Can lower-ranked personnel refuse promotions?
Commander Riker refused his own command (and, by extension, a promotion) a few times during TNG's run. Captain Picard rejected Admiral Quinn's attempt to have him promoted to admiral.
If a lowly ensign or lieutenant were to be promoted due to excellent service, could they reject the offer and stay where they are?
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Commander Riker refused his own command (and, by extension, a promotion) a few times during TNG's run. Captain Picard rejected Admiral Quinn's attempt to have him promoted to admiral.
If a lowly ensign or lieutenant were to be promoted due to excellent service, could they reject the offer and stay where they are?
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Why not? Seems fairly clear serving in Starfleet is effectively a hobby in the first place (the Federation being post-scarcity society with all basic needs provided for and all). Seems like you wouldn't want to hand additional responsibilities to someone who is not willing to accept them.
– ShadowRanger
yesterday
I don't think any modern (or future) military organisation would force a promotion on an unwilling person, that would be disastrous for morale and the command structure. The exception being field promotion, where a junior must take command when a senior officer is killed or incapacitated. As a side note my grandfather was promoted from corporal to sergeant in the British Army several times and turned it down each time as he didn't want the added responsibility.
– Nathan Griffiths
yesterday
Not only can you, but unlike contemporary militaries, you can essentially resign at any time.
– Brian Ortiz
5 hours ago
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Commander Riker refused his own command (and, by extension, a promotion) a few times during TNG's run. Captain Picard rejected Admiral Quinn's attempt to have him promoted to admiral.
If a lowly ensign or lieutenant were to be promoted due to excellent service, could they reject the offer and stay where they are?
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Commander Riker refused his own command (and, by extension, a promotion) a few times during TNG's run. Captain Picard rejected Admiral Quinn's attempt to have him promoted to admiral.
If a lowly ensign or lieutenant were to be promoted due to excellent service, could they reject the offer and stay where they are?
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Why not? Seems fairly clear serving in Starfleet is effectively a hobby in the first place (the Federation being post-scarcity society with all basic needs provided for and all). Seems like you wouldn't want to hand additional responsibilities to someone who is not willing to accept them.
– ShadowRanger
yesterday
I don't think any modern (or future) military organisation would force a promotion on an unwilling person, that would be disastrous for morale and the command structure. The exception being field promotion, where a junior must take command when a senior officer is killed or incapacitated. As a side note my grandfather was promoted from corporal to sergeant in the British Army several times and turned it down each time as he didn't want the added responsibility.
– Nathan Griffiths
yesterday
Not only can you, but unlike contemporary militaries, you can essentially resign at any time.
– Brian Ortiz
5 hours ago
add a comment |
3
Why not? Seems fairly clear serving in Starfleet is effectively a hobby in the first place (the Federation being post-scarcity society with all basic needs provided for and all). Seems like you wouldn't want to hand additional responsibilities to someone who is not willing to accept them.
– ShadowRanger
yesterday
I don't think any modern (or future) military organisation would force a promotion on an unwilling person, that would be disastrous for morale and the command structure. The exception being field promotion, where a junior must take command when a senior officer is killed or incapacitated. As a side note my grandfather was promoted from corporal to sergeant in the British Army several times and turned it down each time as he didn't want the added responsibility.
– Nathan Griffiths
yesterday
Not only can you, but unlike contemporary militaries, you can essentially resign at any time.
– Brian Ortiz
5 hours ago
3
3
Why not? Seems fairly clear serving in Starfleet is effectively a hobby in the first place (the Federation being post-scarcity society with all basic needs provided for and all). Seems like you wouldn't want to hand additional responsibilities to someone who is not willing to accept them.
– ShadowRanger
yesterday
Why not? Seems fairly clear serving in Starfleet is effectively a hobby in the first place (the Federation being post-scarcity society with all basic needs provided for and all). Seems like you wouldn't want to hand additional responsibilities to someone who is not willing to accept them.
– ShadowRanger
yesterday
I don't think any modern (or future) military organisation would force a promotion on an unwilling person, that would be disastrous for morale and the command structure. The exception being field promotion, where a junior must take command when a senior officer is killed or incapacitated. As a side note my grandfather was promoted from corporal to sergeant in the British Army several times and turned it down each time as he didn't want the added responsibility.
– Nathan Griffiths
yesterday
I don't think any modern (or future) military organisation would force a promotion on an unwilling person, that would be disastrous for morale and the command structure. The exception being field promotion, where a junior must take command when a senior officer is killed or incapacitated. As a side note my grandfather was promoted from corporal to sergeant in the British Army several times and turned it down each time as he didn't want the added responsibility.
– Nathan Griffiths
yesterday
Not only can you, but unlike contemporary militaries, you can essentially resign at any time.
– Brian Ortiz
5 hours ago
Not only can you, but unlike contemporary militaries, you can essentially resign at any time.
– Brian Ortiz
5 hours ago
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Yes, O'Brien discusses putting in for a transfer. Since he's been promoted in his current role, changing position would result in him taking a diminished rank.
O'BRIEN: Look, I'm willing to ask for a transfer if that'll make you happy.
KEIKO: That's not fair either. You'd have to give up your promotion.
O'BRIEN: Not necessarily.
DS9: A Man Alone
Moving down the canon scale, it's discussed in one of the TNG novels that married Starfleet couples are often forced to turn down promotions in order to remain together.
Nor could they have chosen a better time for it. In the past,
Starfleet marriages were risky endeavors, often doomed in the attempt
to balance two careers, forcing choices between refused promotions or
long separations. Either way, domestic pressures added to an already
stressful lifestyle resulted in an unconscionably high rate of broken
marriages.
Star Trek TNG: Survivors
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Yes, O'Brien discusses putting in for a transfer. Since he's been promoted in his current role, changing position would result in him taking a diminished rank.
O'BRIEN: Look, I'm willing to ask for a transfer if that'll make you happy.
KEIKO: That's not fair either. You'd have to give up your promotion.
O'BRIEN: Not necessarily.
DS9: A Man Alone
Moving down the canon scale, it's discussed in one of the TNG novels that married Starfleet couples are often forced to turn down promotions in order to remain together.
Nor could they have chosen a better time for it. In the past,
Starfleet marriages were risky endeavors, often doomed in the attempt
to balance two careers, forcing choices between refused promotions or
long separations. Either way, domestic pressures added to an already
stressful lifestyle resulted in an unconscionably high rate of broken
marriages.
Star Trek TNG: Survivors
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Yes, O'Brien discusses putting in for a transfer. Since he's been promoted in his current role, changing position would result in him taking a diminished rank.
O'BRIEN: Look, I'm willing to ask for a transfer if that'll make you happy.
KEIKO: That's not fair either. You'd have to give up your promotion.
O'BRIEN: Not necessarily.
DS9: A Man Alone
Moving down the canon scale, it's discussed in one of the TNG novels that married Starfleet couples are often forced to turn down promotions in order to remain together.
Nor could they have chosen a better time for it. In the past,
Starfleet marriages were risky endeavors, often doomed in the attempt
to balance two careers, forcing choices between refused promotions or
long separations. Either way, domestic pressures added to an already
stressful lifestyle resulted in an unconscionably high rate of broken
marriages.
Star Trek TNG: Survivors
answered yesterday
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Yes, O'Brien discusses putting in for a transfer. Since he's been promoted in his current role, changing position would result in him taking a diminished rank.
O'BRIEN: Look, I'm willing to ask for a transfer if that'll make you happy.
KEIKO: That's not fair either. You'd have to give up your promotion.
O'BRIEN: Not necessarily.
DS9: A Man Alone
Moving down the canon scale, it's discussed in one of the TNG novels that married Starfleet couples are often forced to turn down promotions in order to remain together.
Nor could they have chosen a better time for it. In the past,
Starfleet marriages were risky endeavors, often doomed in the attempt
to balance two careers, forcing choices between refused promotions or
long separations. Either way, domestic pressures added to an already
stressful lifestyle resulted in an unconscionably high rate of broken
marriages.
Star Trek TNG: Survivors
answered yesterday
ValorumValorum
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Yes, O'Brien discusses putting in for a transfer. Since he's been promoted in his current role, changing position would result in him taking a diminished rank.
O'BRIEN: Look, I'm willing to ask for a transfer if that'll make you happy.
KEIKO: That's not fair either. You'd have to give up your promotion.
O'BRIEN: Not necessarily.
DS9: A Man Alone
Moving down the canon scale, it's discussed in one of the TNG novels that married Starfleet couples are often forced to turn down promotions in order to remain together.
Nor could they have chosen a better time for it. In the past,
Starfleet marriages were risky endeavors, often doomed in the attempt
to balance two careers, forcing choices between refused promotions or
long separations. Either way, domestic pressures added to an already
stressful lifestyle resulted in an unconscionably high rate of broken
marriages.
Star Trek TNG: Survivors
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Why not? Seems fairly clear serving in Starfleet is effectively a hobby in the first place (the Federation being post-scarcity society with all basic needs provided for and all). Seems like you wouldn't want to hand additional responsibilities to someone who is not willing to accept them.
– ShadowRanger
yesterday
I don't think any modern (or future) military organisation would force a promotion on an unwilling person, that would be disastrous for morale and the command structure. The exception being field promotion, where a junior must take command when a senior officer is killed or incapacitated. As a side note my grandfather was promoted from corporal to sergeant in the British Army several times and turned it down each time as he didn't want the added responsibility.
– Nathan Griffiths
yesterday
Not only can you, but unlike contemporary militaries, you can essentially resign at any time.
– Brian Ortiz
5 hours ago