5




    $begingroup$
    "brushed" and "astride" seem good, but I have no idea if they're optimal.
    $endgroup$
    – Apple
    Mar 15 '15 at 19:50










  • $begingroup$
    Seems like programmers will defeat puzzlers again :(
    $endgroup$
    – ghosts_in_the_code
    Mar 16 '15 at 10:18










  • $begingroup$
    @Gamow You're right about "open-ended", sorry! I was thinking this was much like the other "open-ended" puzzles involving "find the longest dictionary word such that...", but this one is different because it specifies a (searchable) dictionary.
    $endgroup$
    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 16 '15 at 16:16














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$begingroup$


When I write text messages on my mobile phone I just need to press each key
once for each letter and it automatically finds the most likely word that
fits the combination (abc=2, def=3, ghi=4, jkl=5, mno=6, pqrs=7, tuv=8,
wxyz=9). So if I press 84373 it displays "there", although the word could
as well be "these".



What is the longest pair of English words that have the same number combination, while having no common letter in the same position?



Note: The words must occur in the Merriam Webster dictionary; only uncapitalized words; no hyphens.










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




When I write text messages on my mobile phone I just need to press each key
once for each letter and it automatically finds the most likely word that
fits the combination (abc=2, def=3, ghi=4, jkl=5, mno=6, pqrs=7, tuv=8,
wxyz=9). So if I press 84373 it displays "there", although the word could
as well be "these".



What is the longest pair of English words that have the same number combination, while having no common letter in the same position?



Note: The words must occur in the Merriam Webster dictionary; only uncapitalized words; no hyphens.







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edited Mar 16 '15 at 12:37









Gamow

34k10123365




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HaobinHaobin

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  • $begingroup$
    Can you define "common letter"?
    $endgroup$
    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 15 '15 at 18:23






  • 5




    $begingroup$
    "brushed" and "astride" seem good, but I have no idea if they're optimal.
    $endgroup$
    – Apple
    Mar 15 '15 at 19:50










  • $begingroup$
    Seems like programmers will defeat puzzlers again :(
    $endgroup$
    – ghosts_in_the_code
    Mar 16 '15 at 10:18










  • $begingroup$
    @Gamow You're right about "open-ended", sorry! I was thinking this was much like the other "open-ended" puzzles involving "find the longest dictionary word such that...", but this one is different because it specifies a (searchable) dictionary.
    $endgroup$
    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 16 '15 at 16:16


















  • $begingroup$
    Can you define "common letter"?
    $endgroup$
    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 15 '15 at 18:23






  • 5




    $begingroup$
    "brushed" and "astride" seem good, but I have no idea if they're optimal.
    $endgroup$
    – Apple
    Mar 15 '15 at 19:50










  • $begingroup$
    Seems like programmers will defeat puzzlers again :(
    $endgroup$
    – ghosts_in_the_code
    Mar 16 '15 at 10:18










  • $begingroup$
    @Gamow You're right about "open-ended", sorry! I was thinking this was much like the other "open-ended" puzzles involving "find the longest dictionary word such that...", but this one is different because it specifies a (searchable) dictionary.
    $endgroup$
    – Rand al'Thor
    Mar 16 '15 at 16:16
















$begingroup$
Can you define "common letter"?
$endgroup$
– Rand al'Thor
Mar 15 '15 at 18:23




$begingroup$
Can you define "common letter"?
$endgroup$
– Rand al'Thor
Mar 15 '15 at 18:23




5




5




$begingroup$
"brushed" and "astride" seem good, but I have no idea if they're optimal.
$endgroup$
– Apple
Mar 15 '15 at 19:50




$begingroup$
"brushed" and "astride" seem good, but I have no idea if they're optimal.
$endgroup$
– Apple
Mar 15 '15 at 19:50












$begingroup$
Seems like programmers will defeat puzzlers again :(
$endgroup$
– ghosts_in_the_code
Mar 16 '15 at 10:18




$begingroup$
Seems like programmers will defeat puzzlers again :(
$endgroup$
– ghosts_in_the_code
Mar 16 '15 at 10:18












$begingroup$
@Gamow You're right about "open-ended", sorry! I was thinking this was much like the other "open-ended" puzzles involving "find the longest dictionary word such that...", but this one is different because it specifies a (searchable) dictionary.
$endgroup$
– Rand al'Thor
Mar 16 '15 at 16:16




$begingroup$
@Gamow You're right about "open-ended", sorry! I was thinking this was much like the other "open-ended" puzzles involving "find the longest dictionary word such that...", but this one is different because it specifies a (searchable) dictionary.
$endgroup$
– Rand al'Thor
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278-7433: astride and brushed

266-8687: amounts and contour

468-2337: hotbeds and invader




These seem to be the longest pairs that don't share a letter in the same place.
If you allow letters in the same place, there is a 10-letter pair, including area code:




(732)773-7833: rearrested and reasserted.




These seem to be the longest pairs, and it's a coincidence it's the same length as a phone number.






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    The answer is:




    8. Two pairs achieve this length: jingling and khoikhoi translated as 54645464, as well as acacetin and cacafugo translated as 22223846




    Why?




    Brute-forced on a dictionary.







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      But "Khoikhoi" is capitalized.
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      – Alexis
      Mar 16 '15 at 15:51










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      @Martin So? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the problem statement...
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      the stetement reads "only uncapitalized words"
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      – Alexis
      Mar 18 '15 at 16:39










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      @Martin I did not notice that. Either way, the other pair is correct, so I see no reason for downvotes.
      $endgroup$
      – dmg
      Mar 19 '15 at 8:26










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      "cacafugo" is not in Merriam Webster, but "cacafuego" is.
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      – Alexis
      Mar 19 '15 at 15:43












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    278-7433: astride and brushed

    266-8687: amounts and contour

    468-2337: hotbeds and invader




    These seem to be the longest pairs that don't share a letter in the same place.
    If you allow letters in the same place, there is a 10-letter pair, including area code:




    (732)773-7833: rearrested and reasserted.




    These seem to be the longest pairs, and it's a coincidence it's the same length as a phone number.






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      278-7433: astride and brushed

      266-8687: amounts and contour

      468-2337: hotbeds and invader




      These seem to be the longest pairs that don't share a letter in the same place.
      If you allow letters in the same place, there is a 10-letter pair, including area code:




      (732)773-7833: rearrested and reasserted.




      These seem to be the longest pairs, and it's a coincidence it's the same length as a phone number.






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        278-7433: astride and brushed

        266-8687: amounts and contour

        468-2337: hotbeds and invader




        These seem to be the longest pairs that don't share a letter in the same place.
        If you allow letters in the same place, there is a 10-letter pair, including area code:




        (732)773-7833: rearrested and reasserted.




        These seem to be the longest pairs, and it's a coincidence it's the same length as a phone number.






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        278-7433: astride and brushed

        266-8687: amounts and contour

        468-2337: hotbeds and invader




        These seem to be the longest pairs that don't share a letter in the same place.
        If you allow letters in the same place, there is a 10-letter pair, including area code:




        (732)773-7833: rearrested and reasserted.




        These seem to be the longest pairs, and it's a coincidence it's the same length as a phone number.







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            The answer is:




            8. Two pairs achieve this length: jingling and khoikhoi translated as 54645464, as well as acacetin and cacafugo translated as 22223846




            Why?




            Brute-forced on a dictionary.







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            • $begingroup$
              But "Khoikhoi" is capitalized.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 16 '15 at 15:51










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin So? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the problem statement...
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
              Mar 16 '15 at 16:14










            • $begingroup$
              the stetement reads "only uncapitalized words"
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 18 '15 at 16:39










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin I did not notice that. Either way, the other pair is correct, so I see no reason for downvotes.
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
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            • $begingroup$
              "cacafugo" is not in Merriam Webster, but "cacafuego" is.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 19 '15 at 15:43
















            3












            $begingroup$

            The answer is:




            8. Two pairs achieve this length: jingling and khoikhoi translated as 54645464, as well as acacetin and cacafugo translated as 22223846




            Why?




            Brute-forced on a dictionary.







            share|improve this answer











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            • $begingroup$
              But "Khoikhoi" is capitalized.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 16 '15 at 15:51










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin So? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the problem statement...
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
              Mar 16 '15 at 16:14










            • $begingroup$
              the stetement reads "only uncapitalized words"
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 18 '15 at 16:39










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin I did not notice that. Either way, the other pair is correct, so I see no reason for downvotes.
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
              Mar 19 '15 at 8:26










            • $begingroup$
              "cacafugo" is not in Merriam Webster, but "cacafuego" is.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 19 '15 at 15:43














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            3





            $begingroup$

            The answer is:




            8. Two pairs achieve this length: jingling and khoikhoi translated as 54645464, as well as acacetin and cacafugo translated as 22223846




            Why?




            Brute-forced on a dictionary.







            share|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            The answer is:




            8. Two pairs achieve this length: jingling and khoikhoi translated as 54645464, as well as acacetin and cacafugo translated as 22223846




            Why?




            Brute-forced on a dictionary.








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            answered Mar 16 '15 at 10:57









            dmgdmg

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            • $begingroup$
              But "Khoikhoi" is capitalized.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 16 '15 at 15:51










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin So? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the problem statement...
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
              Mar 16 '15 at 16:14










            • $begingroup$
              the stetement reads "only uncapitalized words"
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 18 '15 at 16:39










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin I did not notice that. Either way, the other pair is correct, so I see no reason for downvotes.
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
              Mar 19 '15 at 8:26










            • $begingroup$
              "cacafugo" is not in Merriam Webster, but "cacafuego" is.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 19 '15 at 15:43


















            • $begingroup$
              But "Khoikhoi" is capitalized.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 16 '15 at 15:51










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin So? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the problem statement...
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
              Mar 16 '15 at 16:14










            • $begingroup$
              the stetement reads "only uncapitalized words"
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 18 '15 at 16:39










            • $begingroup$
              @Martin I did not notice that. Either way, the other pair is correct, so I see no reason for downvotes.
              $endgroup$
              – dmg
              Mar 19 '15 at 8:26










            • $begingroup$
              "cacafugo" is not in Merriam Webster, but "cacafuego" is.
              $endgroup$
              – Alexis
              Mar 19 '15 at 15:43
















            $begingroup$
            But "Khoikhoi" is capitalized.
            $endgroup$
            – Alexis
            Mar 16 '15 at 15:51




            $begingroup$
            But "Khoikhoi" is capitalized.
            $endgroup$
            – Alexis
            Mar 16 '15 at 15:51












            $begingroup$
            @Martin So? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the problem statement...
            $endgroup$
            – dmg
            Mar 16 '15 at 16:14




            $begingroup$
            @Martin So? I don't see this mentioned anywhere in the problem statement...
            $endgroup$
            – dmg
            Mar 16 '15 at 16:14












            $begingroup$
            the stetement reads "only uncapitalized words"
            $endgroup$
            – Alexis
            Mar 18 '15 at 16:39




            $begingroup$
            the stetement reads "only uncapitalized words"
            $endgroup$
            – Alexis
            Mar 18 '15 at 16:39












            $begingroup$
            @Martin I did not notice that. Either way, the other pair is correct, so I see no reason for downvotes.
            $endgroup$
            – dmg
            Mar 19 '15 at 8:26




            $begingroup$
            @Martin I did not notice that. Either way, the other pair is correct, so I see no reason for downvotes.
            $endgroup$
            – dmg
            Mar 19 '15 at 8:26












            $begingroup$
            "cacafugo" is not in Merriam Webster, but "cacafuego" is.
            $endgroup$
            – Alexis
            Mar 19 '15 at 15:43




            $begingroup$
            "cacafugo" is not in Merriam Webster, but "cacafuego" is.
            $endgroup$
            – Alexis
            Mar 19 '15 at 15:43


















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