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Is there a word or phrase to describe someone who is NOT formally trained at something — yet he/she IS GOOD AT IT?



The person could be good at drawing/art, or mathematics, or carpentry, or boxing, or a musical instrument, etc.



I thought the word for what I described is "UNTUTORED" because according to Collins Dictionary:



👉 UNTUTORED = adjective ▸ "If someone is untutored, they have not been formally trained to do something, although they may be quite skilled at it." 👈



One of the two example sentences Collins offered was:



➔ 'This untutored mathematician had an obsession with numbers.'



So because of Collins's definition, I took "untutored" as having to do with innate abilities, like a kid who happens to draw so great, or have a knack for a musical instrument — BEFORE any formal training.



But the problem is NO other dictionary defines "untutored" this way. ALL the others define it along the lines of "lacking in schooling".



So any help in describing «being good at something without being trained in it» would be appreciated.










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Is there a word or phrase to describe someone who is NOT formally trained at something — yet he/she IS GOOD AT IT?



The person could be good at drawing/art, or mathematics, or carpentry, or boxing, or a musical instrument, etc.



I thought the word for what I described is "UNTUTORED" because according to Collins Dictionary:



👉 UNTUTORED = adjective ▸ "If someone is untutored, they have not been formally trained to do something, although they may be quite skilled at it." 👈



One of the two example sentences Collins offered was:



➔ 'This untutored mathematician had an obsession with numbers.'



So because of Collins's definition, I took "untutored" as having to do with innate abilities, like a kid who happens to draw so great, or have a knack for a musical instrument — BEFORE any formal training.



But the problem is NO other dictionary defines "untutored" this way. ALL the others define it along the lines of "lacking in schooling".



So any help in describing «being good at something without being trained in it» would be appreciated.










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Is there a word or phrase to describe someone who is NOT formally trained at something — yet he/she IS GOOD AT IT?



The person could be good at drawing/art, or mathematics, or carpentry, or boxing, or a musical instrument, etc.



I thought the word for what I described is "UNTUTORED" because according to Collins Dictionary:



👉 UNTUTORED = adjective ▸ "If someone is untutored, they have not been formally trained to do something, although they may be quite skilled at it." 👈



One of the two example sentences Collins offered was:



➔ 'This untutored mathematician had an obsession with numbers.'



So because of Collins's definition, I took "untutored" as having to do with innate abilities, like a kid who happens to draw so great, or have a knack for a musical instrument — BEFORE any formal training.



But the problem is NO other dictionary defines "untutored" this way. ALL the others define it along the lines of "lacking in schooling".



So any help in describing «being good at something without being trained in it» would be appreciated.










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Is there a word or phrase to describe someone who is NOT formally trained at something — yet he/she IS GOOD AT IT?



The person could be good at drawing/art, or mathematics, or carpentry, or boxing, or a musical instrument, etc.



I thought the word for what I described is "UNTUTORED" because according to Collins Dictionary:



👉 UNTUTORED = adjective ▸ "If someone is untutored, they have not been formally trained to do something, although they may be quite skilled at it." 👈



One of the two example sentences Collins offered was:



➔ 'This untutored mathematician had an obsession with numbers.'



So because of Collins's definition, I took "untutored" as having to do with innate abilities, like a kid who happens to draw so great, or have a knack for a musical instrument — BEFORE any formal training.



But the problem is NO other dictionary defines "untutored" this way. ALL the others define it along the lines of "lacking in schooling".



So any help in describing «being good at something without being trained in it» would be appreciated.







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a natural-born X TFD idiom




Possessing an ability innately. The term is always used as a modifier
before a noun.




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My daughter is a natural-born chef.






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    Often these sorts of people are called "naturals" -- "Wow, your kid is a real natural at basketball! I can't believe he's never had a coach!"



    Such people, especially children, may also be called "prodigies", which mildly-suggests that they were pretty good before training, but doesn't rule out training per se. Some English speakers have adopted the German term, wunderkind.



    I think you're correct in shunning 'untutored' for this application.






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      In some contexts "self-taught" might be appropriate.






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        Well! It's taken me a little while combing through some dictionaries and thesauruses, I believe "Innate" is the word you are looking for.
        Innate: adjective:
        1.) Existing in an animal or a person from birth; congenital; inborn
        2.) Instinctive; Not Learned
        3.) (In rationalist Philosophy)(of Ideas) present in the mind before any experience and knowable by pure reason
        Instinctive; Intuitive; Natural; Prodigy; Constitutional






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          a natural-born X TFD idiom




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          My daughter is a natural-born chef.






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            a natural-born X TFD idiom




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            My daughter is a natural-born chef.






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              My daughter is a natural-born chef.







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                  Often these sorts of people are called "naturals" -- "Wow, your kid is a real natural at basketball! I can't believe he's never had a coach!"



                  Such people, especially children, may also be called "prodigies", which mildly-suggests that they were pretty good before training, but doesn't rule out training per se. Some English speakers have adopted the German term, wunderkind.



                  I think you're correct in shunning 'untutored' for this application.






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                    Often these sorts of people are called "naturals" -- "Wow, your kid is a real natural at basketball! I can't believe he's never had a coach!"



                    Such people, especially children, may also be called "prodigies", which mildly-suggests that they were pretty good before training, but doesn't rule out training per se. Some English speakers have adopted the German term, wunderkind.



                    I think you're correct in shunning 'untutored' for this application.






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                      Often these sorts of people are called "naturals" -- "Wow, your kid is a real natural at basketball! I can't believe he's never had a coach!"



                      Such people, especially children, may also be called "prodigies", which mildly-suggests that they were pretty good before training, but doesn't rule out training per se. Some English speakers have adopted the German term, wunderkind.



                      I think you're correct in shunning 'untutored' for this application.






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                      Such people, especially children, may also be called "prodigies", which mildly-suggests that they were pretty good before training, but doesn't rule out training per se. Some English speakers have adopted the German term, wunderkind.



                      I think you're correct in shunning 'untutored' for this application.







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                          In some contexts "self-taught" might be appropriate.






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                                  Well! It's taken me a little while combing through some dictionaries and thesauruses, I believe "Innate" is the word you are looking for.
                                  Innate: adjective:
                                  1.) Existing in an animal or a person from birth; congenital; inborn
                                  2.) Instinctive; Not Learned
                                  3.) (In rationalist Philosophy)(of Ideas) present in the mind before any experience and knowable by pure reason
                                  Instinctive; Intuitive; Natural; Prodigy; Constitutional






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                                    Innate: adjective:
                                    1.) Existing in an animal or a person from birth; congenital; inborn
                                    2.) Instinctive; Not Learned
                                    3.) (In rationalist Philosophy)(of Ideas) present in the mind before any experience and knowable by pure reason
                                    Instinctive; Intuitive; Natural; Prodigy; Constitutional






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                                      Well! It's taken me a little while combing through some dictionaries and thesauruses, I believe "Innate" is the word you are looking for.
                                      Innate: adjective:
                                      1.) Existing in an animal or a person from birth; congenital; inborn
                                      2.) Instinctive; Not Learned
                                      3.) (In rationalist Philosophy)(of Ideas) present in the mind before any experience and knowable by pure reason
                                      Instinctive; Intuitive; Natural; Prodigy; Constitutional






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                                      Innate: adjective:
                                      1.) Existing in an animal or a person from birth; congenital; inborn
                                      2.) Instinctive; Not Learned
                                      3.) (In rationalist Philosophy)(of Ideas) present in the mind before any experience and knowable by pure reason
                                      Instinctive; Intuitive; Natural; Prodigy; Constitutional







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