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In Shrek 2, King Harold intercepts a curse intended for the titular character so that it rebounds and hits the Fairy Godmother. She evaporates and it appears as though (at least some of) her former spells are reversed.



As a result of this King Harold becomes a frog. Does this mean that:




  • Harold was born a frog and the Fairy Godmother had previously made him human?

  • Jumping in front of the spell somehow turned Harold into a frog?

  • Harold was born a human, was turned into a frog, was "cured by The Fairy Godmother", which was then subsequently reversed with her downfall?


In short - what chain of events led to King Harold being turned into a frog?










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    I don’t understand the question... in the question you say he was born human and got turned into a frog by a witch, and then ask if he was born human. Aren’t you answering your own question?

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  • @Paul No they say he may have been born human, i.e. is my theory right?

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    If you don't mind I'm going to attempt a rephrase because I think I understand this and do believe it's a valid question

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In Shrek 2, King Harold intercepts a curse intended for the titular character so that it rebounds and hits the Fairy Godmother. She evaporates and it appears as though (at least some of) her former spells are reversed.



As a result of this King Harold becomes a frog. Does this mean that:




  • Harold was born a frog and the Fairy Godmother had previously made him human?

  • Jumping in front of the spell somehow turned Harold into a frog?

  • Harold was born a human, was turned into a frog, was "cured by The Fairy Godmother", which was then subsequently reversed with her downfall?


In short - what chain of events led to King Harold being turned into a frog?










share|improve this question




















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    I don’t understand the question... in the question you say he was born human and got turned into a frog by a witch, and then ask if he was born human. Aren’t you answering your own question?

    – Paul
    Jun 14 '18 at 13:50











  • @Paul No they say he may have been born human, i.e. is my theory right?

    – TheLethalCarrot
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:03






  • 8





    If you don't mind I'm going to attempt a rephrase because I think I understand this and do believe it's a valid question

    – Liath
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:31






  • 1





    Done - please do feel free to roll back

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    Jun 14 '18 at 15:36














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In Shrek 2, King Harold intercepts a curse intended for the titular character so that it rebounds and hits the Fairy Godmother. She evaporates and it appears as though (at least some of) her former spells are reversed.



As a result of this King Harold becomes a frog. Does this mean that:




  • Harold was born a frog and the Fairy Godmother had previously made him human?

  • Jumping in front of the spell somehow turned Harold into a frog?

  • Harold was born a human, was turned into a frog, was "cured by The Fairy Godmother", which was then subsequently reversed with her downfall?


In short - what chain of events led to King Harold being turned into a frog?










share|improve this question
















In Shrek 2, King Harold intercepts a curse intended for the titular character so that it rebounds and hits the Fairy Godmother. She evaporates and it appears as though (at least some of) her former spells are reversed.



As a result of this King Harold becomes a frog. Does this mean that:




  • Harold was born a frog and the Fairy Godmother had previously made him human?

  • Jumping in front of the spell somehow turned Harold into a frog?

  • Harold was born a human, was turned into a frog, was "cured by The Fairy Godmother", which was then subsequently reversed with her downfall?


In short - what chain of events led to King Harold being turned into a frog?







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    I don’t understand the question... in the question you say he was born human and got turned into a frog by a witch, and then ask if he was born human. Aren’t you answering your own question?

    – Paul
    Jun 14 '18 at 13:50











  • @Paul No they say he may have been born human, i.e. is my theory right?

    – TheLethalCarrot
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:03






  • 8





    If you don't mind I'm going to attempt a rephrase because I think I understand this and do believe it's a valid question

    – Liath
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:31






  • 1





    Done - please do feel free to roll back

    – Liath
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:36














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    – F1Krazy
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    I don’t understand the question... in the question you say he was born human and got turned into a frog by a witch, and then ask if he was born human. Aren’t you answering your own question?

    – Paul
    Jun 14 '18 at 13:50











  • @Paul No they say he may have been born human, i.e. is my theory right?

    – TheLethalCarrot
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:03






  • 8





    If you don't mind I'm going to attempt a rephrase because I think I understand this and do believe it's a valid question

    – Liath
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:31






  • 1





    Done - please do feel free to roll back

    – Liath
    Jun 14 '18 at 15:36








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I don’t understand the question... in the question you say he was born human and got turned into a frog by a witch, and then ask if he was born human. Aren’t you answering your own question?

– Paul
Jun 14 '18 at 13:50





I don’t understand the question... in the question you say he was born human and got turned into a frog by a witch, and then ask if he was born human. Aren’t you answering your own question?

– Paul
Jun 14 '18 at 13:50













@Paul No they say he may have been born human, i.e. is my theory right?

– TheLethalCarrot
Jun 14 '18 at 15:03





@Paul No they say he may have been born human, i.e. is my theory right?

– TheLethalCarrot
Jun 14 '18 at 15:03




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If you don't mind I'm going to attempt a rephrase because I think I understand this and do believe it's a valid question

– Liath
Jun 14 '18 at 15:31





If you don't mind I'm going to attempt a rephrase because I think I understand this and do believe it's a valid question

– Liath
Jun 14 '18 at 15:31




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This answer provides a very good explanation. To summarise:




  • King Harold is The Frog Prince, he was born a frog

  • The Fairy Godmother gave him the Happily Ever After Potion so he could marry Lilian (Fiona's mother and the current queen)

  • In exchange the King would let Fairy Godmother's son (Prince Charming) marry Princess Fiona


He was born a frog and when TFG was defeated her magic was reversed and both Happily Ever After potion instances were discarded (both Shrek's and Harold's).






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  • Was the Frog Prince really born a frog? The versions of the story I am familiar with all have him be a human who was turned into a frog by an Evil Witch, whose spell was undone by the kiss of the princess. I saw Shrek many years ago, so I don't remember, is it shown that he was an actual frog in this version?

    – terdon
    Jun 15 '18 at 8:29






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    @MrLister not at all. That's what I'm asking. I don't remember if it is made clear in Shrek that the Frog Prince was originally a frog and neither this answer nor the cited one give any evidence for their claiming it. I assume it's somehow shown in the movie, but it would be nice to mention that, if so.

    – terdon
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    Well, I never thought my question would get THIS much attention.

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you forgot one potential option
maybe the fairy godmother was going to turn Shrek into a frog (she had aimed her magic stick on Shrek). then King Harold jumped in front of him in order to save him; and as the consequense he became what Shrek was supposed to be.






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    This answer provides a very good explanation. To summarise:




    • King Harold is The Frog Prince, he was born a frog

    • The Fairy Godmother gave him the Happily Ever After Potion so he could marry Lilian (Fiona's mother and the current queen)

    • In exchange the King would let Fairy Godmother's son (Prince Charming) marry Princess Fiona


    He was born a frog and when TFG was defeated her magic was reversed and both Happily Ever After potion instances were discarded (both Shrek's and Harold's).






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      I feel a little bad that this answer now has more votes than the one I copied the answer from. If you haven’t already please do vote for that one too!

      – Liath
      Jun 14 '18 at 19:15






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      Another related answer: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/94966/2344

      – Ben Voigt
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    • Was the Frog Prince really born a frog? The versions of the story I am familiar with all have him be a human who was turned into a frog by an Evil Witch, whose spell was undone by the kiss of the princess. I saw Shrek many years ago, so I don't remember, is it shown that he was an actual frog in this version?

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 8:29






    • 1





      @MrLister not at all. That's what I'm asking. I don't remember if it is made clear in Shrek that the Frog Prince was originally a frog and neither this answer nor the cited one give any evidence for their claiming it. I assume it's somehow shown in the movie, but it would be nice to mention that, if so.

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 10:18






    • 1





      Well, I never thought my question would get THIS much attention.

      – Alex Downs
      Jun 15 '18 at 19:40
















    41














    This answer provides a very good explanation. To summarise:




    • King Harold is The Frog Prince, he was born a frog

    • The Fairy Godmother gave him the Happily Ever After Potion so he could marry Lilian (Fiona's mother and the current queen)

    • In exchange the King would let Fairy Godmother's son (Prince Charming) marry Princess Fiona


    He was born a frog and when TFG was defeated her magic was reversed and both Happily Ever After potion instances were discarded (both Shrek's and Harold's).






    share|improve this answer



















    • 4





      I feel a little bad that this answer now has more votes than the one I copied the answer from. If you haven’t already please do vote for that one too!

      – Liath
      Jun 14 '18 at 19:15






    • 1





      Another related answer: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/94966/2344

      – Ben Voigt
      Jun 15 '18 at 3:41











    • Was the Frog Prince really born a frog? The versions of the story I am familiar with all have him be a human who was turned into a frog by an Evil Witch, whose spell was undone by the kiss of the princess. I saw Shrek many years ago, so I don't remember, is it shown that he was an actual frog in this version?

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 8:29






    • 1





      @MrLister not at all. That's what I'm asking. I don't remember if it is made clear in Shrek that the Frog Prince was originally a frog and neither this answer nor the cited one give any evidence for their claiming it. I assume it's somehow shown in the movie, but it would be nice to mention that, if so.

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 10:18






    • 1





      Well, I never thought my question would get THIS much attention.

      – Alex Downs
      Jun 15 '18 at 19:40














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    This answer provides a very good explanation. To summarise:




    • King Harold is The Frog Prince, he was born a frog

    • The Fairy Godmother gave him the Happily Ever After Potion so he could marry Lilian (Fiona's mother and the current queen)

    • In exchange the King would let Fairy Godmother's son (Prince Charming) marry Princess Fiona


    He was born a frog and when TFG was defeated her magic was reversed and both Happily Ever After potion instances were discarded (both Shrek's and Harold's).






    share|improve this answer













    This answer provides a very good explanation. To summarise:




    • King Harold is The Frog Prince, he was born a frog

    • The Fairy Godmother gave him the Happily Ever After Potion so he could marry Lilian (Fiona's mother and the current queen)

    • In exchange the King would let Fairy Godmother's son (Prince Charming) marry Princess Fiona


    He was born a frog and when TFG was defeated her magic was reversed and both Happily Ever After potion instances were discarded (both Shrek's and Harold's).







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      I feel a little bad that this answer now has more votes than the one I copied the answer from. If you haven’t already please do vote for that one too!

      – Liath
      Jun 14 '18 at 19:15






    • 1





      Another related answer: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/94966/2344

      – Ben Voigt
      Jun 15 '18 at 3:41











    • Was the Frog Prince really born a frog? The versions of the story I am familiar with all have him be a human who was turned into a frog by an Evil Witch, whose spell was undone by the kiss of the princess. I saw Shrek many years ago, so I don't remember, is it shown that he was an actual frog in this version?

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 8:29






    • 1





      @MrLister not at all. That's what I'm asking. I don't remember if it is made clear in Shrek that the Frog Prince was originally a frog and neither this answer nor the cited one give any evidence for their claiming it. I assume it's somehow shown in the movie, but it would be nice to mention that, if so.

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 10:18






    • 1





      Well, I never thought my question would get THIS much attention.

      – Alex Downs
      Jun 15 '18 at 19:40














    • 4





      I feel a little bad that this answer now has more votes than the one I copied the answer from. If you haven’t already please do vote for that one too!

      – Liath
      Jun 14 '18 at 19:15






    • 1





      Another related answer: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/94966/2344

      – Ben Voigt
      Jun 15 '18 at 3:41











    • Was the Frog Prince really born a frog? The versions of the story I am familiar with all have him be a human who was turned into a frog by an Evil Witch, whose spell was undone by the kiss of the princess. I saw Shrek many years ago, so I don't remember, is it shown that he was an actual frog in this version?

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 8:29






    • 1





      @MrLister not at all. That's what I'm asking. I don't remember if it is made clear in Shrek that the Frog Prince was originally a frog and neither this answer nor the cited one give any evidence for their claiming it. I assume it's somehow shown in the movie, but it would be nice to mention that, if so.

      – terdon
      Jun 15 '18 at 10:18






    • 1





      Well, I never thought my question would get THIS much attention.

      – Alex Downs
      Jun 15 '18 at 19:40








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    I feel a little bad that this answer now has more votes than the one I copied the answer from. If you haven’t already please do vote for that one too!

    – Liath
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    I feel a little bad that this answer now has more votes than the one I copied the answer from. If you haven’t already please do vote for that one too!

    – Liath
    Jun 14 '18 at 19:15




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    Another related answer: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/94966/2344

    – Ben Voigt
    Jun 15 '18 at 3:41





    Another related answer: scifi.stackexchange.com/a/94966/2344

    – Ben Voigt
    Jun 15 '18 at 3:41













    Was the Frog Prince really born a frog? The versions of the story I am familiar with all have him be a human who was turned into a frog by an Evil Witch, whose spell was undone by the kiss of the princess. I saw Shrek many years ago, so I don't remember, is it shown that he was an actual frog in this version?

    – terdon
    Jun 15 '18 at 8:29





    Was the Frog Prince really born a frog? The versions of the story I am familiar with all have him be a human who was turned into a frog by an Evil Witch, whose spell was undone by the kiss of the princess. I saw Shrek many years ago, so I don't remember, is it shown that he was an actual frog in this version?

    – terdon
    Jun 15 '18 at 8:29




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    1





    @MrLister not at all. That's what I'm asking. I don't remember if it is made clear in Shrek that the Frog Prince was originally a frog and neither this answer nor the cited one give any evidence for their claiming it. I assume it's somehow shown in the movie, but it would be nice to mention that, if so.

    – terdon
    Jun 15 '18 at 10:18





    @MrLister not at all. That's what I'm asking. I don't remember if it is made clear in Shrek that the Frog Prince was originally a frog and neither this answer nor the cited one give any evidence for their claiming it. I assume it's somehow shown in the movie, but it would be nice to mention that, if so.

    – terdon
    Jun 15 '18 at 10:18




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    Well, I never thought my question would get THIS much attention.

    – Alex Downs
    Jun 15 '18 at 19:40





    Well, I never thought my question would get THIS much attention.

    – Alex Downs
    Jun 15 '18 at 19:40













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    you forgot one potential option
    maybe the fairy godmother was going to turn Shrek into a frog (she had aimed her magic stick on Shrek). then King Harold jumped in front of him in order to save him; and as the consequense he became what Shrek was supposed to be.






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