Where did Jack get his compass from?





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In the earlier films it is said that Jack bartered for the compass from Tia Dalma. However, in the newest film during Salazar's flashback it shows that the captain of his ship is wounded and hands the compass to Jack.



So how did Jack get his compass and why does this feel like a discrepancy in the plot?










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In the earlier films it is said that Jack bartered for the compass from Tia Dalma. However, in the newest film during Salazar's flashback it shows that the captain of his ship is wounded and hands the compass to Jack.



So how did Jack get his compass and why does this feel like a discrepancy in the plot?










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In the earlier films it is said that Jack bartered for the compass from Tia Dalma. However, in the newest film during Salazar's flashback it shows that the captain of his ship is wounded and hands the compass to Jack.



So how did Jack get his compass and why does this feel like a discrepancy in the plot?










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In the earlier films it is said that Jack bartered for the compass from Tia Dalma. However, in the newest film during Salazar's flashback it shows that the captain of his ship is wounded and hands the compass to Jack.



So how did Jack get his compass and why does this feel like a discrepancy in the plot?







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    Related on M&TV: Where did Sparrow's compass really come from?

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Related on M&TV: Where did Sparrow's compass really come from?

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We don't know.



There is no official explanation as to why both different events have happened. We can only theorize. As the other answer says, Jack may have won the compass twice, but I disagree (as that would seem to imply he betrayed the compass before, which would have released Salazar before).



From the wiki:




Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.






We can theorize, however...



A more logical explanation in my opinion, is that he bartered the compass for his captain, not for himself. In other words, the compass was only his after his Captain's death, when he actually inherited it. Previously, he bargained for it in his captain's behalf. It seems to fit quite nicely with the story, leaves some leeway as to why his previous captain wanted it or cursed Salazar with it, and works well with both perspectives of the story.






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  • Note that the compass's owner's greatest fear is only released when the owner betrays it. He could have had it stolen, lost it etc and still not betrayed it. There's no explanation of what happens between him bartering it off of Tia Dalma to getting it from the Captain. My answer is more accurate in that regard but I do like your theory as well.

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  • Surely this answer is more incorrect as well, if he bartered it off of Tia Dalma for the Captain he would have been the compass's owner in the interim so giving it to the Captain would have been betraying it. This wouldn't have released Salazar of course (that hadn't happened yet) but would have released his greatest fear at that moment in time.

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  • I agree which is what my answer states already :)

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According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Jack Sparrow got compass from Tia Dalma.




Tia Dalma: The Compass you bartered from me. It cannot lead you to dis?




According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales Jack Sparrow got compass from the captain of a ship.



Actually story and screen play has been written by different writers and they have not followed the exact logic, they have written which logic that suits for that particular part in the movie series.



There is nothing much to think about the logic since movie series continues with new stories and of course by taking few links and leads from prequels.






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    I'm not sure exactly how canon it is but according to the Pirates Wiki page on the Compass:




    Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.




    So apparently he bartered it from Tia Dalma, somehow lost it, gave it away, or alternative and then got it back in the flashback scene we see in Dead Men Tell no Tales.



    The same page goes on to say:




    However, the compass somehow found its way into the hands of the pirate captain of the Wicked Wench, under whom Jack was serving at the time.




    So it appears to be unclear how the compass left Jack after he bartered it off of Tia Dalma till it comes back to him again.






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    • And how is this different from what is described in your question? Unless the Wiki cites reliable sources, it's not worth much itself. For all we know, it was written after someone saw your question here.

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      @Gallifreyan My question is that it seems to be that the two events contradict each other i.e. two different origins. However, it appears that they both occur and so Jack essentially gets the compass twice.

      – TheLethalCarrot
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    • As often as it comes up in the latest movie, one of the alternatives might be tribute. Or it was intended for the ship somehow when he originally bartered for it. Something like that.

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    • If it was a boat and no compass I would say the crew mutineered again (which is somehow his trope that his own crew takes HIS ship from him time and time again).

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      @TheLethalCoder the history of the compass: Was his.....lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back. Reminded me of the black pearl (he got it, crew mutineered he lost it, got it back, crew mutineered he lost it, he got it bac,...). It seems to be a very recurring theme with him.

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    Tia Dalma said he bartered it, right? Maybe she gave him the location of the compass in exchange for him trapping Salazar or some other favor. Obviously, this is still speculation, but it would explain why he had to get the compass from the captain, and could still be considered a barter exchange with Tia Dalma.






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      I think the compass was Jack's tribute to his captain. This would eliminate any contradiction between the two events. Jack barters the compass from Tia Dalma, which at some point ends up as a tribute to his captain, who cherishes the compass as his most valuable property, even incorporating it into his will. The dying captain, then entrusts the compass back to Jack.

      When the compass is offered with a purpose (William Turner when tossing dead bodies: At World's End/ Mr. Gibbs: On Stranger Tides...) , taken ( Blackbeard: On Stranger Tides...), it is not considered a betrayal. My point is, offering it as a tribute won't release your darkest fear.






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        The thing I can think of is he got it from his captain lost it and then found it in Tia Dalma's possession and then bartered to get it back! We might find out more in the next movie.






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        • Can you provide any confirmation to your theory?

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        We don't know.



        There is no official explanation as to why both different events have happened. We can only theorize. As the other answer says, Jack may have won the compass twice, but I disagree (as that would seem to imply he betrayed the compass before, which would have released Salazar before).



        From the wiki:




        Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.






        We can theorize, however...



        A more logical explanation in my opinion, is that he bartered the compass for his captain, not for himself. In other words, the compass was only his after his Captain's death, when he actually inherited it. Previously, he bargained for it in his captain's behalf. It seems to fit quite nicely with the story, leaves some leeway as to why his previous captain wanted it or cursed Salazar with it, and works well with both perspectives of the story.






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        • Note that the compass's owner's greatest fear is only released when the owner betrays it. He could have had it stolen, lost it etc and still not betrayed it. There's no explanation of what happens between him bartering it off of Tia Dalma to getting it from the Captain. My answer is more accurate in that regard but I do like your theory as well.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:46













        • Surely this answer is more incorrect as well, if he bartered it off of Tia Dalma for the Captain he would have been the compass's owner in the interim so giving it to the Captain would have been betraying it. This wouldn't have released Salazar of course (that hadn't happened yet) but would have released his greatest fear at that moment in time.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:48











        • I agree which is what my answer states already :)

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:53
















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        We don't know.



        There is no official explanation as to why both different events have happened. We can only theorize. As the other answer says, Jack may have won the compass twice, but I disagree (as that would seem to imply he betrayed the compass before, which would have released Salazar before).



        From the wiki:




        Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.






        We can theorize, however...



        A more logical explanation in my opinion, is that he bartered the compass for his captain, not for himself. In other words, the compass was only his after his Captain's death, when he actually inherited it. Previously, he bargained for it in his captain's behalf. It seems to fit quite nicely with the story, leaves some leeway as to why his previous captain wanted it or cursed Salazar with it, and works well with both perspectives of the story.






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        • Note that the compass's owner's greatest fear is only released when the owner betrays it. He could have had it stolen, lost it etc and still not betrayed it. There's no explanation of what happens between him bartering it off of Tia Dalma to getting it from the Captain. My answer is more accurate in that regard but I do like your theory as well.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:46













        • Surely this answer is more incorrect as well, if he bartered it off of Tia Dalma for the Captain he would have been the compass's owner in the interim so giving it to the Captain would have been betraying it. This wouldn't have released Salazar of course (that hadn't happened yet) but would have released his greatest fear at that moment in time.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:48











        • I agree which is what my answer states already :)

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:53














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        We don't know.



        There is no official explanation as to why both different events have happened. We can only theorize. As the other answer says, Jack may have won the compass twice, but I disagree (as that would seem to imply he betrayed the compass before, which would have released Salazar before).



        From the wiki:




        Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.






        We can theorize, however...



        A more logical explanation in my opinion, is that he bartered the compass for his captain, not for himself. In other words, the compass was only his after his Captain's death, when he actually inherited it. Previously, he bargained for it in his captain's behalf. It seems to fit quite nicely with the story, leaves some leeway as to why his previous captain wanted it or cursed Salazar with it, and works well with both perspectives of the story.






        share|improve this answer















        We don't know.



        There is no official explanation as to why both different events have happened. We can only theorize. As the other answer says, Jack may have won the compass twice, but I disagree (as that would seem to imply he betrayed the compass before, which would have released Salazar before).



        From the wiki:




        Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.






        We can theorize, however...



        A more logical explanation in my opinion, is that he bartered the compass for his captain, not for himself. In other words, the compass was only his after his Captain's death, when he actually inherited it. Previously, he bargained for it in his captain's behalf. It seems to fit quite nicely with the story, leaves some leeway as to why his previous captain wanted it or cursed Salazar with it, and works well with both perspectives of the story.







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        • Note that the compass's owner's greatest fear is only released when the owner betrays it. He could have had it stolen, lost it etc and still not betrayed it. There's no explanation of what happens between him bartering it off of Tia Dalma to getting it from the Captain. My answer is more accurate in that regard but I do like your theory as well.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:46













        • Surely this answer is more incorrect as well, if he bartered it off of Tia Dalma for the Captain he would have been the compass's owner in the interim so giving it to the Captain would have been betraying it. This wouldn't have released Salazar of course (that hadn't happened yet) but would have released his greatest fear at that moment in time.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:48











        • I agree which is what my answer states already :)

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:53



















        • Note that the compass's owner's greatest fear is only released when the owner betrays it. He could have had it stolen, lost it etc and still not betrayed it. There's no explanation of what happens between him bartering it off of Tia Dalma to getting it from the Captain. My answer is more accurate in that regard but I do like your theory as well.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:46













        • Surely this answer is more incorrect as well, if he bartered it off of Tia Dalma for the Captain he would have been the compass's owner in the interim so giving it to the Captain would have been betraying it. This wouldn't have released Salazar of course (that hadn't happened yet) but would have released his greatest fear at that moment in time.

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:48











        • I agree which is what my answer states already :)

          – TheLethalCarrot
          Jun 6 '17 at 10:53

















        Note that the compass's owner's greatest fear is only released when the owner betrays it. He could have had it stolen, lost it etc and still not betrayed it. There's no explanation of what happens between him bartering it off of Tia Dalma to getting it from the Captain. My answer is more accurate in that regard but I do like your theory as well.

        – TheLethalCarrot
        Jun 6 '17 at 10:46







        Note that the compass's owner's greatest fear is only released when the owner betrays it. He could have had it stolen, lost it etc and still not betrayed it. There's no explanation of what happens between him bartering it off of Tia Dalma to getting it from the Captain. My answer is more accurate in that regard but I do like your theory as well.

        – TheLethalCarrot
        Jun 6 '17 at 10:46















        Surely this answer is more incorrect as well, if he bartered it off of Tia Dalma for the Captain he would have been the compass's owner in the interim so giving it to the Captain would have been betraying it. This wouldn't have released Salazar of course (that hadn't happened yet) but would have released his greatest fear at that moment in time.

        – TheLethalCarrot
        Jun 6 '17 at 10:48





        Surely this answer is more incorrect as well, if he bartered it off of Tia Dalma for the Captain he would have been the compass's owner in the interim so giving it to the Captain would have been betraying it. This wouldn't have released Salazar of course (that hadn't happened yet) but would have released his greatest fear at that moment in time.

        – TheLethalCarrot
        Jun 6 '17 at 10:48













        I agree which is what my answer states already :)

        – TheLethalCarrot
        Jun 6 '17 at 10:53





        I agree which is what my answer states already :)

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        According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Jack Sparrow got compass from Tia Dalma.




        Tia Dalma: The Compass you bartered from me. It cannot lead you to dis?




        According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales Jack Sparrow got compass from the captain of a ship.



        Actually story and screen play has been written by different writers and they have not followed the exact logic, they have written which logic that suits for that particular part in the movie series.



        There is nothing much to think about the logic since movie series continues with new stories and of course by taking few links and leads from prequels.






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          According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Jack Sparrow got compass from Tia Dalma.




          Tia Dalma: The Compass you bartered from me. It cannot lead you to dis?




          According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales Jack Sparrow got compass from the captain of a ship.



          Actually story and screen play has been written by different writers and they have not followed the exact logic, they have written which logic that suits for that particular part in the movie series.



          There is nothing much to think about the logic since movie series continues with new stories and of course by taking few links and leads from prequels.






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            According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Jack Sparrow got compass from Tia Dalma.




            Tia Dalma: The Compass you bartered from me. It cannot lead you to dis?




            According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales Jack Sparrow got compass from the captain of a ship.



            Actually story and screen play has been written by different writers and they have not followed the exact logic, they have written which logic that suits for that particular part in the movie series.



            There is nothing much to think about the logic since movie series continues with new stories and of course by taking few links and leads from prequels.






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            According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest Jack Sparrow got compass from Tia Dalma.




            Tia Dalma: The Compass you bartered from me. It cannot lead you to dis?




            According to Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Men Tell No Tales Jack Sparrow got compass from the captain of a ship.



            Actually story and screen play has been written by different writers and they have not followed the exact logic, they have written which logic that suits for that particular part in the movie series.



            There is nothing much to think about the logic since movie series continues with new stories and of course by taking few links and leads from prequels.







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                I'm not sure exactly how canon it is but according to the Pirates Wiki page on the Compass:




                Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.




                So apparently he bartered it from Tia Dalma, somehow lost it, gave it away, or alternative and then got it back in the flashback scene we see in Dead Men Tell no Tales.



                The same page goes on to say:




                However, the compass somehow found its way into the hands of the pirate captain of the Wicked Wench, under whom Jack was serving at the time.




                So it appears to be unclear how the compass left Jack after he bartered it off of Tia Dalma till it comes back to him again.






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                • And how is this different from what is described in your question? Unless the Wiki cites reliable sources, it's not worth much itself. For all we know, it was written after someone saw your question here.

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                  @Gallifreyan My question is that it seems to be that the two events contradict each other i.e. two different origins. However, it appears that they both occur and so Jack essentially gets the compass twice.

                  – TheLethalCarrot
                  Jun 5 '17 at 15:55











                • As often as it comes up in the latest movie, one of the alternatives might be tribute. Or it was intended for the ship somehow when he originally bartered for it. Something like that.

                  – Megha
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                • If it was a boat and no compass I would say the crew mutineered again (which is somehow his trope that his own crew takes HIS ship from him time and time again).

                  – Thomas
                  Jun 6 '17 at 12:00






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                  @TheLethalCoder the history of the compass: Was his.....lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back. Reminded me of the black pearl (he got it, crew mutineered he lost it, got it back, crew mutineered he lost it, he got it bac,...). It seems to be a very recurring theme with him.

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                I'm not sure exactly how canon it is but according to the Pirates Wiki page on the Compass:




                Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.




                So apparently he bartered it from Tia Dalma, somehow lost it, gave it away, or alternative and then got it back in the flashback scene we see in Dead Men Tell no Tales.



                The same page goes on to say:




                However, the compass somehow found its way into the hands of the pirate captain of the Wicked Wench, under whom Jack was serving at the time.




                So it appears to be unclear how the compass left Jack after he bartered it off of Tia Dalma till it comes back to him again.






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                • And how is this different from what is described in your question? Unless the Wiki cites reliable sources, it's not worth much itself. For all we know, it was written after someone saw your question here.

                  – Gallifreyan
                  Jun 5 '17 at 15:52








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                  @Gallifreyan My question is that it seems to be that the two events contradict each other i.e. two different origins. However, it appears that they both occur and so Jack essentially gets the compass twice.

                  – TheLethalCarrot
                  Jun 5 '17 at 15:55











                • As often as it comes up in the latest movie, one of the alternatives might be tribute. Or it was intended for the ship somehow when he originally bartered for it. Something like that.

                  – Megha
                  Jun 6 '17 at 2:36











                • If it was a boat and no compass I would say the crew mutineered again (which is somehow his trope that his own crew takes HIS ship from him time and time again).

                  – Thomas
                  Jun 6 '17 at 12:00






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                  @TheLethalCoder the history of the compass: Was his.....lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back. Reminded me of the black pearl (he got it, crew mutineered he lost it, got it back, crew mutineered he lost it, he got it bac,...). It seems to be a very recurring theme with him.

                  – Thomas
                  Jun 6 '17 at 12:08














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                I'm not sure exactly how canon it is but according to the Pirates Wiki page on the Compass:




                Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.




                So apparently he bartered it from Tia Dalma, somehow lost it, gave it away, or alternative and then got it back in the flashback scene we see in Dead Men Tell no Tales.



                The same page goes on to say:




                However, the compass somehow found its way into the hands of the pirate captain of the Wicked Wench, under whom Jack was serving at the time.




                So it appears to be unclear how the compass left Jack after he bartered it off of Tia Dalma till it comes back to him again.






                share|improve this answer















                I'm not sure exactly how canon it is but according to the Pirates Wiki page on the Compass:




                Jack Sparrow's compass was an unusual navigational instrument most notably used by Captain Jack Sparrow, which he bartered from the voodoo mystic Tia Dalma and later inherited from his captain.




                So apparently he bartered it from Tia Dalma, somehow lost it, gave it away, or alternative and then got it back in the flashback scene we see in Dead Men Tell no Tales.



                The same page goes on to say:




                However, the compass somehow found its way into the hands of the pirate captain of the Wicked Wench, under whom Jack was serving at the time.




                So it appears to be unclear how the compass left Jack after he bartered it off of Tia Dalma till it comes back to him again.







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                • And how is this different from what is described in your question? Unless the Wiki cites reliable sources, it's not worth much itself. For all we know, it was written after someone saw your question here.

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                  @Gallifreyan My question is that it seems to be that the two events contradict each other i.e. two different origins. However, it appears that they both occur and so Jack essentially gets the compass twice.

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                • As often as it comes up in the latest movie, one of the alternatives might be tribute. Or it was intended for the ship somehow when he originally bartered for it. Something like that.

                  – Megha
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                • If it was a boat and no compass I would say the crew mutineered again (which is somehow his trope that his own crew takes HIS ship from him time and time again).

                  – Thomas
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                  @TheLethalCoder the history of the compass: Was his.....lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back. Reminded me of the black pearl (he got it, crew mutineered he lost it, got it back, crew mutineered he lost it, he got it bac,...). It seems to be a very recurring theme with him.

                  – Thomas
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                • And how is this different from what is described in your question? Unless the Wiki cites reliable sources, it's not worth much itself. For all we know, it was written after someone saw your question here.

                  – Gallifreyan
                  Jun 5 '17 at 15:52








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                  @Gallifreyan My question is that it seems to be that the two events contradict each other i.e. two different origins. However, it appears that they both occur and so Jack essentially gets the compass twice.

                  – TheLethalCarrot
                  Jun 5 '17 at 15:55











                • As often as it comes up in the latest movie, one of the alternatives might be tribute. Or it was intended for the ship somehow when he originally bartered for it. Something like that.

                  – Megha
                  Jun 6 '17 at 2:36











                • If it was a boat and no compass I would say the crew mutineered again (which is somehow his trope that his own crew takes HIS ship from him time and time again).

                  – Thomas
                  Jun 6 '17 at 12:00






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                  @TheLethalCoder the history of the compass: Was his.....lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back. Reminded me of the black pearl (he got it, crew mutineered he lost it, got it back, crew mutineered he lost it, he got it bac,...). It seems to be a very recurring theme with him.

                  – Thomas
                  Jun 6 '17 at 12:08

















                And how is this different from what is described in your question? Unless the Wiki cites reliable sources, it's not worth much itself. For all we know, it was written after someone saw your question here.

                – Gallifreyan
                Jun 5 '17 at 15:52







                And how is this different from what is described in your question? Unless the Wiki cites reliable sources, it's not worth much itself. For all we know, it was written after someone saw your question here.

                – Gallifreyan
                Jun 5 '17 at 15:52






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                @Gallifreyan My question is that it seems to be that the two events contradict each other i.e. two different origins. However, it appears that they both occur and so Jack essentially gets the compass twice.

                – TheLethalCarrot
                Jun 5 '17 at 15:55





                @Gallifreyan My question is that it seems to be that the two events contradict each other i.e. two different origins. However, it appears that they both occur and so Jack essentially gets the compass twice.

                – TheLethalCarrot
                Jun 5 '17 at 15:55













                As often as it comes up in the latest movie, one of the alternatives might be tribute. Or it was intended for the ship somehow when he originally bartered for it. Something like that.

                – Megha
                Jun 6 '17 at 2:36





                As often as it comes up in the latest movie, one of the alternatives might be tribute. Or it was intended for the ship somehow when he originally bartered for it. Something like that.

                – Megha
                Jun 6 '17 at 2:36













                If it was a boat and no compass I would say the crew mutineered again (which is somehow his trope that his own crew takes HIS ship from him time and time again).

                – Thomas
                Jun 6 '17 at 12:00





                If it was a boat and no compass I would say the crew mutineered again (which is somehow his trope that his own crew takes HIS ship from him time and time again).

                – Thomas
                Jun 6 '17 at 12:00




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                @TheLethalCoder the history of the compass: Was his.....lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back. Reminded me of the black pearl (he got it, crew mutineered he lost it, got it back, crew mutineered he lost it, he got it bac,...). It seems to be a very recurring theme with him.

                – Thomas
                Jun 6 '17 at 12:08





                @TheLethalCoder the history of the compass: Was his.....lost it, got it back, lost it, got it back. Reminded me of the black pearl (he got it, crew mutineered he lost it, got it back, crew mutineered he lost it, he got it bac,...). It seems to be a very recurring theme with him.

                – Thomas
                Jun 6 '17 at 12:08











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                Tia Dalma said he bartered it, right? Maybe she gave him the location of the compass in exchange for him trapping Salazar or some other favor. Obviously, this is still speculation, but it would explain why he had to get the compass from the captain, and could still be considered a barter exchange with Tia Dalma.






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                  Tia Dalma said he bartered it, right? Maybe she gave him the location of the compass in exchange for him trapping Salazar or some other favor. Obviously, this is still speculation, but it would explain why he had to get the compass from the captain, and could still be considered a barter exchange with Tia Dalma.






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                    Tia Dalma said he bartered it, right? Maybe she gave him the location of the compass in exchange for him trapping Salazar or some other favor. Obviously, this is still speculation, but it would explain why he had to get the compass from the captain, and could still be considered a barter exchange with Tia Dalma.






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                    Tia Dalma said he bartered it, right? Maybe she gave him the location of the compass in exchange for him trapping Salazar or some other favor. Obviously, this is still speculation, but it would explain why he had to get the compass from the captain, and could still be considered a barter exchange with Tia Dalma.







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                        I think the compass was Jack's tribute to his captain. This would eliminate any contradiction between the two events. Jack barters the compass from Tia Dalma, which at some point ends up as a tribute to his captain, who cherishes the compass as his most valuable property, even incorporating it into his will. The dying captain, then entrusts the compass back to Jack.

                        When the compass is offered with a purpose (William Turner when tossing dead bodies: At World's End/ Mr. Gibbs: On Stranger Tides...) , taken ( Blackbeard: On Stranger Tides...), it is not considered a betrayal. My point is, offering it as a tribute won't release your darkest fear.






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                          I think the compass was Jack's tribute to his captain. This would eliminate any contradiction between the two events. Jack barters the compass from Tia Dalma, which at some point ends up as a tribute to his captain, who cherishes the compass as his most valuable property, even incorporating it into his will. The dying captain, then entrusts the compass back to Jack.

                          When the compass is offered with a purpose (William Turner when tossing dead bodies: At World's End/ Mr. Gibbs: On Stranger Tides...) , taken ( Blackbeard: On Stranger Tides...), it is not considered a betrayal. My point is, offering it as a tribute won't release your darkest fear.






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                            I think the compass was Jack's tribute to his captain. This would eliminate any contradiction between the two events. Jack barters the compass from Tia Dalma, which at some point ends up as a tribute to his captain, who cherishes the compass as his most valuable property, even incorporating it into his will. The dying captain, then entrusts the compass back to Jack.

                            When the compass is offered with a purpose (William Turner when tossing dead bodies: At World's End/ Mr. Gibbs: On Stranger Tides...) , taken ( Blackbeard: On Stranger Tides...), it is not considered a betrayal. My point is, offering it as a tribute won't release your darkest fear.






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                            I think the compass was Jack's tribute to his captain. This would eliminate any contradiction between the two events. Jack barters the compass from Tia Dalma, which at some point ends up as a tribute to his captain, who cherishes the compass as his most valuable property, even incorporating it into his will. The dying captain, then entrusts the compass back to Jack.

                            When the compass is offered with a purpose (William Turner when tossing dead bodies: At World's End/ Mr. Gibbs: On Stranger Tides...) , taken ( Blackbeard: On Stranger Tides...), it is not considered a betrayal. My point is, offering it as a tribute won't release your darkest fear.







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                                The thing I can think of is he got it from his captain lost it and then found it in Tia Dalma's possession and then bartered to get it back! We might find out more in the next movie.






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                                The thing I can think of is he got it from his captain lost it and then found it in Tia Dalma's possession and then bartered to get it back! We might find out more in the next movie.






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                                The thing I can think of is he got it from his captain lost it and then found it in Tia Dalma's possession and then bartered to get it back! We might find out more in the next movie.






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                                The thing I can think of is he got it from his captain lost it and then found it in Tia Dalma's possession and then bartered to get it back! We might find out more in the next movie.







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                                • Can you provide any confirmation to your theory?

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