Why are phone calls cylindrical?












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  • If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)

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  • leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf

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    You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.

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何本か重要な電話をかけ、...

He made several important phone calls and ...




Originally part of this question but separated due to popular? demand.



Why is the counter 本 used in reference to phone calls?






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  • If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)

    – Mathieu Bouville
    11 hours ago











  • leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf

    – droooze
    6 hours ago






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    You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.

    – l'électeur
    6 hours ago














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何本か重要な電話をかけ、...

He made several important phone calls and ...




Originally part of this question but separated due to popular? demand.



Why is the counter 本 used in reference to phone calls?






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何本か重要な電話をかけ、...

He made several important phone calls and ...




Originally part of this question but separated due to popular? demand.



Why is the counter 本 used in reference to phone calls?






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  • If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)

    – Mathieu Bouville
    11 hours ago











  • leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf

    – droooze
    6 hours ago






  • 2





    You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.

    – l'électeur
    6 hours ago



















  • If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)

    – Mathieu Bouville
    11 hours ago











  • leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf

    – droooze
    6 hours ago






  • 2





    You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.

    – l'électeur
    6 hours ago

















If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)

– Mathieu Bouville
11 hours ago





If you ever encountered a teenage girl, you would know that phone calls can be very loooong. (This said they can be very flat too.)

– Mathieu Bouville
11 hours ago













leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf

– droooze
6 hours ago





leo.aichi-u.ac.jp/~jiten/pdf/word-vol4/01.pdf

– droooze
6 hours ago




2




2





You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.

– l'électeur
6 hours ago





You might need to forget about "cylindrical" for a moment. 本 has much wider usage as a counter.

– l'électeur
6 hours ago










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To be fair, 本　＝　「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).



But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:




  • 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。

  • 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。

  • 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。


As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...



I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.



(for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)






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    From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)






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      Does THIS answer your question?



      enter image description hereenter image description here



      Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...




      1. Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical


      2. Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)


      3. The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)







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      • +1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.

        – user3856370
        14 hours ago











      • えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？

        – Chocolate♦
        14 hours ago











      • @Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.

        – user3856370
        14 hours ago











      • 受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？

        – sazarando
        14 hours ago






      • 3





        え・・そこ？　回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・　電報も「一本」だし。。

        – Chocolate♦
        14 hours ago











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      To be fair, 本　＝　「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).



      But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:




      • 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。

      • 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。

      • 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。


      As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...



      I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.



      (for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)






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        To be fair, 本　＝　「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).



        But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:




        • 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。

        • 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。

        • 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。


        As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...



        I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.



        (for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)






        share|improve this answer








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          To be fair, 本　＝　「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).



          But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:




          • 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。

          • 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。

          • 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。


          As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...



          I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.



          (for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)






          share|improve this answer








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          To be fair, 本　＝　「細長いもの」is a really popular explanation (note that is does not imply anything about being round, I think that it is an usual extrapolation due to the fact that physical objects that are long and thin are usually cylindrical).



          But many usages actually go against this explanation, or a least do not fall into that classification. Consider the following examples:




          • 子どもたちに三本のゲームを買ってきた。

          • 彼は三本の新しい企画に取り組んだ。

          • 今年は三本のコンサートに行ったよ。


          As you can see, you really need to stretch your mind really far to find the thin, long thing here. At least I cannot find them...



          I've made some quick research on the topic and there appears to be academical research on that topic (!). Like this one, where they distinguish 6 clusters of words to which 本 applies to.



          (for the case of the phone, the "message" coming from letter thing seems plausible though.)







          share|improve this answer








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              From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)






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                From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)






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                  From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)






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                  From the point of view of an operator facing a switchboard, the number of calls is the number of wires plugged in. (Like everyone else, I am just trying to guess.)







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                      Does THIS answer your question?



                      enter image description hereenter image description here



                      Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...




                      1. Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical


                      2. Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)


                      3. The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)







                      share|improve this answer


























                      • +1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago











                      • @Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • 受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？

                        – sazarando
                        14 hours ago






                      • 3





                        え・・そこ？　回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・　電報も「一本」だし。。

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago
















                      -1














                      Does THIS answer your question?



                      enter image description hereenter image description here



                      Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...




                      1. Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical


                      2. Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)


                      3. The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)







                      share|improve this answer


























                      • +1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago











                      • @Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • 受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？

                        – sazarando
                        14 hours ago






                      • 3





                        え・・そこ？　回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・　電報も「一本」だし。。

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago














                      -1












                      -1








                      -1







                      Does THIS answer your question?



                      enter image description hereenter image description here



                      Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...




                      1. Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical


                      2. Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)


                      3. The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)







                      share|improve this answer















                      Does THIS answer your question?



                      enter image description hereenter image description here



                      Seems that there are a number of possible explanations though...




                      1. Parts of the phone, or the phone itself were cylindrical


                      2. Voice was transmitted via wires (long and thin)


                      3. The idea of a "message" where a written letter would be rolled up into a cylinder (letter -> telegraph -> telephone)








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                      • +1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago











                      • @Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • 受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？

                        – sazarando
                        14 hours ago






                      • 3





                        え・・そこ？　回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・　電報も「一本」だし。。

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago



















                      • +1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago











                      • @Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.

                        – user3856370
                        14 hours ago











                      • 受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？

                        – sazarando
                        14 hours ago






                      • 3





                        え・・そこ？　回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・　電報も「一本」だし。。

                        – Chocolate♦
                        14 hours ago

















                      +1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.

                      – user3856370
                      14 hours ago





                      +1 Looks convincing. I'll wait to see if anyone has other thoughts before accepting though.

                      – user3856370
                      14 hours ago













                      えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？

                      – Chocolate♦
                      14 hours ago





                      えっ、わかんない、、、なんで？

                      – Chocolate♦
                      14 hours ago













                      @Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.

                      – user3856370
                      14 hours ago





                      @Chocolate Well I assumed the reasoning was that the old-style phone has lots of cylindrical components.

                      – user3856370
                      14 hours ago













                      受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？

                      – sazarando
                      14 hours ago





                      受話器もスピーカーも筒形でしょ？

                      – sazarando
                      14 hours ago




                      3




                      3





                      え・・そこ？　回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・　電報も「一本」だし。。

                      – Chocolate♦
                      14 hours ago





                      え・・そこ？　回線を使ってるからかな？と思ってた・・　電報も「一本」だし。。

                      – Chocolate♦
                      14 hours ago


















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