Is there a way to store 9th-level spells in a Glyph of Warding or similar method?
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Are there any methods to store spells of 9th level at a location, preferably in a manner that can be triggered in a manner similar to glyph of warding? Magic items could be accepted as the answer as well.
It needs to be a method that doesn’t require two 9th-level spell slots; using glyph of warding would require you to cast glyph of warding at 9th level, then the other spell at 9th level as well.
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Are there any methods to store spells of 9th level at a location, preferably in a manner that can be triggered in a manner similar to glyph of warding? Magic items could be accepted as the answer as well.
It needs to be a method that doesn’t require two 9th-level spell slots; using glyph of warding would require you to cast glyph of warding at 9th level, then the other spell at 9th level as well.
dnd-5e spells magic
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Are there any methods to store spells of 9th level at a location, preferably in a manner that can be triggered in a manner similar to glyph of warding? Magic items could be accepted as the answer as well.
It needs to be a method that doesn’t require two 9th-level spell slots; using glyph of warding would require you to cast glyph of warding at 9th level, then the other spell at 9th level as well.
dnd-5e spells magic
edited 3 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
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asked 3 hours ago
Ej SizemoreEj Sizemore
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Are there any methods to store spells of 9th level at a location, preferably in a manner that can be triggered in a manner similar to glyph of warding? Magic items could be accepted as the answer as well.
It needs to be a method that doesn’t require two 9th-level spell slots; using glyph of warding would require you to cast glyph of warding at 9th level, then the other spell at 9th level as well.
dnd-5e spells magic
dnd-5e spells magic
edited 3 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
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asked 3 hours ago
Ej SizemoreEj Sizemore
2639
edited 3 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
56.6k9274424
asked 3 hours ago
Ej SizemoreEj Sizemore
2639
edited 3 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
56.6k9274424
edited 3 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
56.6k9274424
edited 3 hours ago
Rubiksmoose
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Ej SizemoreEj Sizemore
2639
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Ej SizemoreEj Sizemore
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– Mark Wells
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– Mark Wells
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– Mark Wells
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What are you actually trying to do?
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– Mark Wells
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Let us continue this discussion in chat.
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– Rubiksmoose
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Boon of High Magic + glyph of warding
You assume in your question that there is no way to get 2 9th-level slots, but you can.
A 20th level wizard that the DM has granted a Boon of High Magic will be able to do this.
The Boon of High Magic says:
You gain one 9th level spell slot, provided you already have one.
Thus you would have 2 9th-level spell slots. One to cast glyph of warding at 9th-level (which then allows it to store a 9th-level spell) and the other to cast the 9th-level spell that you store into it.
Note that the 9th level spell that is cast into the glyph still has to follow all the restrictions laid out in the description of glyph of warding. Also note that Epic Boons are something entirely at a DM's discretion and only they can decide to bestow one on your character.
Wish
As always, the 9th-level spell wish can do anything you want it to
(DM permitting) as long as you are willing to accept the risk of never being able to cast wish again. So, you could wish for a 9th-level spell stored in whatever manner you wanted. And, barring any DM twisting of the wish you would be able to do so using only 1 9th-level slot.
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If anything, I'd think that it would go the other way around. Part of the point of this combo would be to make Wish glyphs, in an attempt to weasel around the "you cna never cast wish again" effect. Also, "Barring any DM twisting of the wish" is not a trivial bar to set, when you're trying to get two 9th level spell slots out of 1.
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– Ben Barden
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@BenBarden Just to be sure I'm understanding, when you say "go the other way around" are you talking about the order of my two parts? I think I agree with your other sentences, just confused about the first one.
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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I'm meaning to use the two-slot method to fit a WIsh into a Glyph of Warding. Then you let your fighter buddy trigger it and wish for whatever. Sure, it's possible that he'll forever lose the ability to cast Wish spells, but it's not as big a hit for him as it would be for you. Yes, this involves a decent helping of cheese... but there are DMs out there who would go for it.
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– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden I don't actually think that would work. The wizard has to fully cast the spell to put it in there. That means determining the wish ahead of time and suffering the stress if any is gained. The fighter can trigger the wish, but he can't control anything about it since he doesn't cast it, he is only targeted by it. So this doesn't really allow any way to avoid stress by my reading.
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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oh, on a tight reading of the rules I agree... but, like I said, there are DMs out there who would go for it.
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Boon of High Magic + glyph of warding
You assume in your question that there is no way to get 2 9th-level slots, but you can.
A 20th level wizard that the DM has granted a Boon of High Magic will be able to do this.
The Boon of High Magic says:
You gain one 9th level spell slot, provided you already have one.
Thus you would have 2 9th-level spell slots. One to cast glyph of warding at 9th-level (which then allows it to store a 9th-level spell) and the other to cast the 9th-level spell that you store into it.
Note that the 9th level spell that is cast into the glyph still has to follow all the restrictions laid out in the description of glyph of warding. Also note that Epic Boons are something entirely at a DM's discretion and only they can decide to bestow one on your character.
Wish
As always, the 9th-level spell wish can do anything you want it to
(DM permitting) as long as you are willing to accept the risk of never being able to cast wish again. So, you could wish for a 9th-level spell stored in whatever manner you wanted. And, barring any DM twisting of the wish you would be able to do so using only 1 9th-level slot.
answered 3 hours ago
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
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If anything, I'd think that it would go the other way around. Part of the point of this combo would be to make Wish glyphs, in an attempt to weasel around the "you cna never cast wish again" effect. Also, "Barring any DM twisting of the wish" is not a trivial bar to set, when you're trying to get two 9th level spell slots out of 1.
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– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden Just to be sure I'm understanding, when you say "go the other way around" are you talking about the order of my two parts? I think I agree with your other sentences, just confused about the first one.
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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I'm meaning to use the two-slot method to fit a WIsh into a Glyph of Warding. Then you let your fighter buddy trigger it and wish for whatever. Sure, it's possible that he'll forever lose the ability to cast Wish spells, but it's not as big a hit for him as it would be for you. Yes, this involves a decent helping of cheese... but there are DMs out there who would go for it.
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– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden I don't actually think that would work. The wizard has to fully cast the spell to put it in there. That means determining the wish ahead of time and suffering the stress if any is gained. The fighter can trigger the wish, but he can't control anything about it since he doesn't cast it, he is only targeted by it. So this doesn't really allow any way to avoid stress by my reading.
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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oh, on a tight reading of the rules I agree... but, like I said, there are DMs out there who would go for it.
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– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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show 1 more comment
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Boon of High Magic + glyph of warding
You assume in your question that there is no way to get 2 9th-level slots, but you can.
A 20th level wizard that the DM has granted a Boon of High Magic will be able to do this.
The Boon of High Magic says:
You gain one 9th level spell slot, provided you already have one.
Thus you would have 2 9th-level spell slots. One to cast glyph of warding at 9th-level (which then allows it to store a 9th-level spell) and the other to cast the 9th-level spell that you store into it.
Note that the 9th level spell that is cast into the glyph still has to follow all the restrictions laid out in the description of glyph of warding. Also note that Epic Boons are something entirely at a DM's discretion and only they can decide to bestow one on your character.
Wish
As always, the 9th-level spell wish can do anything you want it to
(DM permitting) as long as you are willing to accept the risk of never being able to cast wish again. So, you could wish for a 9th-level spell stored in whatever manner you wanted. And, barring any DM twisting of the wish you would be able to do so using only 1 9th-level slot.
answered 3 hours ago
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
56.6k9274424
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If anything, I'd think that it would go the other way around. Part of the point of this combo would be to make Wish glyphs, in an attempt to weasel around the "you cna never cast wish again" effect. Also, "Barring any DM twisting of the wish" is not a trivial bar to set, when you're trying to get two 9th level spell slots out of 1.
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– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden Just to be sure I'm understanding, when you say "go the other way around" are you talking about the order of my two parts? I think I agree with your other sentences, just confused about the first one.
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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I'm meaning to use the two-slot method to fit a WIsh into a Glyph of Warding. Then you let your fighter buddy trigger it and wish for whatever. Sure, it's possible that he'll forever lose the ability to cast Wish spells, but it's not as big a hit for him as it would be for you. Yes, this involves a decent helping of cheese... but there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden I don't actually think that would work. The wizard has to fully cast the spell to put it in there. That means determining the wish ahead of time and suffering the stress if any is gained. The fighter can trigger the wish, but he can't control anything about it since he doesn't cast it, he is only targeted by it. So this doesn't really allow any way to avoid stress by my reading.
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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oh, on a tight reading of the rules I agree... but, like I said, there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Boon of High Magic + glyph of warding
You assume in your question that there is no way to get 2 9th-level slots, but you can.
A 20th level wizard that the DM has granted a Boon of High Magic will be able to do this.
The Boon of High Magic says:
You gain one 9th level spell slot, provided you already have one.
Thus you would have 2 9th-level spell slots. One to cast glyph of warding at 9th-level (which then allows it to store a 9th-level spell) and the other to cast the 9th-level spell that you store into it.
Note that the 9th level spell that is cast into the glyph still has to follow all the restrictions laid out in the description of glyph of warding. Also note that Epic Boons are something entirely at a DM's discretion and only they can decide to bestow one on your character.
Wish
As always, the 9th-level spell wish can do anything you want it to
(DM permitting) as long as you are willing to accept the risk of never being able to cast wish again. So, you could wish for a 9th-level spell stored in whatever manner you wanted. And, barring any DM twisting of the wish you would be able to do so using only 1 9th-level slot.
answered 3 hours ago
RubiksmooseRubiksmoose
56.6k9274424
$endgroup$
Boon of High Magic + glyph of warding
You assume in your question that there is no way to get 2 9th-level slots, but you can.
A 20th level wizard that the DM has granted a Boon of High Magic will be able to do this.
The Boon of High Magic says:
You gain one 9th level spell slot, provided you already have one.
Thus you would have 2 9th-level spell slots. One to cast glyph of warding at 9th-level (which then allows it to store a 9th-level spell) and the other to cast the 9th-level spell that you store into it.
Note that the 9th level spell that is cast into the glyph still has to follow all the restrictions laid out in the description of glyph of warding. Also note that Epic Boons are something entirely at a DM's discretion and only they can decide to bestow one on your character.
Wish
As always, the 9th-level spell wish can do anything you want it to
(DM permitting) as long as you are willing to accept the risk of never being able to cast wish again. So, you could wish for a 9th-level spell stored in whatever manner you wanted. And, barring any DM twisting of the wish you would be able to do so using only 1 9th-level slot.
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If anything, I'd think that it would go the other way around. Part of the point of this combo would be to make Wish glyphs, in an attempt to weasel around the "you cna never cast wish again" effect. Also, "Barring any DM twisting of the wish" is not a trivial bar to set, when you're trying to get two 9th level spell slots out of 1.
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– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden Just to be sure I'm understanding, when you say "go the other way around" are you talking about the order of my two parts? I think I agree with your other sentences, just confused about the first one.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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I'm meaning to use the two-slot method to fit a WIsh into a Glyph of Warding. Then you let your fighter buddy trigger it and wish for whatever. Sure, it's possible that he'll forever lose the ability to cast Wish spells, but it's not as big a hit for him as it would be for you. Yes, this involves a decent helping of cheese... but there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden I don't actually think that would work. The wizard has to fully cast the spell to put it in there. That means determining the wish ahead of time and suffering the stress if any is gained. The fighter can trigger the wish, but he can't control anything about it since he doesn't cast it, he is only targeted by it. So this doesn't really allow any way to avoid stress by my reading.
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– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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oh, on a tight reading of the rules I agree... but, like I said, there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
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If anything, I'd think that it would go the other way around. Part of the point of this combo would be to make Wish glyphs, in an attempt to weasel around the "you cna never cast wish again" effect. Also, "Barring any DM twisting of the wish" is not a trivial bar to set, when you're trying to get two 9th level spell slots out of 1.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden Just to be sure I'm understanding, when you say "go the other way around" are you talking about the order of my two parts? I think I agree with your other sentences, just confused about the first one.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm meaning to use the two-slot method to fit a WIsh into a Glyph of Warding. Then you let your fighter buddy trigger it and wish for whatever. Sure, it's possible that he'll forever lose the ability to cast Wish spells, but it's not as big a hit for him as it would be for you. Yes, this involves a decent helping of cheese... but there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@BenBarden I don't actually think that would work. The wizard has to fully cast the spell to put it in there. That means determining the wish ahead of time and suffering the stress if any is gained. The fighter can trigger the wish, but he can't control anything about it since he doesn't cast it, he is only targeted by it. So this doesn't really allow any way to avoid stress by my reading.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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oh, on a tight reading of the rules I agree... but, like I said, there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
If anything, I'd think that it would go the other way around. Part of the point of this combo would be to make Wish glyphs, in an attempt to weasel around the "you cna never cast wish again" effect. Also, "Barring any DM twisting of the wish" is not a trivial bar to set, when you're trying to get two 9th level spell slots out of 1.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
If anything, I'd think that it would go the other way around. Part of the point of this combo would be to make Wish glyphs, in an attempt to weasel around the "you cna never cast wish again" effect. Also, "Barring any DM twisting of the wish" is not a trivial bar to set, when you're trying to get two 9th level spell slots out of 1.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@BenBarden Just to be sure I'm understanding, when you say "go the other way around" are you talking about the order of my two parts? I think I agree with your other sentences, just confused about the first one.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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@BenBarden Just to be sure I'm understanding, when you say "go the other way around" are you talking about the order of my two parts? I think I agree with your other sentences, just confused about the first one.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm meaning to use the two-slot method to fit a WIsh into a Glyph of Warding. Then you let your fighter buddy trigger it and wish for whatever. Sure, it's possible that he'll forever lose the ability to cast Wish spells, but it's not as big a hit for him as it would be for you. Yes, this involves a decent helping of cheese... but there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
I'm meaning to use the two-slot method to fit a WIsh into a Glyph of Warding. Then you let your fighter buddy trigger it and wish for whatever. Sure, it's possible that he'll forever lose the ability to cast Wish spells, but it's not as big a hit for him as it would be for you. Yes, this involves a decent helping of cheese... but there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@BenBarden I don't actually think that would work. The wizard has to fully cast the spell to put it in there. That means determining the wish ahead of time and suffering the stress if any is gained. The fighter can trigger the wish, but he can't control anything about it since he doesn't cast it, he is only targeted by it. So this doesn't really allow any way to avoid stress by my reading.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
@BenBarden I don't actually think that would work. The wizard has to fully cast the spell to put it in there. That means determining the wish ahead of time and suffering the stress if any is gained. The fighter can trigger the wish, but he can't control anything about it since he doesn't cast it, he is only targeted by it. So this doesn't really allow any way to avoid stress by my reading.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
2 hours ago
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oh, on a tight reading of the rules I agree... but, like I said, there are DMs out there who would go for it.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
2 hours ago
$begingroup$
oh, on a tight reading of the rules I agree... but, like I said, there are DMs out there who would go for it.
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– Ben Barden
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What are you actually trying to do?
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– Mark Wells
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Let us continue this discussion in chat.
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– Rubiksmoose
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