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The Marauder's Map is really a puzzling magical artifact for me. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Harry saw Barty Crouch go to Snape's inventory who used Polyjuice Potion to disguise himself as Moody. So even Polyjuice Potion isn't a match for the Map.



So how could four immature students of Hogwarts make such an advanced map which can even reveal a strong potion like Polyjuice Potion? How did they become so skilled in magic?



And if this map is so effective, why doesn't the Ministry of Magic use them as a safely measure for them, so that no intruder can use Polyjuice Potion like Harry and friends? Surely the MOM knows more magic than teenagers.










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The Marauder's Map is really a puzzling magical artifact for me. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Harry saw Barty Crouch go to Snape's inventory who used Polyjuice Potion to disguise himself as Moody. So even Polyjuice Potion isn't a match for the Map.



So how could four immature students of Hogwarts make such an advanced map which can even reveal a strong potion like Polyjuice Potion? How did they become so skilled in magic?



And if this map is so effective, why doesn't the Ministry of Magic use them as a safely measure for them, so that no intruder can use Polyjuice Potion like Harry and friends? Surely the MOM knows more magic than teenagers.










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  • These were the magical equivalent of the aristocracy, the scions of four great magical houses.

    – Valorum
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  • Related questions, although not necessarily duplicates: scifi.stackexchange.com/q/11051/19561 and scifi.stackexchange.com/q/9946/19561

    – SQB
    Nov 30 '18 at 9:08














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The Marauder's Map is really a puzzling magical artifact for me. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Harry saw Barty Crouch go to Snape's inventory who used Polyjuice Potion to disguise himself as Moody. So even Polyjuice Potion isn't a match for the Map.



So how could four immature students of Hogwarts make such an advanced map which can even reveal a strong potion like Polyjuice Potion? How did they become so skilled in magic?



And if this map is so effective, why doesn't the Ministry of Magic use them as a safely measure for them, so that no intruder can use Polyjuice Potion like Harry and friends? Surely the MOM knows more magic than teenagers.










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The Marauder's Map is really a puzzling magical artifact for me. In Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire Harry saw Barty Crouch go to Snape's inventory who used Polyjuice Potion to disguise himself as Moody. So even Polyjuice Potion isn't a match for the Map.



So how could four immature students of Hogwarts make such an advanced map which can even reveal a strong potion like Polyjuice Potion? How did they become so skilled in magic?



And if this map is so effective, why doesn't the Ministry of Magic use them as a safely measure for them, so that no intruder can use Polyjuice Potion like Harry and friends? Surely the MOM knows more magic than teenagers.







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  • These were the magical equivalent of the aristocracy, the scions of four great magical houses.

    – Valorum
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  • Related questions, although not necessarily duplicates: scifi.stackexchange.com/q/11051/19561 and scifi.stackexchange.com/q/9946/19561

    – SQB
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  • These were the magical equivalent of the aristocracy, the scions of four great magical houses.

    – Valorum
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  • Related questions, although not necessarily duplicates: scifi.stackexchange.com/q/11051/19561 and scifi.stackexchange.com/q/9946/19561

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These were the magical equivalent of the aristocracy, the scions of four great magical houses.

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These were the magical equivalent of the aristocracy, the scions of four great magical houses.

– Valorum
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Related questions, although not necessarily duplicates: scifi.stackexchange.com/q/11051/19561 and scifi.stackexchange.com/q/9946/19561

– SQB
Nov 30 '18 at 9:08





Related questions, although not necessarily duplicates: scifi.stackexchange.com/q/11051/19561 and scifi.stackexchange.com/q/9946/19561

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James Potter and the gang might have been immature, but they were obviously quite skilled (probably not as much as Snape). I think this would provide an answer to your question up to some extent.



Even though Marauder's Map was powerful, it still couldn't show the Room of Requirement. There might be other ways to fool the map that we don't know of.






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"Precisely," said Professor McGonagall. "Black and Potter. Ringleaders
of their little gang. Both very bright, of course -- exceptionally
bright, in fact -- but I don't think we've ever had such a pair of
troublemakers --"



Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the school,
and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can go horribly wrong



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Look, Harry, what you've got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the school at whatever they did-- everyone thought they were the height of cool



Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix







'Well, I thought that (DADA) paper was a piece of cake,' he heard Sirius say. 'I'll be surprised if I don't get "Outstanding" on it at least. '

'Me too,' said James….

…'I'm bored,' said Sirius. 'Wish it was full moon. '

'You might,' said Lupin darkly from behind his book. 'We've still got Transfiguration, if you're bored you could test me. Here . . . ' and he held out his book.

But Sirius snorted. 'I don't need to look at that rubbish, I know it all. '



Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix






See above quotes taken directly from books. People often forget how smart they were, James and Sirius weren't just some bullies or pranksters , this is often overlooked. They didn't even have to put in the work, natural genius. Sure there were plenty more wizards with more knowledge than them (and they could probably recreate something if they knew of its existence) but that doesn't necessarily mean they could think outside the box or be as creative to come up with it themselves.






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    James Potter and the gang might have been immature, but they were obviously quite skilled (probably not as much as Snape). I think this would provide an answer to your question up to some extent.



    Even though Marauder's Map was powerful, it still couldn't show the Room of Requirement. There might be other ways to fool the map that we don't know of.






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      If the answer is found at the link you should edit in the relevant information so your answer is contained within your answer.

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    • Looks like it uses the Homonculous Charm

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    James Potter and the gang might have been immature, but they were obviously quite skilled (probably not as much as Snape). I think this would provide an answer to your question up to some extent.



    Even though Marauder's Map was powerful, it still couldn't show the Room of Requirement. There might be other ways to fool the map that we don't know of.






    share|improve this answer





















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      If the answer is found at the link you should edit in the relevant information so your answer is contained within your answer.

      – TheLethalCarrot
      Nov 30 '18 at 9:25











    • Thanks for the tip!

      – RakihthaRR
      Nov 30 '18 at 10:19











    • Looks like it uses the Homonculous Charm

      – Matt
      Dec 10 '18 at 14:31
















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    James Potter and the gang might have been immature, but they were obviously quite skilled (probably not as much as Snape). I think this would provide an answer to your question up to some extent.



    Even though Marauder's Map was powerful, it still couldn't show the Room of Requirement. There might be other ways to fool the map that we don't know of.






    share|improve this answer















    James Potter and the gang might have been immature, but they were obviously quite skilled (probably not as much as Snape). I think this would provide an answer to your question up to some extent.



    Even though Marauder's Map was powerful, it still couldn't show the Room of Requirement. There might be other ways to fool the map that we don't know of.







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    • Looks like it uses the Homonculous Charm

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    • Looks like it uses the Homonculous Charm

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    Thanks for the tip!

    – RakihthaRR
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    Thanks for the tip!

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    Looks like it uses the Homonculous Charm

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    Looks like it uses the Homonculous Charm

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    "Precisely," said Professor McGonagall. "Black and Potter. Ringleaders
    of their little gang. Both very bright, of course -- exceptionally
    bright, in fact -- but I don't think we've ever had such a pair of
    troublemakers --"



    Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







    Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the school,
    and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can go horribly wrong



    Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







    Look, Harry, what you've got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the school at whatever they did-- everyone thought they were the height of cool



    Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix







    'Well, I thought that (DADA) paper was a piece of cake,' he heard Sirius say. 'I'll be surprised if I don't get "Outstanding" on it at least. '

    'Me too,' said James….

    …'I'm bored,' said Sirius. 'Wish it was full moon. '

    'You might,' said Lupin darkly from behind his book. 'We've still got Transfiguration, if you're bored you could test me. Here . . . ' and he held out his book.

    But Sirius snorted. 'I don't need to look at that rubbish, I know it all. '



    Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix






    See above quotes taken directly from books. People often forget how smart they were, James and Sirius weren't just some bullies or pranksters , this is often overlooked. They didn't even have to put in the work, natural genius. Sure there were plenty more wizards with more knowledge than them (and they could probably recreate something if they knew of its existence) but that doesn't necessarily mean they could think outside the box or be as creative to come up with it themselves.






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      Canon Quotes from the Books




      "Precisely," said Professor McGonagall. "Black and Potter. Ringleaders
      of their little gang. Both very bright, of course -- exceptionally
      bright, in fact -- but I don't think we've ever had such a pair of
      troublemakers --"



      Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







      Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the school,
      and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can go horribly wrong



      Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







      Look, Harry, what you've got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the school at whatever they did-- everyone thought they were the height of cool



      Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix







      'Well, I thought that (DADA) paper was a piece of cake,' he heard Sirius say. 'I'll be surprised if I don't get "Outstanding" on it at least. '

      'Me too,' said James….

      …'I'm bored,' said Sirius. 'Wish it was full moon. '

      'You might,' said Lupin darkly from behind his book. 'We've still got Transfiguration, if you're bored you could test me. Here . . . ' and he held out his book.

      But Sirius snorted. 'I don't need to look at that rubbish, I know it all. '



      Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix






      See above quotes taken directly from books. People often forget how smart they were, James and Sirius weren't just some bullies or pranksters , this is often overlooked. They didn't even have to put in the work, natural genius. Sure there were plenty more wizards with more knowledge than them (and they could probably recreate something if they knew of its existence) but that doesn't necessarily mean they could think outside the box or be as creative to come up with it themselves.






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        Canon Quotes from the Books




        "Precisely," said Professor McGonagall. "Black and Potter. Ringleaders
        of their little gang. Both very bright, of course -- exceptionally
        bright, in fact -- but I don't think we've ever had such a pair of
        troublemakers --"



        Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







        Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the school,
        and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can go horribly wrong



        Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







        Look, Harry, what you've got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the school at whatever they did-- everyone thought they were the height of cool



        Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix







        'Well, I thought that (DADA) paper was a piece of cake,' he heard Sirius say. 'I'll be surprised if I don't get "Outstanding" on it at least. '

        'Me too,' said James….

        …'I'm bored,' said Sirius. 'Wish it was full moon. '

        'You might,' said Lupin darkly from behind his book. 'We've still got Transfiguration, if you're bored you could test me. Here . . . ' and he held out his book.

        But Sirius snorted. 'I don't need to look at that rubbish, I know it all. '



        Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix






        See above quotes taken directly from books. People often forget how smart they were, James and Sirius weren't just some bullies or pranksters , this is often overlooked. They didn't even have to put in the work, natural genius. Sure there were plenty more wizards with more knowledge than them (and they could probably recreate something if they knew of its existence) but that doesn't necessarily mean they could think outside the box or be as creative to come up with it themselves.






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        Canon Quotes from the Books




        "Precisely," said Professor McGonagall. "Black and Potter. Ringleaders
        of their little gang. Both very bright, of course -- exceptionally
        bright, in fact -- but I don't think we've ever had such a pair of
        troublemakers --"



        Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







        Your father and Sirius here were the cleverest students in the school,
        and lucky they were, because the Animagus transformation can go horribly wrong



        Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban







        Look, Harry, what you've got to understand is that your father and Sirius were the best in the school at whatever they did-- everyone thought they were the height of cool



        Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix







        'Well, I thought that (DADA) paper was a piece of cake,' he heard Sirius say. 'I'll be surprised if I don't get "Outstanding" on it at least. '

        'Me too,' said James….

        …'I'm bored,' said Sirius. 'Wish it was full moon. '

        'You might,' said Lupin darkly from behind his book. 'We've still got Transfiguration, if you're bored you could test me. Here . . . ' and he held out his book.

        But Sirius snorted. 'I don't need to look at that rubbish, I know it all. '



        Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix






        See above quotes taken directly from books. People often forget how smart they were, James and Sirius weren't just some bullies or pranksters , this is often overlooked. They didn't even have to put in the work, natural genius. Sure there were plenty more wizards with more knowledge than them (and they could probably recreate something if they knew of its existence) but that doesn't necessarily mean they could think outside the box or be as creative to come up with it themselves.







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