Can one really swear the third Ideal whithout even knowing his spren?
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At the end of Oathbringer,
Szeth swears the third Ideal of the Skybreakers.
The problem is that when the Skybreakers explain how the process of swearing the Ideals works, they say that to swear the third Ideal you need to attract and bond a spren. So how could Szeth swear the Ideal without bonding a spren?
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At the end of Oathbringer,
Szeth swears the third Ideal of the Skybreakers.
The problem is that when the Skybreakers explain how the process of swearing the Ideals works, they say that to swear the third Ideal you need to attract and bond a spren. So how could Szeth swear the Ideal without bonding a spren?
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There were spren shown watching all the Skybreakers and their training. What makes you think he didn't?
– Radhil
2 days ago
@Radhil because when he swears the third ideal its in his viewpoint and there is no mention of a spren
– Antheloth
2 days ago
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@Antheloth - IIRC we also see Lopen swear one of his Ideals largely by accident. It's not a process that's set in stone. (Shallan told a Truth while largely not even remembering Pattern, Kaladin spoke an ideal while his spren was technically dead... Dalinar kinda did One and Two in the same breath.... I'm sure I could pull more).
– Radhil
2 days ago
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At the end of Oathbringer,
Szeth swears the third Ideal of the Skybreakers.
The problem is that when the Skybreakers explain how the process of swearing the Ideals works, they say that to swear the third Ideal you need to attract and bond a spren. So how could Szeth swear the Ideal without bonding a spren?
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edited 2 days ago
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At the end of Oathbringer,
Szeth swears the third Ideal of the Skybreakers.
The problem is that when the Skybreakers explain how the process of swearing the Ideals works, they say that to swear the third Ideal you need to attract and bond a spren. So how could Szeth swear the Ideal without bonding a spren?
cosmere stormlight-archive
cosmere stormlight-archive
edited 2 days ago
Mithoron
8481918
asked 2 days ago
AnthelothAntheloth
1,4661328
edited 2 days ago
Mithoron
8481918
asked 2 days ago
AnthelothAntheloth
1,4661328
edited 2 days ago
Mithoron
8481918
edited 2 days ago
Mithoron
8481918
edited 2 days ago
Mithoron
8481918
8481918
asked 2 days ago
AnthelothAntheloth
1,4661328
asked 2 days ago
AnthelothAntheloth
1,4661328
asked 2 days ago
AnthelothAntheloth
1,4661328
1,4661328
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There were spren shown watching all the Skybreakers and their training. What makes you think he didn't?
– Radhil
2 days ago
@Radhil because when he swears the third ideal its in his viewpoint and there is no mention of a spren
– Antheloth
2 days ago
5
@Antheloth - IIRC we also see Lopen swear one of his Ideals largely by accident. It's not a process that's set in stone. (Shallan told a Truth while largely not even remembering Pattern, Kaladin spoke an ideal while his spren was technically dead... Dalinar kinda did One and Two in the same breath.... I'm sure I could pull more).
– Radhil
2 days ago
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There were spren shown watching all the Skybreakers and their training. What makes you think he didn't?
– Radhil
2 days ago
@Radhil because when he swears the third ideal its in his viewpoint and there is no mention of a spren
– Antheloth
2 days ago
5
@Antheloth - IIRC we also see Lopen swear one of his Ideals largely by accident. It's not a process that's set in stone. (Shallan told a Truth while largely not even remembering Pattern, Kaladin spoke an ideal while his spren was technically dead... Dalinar kinda did One and Two in the same breath.... I'm sure I could pull more).
– Radhil
2 days ago
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There were spren shown watching all the Skybreakers and their training. What makes you think he didn't?
– Radhil
2 days ago
There were spren shown watching all the Skybreakers and their training. What makes you think he didn't?
– Radhil
2 days ago
@Radhil because when he swears the third ideal its in his viewpoint and there is no mention of a spren
– Antheloth
2 days ago
@Radhil because when he swears the third ideal its in his viewpoint and there is no mention of a spren
– Antheloth
2 days ago
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@Antheloth - IIRC we also see Lopen swear one of his Ideals largely by accident. It's not a process that's set in stone. (Shallan told a Truth while largely not even remembering Pattern, Kaladin spoke an ideal while his spren was technically dead... Dalinar kinda did One and Two in the same breath.... I'm sure I could pull more).
– Radhil
2 days ago
@Antheloth - IIRC we also see Lopen swear one of his Ideals largely by accident. It's not a process that's set in stone. (Shallan told a Truth while largely not even remembering Pattern, Kaladin spoke an ideal while his spren was technically dead... Dalinar kinda did One and Two in the same breath.... I'm sure I could pull more).
– Radhil
2 days ago
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There were spren shown watching all the Skybreakers and their training. What makes you think he didn't?
– Radhil
2 days ago
@Radhil because when he swears the third ideal its in his viewpoint and there is no mention of a spren
– Antheloth
2 days ago
5
@Antheloth - IIRC we also see Lopen swear one of his Ideals largely by accident. It's not a process that's set in stone. (Shallan told a Truth while largely not even remembering Pattern, Kaladin spoke an ideal while his spren was technically dead... Dalinar kinda did One and Two in the same breath.... I'm sure I could pull more).
– Radhil
2 days ago