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I have defined a command low that adds a subscript to an argument:



newcommand{low}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}


However, if the argument of low contains subscripts itsself (for example in the case of low{low{Sigma}}) it is not easy to see that the subscripts introduced by the outer low belong to the whole argument and not just to the first subscript. Therefore I would like to automatically introduce parentheses if the argument of low contains a subscript (so low{low{Sigma}} should look like low{(low{Sigma})}.



In order to achieve this I tried the following using the xifthen package:



newcommand{low}[1]{ifthenelse{isin{_}{#1}}{{(#1)}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}}


However to my surprise this command only sometimes inserts the parantheses.
In particular it does not do so in the example given above. Why does this happen and what can I do to fix this?



EDIT: It seems that the problem is that isin does not unroll the definitions of commands. @egreg has already provided an answer that allows me to check for nested calls of low but does not work for arguments that contain other commands with subscripts. Does anyone have a solution that works for arbitrary arguments?










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    I have defined a command low that adds a subscript to an argument:



    newcommand{low}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}


    However, if the argument of low contains subscripts itsself (for example in the case of low{low{Sigma}}) it is not easy to see that the subscripts introduced by the outer low belong to the whole argument and not just to the first subscript. Therefore I would like to automatically introduce parentheses if the argument of low contains a subscript (so low{low{Sigma}} should look like low{(low{Sigma})}.



    In order to achieve this I tried the following using the xifthen package:



    newcommand{low}[1]{ifthenelse{isin{_}{#1}}{{(#1)}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}}


    However to my surprise this command only sometimes inserts the parantheses.
    In particular it does not do so in the example given above. Why does this happen and what can I do to fix this?



    EDIT: It seems that the problem is that isin does not unroll the definitions of commands. @egreg has already provided an answer that allows me to check for nested calls of low but does not work for arguments that contain other commands with subscripts. Does anyone have a solution that works for arbitrary arguments?










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      I have defined a command low that adds a subscript to an argument:



      newcommand{low}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}


      However, if the argument of low contains subscripts itsself (for example in the case of low{low{Sigma}}) it is not easy to see that the subscripts introduced by the outer low belong to the whole argument and not just to the first subscript. Therefore I would like to automatically introduce parentheses if the argument of low contains a subscript (so low{low{Sigma}} should look like low{(low{Sigma})}.



      In order to achieve this I tried the following using the xifthen package:



      newcommand{low}[1]{ifthenelse{isin{_}{#1}}{{(#1)}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}}


      However to my surprise this command only sometimes inserts the parantheses.
      In particular it does not do so in the example given above. Why does this happen and what can I do to fix this?



      EDIT: It seems that the problem is that isin does not unroll the definitions of commands. @egreg has already provided an answer that allows me to check for nested calls of low but does not work for arguments that contain other commands with subscripts. Does anyone have a solution that works for arbitrary arguments?










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      I have defined a command low that adds a subscript to an argument:



      newcommand{low}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}


      However, if the argument of low contains subscripts itsself (for example in the case of low{low{Sigma}}) it is not easy to see that the subscripts introduced by the outer low belong to the whole argument and not just to the first subscript. Therefore I would like to automatically introduce parentheses if the argument of low contains a subscript (so low{low{Sigma}} should look like low{(low{Sigma})}.



      In order to achieve this I tried the following using the xifthen package:



      newcommand{low}[1]{ifthenelse{isin{_}{#1}}{{(#1)}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}}


      However to my surprise this command only sometimes inserts the parantheses.
      In particular it does not do so in the example given above. Why does this happen and what can I do to fix this?



      EDIT: It seems that the problem is that isin does not unroll the definitions of commands. @egreg has already provided an answer that allows me to check for nested calls of low but does not work for arguments that contain other commands with subscripts. Does anyone have a solution that works for arbitrary arguments?







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          You can use a conditional. If it is true, add parentheses, if it is false, set it to true and don't add parentheses.



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage{amsmath}

          newififnestedlow
          newcommand{low}[1]{%
          begingroup
          ifnestedlow
          (normallow{#1})%
          else
          nestedlowtrue
          normallow{#1}%
          fi
          endgroup
          }
          newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

          begin{document}

          [
          low{Sigma} qquad low{low{Sigma}} qquad low{Sigma}
          ]

          end{document}


          Doing this in a group ensures the conditional will be false at the next call.



          enter image description here






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          • Thanks for the suggestion. This does, however, only check whether I have nested calls of low. It does not seem to do anything in cases where I have for example low{Sigma_1} or even low{subs} where subs produces some output with a subscript.

            – Rincewind
            13 hours ago













          • @Rincewind The problem is underspecified, then. And very hard to solve in the general case: subs may expand to something containing _. If you allow whatever command that may expand to something with _, then no, you can't do it.

            – egreg
            13 hours ago





















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          In some cases applying protected@edef and @onelevel@sanitize before checking for a "stringified" _ might work out:



          documentclass{article}
          usepackage{amsmath}
          usepackage{xifthen}

          newififnownestlownownestlowfalse

          makeatletter
          DeclareRobustCommandlow[1]{%
          begingroup
          begingroup
          protected@edef@tempa{#1}%
          @onelevel@sanitize@tempa
          expandafterexpandafterexpandafterendgroup
          expandafterexpandafterexpandafterifthenelse
          expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
          expandafterexpandafterexpandafterisin
          expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
          expandafterexpandafterstring_%
          expandafter}%
          expandafter{%
          @tempa}}%
          {ifnownestlow(nownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)})elsenownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)}fi}%
          {ifnownestlow(nownestlowtruenormallow{#1})elsenownestlowtruenormallow{#1}fi}%
          endgroup
          }
          makeatother
          newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

          begin{document}

          [
          low{Sigma} qquad
          low{low{Sigma}} qquad
          low{low{low{Sigma}}} qquad
          ]
          [
          low{Sigma_b} qquad
          low{low{Sigma_b}} qquad
          low{low{low{Sigma_b}}} qquad
          ]
          [
          low{{Sigma_b}} qquad
          low{b_{low{c_{low{Sigma_d}}}}} qquad
          (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}
          ]

          end{document}


          enter image description here



          expandafter causes that the next but one token —if expandable—gets expanded exactly once before the next token gets expanded if expandable. (La)TeX considers the work of expandafter done when expansion of the next but one token is done. Therefore you can use chains/dequences of expandafter to have (La)TeX "jump" over k tokens for first expanding the (k+1)-th token.



          @onelevel@sanitizemacro changes the definition of macro so that macro spits out a sequence of character tokens of category code 12(other) that looks like the token-sequence that would have been "spit out" by macro before applying @onelevel@sanitize. It is almost like redefining macro to what you get by applying string to each token of macro's definition.



          protected@edef defines a macro but before doing so, it expands all expandable tokens of the definition-text except those that either are defined via DeclareRobustCommand or are preceded by the token protect. You might say: protected@edef does "unroll" the definitions of the tokens contained in its definition-text before actually performing the assignment.



          @tempa is a scratch-macro which gets defined by means of protected@edef to expand to the argument #1 with all definitions in #1 "unrolled".



          The ifthenelse{isin...}-test does not find _ that are nested in curly-braces as curly braces usually have a special function. Therefore @onelevel@sanitize is applied for turning all tokens, and thus also the curly braces, into ordinary harmless character-tokens of category code 12(other) which do not disturb the ifthenelse{isin...} test.






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          • To be honest, I don't really understand what is going on here. What do protected@edef, tempa,@onelevel@sanitize, string and expandafter do? As it is it does not seem to be doing what I want. I'd like low{Sigma_b} to have the same output as (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}. Because I don't really understand what's going on, I can't tell whether this can be done by slightly modifying your solution or not.

            – Rincewind
            11 hours ago











          • @Rincewind I have revised and modified my answer. I hope the code now does what you need. I also tried to add some explanation. ;-)

            – Ulrich Diez
            7 hours ago



















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          An idea (not straight forward solution) is to place the argument inside a box and check its height with the height of a character you suppose is not too tall to need parenthesis but not too short to add parenthesis to your Sigma.



          And guess what will be our default argument: Sigma... P



          The code (containing some tests) is this:



          documentclass{article}
          defDefLowArg{$Sigma$}
          letoldDefLowArgDefLowArg
          newsavebox{myAbox}
          newsavebox{myBbox}
          newcommand{low}[2][DefLowArg]{saveboxmyAbox{vbox{#1}}saveboxmyBbox{vbox{ensuremath{#2}}}
          ifdimdimexprhtmyAbox+dpmyAbox<dimexprhtmyBbox+dpmyBboxrelax
          left({#2}right)_{l_{mathcal{A}}}
          else {#2}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}fi
          }
          begin{document}

          [low{low{Sigma}}]

          [low{Sigma}]
          [
          low{sum_{i=3}^5 F(x)}
          ]

          [
          low{frac{F(x)}{x+5}}
          ]

          [low{F_x}]

          [low[1/4]{F(x)}]

          [low{x^2}]

          [
          low{G_x}
          ]

          These commands may be should add without parentheses

          [
          low{g(z)}
          ]
          [
          low{F(x)}
          ]

          {bfseries Solution 1 Add an tall optional argument in the command like: verb|low[/]{F(x)}|}

          [
          low[/]{g(z)}
          ]
          [
          low[/]{F(x)}
          ]

          {bfseries Solution 2 Change the Default argument verb|DefLowArg| to something tall enough (return with verb|letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg|):}

          xdefDefLowArg{/}

          [
          low{g(z)}
          ]
          [
          low{F(x)}
          ]
          letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg


          {bfseries And back to default}

          [
          low{F(X)}
          ]

          end{document}


          That produces:



          enter image description here



          PS:Of course manual solutions should be added in special cases but anyway in your command I am sure you would have exceptions for many cases.






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            You can use a conditional. If it is true, add parentheses, if it is false, set it to true and don't add parentheses.



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}

            newififnestedlow
            newcommand{low}[1]{%
            begingroup
            ifnestedlow
            (normallow{#1})%
            else
            nestedlowtrue
            normallow{#1}%
            fi
            endgroup
            }
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad low{low{Sigma}} qquad low{Sigma}
            ]

            end{document}


            Doing this in a group ensures the conditional will be false at the next call.



            enter image description here






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            • Thanks for the suggestion. This does, however, only check whether I have nested calls of low. It does not seem to do anything in cases where I have for example low{Sigma_1} or even low{subs} where subs produces some output with a subscript.

              – Rincewind
              13 hours ago













            • @Rincewind The problem is underspecified, then. And very hard to solve in the general case: subs may expand to something containing _. If you allow whatever command that may expand to something with _, then no, you can't do it.

              – egreg
              13 hours ago


















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            You can use a conditional. If it is true, add parentheses, if it is false, set it to true and don't add parentheses.



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}

            newififnestedlow
            newcommand{low}[1]{%
            begingroup
            ifnestedlow
            (normallow{#1})%
            else
            nestedlowtrue
            normallow{#1}%
            fi
            endgroup
            }
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad low{low{Sigma}} qquad low{Sigma}
            ]

            end{document}


            Doing this in a group ensures the conditional will be false at the next call.



            enter image description here






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            • Thanks for the suggestion. This does, however, only check whether I have nested calls of low. It does not seem to do anything in cases where I have for example low{Sigma_1} or even low{subs} where subs produces some output with a subscript.

              – Rincewind
              13 hours ago













            • @Rincewind The problem is underspecified, then. And very hard to solve in the general case: subs may expand to something containing _. If you allow whatever command that may expand to something with _, then no, you can't do it.

              – egreg
              13 hours ago
















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            You can use a conditional. If it is true, add parentheses, if it is false, set it to true and don't add parentheses.



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}

            newififnestedlow
            newcommand{low}[1]{%
            begingroup
            ifnestedlow
            (normallow{#1})%
            else
            nestedlowtrue
            normallow{#1}%
            fi
            endgroup
            }
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad low{low{Sigma}} qquad low{Sigma}
            ]

            end{document}


            Doing this in a group ensures the conditional will be false at the next call.



            enter image description here






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            You can use a conditional. If it is true, add parentheses, if it is false, set it to true and don't add parentheses.



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}

            newififnestedlow
            newcommand{low}[1]{%
            begingroup
            ifnestedlow
            (normallow{#1})%
            else
            nestedlowtrue
            normallow{#1}%
            fi
            endgroup
            }
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad low{low{Sigma}} qquad low{Sigma}
            ]

            end{document}


            Doing this in a group ensures the conditional will be false at the next call.



            enter image description here







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            • Thanks for the suggestion. This does, however, only check whether I have nested calls of low. It does not seem to do anything in cases where I have for example low{Sigma_1} or even low{subs} where subs produces some output with a subscript.

              – Rincewind
              13 hours ago













            • @Rincewind The problem is underspecified, then. And very hard to solve in the general case: subs may expand to something containing _. If you allow whatever command that may expand to something with _, then no, you can't do it.

              – egreg
              13 hours ago





















            • Thanks for the suggestion. This does, however, only check whether I have nested calls of low. It does not seem to do anything in cases where I have for example low{Sigma_1} or even low{subs} where subs produces some output with a subscript.

              – Rincewind
              13 hours ago













            • @Rincewind The problem is underspecified, then. And very hard to solve in the general case: subs may expand to something containing _. If you allow whatever command that may expand to something with _, then no, you can't do it.

              – egreg
              13 hours ago



















            Thanks for the suggestion. This does, however, only check whether I have nested calls of low. It does not seem to do anything in cases where I have for example low{Sigma_1} or even low{subs} where subs produces some output with a subscript.

            – Rincewind
            13 hours ago







            Thanks for the suggestion. This does, however, only check whether I have nested calls of low. It does not seem to do anything in cases where I have for example low{Sigma_1} or even low{subs} where subs produces some output with a subscript.

            – Rincewind
            13 hours ago















            @Rincewind The problem is underspecified, then. And very hard to solve in the general case: subs may expand to something containing _. If you allow whatever command that may expand to something with _, then no, you can't do it.

            – egreg
            13 hours ago







            @Rincewind The problem is underspecified, then. And very hard to solve in the general case: subs may expand to something containing _. If you allow whatever command that may expand to something with _, then no, you can't do it.

            – egreg
            13 hours ago













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            In some cases applying protected@edef and @onelevel@sanitize before checking for a "stringified" _ might work out:



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}
            usepackage{xifthen}

            newififnownestlownownestlowfalse

            makeatletter
            DeclareRobustCommandlow[1]{%
            begingroup
            begingroup
            protected@edef@tempa{#1}%
            @onelevel@sanitize@tempa
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterendgroup
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterifthenelse
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterisin
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterstring_%
            expandafter}%
            expandafter{%
            @tempa}}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)})elsenownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)}fi}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowtruenormallow{#1})elsenownestlowtruenormallow{#1}fi}%
            endgroup
            }
            makeatother
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad
            low{low{Sigma}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{Sigma_b} qquad
            low{low{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma_b}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{b_{low{c_{low{Sigma_d}}}}} qquad
            (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}
            ]

            end{document}


            enter image description here



            expandafter causes that the next but one token —if expandable—gets expanded exactly once before the next token gets expanded if expandable. (La)TeX considers the work of expandafter done when expansion of the next but one token is done. Therefore you can use chains/dequences of expandafter to have (La)TeX "jump" over k tokens for first expanding the (k+1)-th token.



            @onelevel@sanitizemacro changes the definition of macro so that macro spits out a sequence of character tokens of category code 12(other) that looks like the token-sequence that would have been "spit out" by macro before applying @onelevel@sanitize. It is almost like redefining macro to what you get by applying string to each token of macro's definition.



            protected@edef defines a macro but before doing so, it expands all expandable tokens of the definition-text except those that either are defined via DeclareRobustCommand or are preceded by the token protect. You might say: protected@edef does "unroll" the definitions of the tokens contained in its definition-text before actually performing the assignment.



            @tempa is a scratch-macro which gets defined by means of protected@edef to expand to the argument #1 with all definitions in #1 "unrolled".



            The ifthenelse{isin...}-test does not find _ that are nested in curly-braces as curly braces usually have a special function. Therefore @onelevel@sanitize is applied for turning all tokens, and thus also the curly braces, into ordinary harmless character-tokens of category code 12(other) which do not disturb the ifthenelse{isin...} test.






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            • To be honest, I don't really understand what is going on here. What do protected@edef, tempa,@onelevel@sanitize, string and expandafter do? As it is it does not seem to be doing what I want. I'd like low{Sigma_b} to have the same output as (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}. Because I don't really understand what's going on, I can't tell whether this can be done by slightly modifying your solution or not.

              – Rincewind
              11 hours ago











            • @Rincewind I have revised and modified my answer. I hope the code now does what you need. I also tried to add some explanation. ;-)

              – Ulrich Diez
              7 hours ago
















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            In some cases applying protected@edef and @onelevel@sanitize before checking for a "stringified" _ might work out:



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}
            usepackage{xifthen}

            newififnownestlownownestlowfalse

            makeatletter
            DeclareRobustCommandlow[1]{%
            begingroup
            begingroup
            protected@edef@tempa{#1}%
            @onelevel@sanitize@tempa
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterendgroup
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterifthenelse
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterisin
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterstring_%
            expandafter}%
            expandafter{%
            @tempa}}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)})elsenownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)}fi}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowtruenormallow{#1})elsenownestlowtruenormallow{#1}fi}%
            endgroup
            }
            makeatother
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad
            low{low{Sigma}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{Sigma_b} qquad
            low{low{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma_b}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{b_{low{c_{low{Sigma_d}}}}} qquad
            (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}
            ]

            end{document}


            enter image description here



            expandafter causes that the next but one token —if expandable—gets expanded exactly once before the next token gets expanded if expandable. (La)TeX considers the work of expandafter done when expansion of the next but one token is done. Therefore you can use chains/dequences of expandafter to have (La)TeX "jump" over k tokens for first expanding the (k+1)-th token.



            @onelevel@sanitizemacro changes the definition of macro so that macro spits out a sequence of character tokens of category code 12(other) that looks like the token-sequence that would have been "spit out" by macro before applying @onelevel@sanitize. It is almost like redefining macro to what you get by applying string to each token of macro's definition.



            protected@edef defines a macro but before doing so, it expands all expandable tokens of the definition-text except those that either are defined via DeclareRobustCommand or are preceded by the token protect. You might say: protected@edef does "unroll" the definitions of the tokens contained in its definition-text before actually performing the assignment.



            @tempa is a scratch-macro which gets defined by means of protected@edef to expand to the argument #1 with all definitions in #1 "unrolled".



            The ifthenelse{isin...}-test does not find _ that are nested in curly-braces as curly braces usually have a special function. Therefore @onelevel@sanitize is applied for turning all tokens, and thus also the curly braces, into ordinary harmless character-tokens of category code 12(other) which do not disturb the ifthenelse{isin...} test.






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            • To be honest, I don't really understand what is going on here. What do protected@edef, tempa,@onelevel@sanitize, string and expandafter do? As it is it does not seem to be doing what I want. I'd like low{Sigma_b} to have the same output as (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}. Because I don't really understand what's going on, I can't tell whether this can be done by slightly modifying your solution or not.

              – Rincewind
              11 hours ago











            • @Rincewind I have revised and modified my answer. I hope the code now does what you need. I also tried to add some explanation. ;-)

              – Ulrich Diez
              7 hours ago














            2












            2








            2







            In some cases applying protected@edef and @onelevel@sanitize before checking for a "stringified" _ might work out:



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}
            usepackage{xifthen}

            newififnownestlownownestlowfalse

            makeatletter
            DeclareRobustCommandlow[1]{%
            begingroup
            begingroup
            protected@edef@tempa{#1}%
            @onelevel@sanitize@tempa
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterendgroup
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterifthenelse
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterisin
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterstring_%
            expandafter}%
            expandafter{%
            @tempa}}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)})elsenownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)}fi}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowtruenormallow{#1})elsenownestlowtruenormallow{#1}fi}%
            endgroup
            }
            makeatother
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad
            low{low{Sigma}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{Sigma_b} qquad
            low{low{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma_b}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{b_{low{c_{low{Sigma_d}}}}} qquad
            (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}
            ]

            end{document}


            enter image description here



            expandafter causes that the next but one token —if expandable—gets expanded exactly once before the next token gets expanded if expandable. (La)TeX considers the work of expandafter done when expansion of the next but one token is done. Therefore you can use chains/dequences of expandafter to have (La)TeX "jump" over k tokens for first expanding the (k+1)-th token.



            @onelevel@sanitizemacro changes the definition of macro so that macro spits out a sequence of character tokens of category code 12(other) that looks like the token-sequence that would have been "spit out" by macro before applying @onelevel@sanitize. It is almost like redefining macro to what you get by applying string to each token of macro's definition.



            protected@edef defines a macro but before doing so, it expands all expandable tokens of the definition-text except those that either are defined via DeclareRobustCommand or are preceded by the token protect. You might say: protected@edef does "unroll" the definitions of the tokens contained in its definition-text before actually performing the assignment.



            @tempa is a scratch-macro which gets defined by means of protected@edef to expand to the argument #1 with all definitions in #1 "unrolled".



            The ifthenelse{isin...}-test does not find _ that are nested in curly-braces as curly braces usually have a special function. Therefore @onelevel@sanitize is applied for turning all tokens, and thus also the curly braces, into ordinary harmless character-tokens of category code 12(other) which do not disturb the ifthenelse{isin...} test.






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            In some cases applying protected@edef and @onelevel@sanitize before checking for a "stringified" _ might work out:



            documentclass{article}
            usepackage{amsmath}
            usepackage{xifthen}

            newififnownestlownownestlowfalse

            makeatletter
            DeclareRobustCommandlow[1]{%
            begingroup
            begingroup
            protected@edef@tempa{#1}%
            @onelevel@sanitize@tempa
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterendgroup
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterifthenelse
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafterisin
            expandafterexpandafterexpandafter{%
            expandafterexpandafterstring_%
            expandafter}%
            expandafter{%
            @tempa}}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)})elsenownestlowfalsenormallow{(#1)}fi}%
            {ifnownestlow(nownestlowtruenormallow{#1})elsenownestlowtruenormallow{#1}fi}%
            endgroup
            }
            makeatother
            newcommand{normallow}[1]{{#1}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}}

            begin{document}

            [
            low{Sigma} qquad
            low{low{Sigma}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{Sigma_b} qquad
            low{low{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{low{low{Sigma_b}}} qquad
            ]
            [
            low{{Sigma_b}} qquad
            low{b_{low{c_{low{Sigma_d}}}}} qquad
            (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}
            ]

            end{document}


            enter image description here



            expandafter causes that the next but one token —if expandable—gets expanded exactly once before the next token gets expanded if expandable. (La)TeX considers the work of expandafter done when expansion of the next but one token is done. Therefore you can use chains/dequences of expandafter to have (La)TeX "jump" over k tokens for first expanding the (k+1)-th token.



            @onelevel@sanitizemacro changes the definition of macro so that macro spits out a sequence of character tokens of category code 12(other) that looks like the token-sequence that would have been "spit out" by macro before applying @onelevel@sanitize. It is almost like redefining macro to what you get by applying string to each token of macro's definition.



            protected@edef defines a macro but before doing so, it expands all expandable tokens of the definition-text except those that either are defined via DeclareRobustCommand or are preceded by the token protect. You might say: protected@edef does "unroll" the definitions of the tokens contained in its definition-text before actually performing the assignment.



            @tempa is a scratch-macro which gets defined by means of protected@edef to expand to the argument #1 with all definitions in #1 "unrolled".



            The ifthenelse{isin...}-test does not find _ that are nested in curly-braces as curly braces usually have a special function. Therefore @onelevel@sanitize is applied for turning all tokens, and thus also the curly braces, into ordinary harmless character-tokens of category code 12(other) which do not disturb the ifthenelse{isin...} test.







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            edited 6 hours ago

























            answered 12 hours ago









            Ulrich DiezUlrich Diez

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            • To be honest, I don't really understand what is going on here. What do protected@edef, tempa,@onelevel@sanitize, string and expandafter do? As it is it does not seem to be doing what I want. I'd like low{Sigma_b} to have the same output as (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}. Because I don't really understand what's going on, I can't tell whether this can be done by slightly modifying your solution or not.

              – Rincewind
              11 hours ago











            • @Rincewind I have revised and modified my answer. I hope the code now does what you need. I also tried to add some explanation. ;-)

              – Ulrich Diez
              7 hours ago



















            • To be honest, I don't really understand what is going on here. What do protected@edef, tempa,@onelevel@sanitize, string and expandafter do? As it is it does not seem to be doing what I want. I'd like low{Sigma_b} to have the same output as (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}. Because I don't really understand what's going on, I can't tell whether this can be done by slightly modifying your solution or not.

              – Rincewind
              11 hours ago











            • @Rincewind I have revised and modified my answer. I hope the code now does what you need. I also tried to add some explanation. ;-)

              – Ulrich Diez
              7 hours ago

















            To be honest, I don't really understand what is going on here. What do protected@edef, tempa,@onelevel@sanitize, string and expandafter do? As it is it does not seem to be doing what I want. I'd like low{Sigma_b} to have the same output as (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}. Because I don't really understand what's going on, I can't tell whether this can be done by slightly modifying your solution or not.

            – Rincewind
            11 hours ago





            To be honest, I don't really understand what is going on here. What do protected@edef, tempa,@onelevel@sanitize, string and expandafter do? As it is it does not seem to be doing what I want. I'd like low{Sigma_b} to have the same output as (Sigma_b)_{l_mathcal{A}}. Because I don't really understand what's going on, I can't tell whether this can be done by slightly modifying your solution or not.

            – Rincewind
            11 hours ago













            @Rincewind I have revised and modified my answer. I hope the code now does what you need. I also tried to add some explanation. ;-)

            – Ulrich Diez
            7 hours ago





            @Rincewind I have revised and modified my answer. I hope the code now does what you need. I also tried to add some explanation. ;-)

            – Ulrich Diez
            7 hours ago











            1














            An idea (not straight forward solution) is to place the argument inside a box and check its height with the height of a character you suppose is not too tall to need parenthesis but not too short to add parenthesis to your Sigma.



            And guess what will be our default argument: Sigma... P



            The code (containing some tests) is this:



            documentclass{article}
            defDefLowArg{$Sigma$}
            letoldDefLowArgDefLowArg
            newsavebox{myAbox}
            newsavebox{myBbox}
            newcommand{low}[2][DefLowArg]{saveboxmyAbox{vbox{#1}}saveboxmyBbox{vbox{ensuremath{#2}}}
            ifdimdimexprhtmyAbox+dpmyAbox<dimexprhtmyBbox+dpmyBboxrelax
            left({#2}right)_{l_{mathcal{A}}}
            else {#2}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}fi
            }
            begin{document}

            [low{low{Sigma}}]

            [low{Sigma}]
            [
            low{sum_{i=3}^5 F(x)}
            ]

            [
            low{frac{F(x)}{x+5}}
            ]

            [low{F_x}]

            [low[1/4]{F(x)}]

            [low{x^2}]

            [
            low{G_x}
            ]

            These commands may be should add without parentheses

            [
            low{g(z)}
            ]
            [
            low{F(x)}
            ]

            {bfseries Solution 1 Add an tall optional argument in the command like: verb|low[/]{F(x)}|}

            [
            low[/]{g(z)}
            ]
            [
            low[/]{F(x)}
            ]

            {bfseries Solution 2 Change the Default argument verb|DefLowArg| to something tall enough (return with verb|letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg|):}

            xdefDefLowArg{/}

            [
            low{g(z)}
            ]
            [
            low{F(x)}
            ]
            letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg


            {bfseries And back to default}

            [
            low{F(X)}
            ]

            end{document}


            That produces:



            enter image description here



            PS:Of course manual solutions should be added in special cases but anyway in your command I am sure you would have exceptions for many cases.






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              1














              An idea (not straight forward solution) is to place the argument inside a box and check its height with the height of a character you suppose is not too tall to need parenthesis but not too short to add parenthesis to your Sigma.



              And guess what will be our default argument: Sigma... P



              The code (containing some tests) is this:



              documentclass{article}
              defDefLowArg{$Sigma$}
              letoldDefLowArgDefLowArg
              newsavebox{myAbox}
              newsavebox{myBbox}
              newcommand{low}[2][DefLowArg]{saveboxmyAbox{vbox{#1}}saveboxmyBbox{vbox{ensuremath{#2}}}
              ifdimdimexprhtmyAbox+dpmyAbox<dimexprhtmyBbox+dpmyBboxrelax
              left({#2}right)_{l_{mathcal{A}}}
              else {#2}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}fi
              }
              begin{document}

              [low{low{Sigma}}]

              [low{Sigma}]
              [
              low{sum_{i=3}^5 F(x)}
              ]

              [
              low{frac{F(x)}{x+5}}
              ]

              [low{F_x}]

              [low[1/4]{F(x)}]

              [low{x^2}]

              [
              low{G_x}
              ]

              These commands may be should add without parentheses

              [
              low{g(z)}
              ]
              [
              low{F(x)}
              ]

              {bfseries Solution 1 Add an tall optional argument in the command like: verb|low[/]{F(x)}|}

              [
              low[/]{g(z)}
              ]
              [
              low[/]{F(x)}
              ]

              {bfseries Solution 2 Change the Default argument verb|DefLowArg| to something tall enough (return with verb|letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg|):}

              xdefDefLowArg{/}

              [
              low{g(z)}
              ]
              [
              low{F(x)}
              ]
              letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg


              {bfseries And back to default}

              [
              low{F(X)}
              ]

              end{document}


              That produces:



              enter image description here



              PS:Of course manual solutions should be added in special cases but anyway in your command I am sure you would have exceptions for many cases.






              share|improve this answer


























                1












                1








                1







                An idea (not straight forward solution) is to place the argument inside a box and check its height with the height of a character you suppose is not too tall to need parenthesis but not too short to add parenthesis to your Sigma.



                And guess what will be our default argument: Sigma... P



                The code (containing some tests) is this:



                documentclass{article}
                defDefLowArg{$Sigma$}
                letoldDefLowArgDefLowArg
                newsavebox{myAbox}
                newsavebox{myBbox}
                newcommand{low}[2][DefLowArg]{saveboxmyAbox{vbox{#1}}saveboxmyBbox{vbox{ensuremath{#2}}}
                ifdimdimexprhtmyAbox+dpmyAbox<dimexprhtmyBbox+dpmyBboxrelax
                left({#2}right)_{l_{mathcal{A}}}
                else {#2}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}fi
                }
                begin{document}

                [low{low{Sigma}}]

                [low{Sigma}]
                [
                low{sum_{i=3}^5 F(x)}
                ]

                [
                low{frac{F(x)}{x+5}}
                ]

                [low{F_x}]

                [low[1/4]{F(x)}]

                [low{x^2}]

                [
                low{G_x}
                ]

                These commands may be should add without parentheses

                [
                low{g(z)}
                ]
                [
                low{F(x)}
                ]

                {bfseries Solution 1 Add an tall optional argument in the command like: verb|low[/]{F(x)}|}

                [
                low[/]{g(z)}
                ]
                [
                low[/]{F(x)}
                ]

                {bfseries Solution 2 Change the Default argument verb|DefLowArg| to something tall enough (return with verb|letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg|):}

                xdefDefLowArg{/}

                [
                low{g(z)}
                ]
                [
                low{F(x)}
                ]
                letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg


                {bfseries And back to default}

                [
                low{F(X)}
                ]

                end{document}


                That produces:



                enter image description here



                PS:Of course manual solutions should be added in special cases but anyway in your command I am sure you would have exceptions for many cases.






                share|improve this answer













                An idea (not straight forward solution) is to place the argument inside a box and check its height with the height of a character you suppose is not too tall to need parenthesis but not too short to add parenthesis to your Sigma.



                And guess what will be our default argument: Sigma... P



                The code (containing some tests) is this:



                documentclass{article}
                defDefLowArg{$Sigma$}
                letoldDefLowArgDefLowArg
                newsavebox{myAbox}
                newsavebox{myBbox}
                newcommand{low}[2][DefLowArg]{saveboxmyAbox{vbox{#1}}saveboxmyBbox{vbox{ensuremath{#2}}}
                ifdimdimexprhtmyAbox+dpmyAbox<dimexprhtmyBbox+dpmyBboxrelax
                left({#2}right)_{l_{mathcal{A}}}
                else {#2}_{l_{mathcal{A}}}fi
                }
                begin{document}

                [low{low{Sigma}}]

                [low{Sigma}]
                [
                low{sum_{i=3}^5 F(x)}
                ]

                [
                low{frac{F(x)}{x+5}}
                ]

                [low{F_x}]

                [low[1/4]{F(x)}]

                [low{x^2}]

                [
                low{G_x}
                ]

                These commands may be should add without parentheses

                [
                low{g(z)}
                ]
                [
                low{F(x)}
                ]

                {bfseries Solution 1 Add an tall optional argument in the command like: verb|low[/]{F(x)}|}

                [
                low[/]{g(z)}
                ]
                [
                low[/]{F(x)}
                ]

                {bfseries Solution 2 Change the Default argument verb|DefLowArg| to something tall enough (return with verb|letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg|):}

                xdefDefLowArg{/}

                [
                low{g(z)}
                ]
                [
                low{F(x)}
                ]
                letDefLowArgoldDefLowArg


                {bfseries And back to default}

                [
                low{F(X)}
                ]

                end{document}


                That produces:



                enter image description here



                PS:Of course manual solutions should be added in special cases but anyway in your command I am sure you would have exceptions for many cases.







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