Gini Impurity vs Entropy
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Can someone practically explain the rationale behind Gini impurity vs Information gain (based on Entropy)?
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using decision trees?
machine-learning decision-trees
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Can someone practically explain the rationale behind Gini impurity vs Information gain (based on Entropy)?
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using decision trees?
machine-learning decision-trees
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@Anony-Mousse I guess that was obvious before your comment. The question is not if both have their advantages, but in which scenarios one is better than the other.
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– Martin Thoma
Feb 14 '16 at 10:34
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I have proposed "Information gain" instead of "Entropy", since it is quite closer (IMHO), as marked in the related links. Then, the question was asked in a different form in When to use Gini impurity and when to use information gain?
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– Laurent Duval
Feb 16 '16 at 7:23
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I have posted here a simple interpretation of the Gini impurity that may be helpful.
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– Picaud Vincent
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Can someone practically explain the rationale behind Gini impurity vs Information gain (based on Entropy)?
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using decision trees?
machine-learning decision-trees
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Can someone practically explain the rationale behind Gini impurity vs Information gain (based on Entropy)?
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using decision trees?
machine-learning decision-trees
machine-learning decision-trees
edited Feb 17 '16 at 8:45
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@Anony-Mousse I guess that was obvious before your comment. The question is not if both have their advantages, but in which scenarios one is better than the other.
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– Martin Thoma
Feb 14 '16 at 10:34
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I have proposed "Information gain" instead of "Entropy", since it is quite closer (IMHO), as marked in the related links. Then, the question was asked in a different form in When to use Gini impurity and when to use information gain?
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– Laurent Duval
Feb 16 '16 at 7:23
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I have posted here a simple interpretation of the Gini impurity that may be helpful.
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– Picaud Vincent
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@Anony-Mousse I guess that was obvious before your comment. The question is not if both have their advantages, but in which scenarios one is better than the other.
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– Martin Thoma
Feb 14 '16 at 10:34
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I have proposed "Information gain" instead of "Entropy", since it is quite closer (IMHO), as marked in the related links. Then, the question was asked in a different form in When to use Gini impurity and when to use information gain?
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– Laurent Duval
Feb 16 '16 at 7:23
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I have posted here a simple interpretation of the Gini impurity that may be helpful.
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– Picaud Vincent
Nov 6 '17 at 11:33
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@Anony-Mousse I guess that was obvious before your comment. The question is not if both have their advantages, but in which scenarios one is better than the other.
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– Martin Thoma
Feb 14 '16 at 10:34
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@Anony-Mousse I guess that was obvious before your comment. The question is not if both have their advantages, but in which scenarios one is better than the other.
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– Martin Thoma
Feb 14 '16 at 10:34
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I have proposed "Information gain" instead of "Entropy", since it is quite closer (IMHO), as marked in the related links. Then, the question was asked in a different form in When to use Gini impurity and when to use information gain?
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– Laurent Duval
Feb 16 '16 at 7:23
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I have proposed "Information gain" instead of "Entropy", since it is quite closer (IMHO), as marked in the related links. Then, the question was asked in a different form in When to use Gini impurity and when to use information gain?
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– Laurent Duval
Feb 16 '16 at 7:23
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I have posted here a simple interpretation of the Gini impurity that may be helpful.
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– Picaud Vincent
Nov 6 '17 at 11:33
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I have posted here a simple interpretation of the Gini impurity that may be helpful.
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– Picaud Vincent
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Gini impurity and Information Gain Entropy are pretty much the same. And people do use the values interchangeably. Below are the formulae of both:
- $textit{Gini}: mathit{Gini}(E) = 1 - sum_{j=1}^{c}p_j^2$
- $textit{Entropy}: H(E) = -sum_{j=1}^{c}p_jlog p_j$
Given a choice, I would use the Gini impurity, as it doesn't require me to compute logarithmic functions, which are computationally intensive. The closed form of it's solution can also be found.
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using
decision trees ?
The Gini impurity, for reasons stated above.
So, they are pretty much same when it comes to CART analytics.
Helpful reference for computational comparison of the two methods
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It is so common to see formula of entropy, while what is really used in decision tree looks like conditional entropy. I think it is important distinction or am missing something?
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– user1700890
Aug 12 '17 at 13:01
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@user1700890 The ID3 algorithm uses Info. gain entropy. I need to read up on conditional entropy. Probably an improvement over ID3 :)
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– Dawny33♦
Aug 12 '17 at 13:55
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I think your definition of the gini impurtiy might be wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning#Gini_impurity
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– Martin Thoma
Oct 19 '17 at 11:30
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Generally, your performance will not change whether you use Gini impurity or Entropy.
Laura Elena Raileanu and Kilian Stoffel compared both in "Theoretical comparison between the gini index and information gain criteria". The most important remarks were:
- It only matters in 2% of the cases whether you use gini impurity or entropy.
- Entropy might be a little slower to compute (because it makes use of the logarithm).
I was once told that both metrics exist because they emerged in different disciplines of science.
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Gini is intended for continuous attributes and Entropy is for attributes that occur in classes
Gini is to minimize misclassification
Entropy is for exploratory analysis
Entropy is a little slower to compute
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For the case of a variable with two values, appearing with fractions f and (1-f),
the gini and entropy are given by:
gini = 2*f(1-f)
entropy = f*ln(1/f) + (1-f)*ln(1/(1-f))
These measures are very similar if scaled to 1.0
(plotting 2*gini and entropy/ln(2) ):

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To add upon the fact that there are more or less the same, consider also the fact that:
$$
begin{split}
forall ; 0 < u < 1,; log (1-u) &= -u - u^2/2 - u^3/3 , + , cdots\
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; log (p) &= p-1 - (1-p)^2/2 - (1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots\
end{split}
$$
so that:
$$
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; -p log (p) = p(1-p) + p(1-p)^2/2 + p(1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots
$$
See the following plot of the two functions normalised to get 1 as maximum value: red curve is for Gini while black one is for entropy.

In the end as explained by @NIMISHAN Gini is more suitable to minimise misclassfication as it is symetric to 0.5, while entropy will more penalised small probabilities.
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Entropy takes slightly more computation time than Gini Index because of the log calculation, maybe that's why Gini Index has become the default option for many ML algorithms.
But, from Tan et. al book Introduction to Data Mining
"Impurity measure are quite consistent with each other...
Indeed, the strategy used to prune the tree has a greater impact on the final tree than the choice of impurity measure."
So, it looks like the selection of impurity measure has little effect on the performance of single decision tree algorithms.
Also.
"Gini method works only when the target variable is a binary variable." - Learning Predictive Analytics with Python.
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I've been doing optimizations on binary classification for the past week+, and in every case, entropy significantly outperforms gini. This may be data set specific, but it would seem like trying both while tuning hyperparameters is a rational choice, rather than making assumptions about the model ahead of time.
You never know how data will react until you've run the statistics.
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As per parsimony principal Gini outperform entropy as of computation ease (log is obvious has more computations involved rather that plain multiplication at processor/Machine level).
But entropy definitely has an edge in some data cases involving high imbalance.
Since entropy uses log of probabilities and multiplying with probabilities of event, what is happening at background is value of lower probabilities are getting scaled up.
If your data probability distribution is exponential or Laplace (like in case of deep learning where we need probability distribution at sharp point) entropy outperform Gini.
To give an example if you have 2 events one .01 probability and other .99 probability.
In Gini Prob sq will be .01^2+.99^2, .0001 + .9801 means lower probability do not play any role as everything is govern by majority probability.
Now in case of entropy .01*log(.01)+.99*log(.99)= .01*(-2)+ .99*(-.00436)
= -.02-.00432
now in this case clearly seen lower probabilities are given better weight-age.
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Gini impurity and Information Gain Entropy are pretty much the same. And people do use the values interchangeably. Below are the formulae of both:
- $textit{Gini}: mathit{Gini}(E) = 1 - sum_{j=1}^{c}p_j^2$
- $textit{Entropy}: H(E) = -sum_{j=1}^{c}p_jlog p_j$
Given a choice, I would use the Gini impurity, as it doesn't require me to compute logarithmic functions, which are computationally intensive. The closed form of it's solution can also be found.
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using
decision trees ?
The Gini impurity, for reasons stated above.
So, they are pretty much same when it comes to CART analytics.
Helpful reference for computational comparison of the two methods
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It is so common to see formula of entropy, while what is really used in decision tree looks like conditional entropy. I think it is important distinction or am missing something?
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– user1700890
Aug 12 '17 at 13:01
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@user1700890 The ID3 algorithm uses Info. gain entropy. I need to read up on conditional entropy. Probably an improvement over ID3 :)
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– Dawny33♦
Aug 12 '17 at 13:55
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I think your definition of the gini impurtiy might be wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning#Gini_impurity
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– Martin Thoma
Oct 19 '17 at 11:30
add a comment |
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Gini impurity and Information Gain Entropy are pretty much the same. And people do use the values interchangeably. Below are the formulae of both:
- $textit{Gini}: mathit{Gini}(E) = 1 - sum_{j=1}^{c}p_j^2$
- $textit{Entropy}: H(E) = -sum_{j=1}^{c}p_jlog p_j$
Given a choice, I would use the Gini impurity, as it doesn't require me to compute logarithmic functions, which are computationally intensive. The closed form of it's solution can also be found.
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using
decision trees ?
The Gini impurity, for reasons stated above.
So, they are pretty much same when it comes to CART analytics.
Helpful reference for computational comparison of the two methods
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It is so common to see formula of entropy, while what is really used in decision tree looks like conditional entropy. I think it is important distinction or am missing something?
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– user1700890
Aug 12 '17 at 13:01
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@user1700890 The ID3 algorithm uses Info. gain entropy. I need to read up on conditional entropy. Probably an improvement over ID3 :)
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– Dawny33♦
Aug 12 '17 at 13:55
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I think your definition of the gini impurtiy might be wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning#Gini_impurity
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– Martin Thoma
Oct 19 '17 at 11:30
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Gini impurity and Information Gain Entropy are pretty much the same. And people do use the values interchangeably. Below are the formulae of both:
- $textit{Gini}: mathit{Gini}(E) = 1 - sum_{j=1}^{c}p_j^2$
- $textit{Entropy}: H(E) = -sum_{j=1}^{c}p_jlog p_j$
Given a choice, I would use the Gini impurity, as it doesn't require me to compute logarithmic functions, which are computationally intensive. The closed form of it's solution can also be found.
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using
decision trees ?
The Gini impurity, for reasons stated above.
So, they are pretty much same when it comes to CART analytics.
Helpful reference for computational comparison of the two methods
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Gini impurity and Information Gain Entropy are pretty much the same. And people do use the values interchangeably. Below are the formulae of both:
- $textit{Gini}: mathit{Gini}(E) = 1 - sum_{j=1}^{c}p_j^2$
- $textit{Entropy}: H(E) = -sum_{j=1}^{c}p_jlog p_j$
Given a choice, I would use the Gini impurity, as it doesn't require me to compute logarithmic functions, which are computationally intensive. The closed form of it's solution can also be found.
Which metric is better to use in different scenarios while using
decision trees ?
The Gini impurity, for reasons stated above.
So, they are pretty much same when it comes to CART analytics.
Helpful reference for computational comparison of the two methods
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answered Feb 17 '16 at 6:13
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It is so common to see formula of entropy, while what is really used in decision tree looks like conditional entropy. I think it is important distinction or am missing something?
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– user1700890
Aug 12 '17 at 13:01
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@user1700890 The ID3 algorithm uses Info. gain entropy. I need to read up on conditional entropy. Probably an improvement over ID3 :)
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– Dawny33♦
Aug 12 '17 at 13:55
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I think your definition of the gini impurtiy might be wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning#Gini_impurity
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– Martin Thoma
Oct 19 '17 at 11:30
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It is so common to see formula of entropy, while what is really used in decision tree looks like conditional entropy. I think it is important distinction or am missing something?
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– user1700890
Aug 12 '17 at 13:01
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@user1700890 The ID3 algorithm uses Info. gain entropy. I need to read up on conditional entropy. Probably an improvement over ID3 :)
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– Dawny33♦
Aug 12 '17 at 13:55
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I think your definition of the gini impurtiy might be wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning#Gini_impurity
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– Martin Thoma
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It is so common to see formula of entropy, while what is really used in decision tree looks like conditional entropy. I think it is important distinction or am missing something?
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– user1700890
Aug 12 '17 at 13:01
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It is so common to see formula of entropy, while what is really used in decision tree looks like conditional entropy. I think it is important distinction or am missing something?
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– user1700890
Aug 12 '17 at 13:01
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@user1700890 The ID3 algorithm uses Info. gain entropy. I need to read up on conditional entropy. Probably an improvement over ID3 :)
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– Dawny33♦
Aug 12 '17 at 13:55
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@user1700890 The ID3 algorithm uses Info. gain entropy. I need to read up on conditional entropy. Probably an improvement over ID3 :)
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– Dawny33♦
Aug 12 '17 at 13:55
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I think your definition of the gini impurtiy might be wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning#Gini_impurity
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– Martin Thoma
Oct 19 '17 at 11:30
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I think your definition of the gini impurtiy might be wrong: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decision_tree_learning#Gini_impurity
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– Martin Thoma
Oct 19 '17 at 11:30
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Generally, your performance will not change whether you use Gini impurity or Entropy.
Laura Elena Raileanu and Kilian Stoffel compared both in "Theoretical comparison between the gini index and information gain criteria". The most important remarks were:
- It only matters in 2% of the cases whether you use gini impurity or entropy.
- Entropy might be a little slower to compute (because it makes use of the logarithm).
I was once told that both metrics exist because they emerged in different disciplines of science.
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Generally, your performance will not change whether you use Gini impurity or Entropy.
Laura Elena Raileanu and Kilian Stoffel compared both in "Theoretical comparison between the gini index and information gain criteria". The most important remarks were:
- It only matters in 2% of the cases whether you use gini impurity or entropy.
- Entropy might be a little slower to compute (because it makes use of the logarithm).
I was once told that both metrics exist because they emerged in different disciplines of science.
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Generally, your performance will not change whether you use Gini impurity or Entropy.
Laura Elena Raileanu and Kilian Stoffel compared both in "Theoretical comparison between the gini index and information gain criteria". The most important remarks were:
- It only matters in 2% of the cases whether you use gini impurity or entropy.
- Entropy might be a little slower to compute (because it makes use of the logarithm).
I was once told that both metrics exist because they emerged in different disciplines of science.
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Generally, your performance will not change whether you use Gini impurity or Entropy.
Laura Elena Raileanu and Kilian Stoffel compared both in "Theoretical comparison between the gini index and information gain criteria". The most important remarks were:
- It only matters in 2% of the cases whether you use gini impurity or entropy.
- Entropy might be a little slower to compute (because it makes use of the logarithm).
I was once told that both metrics exist because they emerged in different disciplines of science.
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Gini is intended for continuous attributes and Entropy is for attributes that occur in classes
Gini is to minimize misclassification
Entropy is for exploratory analysis
Entropy is a little slower to compute
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Gini is intended for continuous attributes and Entropy is for attributes that occur in classes
Gini is to minimize misclassification
Entropy is for exploratory analysis
Entropy is a little slower to compute
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add a comment |
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Gini is intended for continuous attributes and Entropy is for attributes that occur in classes
Gini is to minimize misclassification
Entropy is for exploratory analysis
Entropy is a little slower to compute
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Gini is intended for continuous attributes and Entropy is for attributes that occur in classes
Gini is to minimize misclassification
Entropy is for exploratory analysis
Entropy is a little slower to compute
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For the case of a variable with two values, appearing with fractions f and (1-f),
the gini and entropy are given by:
gini = 2*f(1-f)
entropy = f*ln(1/f) + (1-f)*ln(1/(1-f))
These measures are very similar if scaled to 1.0
(plotting 2*gini and entropy/ln(2) ):

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For the case of a variable with two values, appearing with fractions f and (1-f),
the gini and entropy are given by:
gini = 2*f(1-f)
entropy = f*ln(1/f) + (1-f)*ln(1/(1-f))
These measures are very similar if scaled to 1.0
(plotting 2*gini and entropy/ln(2) ):

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For the case of a variable with two values, appearing with fractions f and (1-f),
the gini and entropy are given by:
gini = 2*f(1-f)
entropy = f*ln(1/f) + (1-f)*ln(1/(1-f))
These measures are very similar if scaled to 1.0
(plotting 2*gini and entropy/ln(2) ):

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For the case of a variable with two values, appearing with fractions f and (1-f),
the gini and entropy are given by:
gini = 2*f(1-f)
entropy = f*ln(1/f) + (1-f)*ln(1/(1-f))
These measures are very similar if scaled to 1.0
(plotting 2*gini and entropy/ln(2) ):

answered Apr 20 '17 at 15:37
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To add upon the fact that there are more or less the same, consider also the fact that:
$$
begin{split}
forall ; 0 < u < 1,; log (1-u) &= -u - u^2/2 - u^3/3 , + , cdots\
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; log (p) &= p-1 - (1-p)^2/2 - (1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots\
end{split}
$$
so that:
$$
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; -p log (p) = p(1-p) + p(1-p)^2/2 + p(1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots
$$
See the following plot of the two functions normalised to get 1 as maximum value: red curve is for Gini while black one is for entropy.

In the end as explained by @NIMISHAN Gini is more suitable to minimise misclassfication as it is symetric to 0.5, while entropy will more penalised small probabilities.
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To add upon the fact that there are more or less the same, consider also the fact that:
$$
begin{split}
forall ; 0 < u < 1,; log (1-u) &= -u - u^2/2 - u^3/3 , + , cdots\
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; log (p) &= p-1 - (1-p)^2/2 - (1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots\
end{split}
$$
so that:
$$
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; -p log (p) = p(1-p) + p(1-p)^2/2 + p(1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots
$$
See the following plot of the two functions normalised to get 1 as maximum value: red curve is for Gini while black one is for entropy.

In the end as explained by @NIMISHAN Gini is more suitable to minimise misclassfication as it is symetric to 0.5, while entropy will more penalised small probabilities.
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add a comment |
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To add upon the fact that there are more or less the same, consider also the fact that:
$$
begin{split}
forall ; 0 < u < 1,; log (1-u) &= -u - u^2/2 - u^3/3 , + , cdots\
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; log (p) &= p-1 - (1-p)^2/2 - (1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots\
end{split}
$$
so that:
$$
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; -p log (p) = p(1-p) + p(1-p)^2/2 + p(1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots
$$
See the following plot of the two functions normalised to get 1 as maximum value: red curve is for Gini while black one is for entropy.

In the end as explained by @NIMISHAN Gini is more suitable to minimise misclassfication as it is symetric to 0.5, while entropy will more penalised small probabilities.
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To add upon the fact that there are more or less the same, consider also the fact that:
$$
begin{split}
forall ; 0 < u < 1,; log (1-u) &= -u - u^2/2 - u^3/3 , + , cdots\
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; log (p) &= p-1 - (1-p)^2/2 - (1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots\
end{split}
$$
so that:
$$
forall ; 0 < p < 1,; -p log (p) = p(1-p) + p(1-p)^2/2 + p(1-p)^3/3 , + , cdots
$$
See the following plot of the two functions normalised to get 1 as maximum value: red curve is for Gini while black one is for entropy.

In the end as explained by @NIMISHAN Gini is more suitable to minimise misclassfication as it is symetric to 0.5, while entropy will more penalised small probabilities.
answered Mar 29 '17 at 10:39
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Entropy takes slightly more computation time than Gini Index because of the log calculation, maybe that's why Gini Index has become the default option for many ML algorithms.
But, from Tan et. al book Introduction to Data Mining
"Impurity measure are quite consistent with each other...
Indeed, the strategy used to prune the tree has a greater impact on the final tree than the choice of impurity measure."
So, it looks like the selection of impurity measure has little effect on the performance of single decision tree algorithms.
Also.
"Gini method works only when the target variable is a binary variable." - Learning Predictive Analytics with Python.
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Entropy takes slightly more computation time than Gini Index because of the log calculation, maybe that's why Gini Index has become the default option for many ML algorithms.
But, from Tan et. al book Introduction to Data Mining
"Impurity measure are quite consistent with each other...
Indeed, the strategy used to prune the tree has a greater impact on the final tree than the choice of impurity measure."
So, it looks like the selection of impurity measure has little effect on the performance of single decision tree algorithms.
Also.
"Gini method works only when the target variable is a binary variable." - Learning Predictive Analytics with Python.
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Entropy takes slightly more computation time than Gini Index because of the log calculation, maybe that's why Gini Index has become the default option for many ML algorithms.
But, from Tan et. al book Introduction to Data Mining
"Impurity measure are quite consistent with each other...
Indeed, the strategy used to prune the tree has a greater impact on the final tree than the choice of impurity measure."
So, it looks like the selection of impurity measure has little effect on the performance of single decision tree algorithms.
Also.
"Gini method works only when the target variable is a binary variable." - Learning Predictive Analytics with Python.
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Entropy takes slightly more computation time than Gini Index because of the log calculation, maybe that's why Gini Index has become the default option for many ML algorithms.
But, from Tan et. al book Introduction to Data Mining
"Impurity measure are quite consistent with each other...
Indeed, the strategy used to prune the tree has a greater impact on the final tree than the choice of impurity measure."
So, it looks like the selection of impurity measure has little effect on the performance of single decision tree algorithms.
Also.
"Gini method works only when the target variable is a binary variable." - Learning Predictive Analytics with Python.
answered Jun 8 '18 at 4:00
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I've been doing optimizations on binary classification for the past week+, and in every case, entropy significantly outperforms gini. This may be data set specific, but it would seem like trying both while tuning hyperparameters is a rational choice, rather than making assumptions about the model ahead of time.
You never know how data will react until you've run the statistics.
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I've been doing optimizations on binary classification for the past week+, and in every case, entropy significantly outperforms gini. This may be data set specific, but it would seem like trying both while tuning hyperparameters is a rational choice, rather than making assumptions about the model ahead of time.
You never know how data will react until you've run the statistics.
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I've been doing optimizations on binary classification for the past week+, and in every case, entropy significantly outperforms gini. This may be data set specific, but it would seem like trying both while tuning hyperparameters is a rational choice, rather than making assumptions about the model ahead of time.
You never know how data will react until you've run the statistics.
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I've been doing optimizations on binary classification for the past week+, and in every case, entropy significantly outperforms gini. This may be data set specific, but it would seem like trying both while tuning hyperparameters is a rational choice, rather than making assumptions about the model ahead of time.
You never know how data will react until you've run the statistics.
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As per parsimony principal Gini outperform entropy as of computation ease (log is obvious has more computations involved rather that plain multiplication at processor/Machine level).
But entropy definitely has an edge in some data cases involving high imbalance.
Since entropy uses log of probabilities and multiplying with probabilities of event, what is happening at background is value of lower probabilities are getting scaled up.
If your data probability distribution is exponential or Laplace (like in case of deep learning where we need probability distribution at sharp point) entropy outperform Gini.
To give an example if you have 2 events one .01 probability and other .99 probability.
In Gini Prob sq will be .01^2+.99^2, .0001 + .9801 means lower probability do not play any role as everything is govern by majority probability.
Now in case of entropy .01*log(.01)+.99*log(.99)= .01*(-2)+ .99*(-.00436)
= -.02-.00432
now in this case clearly seen lower probabilities are given better weight-age.
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As per parsimony principal Gini outperform entropy as of computation ease (log is obvious has more computations involved rather that plain multiplication at processor/Machine level).
But entropy definitely has an edge in some data cases involving high imbalance.
Since entropy uses log of probabilities and multiplying with probabilities of event, what is happening at background is value of lower probabilities are getting scaled up.
If your data probability distribution is exponential or Laplace (like in case of deep learning where we need probability distribution at sharp point) entropy outperform Gini.
To give an example if you have 2 events one .01 probability and other .99 probability.
In Gini Prob sq will be .01^2+.99^2, .0001 + .9801 means lower probability do not play any role as everything is govern by majority probability.
Now in case of entropy .01*log(.01)+.99*log(.99)= .01*(-2)+ .99*(-.00436)
= -.02-.00432
now in this case clearly seen lower probabilities are given better weight-age.
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As per parsimony principal Gini outperform entropy as of computation ease (log is obvious has more computations involved rather that plain multiplication at processor/Machine level).
But entropy definitely has an edge in some data cases involving high imbalance.
Since entropy uses log of probabilities and multiplying with probabilities of event, what is happening at background is value of lower probabilities are getting scaled up.
If your data probability distribution is exponential or Laplace (like in case of deep learning where we need probability distribution at sharp point) entropy outperform Gini.
To give an example if you have 2 events one .01 probability and other .99 probability.
In Gini Prob sq will be .01^2+.99^2, .0001 + .9801 means lower probability do not play any role as everything is govern by majority probability.
Now in case of entropy .01*log(.01)+.99*log(.99)= .01*(-2)+ .99*(-.00436)
= -.02-.00432
now in this case clearly seen lower probabilities are given better weight-age.
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As per parsimony principal Gini outperform entropy as of computation ease (log is obvious has more computations involved rather that plain multiplication at processor/Machine level).
But entropy definitely has an edge in some data cases involving high imbalance.
Since entropy uses log of probabilities and multiplying with probabilities of event, what is happening at background is value of lower probabilities are getting scaled up.
If your data probability distribution is exponential or Laplace (like in case of deep learning where we need probability distribution at sharp point) entropy outperform Gini.
To give an example if you have 2 events one .01 probability and other .99 probability.
In Gini Prob sq will be .01^2+.99^2, .0001 + .9801 means lower probability do not play any role as everything is govern by majority probability.
Now in case of entropy .01*log(.01)+.99*log(.99)= .01*(-2)+ .99*(-.00436)
= -.02-.00432
now in this case clearly seen lower probabilities are given better weight-age.
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@Anony-Mousse I guess that was obvious before your comment. The question is not if both have their advantages, but in which scenarios one is better than the other.
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– Martin Thoma
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I have proposed "Information gain" instead of "Entropy", since it is quite closer (IMHO), as marked in the related links. Then, the question was asked in a different form in When to use Gini impurity and when to use information gain?
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– Laurent Duval
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I have posted here a simple interpretation of the Gini impurity that may be helpful.
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– Picaud Vincent
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