Can I carry a bead of delayed blast fireball in a flask and then throw it?












9












$begingroup$


Let's say I am a sorcerer with extended spell metamagic available, and I choose to cast a delayed blast fireball with 10 sorcery points, which yields a 17h fireball (and more than 10000d6 damage on failed save if left for full duration). I cast it on a flask and close it, so it would not count as being touched. A couple of questions:




  1. Can I carry it?

  2. Can I throw it?










share|improve this question









New contributor




Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    Related: Can Catapult be used on Delayed Blast Fireball? and What is the point of the throwing mechanic in Delayed Blast Fireball?
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, that would be correct. 2^10 = 1024 minutes, which would create this small nuclear explosion in my pocket.
    $endgroup$
    – Ricardo
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The question itself ("can the bead be sealed in a container to prevent it from prematurely exploding") is valid, but according to the 5e rules for Metamagic, only one instance of a metamagic (including Extended Spell) may be used on a spell at a time, unless the specific Metamagic says otherwise. This is supported by posts made on this site: Can you use Extended Spell Metamagic more than Once? You may want to avoid distracting readers with what is either a misinterpretation of the rules, or a homerule that doesn't apply in normal play.
    $endgroup$
    – Xirema
    3 hours ago








  • 3




    $begingroup$
    @Xirema: correcting misconceptions is still something that is the job for an answer (And both answers so far have done so). I don't think a question correction is needed.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago
















9












$begingroup$


Let's say I am a sorcerer with extended spell metamagic available, and I choose to cast a delayed blast fireball with 10 sorcery points, which yields a 17h fireball (and more than 10000d6 damage on failed save if left for full duration). I cast it on a flask and close it, so it would not count as being touched. A couple of questions:




  1. Can I carry it?

  2. Can I throw it?










share|improve this question









New contributor




Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$












  • $begingroup$
    Related: Can Catapult be used on Delayed Blast Fireball? and What is the point of the throwing mechanic in Delayed Blast Fireball?
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, that would be correct. 2^10 = 1024 minutes, which would create this small nuclear explosion in my pocket.
    $endgroup$
    – Ricardo
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The question itself ("can the bead be sealed in a container to prevent it from prematurely exploding") is valid, but according to the 5e rules for Metamagic, only one instance of a metamagic (including Extended Spell) may be used on a spell at a time, unless the specific Metamagic says otherwise. This is supported by posts made on this site: Can you use Extended Spell Metamagic more than Once? You may want to avoid distracting readers with what is either a misinterpretation of the rules, or a homerule that doesn't apply in normal play.
    $endgroup$
    – Xirema
    3 hours ago








  • 3




    $begingroup$
    @Xirema: correcting misconceptions is still something that is the job for an answer (And both answers so far have done so). I don't think a question correction is needed.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago














9












9








9





$begingroup$


Let's say I am a sorcerer with extended spell metamagic available, and I choose to cast a delayed blast fireball with 10 sorcery points, which yields a 17h fireball (and more than 10000d6 damage on failed save if left for full duration). I cast it on a flask and close it, so it would not count as being touched. A couple of questions:




  1. Can I carry it?

  2. Can I throw it?










share|improve this question









New contributor




Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.







$endgroup$




Let's say I am a sorcerer with extended spell metamagic available, and I choose to cast a delayed blast fireball with 10 sorcery points, which yields a 17h fireball (and more than 10000d6 damage on failed save if left for full duration). I cast it on a flask and close it, so it would not count as being touched. A couple of questions:




  1. Can I carry it?

  2. Can I throw it?







dnd-5e spells metamagic






share|improve this question









New contributor




Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.











share|improve this question









New contributor




Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited 3 hours ago









Rubiksmoose

54.2k9265408




54.2k9265408






New contributor




Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.









asked 3 hours ago









RicardoRicardo

462




462




New contributor




Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.





New contributor





Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.






Ricardo is a new contributor to this site. Take care in asking for clarification, commenting, and answering.
Check out our Code of Conduct.












  • $begingroup$
    Related: Can Catapult be used on Delayed Blast Fireball? and What is the point of the throwing mechanic in Delayed Blast Fireball?
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, that would be correct. 2^10 = 1024 minutes, which would create this small nuclear explosion in my pocket.
    $endgroup$
    – Ricardo
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The question itself ("can the bead be sealed in a container to prevent it from prematurely exploding") is valid, but according to the 5e rules for Metamagic, only one instance of a metamagic (including Extended Spell) may be used on a spell at a time, unless the specific Metamagic says otherwise. This is supported by posts made on this site: Can you use Extended Spell Metamagic more than Once? You may want to avoid distracting readers with what is either a misinterpretation of the rules, or a homerule that doesn't apply in normal play.
    $endgroup$
    – Xirema
    3 hours ago








  • 3




    $begingroup$
    @Xirema: correcting misconceptions is still something that is the job for an answer (And both answers so far have done so). I don't think a question correction is needed.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago


















  • $begingroup$
    Related: Can Catapult be used on Delayed Blast Fireball? and What is the point of the throwing mechanic in Delayed Blast Fireball?
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, that would be correct. 2^10 = 1024 minutes, which would create this small nuclear explosion in my pocket.
    $endgroup$
    – Ricardo
    3 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The question itself ("can the bead be sealed in a container to prevent it from prematurely exploding") is valid, but according to the 5e rules for Metamagic, only one instance of a metamagic (including Extended Spell) may be used on a spell at a time, unless the specific Metamagic says otherwise. This is supported by posts made on this site: Can you use Extended Spell Metamagic more than Once? You may want to avoid distracting readers with what is either a misinterpretation of the rules, or a homerule that doesn't apply in normal play.
    $endgroup$
    – Xirema
    3 hours ago








  • 3




    $begingroup$
    @Xirema: correcting misconceptions is still something that is the job for an answer (And both answers so far have done so). I don't think a question correction is needed.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago
















$begingroup$
Related: Can Catapult be used on Delayed Blast Fireball? and What is the point of the throwing mechanic in Delayed Blast Fireball?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
Related: Can Catapult be used on Delayed Blast Fireball? and What is the point of the throwing mechanic in Delayed Blast Fireball?
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago












$begingroup$
Yes, that would be correct. 2^10 = 1024 minutes, which would create this small nuclear explosion in my pocket.
$endgroup$
– Ricardo
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
Yes, that would be correct. 2^10 = 1024 minutes, which would create this small nuclear explosion in my pocket.
$endgroup$
– Ricardo
3 hours ago




1




1




$begingroup$
The question itself ("can the bead be sealed in a container to prevent it from prematurely exploding") is valid, but according to the 5e rules for Metamagic, only one instance of a metamagic (including Extended Spell) may be used on a spell at a time, unless the specific Metamagic says otherwise. This is supported by posts made on this site: Can you use Extended Spell Metamagic more than Once? You may want to avoid distracting readers with what is either a misinterpretation of the rules, or a homerule that doesn't apply in normal play.
$endgroup$
– Xirema
3 hours ago






$begingroup$
The question itself ("can the bead be sealed in a container to prevent it from prematurely exploding") is valid, but according to the 5e rules for Metamagic, only one instance of a metamagic (including Extended Spell) may be used on a spell at a time, unless the specific Metamagic says otherwise. This is supported by posts made on this site: Can you use Extended Spell Metamagic more than Once? You may want to avoid distracting readers with what is either a misinterpretation of the rules, or a homerule that doesn't apply in normal play.
$endgroup$
– Xirema
3 hours ago






3




3




$begingroup$
@Xirema: correcting misconceptions is still something that is the job for an answer (And both answers so far have done so). I don't think a question correction is needed.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
@Xirema: correcting misconceptions is still something that is the job for an answer (And both answers so far have done so). I don't think a question correction is needed.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago










2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes


















14












$begingroup$

You can't carry it around or throw it in a glass jar



The bead stays in one place for its entire duration



Delayed blast fireball says:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




The spell tells us that the bead will stay at the given point for the entire duration at the spell. It does not outline any way the bead can be moved except by throwing it.



Remember, the spell targets a point in space and not an object. Targeting a point in space touching the jar doesn't mean the bead will follow the jar.



In the end, putting it in a jar isn't going to give you the ability to move a spell effect that says that it stays put.



You can throw it, but you have to touch it and take the risk




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




Putting it in a glass container will not allow you to dodge the risk that comes with the throwing clause in the spell. To throw it, a creature must touch it which then triggers the possibility that it ignites right there. If it is in a jar, you are not touching it, therefore you cannot throw it.



You can only extend the duration of the spell once



The rules for metamagic say:




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




Extend does not provide an exception to this rule, so you can only apply it once to your casting of delayed blast fireball (see this Q&A for more details). That means the duration will be extended to 2 minutes for a hefty 32d6 of damage.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    I'm not sure that your "point within range" argument holds up. What is enough of a relative point for it to be mobile? a planet? a ship? a cart? a glass jar?
    $endgroup$
    – goodguy5
    3 hours ago






  • 14




    $begingroup$
    @goodguy5 Listen, you can screw up almost any spell by redefining the spacial system to this or that. In the end what counts as space is up to the DM. Most DMs rule that the world is constant in the general vicinity of the PCs so as not to have to deal with relativistic physics that D&D cannot deal with. Whatever the spatial coordinates the DM says are in use are the ones you use. A jar, however, would almost certainly not pass muster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago





















8












$begingroup$

No.



You cannot carry it in a flask, but you can throw it. And the maximum duration is 2 minutes, not 17 hours. Here's why.



1. The bead of the fireball does not move. You chose a point within range and it stays there for the duration.



From the Delayed Blast Fireball description in the Player's Handbook:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




2. Anyone can throw the bead.



From the spell description:




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




3. You can only extend the duration to 2 minutes.



From the Sorcerer class in the Players' Handbook (the section titled Metamagic):




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




So the maximum damage you can do with an Extended Delayed Blast Fireball is 32d6. That's a massive amount of damage even at the highest levels of play.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    how did you go from "if touched save or BOOM" to "anyone can throw the bead" ???
    $endgroup$
    – Mindwin
    1 hour ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Mindwin "On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet."
    $endgroup$
    – Apocalisp
    1 hour ago











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["\$", "\$"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "122"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: false,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: null,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});






Ricardo is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f140721%2fcan-i-carry-a-bead-of-delayed-blast-fireball-in-a-flask-and-then-throw-it%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown

























2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes








2 Answers
2






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes









14












$begingroup$

You can't carry it around or throw it in a glass jar



The bead stays in one place for its entire duration



Delayed blast fireball says:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




The spell tells us that the bead will stay at the given point for the entire duration at the spell. It does not outline any way the bead can be moved except by throwing it.



Remember, the spell targets a point in space and not an object. Targeting a point in space touching the jar doesn't mean the bead will follow the jar.



In the end, putting it in a jar isn't going to give you the ability to move a spell effect that says that it stays put.



You can throw it, but you have to touch it and take the risk




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




Putting it in a glass container will not allow you to dodge the risk that comes with the throwing clause in the spell. To throw it, a creature must touch it which then triggers the possibility that it ignites right there. If it is in a jar, you are not touching it, therefore you cannot throw it.



You can only extend the duration of the spell once



The rules for metamagic say:




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




Extend does not provide an exception to this rule, so you can only apply it once to your casting of delayed blast fireball (see this Q&A for more details). That means the duration will be extended to 2 minutes for a hefty 32d6 of damage.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    I'm not sure that your "point within range" argument holds up. What is enough of a relative point for it to be mobile? a planet? a ship? a cart? a glass jar?
    $endgroup$
    – goodguy5
    3 hours ago






  • 14




    $begingroup$
    @goodguy5 Listen, you can screw up almost any spell by redefining the spacial system to this or that. In the end what counts as space is up to the DM. Most DMs rule that the world is constant in the general vicinity of the PCs so as not to have to deal with relativistic physics that D&D cannot deal with. Whatever the spatial coordinates the DM says are in use are the ones you use. A jar, however, would almost certainly not pass muster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago


















14












$begingroup$

You can't carry it around or throw it in a glass jar



The bead stays in one place for its entire duration



Delayed blast fireball says:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




The spell tells us that the bead will stay at the given point for the entire duration at the spell. It does not outline any way the bead can be moved except by throwing it.



Remember, the spell targets a point in space and not an object. Targeting a point in space touching the jar doesn't mean the bead will follow the jar.



In the end, putting it in a jar isn't going to give you the ability to move a spell effect that says that it stays put.



You can throw it, but you have to touch it and take the risk




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




Putting it in a glass container will not allow you to dodge the risk that comes with the throwing clause in the spell. To throw it, a creature must touch it which then triggers the possibility that it ignites right there. If it is in a jar, you are not touching it, therefore you cannot throw it.



You can only extend the duration of the spell once



The rules for metamagic say:




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




Extend does not provide an exception to this rule, so you can only apply it once to your casting of delayed blast fireball (see this Q&A for more details). That means the duration will be extended to 2 minutes for a hefty 32d6 of damage.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    I'm not sure that your "point within range" argument holds up. What is enough of a relative point for it to be mobile? a planet? a ship? a cart? a glass jar?
    $endgroup$
    – goodguy5
    3 hours ago






  • 14




    $begingroup$
    @goodguy5 Listen, you can screw up almost any spell by redefining the spacial system to this or that. In the end what counts as space is up to the DM. Most DMs rule that the world is constant in the general vicinity of the PCs so as not to have to deal with relativistic physics that D&D cannot deal with. Whatever the spatial coordinates the DM says are in use are the ones you use. A jar, however, would almost certainly not pass muster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago
















14












14








14





$begingroup$

You can't carry it around or throw it in a glass jar



The bead stays in one place for its entire duration



Delayed blast fireball says:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




The spell tells us that the bead will stay at the given point for the entire duration at the spell. It does not outline any way the bead can be moved except by throwing it.



Remember, the spell targets a point in space and not an object. Targeting a point in space touching the jar doesn't mean the bead will follow the jar.



In the end, putting it in a jar isn't going to give you the ability to move a spell effect that says that it stays put.



You can throw it, but you have to touch it and take the risk




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




Putting it in a glass container will not allow you to dodge the risk that comes with the throwing clause in the spell. To throw it, a creature must touch it which then triggers the possibility that it ignites right there. If it is in a jar, you are not touching it, therefore you cannot throw it.



You can only extend the duration of the spell once



The rules for metamagic say:




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




Extend does not provide an exception to this rule, so you can only apply it once to your casting of delayed blast fireball (see this Q&A for more details). That means the duration will be extended to 2 minutes for a hefty 32d6 of damage.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



You can't carry it around or throw it in a glass jar



The bead stays in one place for its entire duration



Delayed blast fireball says:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




The spell tells us that the bead will stay at the given point for the entire duration at the spell. It does not outline any way the bead can be moved except by throwing it.



Remember, the spell targets a point in space and not an object. Targeting a point in space touching the jar doesn't mean the bead will follow the jar.



In the end, putting it in a jar isn't going to give you the ability to move a spell effect that says that it stays put.



You can throw it, but you have to touch it and take the risk




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




Putting it in a glass container will not allow you to dodge the risk that comes with the throwing clause in the spell. To throw it, a creature must touch it which then triggers the possibility that it ignites right there. If it is in a jar, you are not touching it, therefore you cannot throw it.



You can only extend the duration of the spell once



The rules for metamagic say:




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




Extend does not provide an exception to this rule, so you can only apply it once to your casting of delayed blast fireball (see this Q&A for more details). That means the duration will be extended to 2 minutes for a hefty 32d6 of damage.







share|improve this answer














share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer








edited 2 hours ago

























answered 3 hours ago









RubiksmooseRubiksmoose

54.2k9265408




54.2k9265408












  • $begingroup$
    I'm not sure that your "point within range" argument holds up. What is enough of a relative point for it to be mobile? a planet? a ship? a cart? a glass jar?
    $endgroup$
    – goodguy5
    3 hours ago






  • 14




    $begingroup$
    @goodguy5 Listen, you can screw up almost any spell by redefining the spacial system to this or that. In the end what counts as space is up to the DM. Most DMs rule that the world is constant in the general vicinity of the PCs so as not to have to deal with relativistic physics that D&D cannot deal with. Whatever the spatial coordinates the DM says are in use are the ones you use. A jar, however, would almost certainly not pass muster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago




















  • $begingroup$
    I'm not sure that your "point within range" argument holds up. What is enough of a relative point for it to be mobile? a planet? a ship? a cart? a glass jar?
    $endgroup$
    – goodguy5
    3 hours ago






  • 14




    $begingroup$
    @goodguy5 Listen, you can screw up almost any spell by redefining the spacial system to this or that. In the end what counts as space is up to the DM. Most DMs rule that the world is constant in the general vicinity of the PCs so as not to have to deal with relativistic physics that D&D cannot deal with. Whatever the spatial coordinates the DM says are in use are the ones you use. A jar, however, would almost certainly not pass muster.
    $endgroup$
    – Rubiksmoose
    3 hours ago


















$begingroup$
I'm not sure that your "point within range" argument holds up. What is enough of a relative point for it to be mobile? a planet? a ship? a cart? a glass jar?
$endgroup$
– goodguy5
3 hours ago




$begingroup$
I'm not sure that your "point within range" argument holds up. What is enough of a relative point for it to be mobile? a planet? a ship? a cart? a glass jar?
$endgroup$
– goodguy5
3 hours ago




14




14




$begingroup$
@goodguy5 Listen, you can screw up almost any spell by redefining the spacial system to this or that. In the end what counts as space is up to the DM. Most DMs rule that the world is constant in the general vicinity of the PCs so as not to have to deal with relativistic physics that D&D cannot deal with. Whatever the spatial coordinates the DM says are in use are the ones you use. A jar, however, would almost certainly not pass muster.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago






$begingroup$
@goodguy5 Listen, you can screw up almost any spell by redefining the spacial system to this or that. In the end what counts as space is up to the DM. Most DMs rule that the world is constant in the general vicinity of the PCs so as not to have to deal with relativistic physics that D&D cannot deal with. Whatever the spatial coordinates the DM says are in use are the ones you use. A jar, however, would almost certainly not pass muster.
$endgroup$
– Rubiksmoose
3 hours ago















8












$begingroup$

No.



You cannot carry it in a flask, but you can throw it. And the maximum duration is 2 minutes, not 17 hours. Here's why.



1. The bead of the fireball does not move. You chose a point within range and it stays there for the duration.



From the Delayed Blast Fireball description in the Player's Handbook:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




2. Anyone can throw the bead.



From the spell description:




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




3. You can only extend the duration to 2 minutes.



From the Sorcerer class in the Players' Handbook (the section titled Metamagic):




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




So the maximum damage you can do with an Extended Delayed Blast Fireball is 32d6. That's a massive amount of damage even at the highest levels of play.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    how did you go from "if touched save or BOOM" to "anyone can throw the bead" ???
    $endgroup$
    – Mindwin
    1 hour ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Mindwin "On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet."
    $endgroup$
    – Apocalisp
    1 hour ago
















8












$begingroup$

No.



You cannot carry it in a flask, but you can throw it. And the maximum duration is 2 minutes, not 17 hours. Here's why.



1. The bead of the fireball does not move. You chose a point within range and it stays there for the duration.



From the Delayed Blast Fireball description in the Player's Handbook:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




2. Anyone can throw the bead.



From the spell description:




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




3. You can only extend the duration to 2 minutes.



From the Sorcerer class in the Players' Handbook (the section titled Metamagic):




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




So the maximum damage you can do with an Extended Delayed Blast Fireball is 32d6. That's a massive amount of damage even at the highest levels of play.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    how did you go from "if touched save or BOOM" to "anyone can throw the bead" ???
    $endgroup$
    – Mindwin
    1 hour ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Mindwin "On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet."
    $endgroup$
    – Apocalisp
    1 hour ago














8












8








8





$begingroup$

No.



You cannot carry it in a flask, but you can throw it. And the maximum duration is 2 minutes, not 17 hours. Here's why.



1. The bead of the fireball does not move. You chose a point within range and it stays there for the duration.



From the Delayed Blast Fireball description in the Player's Handbook:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




2. Anyone can throw the bead.



From the spell description:




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




3. You can only extend the duration to 2 minutes.



From the Sorcerer class in the Players' Handbook (the section titled Metamagic):




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




So the maximum damage you can do with an Extended Delayed Blast Fireball is 32d6. That's a massive amount of damage even at the highest levels of play.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



No.



You cannot carry it in a flask, but you can throw it. And the maximum duration is 2 minutes, not 17 hours. Here's why.



1. The bead of the fireball does not move. You chose a point within range and it stays there for the duration.



From the Delayed Blast Fireball description in the Player's Handbook:




A beam of yellow light flashes from your pointing finger, then condenses to linger at a chosen point within range as a glowing bead for the duration.




2. Anyone can throw the bead.



From the spell description:




If the glowing bead is touched before the interval has expired, the creature touching it must make a Dexterity saving throw. On a failed save, the spell ends immediately, causing the bead to erupt into flame. On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet.




3. You can only extend the duration to 2 minutes.



From the Sorcerer class in the Players' Handbook (the section titled Metamagic):




You can use only one Metamagic option on a spell when you cast it, unless otherwise noted.




So the maximum damage you can do with an Extended Delayed Blast Fireball is 32d6. That's a massive amount of damage even at the highest levels of play.







share|improve this answer














share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer








edited 3 hours ago

























answered 3 hours ago









ApocalispApocalisp

2,649936




2,649936












  • $begingroup$
    how did you go from "if touched save or BOOM" to "anyone can throw the bead" ???
    $endgroup$
    – Mindwin
    1 hour ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Mindwin "On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet."
    $endgroup$
    – Apocalisp
    1 hour ago


















  • $begingroup$
    how did you go from "if touched save or BOOM" to "anyone can throw the bead" ???
    $endgroup$
    – Mindwin
    1 hour ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Mindwin "On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet."
    $endgroup$
    – Apocalisp
    1 hour ago
















$begingroup$
how did you go from "if touched save or BOOM" to "anyone can throw the bead" ???
$endgroup$
– Mindwin
1 hour ago




$begingroup$
how did you go from "if touched save or BOOM" to "anyone can throw the bead" ???
$endgroup$
– Mindwin
1 hour ago




2




2




$begingroup$
@Mindwin "On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet."
$endgroup$
– Apocalisp
1 hour ago




$begingroup$
@Mindwin "On a successful save, the creature can throw the bead up to 40 feet."
$endgroup$
– Apocalisp
1 hour ago










Ricardo is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.










draft saved

draft discarded


















Ricardo is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.













Ricardo is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.












Ricardo is a new contributor. Be nice, and check out our Code of Conduct.
















Thanks for contributing an answer to Role-playing Games Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2frpg.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f140721%2fcan-i-carry-a-bead-of-delayed-blast-fireball-in-a-flask-and-then-throw-it%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

How to label and detect the document text images

Vallis Paradisi

Tabula Rosettana