2019 Stack Overflow Moderator Election Q&A - Question Collection
Stack Overflow is scheduled for its eleventh election next week, March 4th. In connection with that, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary.
As we've been doing in previous years, we're collecting questions one week in advance.
Here's how it'll work:
Until the nomination phase, (so, until Monday, March 4th at 20:00:00Z UTC, or 3:00 pm EST on the same day, give or take some time to arrive), this question will be open to collect potential questions from the users of the site. Post answers to this question containing any questions you would like to ask the candidates. Please only post one question per answer.
We, the Community Team, will be providing a small selection of generic questions. The first two will be guaranteed to be included, the latter ones are if the community doesn't supply enough questions. This will be done in a single post, unlike the prior instruction.
If your question contains a link, please use the syntax of
[text](link)
, as that will make it easier for transcribing for the finished questionnaire.This is a perfect opportunity to voice questions that are specific to your community and issues that you are running into at currently.
Feel free to peruse the questionnaires from previous years: 2015, 2015 round two, 2016, 2017, 2018
At the start of the nomination phase, the Community Team will select up to 8 of the top voted questions submitted by the community provided in this thread, to use in addition to the aforementioned 2 guaranteed questions.
Once questions have been selected, a new question will be opened to host the actual questionnaire for the candidates, typically containing 10 questions in total.
This is not the only option that users have for gathering information on candidates. As a community, you are still free to, for example, hold a live chat session with your candidates to ask further questions, or perhaps clarifications from what is provided in the Q&A.
If you have any questions or feedback about this process, feel free to post as a comment here.
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Stack Overflow is scheduled for its eleventh election next week, March 4th. In connection with that, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary.
As we've been doing in previous years, we're collecting questions one week in advance.
Here's how it'll work:
Until the nomination phase, (so, until Monday, March 4th at 20:00:00Z UTC, or 3:00 pm EST on the same day, give or take some time to arrive), this question will be open to collect potential questions from the users of the site. Post answers to this question containing any questions you would like to ask the candidates. Please only post one question per answer.
We, the Community Team, will be providing a small selection of generic questions. The first two will be guaranteed to be included, the latter ones are if the community doesn't supply enough questions. This will be done in a single post, unlike the prior instruction.
If your question contains a link, please use the syntax of
[text](link)
, as that will make it easier for transcribing for the finished questionnaire.This is a perfect opportunity to voice questions that are specific to your community and issues that you are running into at currently.
Feel free to peruse the questionnaires from previous years: 2015, 2015 round two, 2016, 2017, 2018
At the start of the nomination phase, the Community Team will select up to 8 of the top voted questions submitted by the community provided in this thread, to use in addition to the aforementioned 2 guaranteed questions.
Once questions have been selected, a new question will be opened to host the actual questionnaire for the candidates, typically containing 10 questions in total.
This is not the only option that users have for gathering information on candidates. As a community, you are still free to, for example, hold a live chat session with your candidates to ask further questions, or perhaps clarifications from what is provided in the Q&A.
If you have any questions or feedback about this process, feel free to post as a comment here.
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Good luck to the future candidates!
– Bhargav Rao♦
4 hours ago
1
Are we adding mods to the diamond force, or covering for mods that have left or will leave their positions?
– yivi
4 hours ago
2
2 positions so probably just adding. 3 usually means a retirement
– Machavity
4 hours ago
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They never announce that until after the fact, @yivi.
– Josh Caswell
4 hours ago
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Stack Overflow is scheduled for its eleventh election next week, March 4th. In connection with that, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary.
As we've been doing in previous years, we're collecting questions one week in advance.
Here's how it'll work:
Until the nomination phase, (so, until Monday, March 4th at 20:00:00Z UTC, or 3:00 pm EST on the same day, give or take some time to arrive), this question will be open to collect potential questions from the users of the site. Post answers to this question containing any questions you would like to ask the candidates. Please only post one question per answer.
We, the Community Team, will be providing a small selection of generic questions. The first two will be guaranteed to be included, the latter ones are if the community doesn't supply enough questions. This will be done in a single post, unlike the prior instruction.
If your question contains a link, please use the syntax of
[text](link)
, as that will make it easier for transcribing for the finished questionnaire.This is a perfect opportunity to voice questions that are specific to your community and issues that you are running into at currently.
Feel free to peruse the questionnaires from previous years: 2015, 2015 round two, 2016, 2017, 2018
At the start of the nomination phase, the Community Team will select up to 8 of the top voted questions submitted by the community provided in this thread, to use in addition to the aforementioned 2 guaranteed questions.
Once questions have been selected, a new question will be opened to host the actual questionnaire for the candidates, typically containing 10 questions in total.
This is not the only option that users have for gathering information on candidates. As a community, you are still free to, for example, hold a live chat session with your candidates to ask further questions, or perhaps clarifications from what is provided in the Q&A.
If you have any questions or feedback about this process, feel free to post as a comment here.
discussion featured election
Stack Overflow is scheduled for its eleventh election next week, March 4th. In connection with that, we will be holding a Q&A with the candidates. This will be an opportunity for members of the community to pose questions to the candidates on the topic of moderation. Participation is completely voluntary.
As we've been doing in previous years, we're collecting questions one week in advance.
Here's how it'll work:
Until the nomination phase, (so, until Monday, March 4th at 20:00:00Z UTC, or 3:00 pm EST on the same day, give or take some time to arrive), this question will be open to collect potential questions from the users of the site. Post answers to this question containing any questions you would like to ask the candidates. Please only post one question per answer.
We, the Community Team, will be providing a small selection of generic questions. The first two will be guaranteed to be included, the latter ones are if the community doesn't supply enough questions. This will be done in a single post, unlike the prior instruction.
If your question contains a link, please use the syntax of
[text](link)
, as that will make it easier for transcribing for the finished questionnaire.This is a perfect opportunity to voice questions that are specific to your community and issues that you are running into at currently.
Feel free to peruse the questionnaires from previous years: 2015, 2015 round two, 2016, 2017, 2018
At the start of the nomination phase, the Community Team will select up to 8 of the top voted questions submitted by the community provided in this thread, to use in addition to the aforementioned 2 guaranteed questions.
Once questions have been selected, a new question will be opened to host the actual questionnaire for the candidates, typically containing 10 questions in total.
This is not the only option that users have for gathering information on candidates. As a community, you are still free to, for example, hold a live chat session with your candidates to ask further questions, or perhaps clarifications from what is provided in the Q&A.
If you have any questions or feedback about this process, feel free to post as a comment here.
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Grace Note♦Grace Note
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Good luck to the future candidates!
– Bhargav Rao♦
4 hours ago
1
Are we adding mods to the diamond force, or covering for mods that have left or will leave their positions?
– yivi
4 hours ago
2
2 positions so probably just adding. 3 usually means a retirement
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
They never announce that until after the fact, @yivi.
– Josh Caswell
4 hours ago
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6
Good luck to the future candidates!
– Bhargav Rao♦
4 hours ago
1
Are we adding mods to the diamond force, or covering for mods that have left or will leave their positions?
– yivi
4 hours ago
2
2 positions so probably just adding. 3 usually means a retirement
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
They never announce that until after the fact, @yivi.
– Josh Caswell
4 hours ago
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6
Good luck to the future candidates!
– Bhargav Rao♦
4 hours ago
Good luck to the future candidates!
– Bhargav Rao♦
4 hours ago
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1
Are we adding mods to the diamond force, or covering for mods that have left or will leave their positions?
– yivi
4 hours ago
Are we adding mods to the diamond force, or covering for mods that have left or will leave their positions?
– yivi
4 hours ago
2
2
2 positions so probably just adding. 3 usually means a retirement
– Machavity
4 hours ago
2 positions so probably just adding. 3 usually means a retirement
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
4
They never announce that until after the fact, @yivi.
– Josh Caswell
4 hours ago
They never announce that until after the fact, @yivi.
– Josh Caswell
4 hours ago
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There is a high rep user who is very active on the site. However they frequently use strong language in their comments. When you warned them, they replied stating that the questions are of low quality which is why they left those comments, and also they threaten to quit the site. After the warning, you realize that they still haven't stopped leaving similar comments. What steps will you take in order to bring the user on track? What if the comments were on meta instead of main?
11
That Won't happen again ...
– rene
4 hours ago
6
Wait a minute...
– Will
3 hours ago
2
So Bhargav, in a hypothetical response to this question, would the phrase containing the words, "...and don't let the door hit [you] on the way out" be something you'd consider "acceptable" or an ironic response?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
While I've wanted to write that as a reply to a moderator message numerous times in the past, @Makoto, it certainly comes off as rude and unfriendly. It certainly is something which we don't write in moderator messages. (Also it isn't nice to ask someone to be-nice, when you're not nice :p)
– Bhargav Rao♦
1 hour ago
Sure - I was half-joking. There are ways to respond to that in a manner one wishes to without using specific, somewhat aggressive phrases. If nothing else, if you do see responses using that kind of language, that'd give you some insight into how they'd handle those private moderator messages...
– Makoto
1 hour ago
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A new, low-rep user on meta asks a non-duplicate non-trivial on-topic question. For unclear reasons the question is met with down votes and a pile-on of comments from several commenters. The question gets closed, some comments get flagged.
You have a pretty good idea of what an answer to said question would look like.
What are your steps to turn this situation around while making sure all involved parties can walk away from this encounter unharmed?
what an answer to said question would look like — isn't it assumed that moderators don't usually have domain experience for any given question? Why is it important that the moderator have it in this case?
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster A mod is going to have some domain knowledge somewhere (they had to have asked a LOT of questions or answered questions somewhere). This question supposes that to be the case. To put this a different wayIf I can answer a Q as a mod, should I after it's been moderated by others?
– Machavity
3 hours ago
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@Shepmaster I'd fully expect a mod to have domain knowledge about the issues discussed on meta, even if they don't post here often. How are they going to moderate if they don't know the rules and norms of the community?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
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@StephenKennedy yep, that's what I completely skimmed over: on meta. Thanks!
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
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Here is a set of general questions, gathered as very common questions asked every election. As mentioned in the instructions, the first two questions are guaranteed to show up in the Q&A, while the others are if there aren't enough questions (or, if you like one enough, you may split it off as a separate answer for review within the community's 8).
- How would you deal with a user who produced a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?
- How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc a question that you feel shouldn't have been?
- In your opinion, what do moderators do?
- A diamond will be attached to everything you say and have said in the past, including questions, answers and comments. Everything you will do will be seen under a different light. How do you feel about that?
- In what way do you feel that being a moderator will make you more effective as opposed to simply reaching 10k or 20k rep?
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Write a Haiku poem that catches the essence of why you think it will be fun to handle 400 flags every day.
100 x day is probably already a good deed, but lets push it some
– Petter Friberg
4 hours ago
4
Flags are coming in, Brad Larson is not here now, Time to earn that hat
– Machavity
4 hours ago
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All the flags are gone / cleaning up the site is hard / but I love it so
– Wai Ha Lee
4 hours ago
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This looks like a joke at first, but it's actually a deceptively good question. Forces a short answer to a very important part of moderation here.
– Undo♦
4 hours ago
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@Undo When we're limited to 8 community questions, I'd rather not have this can-a-fish-climb-a-tree test as one of them. It'd be much better if it were just "describe succinctly why you think running for mod is a good idea" rather than assuming candidates 1) are good at writing poetry, or 2) doing this because it's fun.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
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You don't need to be good at writing poetry to write a Haiku @tyler... Also, a candidate can clearly start with "I am not good at poetry, so I will write down a paragraph about why I will not burn out while handling 400 flags per day:"
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao That just underscores the uselessness of posting this as one of the very limited number of questions to be presented to candidates.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@TylerH, I don't see it that way. It does seem like an important question. There are moderators who do burn out. Moderators on Microsoft forums suffer from PTSD. If a candidate cannot handle the pressure of being a moderator, then they probably shouldn't be standing for an election.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
Also, if a candidate is able to recognize the underlying question in this post, then I'm sure that that person would be able to understand most of the recent meta questions.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
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@BhargavRao I agree it's a useful question. The bad part is that it's imposing some silly restriction that serves as a distraction and might cause noise in the voting process all due to what's essentially a joke. "I like that guy's haiku better because <insert non-policy reason here>". if you wanna know why someone is running for moderator... just ask them why. I don't want to read haikus and I don't care about moderators' ability to write them.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
2
@TylerH, if the electorate are gullible enough to be misled by just a haiku, then they probably aren't good enough to take decisions. Also does removing this one question from the list prevent the candidates from adding witty sentences in their post? In fact, this would generalize them all by making everyone include something that is amusing to read. FWIW, I do prefer moderators who like to enjoy themselves while moderating, rather than just be a rule following robot. If it interests you, feel free to post a paraphrase of this answer in plain English.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
And regarding your edit, if you don't want to read haikus, then please don't. As I mentioned already, if the candidates prefer to add it as a paragraph, then they can. We are not forcing every candidate to write poems, nor are we deleting their posts just because they couldn't.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
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A chat room has taken to an undesirable topic. It's not clear that ban-hammers need to fly, but the conversation cannot continue as it is (it's just not something Stack Overflow chat was meant to discuss). A new user has entered the room and begins mass-flagging anything they consider bad and demanding the conversation stop by threatening more flags. Regulars in the room counter-flag the new user's threats. How would you handle this?
Just curious: Is this scenario purely hypothetical, or has it been known to happen before?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy Maybe not that extreme but this might give background
– rene
2 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy I loosely based it on this incident (I added a lot more drama to this Q), but there have been other incidents where chat got out of hand and moderators (or CMs) were needed.It's a roundabout way about asking what a potential mod would do with an unruly chat room.
– Machavity
2 hours ago
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An established user (>6 years tenure, >10k reputation) has a tendency to ask mediocre, at best, questions as of late. Their old questions/answers keeps their reputation up by a few upvotes a week; what would you do with their newest, not up to standard questions? The question ban won't kick in, what'd be your warning message, if any?
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Can you clarify what you mean by mediocre questions here? AFAIK there's no problem with 'mediocre' questions... what matters is whether they're on-topic. Why would a moderator need to do anything here? Not all questions can be great.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH The alleged problem emerges when that user can continue asking poor questions, whereas a newer user would have been question banned. It can be perceived as having double standards in favor of users who have collected a lot of reputation over time, usually in the days when the bar of quality was indeed lower.
– E_net4
3 hours ago
1
@E_net4 OK, well Adriaan didn't say "poor" questions. He said "mediocre". A mediocre question should have no problems... but should not be particularly interesting or remarkably well-researched, either. Again, clarification on that is needed, because there's no inherent problem with mediocre questions. Even if he meant "poor", instead, clarification is still needed. What about it is poor? The effort by the OP? The spelling and grammar? Or something worse like the lack of an MCVE or the fact that it's POB/Too Broad/a dupe?
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH It is known that some people uphold higher expectations from established users, so the phrasing here doesn't seem surprising to me. That is a fair distinction nonetheless.
– E_net4
2 hours ago
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Moderators are not selected because they are domain experts in certain tags, but it so happens that you are an expert in one such tag. You see that several members of the community have elected to close a question as a duplicate, but you see that the duplicates don't actually answer the question as stated, nor do they provide a useful signpost for the asker. How do you proceed?
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If you're active on Meta, can you point to some of your questions or answers which have been received poorly, and what information you've gleaned as a result of those discussions?
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In your own words, what role do diamond moderators play with the Welcoming drive, and what can be done to make that role more valuable for beginners and veterans alike?
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How effective are you with the tools you have at your disposal right now?
Please tell us: how many close votes and delete votes did you cast in the first two months of 2019? How many helpful flags did you raise, and how many reviews did you complete in each queue? What is your median for all of the above?
How would one find this information out? As far as I can tell I'd need to figure out how many pages to go back before I'm one year in the past, then multiply by the number of items per page.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee This year started just about 8 weeks ago, so not too much work. I'll clarify.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
@JoshCaswell Oops, misread. Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
How about "In January and February 2019, ....."? By the time the nominations are open it'll be March and it'll be the same 59 day period for every user.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
1
@WaiHaLee Fine with me.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
FWIW candidates already have a link to the reviews tab of their profile in the nomination user card, so we can already see how many reviews they've done in each queue. Them answering this question would save us one click per candidate each.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH That was Josh's point as well, which he deleted for some reason. Quoting myself for reference: "Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown."
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
Won't we get most of this information from the context of the "Moderation score"?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@TylerH - not all reviews show (for me, at least) in the 'all actions/reviews', such as those in the Low Quality Posts queue.
– Wai Ha Lee
2 hours ago
@Makoto Not really. That a) just counts rep and badges, thus missing several of the items I ask about and b) does not discern between recent activity and a candidates action of, say, years. For example, I still have 40/40 mod score, but this question would easliy expose my lack of commitment in recent times.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Sure, but I'm confused as to the value of it. Are you looking for someone who can handle flags, or is a robot? Help me paint a picture here.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@Makoto I'm looking for someone who is actually going to handle flags. Thus, I want to see they are using the tools they currently have available to at least a large extend. A lot of people could be good mods in the sense that they are able to correctly judge a flag, but well... If every single elected mod actually put in their 30 min a day, we probably would not be having an election right now.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Now whether the extra information that would come from this is worth one of the eight slots is a matter of opinion, of course. Votes will tell.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
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I'm not trying to be facetious, but I do maintain that we'll establish a decent amount from the "Moderator score" metric that comes out with candidates. I've found in the past that said score can leave a bad taste in my mouth with someone who does get elected but doesn't feel like a good moderator. I won't disagree that handling flags is important, but at the same time, I'm not convinced that numbers alone would tell us anything meaningful about how they handle those flags.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
@Makoto Well no, but this question is not about the quality of a candidates judgment, but strictly about the quantity. Other questions and metrics will focus on the former, and that's important. However, I'd prefer to give my vote to someone who is actually going to use their vetted judgment. Quantity matters, too.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
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A user habitually flags old comments as unfriendly. The comments are on the borderline of rude.
What do you do?
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Consider the case,
where a user flags an answer that appears to be spam,
because the post doesn't disclose the author's affiliation with a recommended non-free product.
The answer is a few years old and the author hasn't posted any similar answers (i.e. spam) since then.
The answered question itself appears to be off-topic (asking for an off-site resource).
How do you act on the flag, the answer, and the question?
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There is a high rep user who is very active on the site. However they frequently use strong language in their comments. When you warned them, they replied stating that the questions are of low quality which is why they left those comments, and also they threaten to quit the site. After the warning, you realize that they still haven't stopped leaving similar comments. What steps will you take in order to bring the user on track? What if the comments were on meta instead of main?
11
That Won't happen again ...
– rene
4 hours ago
6
Wait a minute...
– Will
3 hours ago
2
So Bhargav, in a hypothetical response to this question, would the phrase containing the words, "...and don't let the door hit [you] on the way out" be something you'd consider "acceptable" or an ironic response?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
While I've wanted to write that as a reply to a moderator message numerous times in the past, @Makoto, it certainly comes off as rude and unfriendly. It certainly is something which we don't write in moderator messages. (Also it isn't nice to ask someone to be-nice, when you're not nice :p)
– Bhargav Rao♦
1 hour ago
Sure - I was half-joking. There are ways to respond to that in a manner one wishes to without using specific, somewhat aggressive phrases. If nothing else, if you do see responses using that kind of language, that'd give you some insight into how they'd handle those private moderator messages...
– Makoto
1 hour ago
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There is a high rep user who is very active on the site. However they frequently use strong language in their comments. When you warned them, they replied stating that the questions are of low quality which is why they left those comments, and also they threaten to quit the site. After the warning, you realize that they still haven't stopped leaving similar comments. What steps will you take in order to bring the user on track? What if the comments were on meta instead of main?
11
That Won't happen again ...
– rene
4 hours ago
6
Wait a minute...
– Will
3 hours ago
2
So Bhargav, in a hypothetical response to this question, would the phrase containing the words, "...and don't let the door hit [you] on the way out" be something you'd consider "acceptable" or an ironic response?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
While I've wanted to write that as a reply to a moderator message numerous times in the past, @Makoto, it certainly comes off as rude and unfriendly. It certainly is something which we don't write in moderator messages. (Also it isn't nice to ask someone to be-nice, when you're not nice :p)
– Bhargav Rao♦
1 hour ago
Sure - I was half-joking. There are ways to respond to that in a manner one wishes to without using specific, somewhat aggressive phrases. If nothing else, if you do see responses using that kind of language, that'd give you some insight into how they'd handle those private moderator messages...
– Makoto
1 hour ago
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There is a high rep user who is very active on the site. However they frequently use strong language in their comments. When you warned them, they replied stating that the questions are of low quality which is why they left those comments, and also they threaten to quit the site. After the warning, you realize that they still haven't stopped leaving similar comments. What steps will you take in order to bring the user on track? What if the comments were on meta instead of main?
There is a high rep user who is very active on the site. However they frequently use strong language in their comments. When you warned them, they replied stating that the questions are of low quality which is why they left those comments, and also they threaten to quit the site. After the warning, you realize that they still haven't stopped leaving similar comments. What steps will you take in order to bring the user on track? What if the comments were on meta instead of main?
answered 4 hours ago
Bhargav Rao♦Bhargav Rao
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That Won't happen again ...
– rene
4 hours ago
6
Wait a minute...
– Will
3 hours ago
2
So Bhargav, in a hypothetical response to this question, would the phrase containing the words, "...and don't let the door hit [you] on the way out" be something you'd consider "acceptable" or an ironic response?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
While I've wanted to write that as a reply to a moderator message numerous times in the past, @Makoto, it certainly comes off as rude and unfriendly. It certainly is something which we don't write in moderator messages. (Also it isn't nice to ask someone to be-nice, when you're not nice :p)
– Bhargav Rao♦
1 hour ago
Sure - I was half-joking. There are ways to respond to that in a manner one wishes to without using specific, somewhat aggressive phrases. If nothing else, if you do see responses using that kind of language, that'd give you some insight into how they'd handle those private moderator messages...
– Makoto
1 hour ago
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11
That Won't happen again ...
– rene
4 hours ago
6
Wait a minute...
– Will
3 hours ago
2
So Bhargav, in a hypothetical response to this question, would the phrase containing the words, "...and don't let the door hit [you] on the way out" be something you'd consider "acceptable" or an ironic response?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
While I've wanted to write that as a reply to a moderator message numerous times in the past, @Makoto, it certainly comes off as rude and unfriendly. It certainly is something which we don't write in moderator messages. (Also it isn't nice to ask someone to be-nice, when you're not nice :p)
– Bhargav Rao♦
1 hour ago
Sure - I was half-joking. There are ways to respond to that in a manner one wishes to without using specific, somewhat aggressive phrases. If nothing else, if you do see responses using that kind of language, that'd give you some insight into how they'd handle those private moderator messages...
– Makoto
1 hour ago
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11
That Won't happen again ...
– rene
4 hours ago
That Won't happen again ...
– rene
4 hours ago
6
6
Wait a minute...
– Will
3 hours ago
Wait a minute...
– Will
3 hours ago
2
2
So Bhargav, in a hypothetical response to this question, would the phrase containing the words, "...and don't let the door hit [you] on the way out" be something you'd consider "acceptable" or an ironic response?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
So Bhargav, in a hypothetical response to this question, would the phrase containing the words, "...and don't let the door hit [you] on the way out" be something you'd consider "acceptable" or an ironic response?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
While I've wanted to write that as a reply to a moderator message numerous times in the past, @Makoto, it certainly comes off as rude and unfriendly. It certainly is something which we don't write in moderator messages. (Also it isn't nice to ask someone to be-nice, when you're not nice :p)
– Bhargav Rao♦
1 hour ago
While I've wanted to write that as a reply to a moderator message numerous times in the past, @Makoto, it certainly comes off as rude and unfriendly. It certainly is something which we don't write in moderator messages. (Also it isn't nice to ask someone to be-nice, when you're not nice :p)
– Bhargav Rao♦
1 hour ago
Sure - I was half-joking. There are ways to respond to that in a manner one wishes to without using specific, somewhat aggressive phrases. If nothing else, if you do see responses using that kind of language, that'd give you some insight into how they'd handle those private moderator messages...
– Makoto
1 hour ago
Sure - I was half-joking. There are ways to respond to that in a manner one wishes to without using specific, somewhat aggressive phrases. If nothing else, if you do see responses using that kind of language, that'd give you some insight into how they'd handle those private moderator messages...
– Makoto
1 hour ago
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A new, low-rep user on meta asks a non-duplicate non-trivial on-topic question. For unclear reasons the question is met with down votes and a pile-on of comments from several commenters. The question gets closed, some comments get flagged.
You have a pretty good idea of what an answer to said question would look like.
What are your steps to turn this situation around while making sure all involved parties can walk away from this encounter unharmed?
what an answer to said question would look like — isn't it assumed that moderators don't usually have domain experience for any given question? Why is it important that the moderator have it in this case?
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster A mod is going to have some domain knowledge somewhere (they had to have asked a LOT of questions or answered questions somewhere). This question supposes that to be the case. To put this a different wayIf I can answer a Q as a mod, should I after it's been moderated by others?
– Machavity
3 hours ago
7
@Shepmaster I'd fully expect a mod to have domain knowledge about the issues discussed on meta, even if they don't post here often. How are they going to moderate if they don't know the rules and norms of the community?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
1
@StephenKennedy yep, that's what I completely skimmed over: on meta. Thanks!
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
add a comment |
A new, low-rep user on meta asks a non-duplicate non-trivial on-topic question. For unclear reasons the question is met with down votes and a pile-on of comments from several commenters. The question gets closed, some comments get flagged.
You have a pretty good idea of what an answer to said question would look like.
What are your steps to turn this situation around while making sure all involved parties can walk away from this encounter unharmed?
what an answer to said question would look like — isn't it assumed that moderators don't usually have domain experience for any given question? Why is it important that the moderator have it in this case?
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster A mod is going to have some domain knowledge somewhere (they had to have asked a LOT of questions or answered questions somewhere). This question supposes that to be the case. To put this a different wayIf I can answer a Q as a mod, should I after it's been moderated by others?
– Machavity
3 hours ago
7
@Shepmaster I'd fully expect a mod to have domain knowledge about the issues discussed on meta, even if they don't post here often. How are they going to moderate if they don't know the rules and norms of the community?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
1
@StephenKennedy yep, that's what I completely skimmed over: on meta. Thanks!
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
add a comment |
A new, low-rep user on meta asks a non-duplicate non-trivial on-topic question. For unclear reasons the question is met with down votes and a pile-on of comments from several commenters. The question gets closed, some comments get flagged.
You have a pretty good idea of what an answer to said question would look like.
What are your steps to turn this situation around while making sure all involved parties can walk away from this encounter unharmed?
A new, low-rep user on meta asks a non-duplicate non-trivial on-topic question. For unclear reasons the question is met with down votes and a pile-on of comments from several commenters. The question gets closed, some comments get flagged.
You have a pretty good idea of what an answer to said question would look like.
What are your steps to turn this situation around while making sure all involved parties can walk away from this encounter unharmed?
edited 3 hours ago
Shepmaster
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answered 4 hours ago
renerene
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what an answer to said question would look like — isn't it assumed that moderators don't usually have domain experience for any given question? Why is it important that the moderator have it in this case?
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster A mod is going to have some domain knowledge somewhere (they had to have asked a LOT of questions or answered questions somewhere). This question supposes that to be the case. To put this a different wayIf I can answer a Q as a mod, should I after it's been moderated by others?
– Machavity
3 hours ago
7
@Shepmaster I'd fully expect a mod to have domain knowledge about the issues discussed on meta, even if they don't post here often. How are they going to moderate if they don't know the rules and norms of the community?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
1
@StephenKennedy yep, that's what I completely skimmed over: on meta. Thanks!
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
add a comment |
what an answer to said question would look like — isn't it assumed that moderators don't usually have domain experience for any given question? Why is it important that the moderator have it in this case?
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster A mod is going to have some domain knowledge somewhere (they had to have asked a LOT of questions or answered questions somewhere). This question supposes that to be the case. To put this a different wayIf I can answer a Q as a mod, should I after it's been moderated by others?
– Machavity
3 hours ago
7
@Shepmaster I'd fully expect a mod to have domain knowledge about the issues discussed on meta, even if they don't post here often. How are they going to moderate if they don't know the rules and norms of the community?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
1
@StephenKennedy yep, that's what I completely skimmed over: on meta. Thanks!
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
what an answer to said question would look like — isn't it assumed that moderators don't usually have domain experience for any given question? Why is it important that the moderator have it in this case?
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
what an answer to said question would look like — isn't it assumed that moderators don't usually have domain experience for any given question? Why is it important that the moderator have it in this case?
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster A mod is going to have some domain knowledge somewhere (they had to have asked a LOT of questions or answered questions somewhere). This question supposes that to be the case. To put this a different way
If I can answer a Q as a mod, should I after it's been moderated by others?
– Machavity
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster A mod is going to have some domain knowledge somewhere (they had to have asked a LOT of questions or answered questions somewhere). This question supposes that to be the case. To put this a different way
If I can answer a Q as a mod, should I after it's been moderated by others?
– Machavity
3 hours ago
7
7
@Shepmaster I'd fully expect a mod to have domain knowledge about the issues discussed on meta, even if they don't post here often. How are they going to moderate if they don't know the rules and norms of the community?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
@Shepmaster I'd fully expect a mod to have domain knowledge about the issues discussed on meta, even if they don't post here often. How are they going to moderate if they don't know the rules and norms of the community?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
1
1
@StephenKennedy yep, that's what I completely skimmed over: on meta. Thanks!
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
@StephenKennedy yep, that's what I completely skimmed over: on meta. Thanks!
– Shepmaster
3 hours ago
add a comment |
Here is a set of general questions, gathered as very common questions asked every election. As mentioned in the instructions, the first two questions are guaranteed to show up in the Q&A, while the others are if there aren't enough questions (or, if you like one enough, you may split it off as a separate answer for review within the community's 8).
- How would you deal with a user who produced a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?
- How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc a question that you feel shouldn't have been?
- In your opinion, what do moderators do?
- A diamond will be attached to everything you say and have said in the past, including questions, answers and comments. Everything you will do will be seen under a different light. How do you feel about that?
- In what way do you feel that being a moderator will make you more effective as opposed to simply reaching 10k or 20k rep?
add a comment |
Here is a set of general questions, gathered as very common questions asked every election. As mentioned in the instructions, the first two questions are guaranteed to show up in the Q&A, while the others are if there aren't enough questions (or, if you like one enough, you may split it off as a separate answer for review within the community's 8).
- How would you deal with a user who produced a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?
- How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc a question that you feel shouldn't have been?
- In your opinion, what do moderators do?
- A diamond will be attached to everything you say and have said in the past, including questions, answers and comments. Everything you will do will be seen under a different light. How do you feel about that?
- In what way do you feel that being a moderator will make you more effective as opposed to simply reaching 10k or 20k rep?
add a comment |
Here is a set of general questions, gathered as very common questions asked every election. As mentioned in the instructions, the first two questions are guaranteed to show up in the Q&A, while the others are if there aren't enough questions (or, if you like one enough, you may split it off as a separate answer for review within the community's 8).
- How would you deal with a user who produced a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?
- How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc a question that you feel shouldn't have been?
- In your opinion, what do moderators do?
- A diamond will be attached to everything you say and have said in the past, including questions, answers and comments. Everything you will do will be seen under a different light. How do you feel about that?
- In what way do you feel that being a moderator will make you more effective as opposed to simply reaching 10k or 20k rep?
Here is a set of general questions, gathered as very common questions asked every election. As mentioned in the instructions, the first two questions are guaranteed to show up in the Q&A, while the others are if there aren't enough questions (or, if you like one enough, you may split it off as a separate answer for review within the community's 8).
- How would you deal with a user who produced a steady stream of valuable answers, but tends to generate a large number of arguments/flags from comments?
- How would you handle a situation where another mod closed/deleted/etc a question that you feel shouldn't have been?
- In your opinion, what do moderators do?
- A diamond will be attached to everything you say and have said in the past, including questions, answers and comments. Everything you will do will be seen under a different light. How do you feel about that?
- In what way do you feel that being a moderator will make you more effective as opposed to simply reaching 10k or 20k rep?
answered 4 hours ago
Grace Note♦Grace Note
2,360165757
2,360165757
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add a comment |
Write a Haiku poem that catches the essence of why you think it will be fun to handle 400 flags every day.
100 x day is probably already a good deed, but lets push it some
– Petter Friberg
4 hours ago
4
Flags are coming in, Brad Larson is not here now, Time to earn that hat
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
All the flags are gone / cleaning up the site is hard / but I love it so
– Wai Ha Lee
4 hours ago
13
This looks like a joke at first, but it's actually a deceptively good question. Forces a short answer to a very important part of moderation here.
– Undo♦
4 hours ago
2
@Undo When we're limited to 8 community questions, I'd rather not have this can-a-fish-climb-a-tree test as one of them. It'd be much better if it were just "describe succinctly why you think running for mod is a good idea" rather than assuming candidates 1) are good at writing poetry, or 2) doing this because it's fun.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
4
You don't need to be good at writing poetry to write a Haiku @tyler... Also, a candidate can clearly start with "I am not good at poetry, so I will write down a paragraph about why I will not burn out while handling 400 flags per day:"
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao That just underscores the uselessness of posting this as one of the very limited number of questions to be presented to candidates.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@TylerH, I don't see it that way. It does seem like an important question. There are moderators who do burn out. Moderators on Microsoft forums suffer from PTSD. If a candidate cannot handle the pressure of being a moderator, then they probably shouldn't be standing for an election.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
Also, if a candidate is able to recognize the underlying question in this post, then I'm sure that that person would be able to understand most of the recent meta questions.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
1
@BhargavRao I agree it's a useful question. The bad part is that it's imposing some silly restriction that serves as a distraction and might cause noise in the voting process all due to what's essentially a joke. "I like that guy's haiku better because <insert non-policy reason here>". if you wanna know why someone is running for moderator... just ask them why. I don't want to read haikus and I don't care about moderators' ability to write them.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
2
@TylerH, if the electorate are gullible enough to be misled by just a haiku, then they probably aren't good enough to take decisions. Also does removing this one question from the list prevent the candidates from adding witty sentences in their post? In fact, this would generalize them all by making everyone include something that is amusing to read. FWIW, I do prefer moderators who like to enjoy themselves while moderating, rather than just be a rule following robot. If it interests you, feel free to post a paraphrase of this answer in plain English.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
And regarding your edit, if you don't want to read haikus, then please don't. As I mentioned already, if the candidates prefer to add it as a paragraph, then they can. We are not forcing every candidate to write poems, nor are we deleting their posts just because they couldn't.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Write a Haiku poem that catches the essence of why you think it will be fun to handle 400 flags every day.
100 x day is probably already a good deed, but lets push it some
– Petter Friberg
4 hours ago
4
Flags are coming in, Brad Larson is not here now, Time to earn that hat
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
All the flags are gone / cleaning up the site is hard / but I love it so
– Wai Ha Lee
4 hours ago
13
This looks like a joke at first, but it's actually a deceptively good question. Forces a short answer to a very important part of moderation here.
– Undo♦
4 hours ago
2
@Undo When we're limited to 8 community questions, I'd rather not have this can-a-fish-climb-a-tree test as one of them. It'd be much better if it were just "describe succinctly why you think running for mod is a good idea" rather than assuming candidates 1) are good at writing poetry, or 2) doing this because it's fun.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
4
You don't need to be good at writing poetry to write a Haiku @tyler... Also, a candidate can clearly start with "I am not good at poetry, so I will write down a paragraph about why I will not burn out while handling 400 flags per day:"
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao That just underscores the uselessness of posting this as one of the very limited number of questions to be presented to candidates.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@TylerH, I don't see it that way. It does seem like an important question. There are moderators who do burn out. Moderators on Microsoft forums suffer from PTSD. If a candidate cannot handle the pressure of being a moderator, then they probably shouldn't be standing for an election.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
Also, if a candidate is able to recognize the underlying question in this post, then I'm sure that that person would be able to understand most of the recent meta questions.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
1
@BhargavRao I agree it's a useful question. The bad part is that it's imposing some silly restriction that serves as a distraction and might cause noise in the voting process all due to what's essentially a joke. "I like that guy's haiku better because <insert non-policy reason here>". if you wanna know why someone is running for moderator... just ask them why. I don't want to read haikus and I don't care about moderators' ability to write them.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
2
@TylerH, if the electorate are gullible enough to be misled by just a haiku, then they probably aren't good enough to take decisions. Also does removing this one question from the list prevent the candidates from adding witty sentences in their post? In fact, this would generalize them all by making everyone include something that is amusing to read. FWIW, I do prefer moderators who like to enjoy themselves while moderating, rather than just be a rule following robot. If it interests you, feel free to post a paraphrase of this answer in plain English.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
And regarding your edit, if you don't want to read haikus, then please don't. As I mentioned already, if the candidates prefer to add it as a paragraph, then they can. We are not forcing every candidate to write poems, nor are we deleting their posts just because they couldn't.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Write a Haiku poem that catches the essence of why you think it will be fun to handle 400 flags every day.
Write a Haiku poem that catches the essence of why you think it will be fun to handle 400 flags every day.
edited 4 hours ago
Wai Ha Lee
5,9311829
5,9311829
answered 4 hours ago
Petter FribergPetter Friberg
16.1k33162
16.1k33162
100 x day is probably already a good deed, but lets push it some
– Petter Friberg
4 hours ago
4
Flags are coming in, Brad Larson is not here now, Time to earn that hat
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
All the flags are gone / cleaning up the site is hard / but I love it so
– Wai Ha Lee
4 hours ago
13
This looks like a joke at first, but it's actually a deceptively good question. Forces a short answer to a very important part of moderation here.
– Undo♦
4 hours ago
2
@Undo When we're limited to 8 community questions, I'd rather not have this can-a-fish-climb-a-tree test as one of them. It'd be much better if it were just "describe succinctly why you think running for mod is a good idea" rather than assuming candidates 1) are good at writing poetry, or 2) doing this because it's fun.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
4
You don't need to be good at writing poetry to write a Haiku @tyler... Also, a candidate can clearly start with "I am not good at poetry, so I will write down a paragraph about why I will not burn out while handling 400 flags per day:"
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao That just underscores the uselessness of posting this as one of the very limited number of questions to be presented to candidates.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@TylerH, I don't see it that way. It does seem like an important question. There are moderators who do burn out. Moderators on Microsoft forums suffer from PTSD. If a candidate cannot handle the pressure of being a moderator, then they probably shouldn't be standing for an election.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
Also, if a candidate is able to recognize the underlying question in this post, then I'm sure that that person would be able to understand most of the recent meta questions.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
1
@BhargavRao I agree it's a useful question. The bad part is that it's imposing some silly restriction that serves as a distraction and might cause noise in the voting process all due to what's essentially a joke. "I like that guy's haiku better because <insert non-policy reason here>". if you wanna know why someone is running for moderator... just ask them why. I don't want to read haikus and I don't care about moderators' ability to write them.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
2
@TylerH, if the electorate are gullible enough to be misled by just a haiku, then they probably aren't good enough to take decisions. Also does removing this one question from the list prevent the candidates from adding witty sentences in their post? In fact, this would generalize them all by making everyone include something that is amusing to read. FWIW, I do prefer moderators who like to enjoy themselves while moderating, rather than just be a rule following robot. If it interests you, feel free to post a paraphrase of this answer in plain English.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
And regarding your edit, if you don't want to read haikus, then please don't. As I mentioned already, if the candidates prefer to add it as a paragraph, then they can. We are not forcing every candidate to write poems, nor are we deleting their posts just because they couldn't.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
add a comment |
100 x day is probably already a good deed, but lets push it some
– Petter Friberg
4 hours ago
4
Flags are coming in, Brad Larson is not here now, Time to earn that hat
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
All the flags are gone / cleaning up the site is hard / but I love it so
– Wai Ha Lee
4 hours ago
13
This looks like a joke at first, but it's actually a deceptively good question. Forces a short answer to a very important part of moderation here.
– Undo♦
4 hours ago
2
@Undo When we're limited to 8 community questions, I'd rather not have this can-a-fish-climb-a-tree test as one of them. It'd be much better if it were just "describe succinctly why you think running for mod is a good idea" rather than assuming candidates 1) are good at writing poetry, or 2) doing this because it's fun.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
4
You don't need to be good at writing poetry to write a Haiku @tyler... Also, a candidate can clearly start with "I am not good at poetry, so I will write down a paragraph about why I will not burn out while handling 400 flags per day:"
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao That just underscores the uselessness of posting this as one of the very limited number of questions to be presented to candidates.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@TylerH, I don't see it that way. It does seem like an important question. There are moderators who do burn out. Moderators on Microsoft forums suffer from PTSD. If a candidate cannot handle the pressure of being a moderator, then they probably shouldn't be standing for an election.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
Also, if a candidate is able to recognize the underlying question in this post, then I'm sure that that person would be able to understand most of the recent meta questions.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
1
@BhargavRao I agree it's a useful question. The bad part is that it's imposing some silly restriction that serves as a distraction and might cause noise in the voting process all due to what's essentially a joke. "I like that guy's haiku better because <insert non-policy reason here>". if you wanna know why someone is running for moderator... just ask them why. I don't want to read haikus and I don't care about moderators' ability to write them.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
2
@TylerH, if the electorate are gullible enough to be misled by just a haiku, then they probably aren't good enough to take decisions. Also does removing this one question from the list prevent the candidates from adding witty sentences in their post? In fact, this would generalize them all by making everyone include something that is amusing to read. FWIW, I do prefer moderators who like to enjoy themselves while moderating, rather than just be a rule following robot. If it interests you, feel free to post a paraphrase of this answer in plain English.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
And regarding your edit, if you don't want to read haikus, then please don't. As I mentioned already, if the candidates prefer to add it as a paragraph, then they can. We are not forcing every candidate to write poems, nor are we deleting their posts just because they couldn't.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
100 x day is probably already a good deed, but lets push it some
– Petter Friberg
4 hours ago
100 x day is probably already a good deed, but lets push it some
– Petter Friberg
4 hours ago
4
4
Flags are coming in, Brad Larson is not here now, Time to earn that hat
– Machavity
4 hours ago
Flags are coming in, Brad Larson is not here now, Time to earn that hat
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
4
All the flags are gone / cleaning up the site is hard / but I love it so
– Wai Ha Lee
4 hours ago
All the flags are gone / cleaning up the site is hard / but I love it so
– Wai Ha Lee
4 hours ago
13
13
This looks like a joke at first, but it's actually a deceptively good question. Forces a short answer to a very important part of moderation here.
– Undo♦
4 hours ago
This looks like a joke at first, but it's actually a deceptively good question. Forces a short answer to a very important part of moderation here.
– Undo♦
4 hours ago
2
2
@Undo When we're limited to 8 community questions, I'd rather not have this can-a-fish-climb-a-tree test as one of them. It'd be much better if it were just "describe succinctly why you think running for mod is a good idea" rather than assuming candidates 1) are good at writing poetry, or 2) doing this because it's fun.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@Undo When we're limited to 8 community questions, I'd rather not have this can-a-fish-climb-a-tree test as one of them. It'd be much better if it were just "describe succinctly why you think running for mod is a good idea" rather than assuming candidates 1) are good at writing poetry, or 2) doing this because it's fun.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
4
4
You don't need to be good at writing poetry to write a Haiku @tyler... Also, a candidate can clearly start with "I am not good at poetry, so I will write down a paragraph about why I will not burn out while handling 400 flags per day:"
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
You don't need to be good at writing poetry to write a Haiku @tyler... Also, a candidate can clearly start with "I am not good at poetry, so I will write down a paragraph about why I will not burn out while handling 400 flags per day:"
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao That just underscores the uselessness of posting this as one of the very limited number of questions to be presented to candidates.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao That just underscores the uselessness of posting this as one of the very limited number of questions to be presented to candidates.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@TylerH, I don't see it that way. It does seem like an important question. There are moderators who do burn out. Moderators on Microsoft forums suffer from PTSD. If a candidate cannot handle the pressure of being a moderator, then they probably shouldn't be standing for an election.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@TylerH, I don't see it that way. It does seem like an important question. There are moderators who do burn out. Moderators on Microsoft forums suffer from PTSD. If a candidate cannot handle the pressure of being a moderator, then they probably shouldn't be standing for an election.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
Also, if a candidate is able to recognize the underlying question in this post, then I'm sure that that person would be able to understand most of the recent meta questions.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
Also, if a candidate is able to recognize the underlying question in this post, then I'm sure that that person would be able to understand most of the recent meta questions.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
1
1
@BhargavRao I agree it's a useful question. The bad part is that it's imposing some silly restriction that serves as a distraction and might cause noise in the voting process all due to what's essentially a joke. "I like that guy's haiku better because <insert non-policy reason here>". if you wanna know why someone is running for moderator... just ask them why. I don't want to read haikus and I don't care about moderators' ability to write them.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
@BhargavRao I agree it's a useful question. The bad part is that it's imposing some silly restriction that serves as a distraction and might cause noise in the voting process all due to what's essentially a joke. "I like that guy's haiku better because <insert non-policy reason here>". if you wanna know why someone is running for moderator... just ask them why. I don't want to read haikus and I don't care about moderators' ability to write them.
– TylerH
2 hours ago
2
2
@TylerH, if the electorate are gullible enough to be misled by just a haiku, then they probably aren't good enough to take decisions. Also does removing this one question from the list prevent the candidates from adding witty sentences in their post? In fact, this would generalize them all by making everyone include something that is amusing to read. FWIW, I do prefer moderators who like to enjoy themselves while moderating, rather than just be a rule following robot. If it interests you, feel free to post a paraphrase of this answer in plain English.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
@TylerH, if the electorate are gullible enough to be misled by just a haiku, then they probably aren't good enough to take decisions. Also does removing this one question from the list prevent the candidates from adding witty sentences in their post? In fact, this would generalize them all by making everyone include something that is amusing to read. FWIW, I do prefer moderators who like to enjoy themselves while moderating, rather than just be a rule following robot. If it interests you, feel free to post a paraphrase of this answer in plain English.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
And regarding your edit, if you don't want to read haikus, then please don't. As I mentioned already, if the candidates prefer to add it as a paragraph, then they can. We are not forcing every candidate to write poems, nor are we deleting their posts just because they couldn't.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
And regarding your edit, if you don't want to read haikus, then please don't. As I mentioned already, if the candidates prefer to add it as a paragraph, then they can. We are not forcing every candidate to write poems, nor are we deleting their posts just because they couldn't.
– Bhargav Rao♦
2 hours ago
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A chat room has taken to an undesirable topic. It's not clear that ban-hammers need to fly, but the conversation cannot continue as it is (it's just not something Stack Overflow chat was meant to discuss). A new user has entered the room and begins mass-flagging anything they consider bad and demanding the conversation stop by threatening more flags. Regulars in the room counter-flag the new user's threats. How would you handle this?
Just curious: Is this scenario purely hypothetical, or has it been known to happen before?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy Maybe not that extreme but this might give background
– rene
2 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy I loosely based it on this incident (I added a lot more drama to this Q), but there have been other incidents where chat got out of hand and moderators (or CMs) were needed.It's a roundabout way about asking what a potential mod would do with an unruly chat room.
– Machavity
2 hours ago
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A chat room has taken to an undesirable topic. It's not clear that ban-hammers need to fly, but the conversation cannot continue as it is (it's just not something Stack Overflow chat was meant to discuss). A new user has entered the room and begins mass-flagging anything they consider bad and demanding the conversation stop by threatening more flags. Regulars in the room counter-flag the new user's threats. How would you handle this?
Just curious: Is this scenario purely hypothetical, or has it been known to happen before?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy Maybe not that extreme but this might give background
– rene
2 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy I loosely based it on this incident (I added a lot more drama to this Q), but there have been other incidents where chat got out of hand and moderators (or CMs) were needed.It's a roundabout way about asking what a potential mod would do with an unruly chat room.
– Machavity
2 hours ago
add a comment |
A chat room has taken to an undesirable topic. It's not clear that ban-hammers need to fly, but the conversation cannot continue as it is (it's just not something Stack Overflow chat was meant to discuss). A new user has entered the room and begins mass-flagging anything they consider bad and demanding the conversation stop by threatening more flags. Regulars in the room counter-flag the new user's threats. How would you handle this?
A chat room has taken to an undesirable topic. It's not clear that ban-hammers need to fly, but the conversation cannot continue as it is (it's just not something Stack Overflow chat was meant to discuss). A new user has entered the room and begins mass-flagging anything they consider bad and demanding the conversation stop by threatening more flags. Regulars in the room counter-flag the new user's threats. How would you handle this?
edited 2 hours ago
answered 4 hours ago
MachavityMachavity
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Just curious: Is this scenario purely hypothetical, or has it been known to happen before?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy Maybe not that extreme but this might give background
– rene
2 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy I loosely based it on this incident (I added a lot more drama to this Q), but there have been other incidents where chat got out of hand and moderators (or CMs) were needed.It's a roundabout way about asking what a potential mod would do with an unruly chat room.
– Machavity
2 hours ago
add a comment |
Just curious: Is this scenario purely hypothetical, or has it been known to happen before?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy Maybe not that extreme but this might give background
– rene
2 hours ago
2
@StephenKennedy I loosely based it on this incident (I added a lot more drama to this Q), but there have been other incidents where chat got out of hand and moderators (or CMs) were needed.It's a roundabout way about asking what a potential mod would do with an unruly chat room.
– Machavity
2 hours ago
Just curious: Is this scenario purely hypothetical, or has it been known to happen before?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
Just curious: Is this scenario purely hypothetical, or has it been known to happen before?
– Stephen Kennedy
3 hours ago
2
2
@StephenKennedy Maybe not that extreme but this might give background
– rene
2 hours ago
@StephenKennedy Maybe not that extreme but this might give background
– rene
2 hours ago
2
2
@StephenKennedy I loosely based it on this incident (I added a lot more drama to this Q), but there have been other incidents where chat got out of hand and moderators (or CMs) were needed.It's a roundabout way about asking what a potential mod would do with an unruly chat room.
– Machavity
2 hours ago
@StephenKennedy I loosely based it on this incident (I added a lot more drama to this Q), but there have been other incidents where chat got out of hand and moderators (or CMs) were needed.It's a roundabout way about asking what a potential mod would do with an unruly chat room.
– Machavity
2 hours ago
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An established user (>6 years tenure, >10k reputation) has a tendency to ask mediocre, at best, questions as of late. Their old questions/answers keeps their reputation up by a few upvotes a week; what would you do with their newest, not up to standard questions? The question ban won't kick in, what'd be your warning message, if any?
1
Can you clarify what you mean by mediocre questions here? AFAIK there's no problem with 'mediocre' questions... what matters is whether they're on-topic. Why would a moderator need to do anything here? Not all questions can be great.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH The alleged problem emerges when that user can continue asking poor questions, whereas a newer user would have been question banned. It can be perceived as having double standards in favor of users who have collected a lot of reputation over time, usually in the days when the bar of quality was indeed lower.
– E_net4
3 hours ago
1
@E_net4 OK, well Adriaan didn't say "poor" questions. He said "mediocre". A mediocre question should have no problems... but should not be particularly interesting or remarkably well-researched, either. Again, clarification on that is needed, because there's no inherent problem with mediocre questions. Even if he meant "poor", instead, clarification is still needed. What about it is poor? The effort by the OP? The spelling and grammar? Or something worse like the lack of an MCVE or the fact that it's POB/Too Broad/a dupe?
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH It is known that some people uphold higher expectations from established users, so the phrasing here doesn't seem surprising to me. That is a fair distinction nonetheless.
– E_net4
2 hours ago
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An established user (>6 years tenure, >10k reputation) has a tendency to ask mediocre, at best, questions as of late. Their old questions/answers keeps their reputation up by a few upvotes a week; what would you do with their newest, not up to standard questions? The question ban won't kick in, what'd be your warning message, if any?
1
Can you clarify what you mean by mediocre questions here? AFAIK there's no problem with 'mediocre' questions... what matters is whether they're on-topic. Why would a moderator need to do anything here? Not all questions can be great.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH The alleged problem emerges when that user can continue asking poor questions, whereas a newer user would have been question banned. It can be perceived as having double standards in favor of users who have collected a lot of reputation over time, usually in the days when the bar of quality was indeed lower.
– E_net4
3 hours ago
1
@E_net4 OK, well Adriaan didn't say "poor" questions. He said "mediocre". A mediocre question should have no problems... but should not be particularly interesting or remarkably well-researched, either. Again, clarification on that is needed, because there's no inherent problem with mediocre questions. Even if he meant "poor", instead, clarification is still needed. What about it is poor? The effort by the OP? The spelling and grammar? Or something worse like the lack of an MCVE or the fact that it's POB/Too Broad/a dupe?
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH It is known that some people uphold higher expectations from established users, so the phrasing here doesn't seem surprising to me. That is a fair distinction nonetheless.
– E_net4
2 hours ago
add a comment |
An established user (>6 years tenure, >10k reputation) has a tendency to ask mediocre, at best, questions as of late. Their old questions/answers keeps their reputation up by a few upvotes a week; what would you do with their newest, not up to standard questions? The question ban won't kick in, what'd be your warning message, if any?
An established user (>6 years tenure, >10k reputation) has a tendency to ask mediocre, at best, questions as of late. Their old questions/answers keeps their reputation up by a few upvotes a week; what would you do with their newest, not up to standard questions? The question ban won't kick in, what'd be your warning message, if any?
answered 4 hours ago
AdriaanAdriaan
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Can you clarify what you mean by mediocre questions here? AFAIK there's no problem with 'mediocre' questions... what matters is whether they're on-topic. Why would a moderator need to do anything here? Not all questions can be great.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH The alleged problem emerges when that user can continue asking poor questions, whereas a newer user would have been question banned. It can be perceived as having double standards in favor of users who have collected a lot of reputation over time, usually in the days when the bar of quality was indeed lower.
– E_net4
3 hours ago
1
@E_net4 OK, well Adriaan didn't say "poor" questions. He said "mediocre". A mediocre question should have no problems... but should not be particularly interesting or remarkably well-researched, either. Again, clarification on that is needed, because there's no inherent problem with mediocre questions. Even if he meant "poor", instead, clarification is still needed. What about it is poor? The effort by the OP? The spelling and grammar? Or something worse like the lack of an MCVE or the fact that it's POB/Too Broad/a dupe?
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH It is known that some people uphold higher expectations from established users, so the phrasing here doesn't seem surprising to me. That is a fair distinction nonetheless.
– E_net4
2 hours ago
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1
Can you clarify what you mean by mediocre questions here? AFAIK there's no problem with 'mediocre' questions... what matters is whether they're on-topic. Why would a moderator need to do anything here? Not all questions can be great.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH The alleged problem emerges when that user can continue asking poor questions, whereas a newer user would have been question banned. It can be perceived as having double standards in favor of users who have collected a lot of reputation over time, usually in the days when the bar of quality was indeed lower.
– E_net4
3 hours ago
1
@E_net4 OK, well Adriaan didn't say "poor" questions. He said "mediocre". A mediocre question should have no problems... but should not be particularly interesting or remarkably well-researched, either. Again, clarification on that is needed, because there's no inherent problem with mediocre questions. Even if he meant "poor", instead, clarification is still needed. What about it is poor? The effort by the OP? The spelling and grammar? Or something worse like the lack of an MCVE or the fact that it's POB/Too Broad/a dupe?
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH It is known that some people uphold higher expectations from established users, so the phrasing here doesn't seem surprising to me. That is a fair distinction nonetheless.
– E_net4
2 hours ago
1
1
Can you clarify what you mean by mediocre questions here? AFAIK there's no problem with 'mediocre' questions... what matters is whether they're on-topic. Why would a moderator need to do anything here? Not all questions can be great.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
Can you clarify what you mean by mediocre questions here? AFAIK there's no problem with 'mediocre' questions... what matters is whether they're on-topic. Why would a moderator need to do anything here? Not all questions can be great.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH The alleged problem emerges when that user can continue asking poor questions, whereas a newer user would have been question banned. It can be perceived as having double standards in favor of users who have collected a lot of reputation over time, usually in the days when the bar of quality was indeed lower.
– E_net4
3 hours ago
@TylerH The alleged problem emerges when that user can continue asking poor questions, whereas a newer user would have been question banned. It can be perceived as having double standards in favor of users who have collected a lot of reputation over time, usually in the days when the bar of quality was indeed lower.
– E_net4
3 hours ago
1
1
@E_net4 OK, well Adriaan didn't say "poor" questions. He said "mediocre". A mediocre question should have no problems... but should not be particularly interesting or remarkably well-researched, either. Again, clarification on that is needed, because there's no inherent problem with mediocre questions. Even if he meant "poor", instead, clarification is still needed. What about it is poor? The effort by the OP? The spelling and grammar? Or something worse like the lack of an MCVE or the fact that it's POB/Too Broad/a dupe?
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@E_net4 OK, well Adriaan didn't say "poor" questions. He said "mediocre". A mediocre question should have no problems... but should not be particularly interesting or remarkably well-researched, either. Again, clarification on that is needed, because there's no inherent problem with mediocre questions. Even if he meant "poor", instead, clarification is still needed. What about it is poor? The effort by the OP? The spelling and grammar? Or something worse like the lack of an MCVE or the fact that it's POB/Too Broad/a dupe?
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH It is known that some people uphold higher expectations from established users, so the phrasing here doesn't seem surprising to me. That is a fair distinction nonetheless.
– E_net4
2 hours ago
@TylerH It is known that some people uphold higher expectations from established users, so the phrasing here doesn't seem surprising to me. That is a fair distinction nonetheless.
– E_net4
2 hours ago
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Moderators are not selected because they are domain experts in certain tags, but it so happens that you are an expert in one such tag. You see that several members of the community have elected to close a question as a duplicate, but you see that the duplicates don't actually answer the question as stated, nor do they provide a useful signpost for the asker. How do you proceed?
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Moderators are not selected because they are domain experts in certain tags, but it so happens that you are an expert in one such tag. You see that several members of the community have elected to close a question as a duplicate, but you see that the duplicates don't actually answer the question as stated, nor do they provide a useful signpost for the asker. How do you proceed?
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Moderators are not selected because they are domain experts in certain tags, but it so happens that you are an expert in one such tag. You see that several members of the community have elected to close a question as a duplicate, but you see that the duplicates don't actually answer the question as stated, nor do they provide a useful signpost for the asker. How do you proceed?
Moderators are not selected because they are domain experts in certain tags, but it so happens that you are an expert in one such tag. You see that several members of the community have elected to close a question as a duplicate, but you see that the duplicates don't actually answer the question as stated, nor do they provide a useful signpost for the asker. How do you proceed?
answered 2 hours ago
MakotoMakoto
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If you're active on Meta, can you point to some of your questions or answers which have been received poorly, and what information you've gleaned as a result of those discussions?
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If you're active on Meta, can you point to some of your questions or answers which have been received poorly, and what information you've gleaned as a result of those discussions?
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If you're active on Meta, can you point to some of your questions or answers which have been received poorly, and what information you've gleaned as a result of those discussions?
If you're active on Meta, can you point to some of your questions or answers which have been received poorly, and what information you've gleaned as a result of those discussions?
answered 2 hours ago
MakotoMakoto
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In your own words, what role do diamond moderators play with the Welcoming drive, and what can be done to make that role more valuable for beginners and veterans alike?
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In your own words, what role do diamond moderators play with the Welcoming drive, and what can be done to make that role more valuable for beginners and veterans alike?
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In your own words, what role do diamond moderators play with the Welcoming drive, and what can be done to make that role more valuable for beginners and veterans alike?
In your own words, what role do diamond moderators play with the Welcoming drive, and what can be done to make that role more valuable for beginners and veterans alike?
answered 2 hours ago
MakotoMakoto
82.2k76482750
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How effective are you with the tools you have at your disposal right now?
Please tell us: how many close votes and delete votes did you cast in the first two months of 2019? How many helpful flags did you raise, and how many reviews did you complete in each queue? What is your median for all of the above?
How would one find this information out? As far as I can tell I'd need to figure out how many pages to go back before I'm one year in the past, then multiply by the number of items per page.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee This year started just about 8 weeks ago, so not too much work. I'll clarify.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
@JoshCaswell Oops, misread. Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
How about "In January and February 2019, ....."? By the time the nominations are open it'll be March and it'll be the same 59 day period for every user.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
1
@WaiHaLee Fine with me.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
FWIW candidates already have a link to the reviews tab of their profile in the nomination user card, so we can already see how many reviews they've done in each queue. Them answering this question would save us one click per candidate each.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH That was Josh's point as well, which he deleted for some reason. Quoting myself for reference: "Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown."
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
Won't we get most of this information from the context of the "Moderation score"?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@TylerH - not all reviews show (for me, at least) in the 'all actions/reviews', such as those in the Low Quality Posts queue.
– Wai Ha Lee
2 hours ago
@Makoto Not really. That a) just counts rep and badges, thus missing several of the items I ask about and b) does not discern between recent activity and a candidates action of, say, years. For example, I still have 40/40 mod score, but this question would easliy expose my lack of commitment in recent times.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Sure, but I'm confused as to the value of it. Are you looking for someone who can handle flags, or is a robot? Help me paint a picture here.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@Makoto I'm looking for someone who is actually going to handle flags. Thus, I want to see they are using the tools they currently have available to at least a large extend. A lot of people could be good mods in the sense that they are able to correctly judge a flag, but well... If every single elected mod actually put in their 30 min a day, we probably would not be having an election right now.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Now whether the extra information that would come from this is worth one of the eight slots is a matter of opinion, of course. Votes will tell.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
2
I'm not trying to be facetious, but I do maintain that we'll establish a decent amount from the "Moderator score" metric that comes out with candidates. I've found in the past that said score can leave a bad taste in my mouth with someone who does get elected but doesn't feel like a good moderator. I won't disagree that handling flags is important, but at the same time, I'm not convinced that numbers alone would tell us anything meaningful about how they handle those flags.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
@Makoto Well no, but this question is not about the quality of a candidates judgment, but strictly about the quantity. Other questions and metrics will focus on the former, and that's important. However, I'd prefer to give my vote to someone who is actually going to use their vetted judgment. Quantity matters, too.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
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How effective are you with the tools you have at your disposal right now?
Please tell us: how many close votes and delete votes did you cast in the first two months of 2019? How many helpful flags did you raise, and how many reviews did you complete in each queue? What is your median for all of the above?
How would one find this information out? As far as I can tell I'd need to figure out how many pages to go back before I'm one year in the past, then multiply by the number of items per page.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee This year started just about 8 weeks ago, so not too much work. I'll clarify.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
@JoshCaswell Oops, misread. Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
How about "In January and February 2019, ....."? By the time the nominations are open it'll be March and it'll be the same 59 day period for every user.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
1
@WaiHaLee Fine with me.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
FWIW candidates already have a link to the reviews tab of their profile in the nomination user card, so we can already see how many reviews they've done in each queue. Them answering this question would save us one click per candidate each.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH That was Josh's point as well, which he deleted for some reason. Quoting myself for reference: "Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown."
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
Won't we get most of this information from the context of the "Moderation score"?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@TylerH - not all reviews show (for me, at least) in the 'all actions/reviews', such as those in the Low Quality Posts queue.
– Wai Ha Lee
2 hours ago
@Makoto Not really. That a) just counts rep and badges, thus missing several of the items I ask about and b) does not discern between recent activity and a candidates action of, say, years. For example, I still have 40/40 mod score, but this question would easliy expose my lack of commitment in recent times.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Sure, but I'm confused as to the value of it. Are you looking for someone who can handle flags, or is a robot? Help me paint a picture here.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@Makoto I'm looking for someone who is actually going to handle flags. Thus, I want to see they are using the tools they currently have available to at least a large extend. A lot of people could be good mods in the sense that they are able to correctly judge a flag, but well... If every single elected mod actually put in their 30 min a day, we probably would not be having an election right now.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Now whether the extra information that would come from this is worth one of the eight slots is a matter of opinion, of course. Votes will tell.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
2
I'm not trying to be facetious, but I do maintain that we'll establish a decent amount from the "Moderator score" metric that comes out with candidates. I've found in the past that said score can leave a bad taste in my mouth with someone who does get elected but doesn't feel like a good moderator. I won't disagree that handling flags is important, but at the same time, I'm not convinced that numbers alone would tell us anything meaningful about how they handle those flags.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
@Makoto Well no, but this question is not about the quality of a candidates judgment, but strictly about the quantity. Other questions and metrics will focus on the former, and that's important. However, I'd prefer to give my vote to someone who is actually going to use their vetted judgment. Quantity matters, too.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
add a comment |
How effective are you with the tools you have at your disposal right now?
Please tell us: how many close votes and delete votes did you cast in the first two months of 2019? How many helpful flags did you raise, and how many reviews did you complete in each queue? What is your median for all of the above?
How effective are you with the tools you have at your disposal right now?
Please tell us: how many close votes and delete votes did you cast in the first two months of 2019? How many helpful flags did you raise, and how many reviews did you complete in each queue? What is your median for all of the above?
edited 3 hours ago
answered 4 hours ago
Baum mit AugenBaum mit Augen
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How would one find this information out? As far as I can tell I'd need to figure out how many pages to go back before I'm one year in the past, then multiply by the number of items per page.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee This year started just about 8 weeks ago, so not too much work. I'll clarify.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
@JoshCaswell Oops, misread. Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
How about "In January and February 2019, ....."? By the time the nominations are open it'll be March and it'll be the same 59 day period for every user.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
1
@WaiHaLee Fine with me.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
FWIW candidates already have a link to the reviews tab of their profile in the nomination user card, so we can already see how many reviews they've done in each queue. Them answering this question would save us one click per candidate each.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH That was Josh's point as well, which he deleted for some reason. Quoting myself for reference: "Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown."
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
Won't we get most of this information from the context of the "Moderation score"?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@TylerH - not all reviews show (for me, at least) in the 'all actions/reviews', such as those in the Low Quality Posts queue.
– Wai Ha Lee
2 hours ago
@Makoto Not really. That a) just counts rep and badges, thus missing several of the items I ask about and b) does not discern between recent activity and a candidates action of, say, years. For example, I still have 40/40 mod score, but this question would easliy expose my lack of commitment in recent times.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Sure, but I'm confused as to the value of it. Are you looking for someone who can handle flags, or is a robot? Help me paint a picture here.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
@Makoto I'm looking for someone who is actually going to handle flags. Thus, I want to see they are using the tools they currently have available to at least a large extend. A lot of people could be good mods in the sense that they are able to correctly judge a flag, but well... If every single elected mod actually put in their 30 min a day, we probably would not be having an election right now.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Now whether the extra information that would come from this is worth one of the eight slots is a matter of opinion, of course. Votes will tell.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
2
I'm not trying to be facetious, but I do maintain that we'll establish a decent amount from the "Moderator score" metric that comes out with candidates. I've found in the past that said score can leave a bad taste in my mouth with someone who does get elected but doesn't feel like a good moderator. I won't disagree that handling flags is important, but at the same time, I'm not convinced that numbers alone would tell us anything meaningful about how they handle those flags.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
@Makoto Well no, but this question is not about the quality of a candidates judgment, but strictly about the quantity. Other questions and metrics will focus on the former, and that's important. However, I'd prefer to give my vote to someone who is actually going to use their vetted judgment. Quantity matters, too.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
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How would one find this information out? As far as I can tell I'd need to figure out how many pages to go back before I'm one year in the past, then multiply by the number of items per page.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee This year started just about 8 weeks ago, so not too much work. I'll clarify.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
@JoshCaswell Oops, misread. Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
1
How about "In January and February 2019, ....."? By the time the nominations are open it'll be March and it'll be the same 59 day period for every user.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
1
@WaiHaLee Fine with me.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
FWIW candidates already have a link to the reviews tab of their profile in the nomination user card, so we can already see how many reviews they've done in each queue. Them answering this question would save us one click per candidate each.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH That was Josh's point as well, which he deleted for some reason. Quoting myself for reference: "Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown."
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
Won't we get most of this information from the context of the "Moderation score"?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
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@TylerH - not all reviews show (for me, at least) in the 'all actions/reviews', such as those in the Low Quality Posts queue.
– Wai Ha Lee
2 hours ago
@Makoto Not really. That a) just counts rep and badges, thus missing several of the items I ask about and b) does not discern between recent activity and a candidates action of, say, years. For example, I still have 40/40 mod score, but this question would easliy expose my lack of commitment in recent times.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Sure, but I'm confused as to the value of it. Are you looking for someone who can handle flags, or is a robot? Help me paint a picture here.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
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@Makoto I'm looking for someone who is actually going to handle flags. Thus, I want to see they are using the tools they currently have available to at least a large extend. A lot of people could be good mods in the sense that they are able to correctly judge a flag, but well... If every single elected mod actually put in their 30 min a day, we probably would not be having an election right now.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Now whether the extra information that would come from this is worth one of the eight slots is a matter of opinion, of course. Votes will tell.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
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I'm not trying to be facetious, but I do maintain that we'll establish a decent amount from the "Moderator score" metric that comes out with candidates. I've found in the past that said score can leave a bad taste in my mouth with someone who does get elected but doesn't feel like a good moderator. I won't disagree that handling flags is important, but at the same time, I'm not convinced that numbers alone would tell us anything meaningful about how they handle those flags.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
@Makoto Well no, but this question is not about the quality of a candidates judgment, but strictly about the quantity. Other questions and metrics will focus on the former, and that's important. However, I'd prefer to give my vote to someone who is actually going to use their vetted judgment. Quantity matters, too.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
How would one find this information out? As far as I can tell I'd need to figure out how many pages to go back before I'm one year in the past, then multiply by the number of items per page.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
How would one find this information out? As far as I can tell I'd need to figure out how many pages to go back before I'm one year in the past, then multiply by the number of items per page.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee This year started just about 8 weeks ago, so not too much work. I'll clarify.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee This year started just about 8 weeks ago, so not too much work. I'll clarify.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
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@JoshCaswell Oops, misread. Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
@JoshCaswell Oops, misread. Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
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How about "In January and February 2019, ....."? By the time the nominations are open it'll be March and it'll be the same 59 day period for every user.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
How about "In January and February 2019, ....."? By the time the nominations are open it'll be March and it'll be the same 59 day period for every user.
– Wai Ha Lee
3 hours ago
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@WaiHaLee Fine with me.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
@WaiHaLee Fine with me.
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
FWIW candidates already have a link to the reviews tab of their profile in the nomination user card, so we can already see how many reviews they've done in each queue. Them answering this question would save us one click per candidate each.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
FWIW candidates already have a link to the reviews tab of their profile in the nomination user card, so we can already see how many reviews they've done in each queue. Them answering this question would save us one click per candidate each.
– TylerH
3 hours ago
@TylerH That was Josh's point as well, which he deleted for some reason. Quoting myself for reference: "Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown."
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
@TylerH That was Josh's point as well, which he deleted for some reason. Quoting myself for reference: "Some totals are presented, but some actions on deleted items are not visible for example. I'm asking for a clearer, more detailed breakdown."
– Baum mit Augen
3 hours ago
Won't we get most of this information from the context of the "Moderation score"?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
Won't we get most of this information from the context of the "Moderation score"?
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
1
@TylerH - not all reviews show (for me, at least) in the 'all actions/reviews', such as those in the Low Quality Posts queue.
– Wai Ha Lee
2 hours ago
@TylerH - not all reviews show (for me, at least) in the 'all actions/reviews', such as those in the Low Quality Posts queue.
– Wai Ha Lee
2 hours ago
@Makoto Not really. That a) just counts rep and badges, thus missing several of the items I ask about and b) does not discern between recent activity and a candidates action of, say, years. For example, I still have 40/40 mod score, but this question would easliy expose my lack of commitment in recent times.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
@Makoto Not really. That a) just counts rep and badges, thus missing several of the items I ask about and b) does not discern between recent activity and a candidates action of, say, years. For example, I still have 40/40 mod score, but this question would easliy expose my lack of commitment in recent times.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Sure, but I'm confused as to the value of it. Are you looking for someone who can handle flags, or is a robot? Help me paint a picture here.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
Sure, but I'm confused as to the value of it. Are you looking for someone who can handle flags, or is a robot? Help me paint a picture here.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
1
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@Makoto I'm looking for someone who is actually going to handle flags. Thus, I want to see they are using the tools they currently have available to at least a large extend. A lot of people could be good mods in the sense that they are able to correctly judge a flag, but well... If every single elected mod actually put in their 30 min a day, we probably would not be having an election right now.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
@Makoto I'm looking for someone who is actually going to handle flags. Thus, I want to see they are using the tools they currently have available to at least a large extend. A lot of people could be good mods in the sense that they are able to correctly judge a flag, but well... If every single elected mod actually put in their 30 min a day, we probably would not be having an election right now.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Now whether the extra information that would come from this is worth one of the eight slots is a matter of opinion, of course. Votes will tell.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
Now whether the extra information that would come from this is worth one of the eight slots is a matter of opinion, of course. Votes will tell.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
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2
I'm not trying to be facetious, but I do maintain that we'll establish a decent amount from the "Moderator score" metric that comes out with candidates. I've found in the past that said score can leave a bad taste in my mouth with someone who does get elected but doesn't feel like a good moderator. I won't disagree that handling flags is important, but at the same time, I'm not convinced that numbers alone would tell us anything meaningful about how they handle those flags.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
I'm not trying to be facetious, but I do maintain that we'll establish a decent amount from the "Moderator score" metric that comes out with candidates. I've found in the past that said score can leave a bad taste in my mouth with someone who does get elected but doesn't feel like a good moderator. I won't disagree that handling flags is important, but at the same time, I'm not convinced that numbers alone would tell us anything meaningful about how they handle those flags.
– Makoto
2 hours ago
@Makoto Well no, but this question is not about the quality of a candidates judgment, but strictly about the quantity. Other questions and metrics will focus on the former, and that's important. However, I'd prefer to give my vote to someone who is actually going to use their vetted judgment. Quantity matters, too.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
@Makoto Well no, but this question is not about the quality of a candidates judgment, but strictly about the quantity. Other questions and metrics will focus on the former, and that's important. However, I'd prefer to give my vote to someone who is actually going to use their vetted judgment. Quantity matters, too.
– Baum mit Augen
2 hours ago
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A user habitually flags old comments as unfriendly. The comments are on the borderline of rude.
What do you do?
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A user habitually flags old comments as unfriendly. The comments are on the borderline of rude.
What do you do?
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A user habitually flags old comments as unfriendly. The comments are on the borderline of rude.
What do you do?
A user habitually flags old comments as unfriendly. The comments are on the borderline of rude.
What do you do?
answered 24 mins ago
Yvette Colomb♦Yvette Colomb
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Consider the case,
where a user flags an answer that appears to be spam,
because the post doesn't disclose the author's affiliation with a recommended non-free product.
The answer is a few years old and the author hasn't posted any similar answers (i.e. spam) since then.
The answered question itself appears to be off-topic (asking for an off-site resource).
How do you act on the flag, the answer, and the question?
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Consider the case,
where a user flags an answer that appears to be spam,
because the post doesn't disclose the author's affiliation with a recommended non-free product.
The answer is a few years old and the author hasn't posted any similar answers (i.e. spam) since then.
The answered question itself appears to be off-topic (asking for an off-site resource).
How do you act on the flag, the answer, and the question?
add a comment |
Consider the case,
where a user flags an answer that appears to be spam,
because the post doesn't disclose the author's affiliation with a recommended non-free product.
The answer is a few years old and the author hasn't posted any similar answers (i.e. spam) since then.
The answered question itself appears to be off-topic (asking for an off-site resource).
How do you act on the flag, the answer, and the question?
Consider the case,
where a user flags an answer that appears to be spam,
because the post doesn't disclose the author's affiliation with a recommended non-free product.
The answer is a few years old and the author hasn't posted any similar answers (i.e. spam) since then.
The answered question itself appears to be off-topic (asking for an off-site resource).
How do you act on the flag, the answer, and the question?
answered 4 hours ago
honkhonk
4,86742942
4,86742942
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Good luck to the future candidates!
– Bhargav Rao♦
4 hours ago
1
Are we adding mods to the diamond force, or covering for mods that have left or will leave their positions?
– yivi
4 hours ago
2
2 positions so probably just adding. 3 usually means a retirement
– Machavity
4 hours ago
4
They never announce that until after the fact, @yivi.
– Josh Caswell
4 hours ago