What do these square notes mean (in the left hand)?
What are this notes about? I had to learn this piece in 8-27-1963 in my first year at the music conservatory in Bern.
The notes look like square notation, but the music was written in 20th. century.
It’s nr. 102 of Bela Bartok’s “mikrokosmos”.
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Albrecht HügliAlbrecht Hügli
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What are this notes about? I had to learn this piece in 8-27-1963 in my first year at the music conservatory in Bern.
The notes look like square notation, but the music was written in 20th. century.
It’s nr. 102 of Bela Bartok’s “mikrokosmos”.
piano notation
asked 2 hours ago
Albrecht HügliAlbrecht Hügli
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At least post a pic of the sheet music.
– ggcg
2 hours ago
Sorry, the upload doesn’t function. I’ve tried already 3 times ...
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
I've removed the meta aspects of your question. You can answer your own question if you know the answer.
– Dom♦
1 hour ago
How do you keep that l.h. chord sounding? Even pedalling it won't last that long. And why is it written with no key sig., when the B chord is a clue?
– Tim
1 hour ago
O.K. your edition is accept, Dom. I will edit the question and poste the source now.
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
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What are this notes about? I had to learn this piece in 8-27-1963 in my first year at the music conservatory in Bern.
The notes look like square notation, but the music was written in 20th. century.
It’s nr. 102 of Bela Bartok’s “mikrokosmos”.
piano notation
asked 2 hours ago
Albrecht HügliAlbrecht Hügli
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What are this notes about? I had to learn this piece in 8-27-1963 in my first year at the music conservatory in Bern.
The notes look like square notation, but the music was written in 20th. century.
It’s nr. 102 of Bela Bartok’s “mikrokosmos”.
piano notation
piano notation
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At least post a pic of the sheet music.
– ggcg
2 hours ago
Sorry, the upload doesn’t function. I’ve tried already 3 times ...
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
I've removed the meta aspects of your question. You can answer your own question if you know the answer.
– Dom♦
1 hour ago
How do you keep that l.h. chord sounding? Even pedalling it won't last that long. And why is it written with no key sig., when the B chord is a clue?
– Tim
1 hour ago
O.K. your edition is accept, Dom. I will edit the question and poste the source now.
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
|
show 3 more comments
1
At least post a pic of the sheet music.
– ggcg
2 hours ago
Sorry, the upload doesn’t function. I’ve tried already 3 times ...
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
I've removed the meta aspects of your question. You can answer your own question if you know the answer.
– Dom♦
1 hour ago
How do you keep that l.h. chord sounding? Even pedalling it won't last that long. And why is it written with no key sig., when the B chord is a clue?
– Tim
1 hour ago
O.K. your edition is accept, Dom. I will edit the question and poste the source now.
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
1
1
At least post a pic of the sheet music.
– ggcg
2 hours ago
At least post a pic of the sheet music.
– ggcg
2 hours ago
Sorry, the upload doesn’t function. I’ve tried already 3 times ...
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
Sorry, the upload doesn’t function. I’ve tried already 3 times ...
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
I've removed the meta aspects of your question. You can answer your own question if you know the answer.
– Dom♦
1 hour ago
I've removed the meta aspects of your question. You can answer your own question if you know the answer.
– Dom♦
1 hour ago
How do you keep that l.h. chord sounding? Even pedalling it won't last that long. And why is it written with no key sig., when the B chord is a clue?
– Tim
1 hour ago
How do you keep that l.h. chord sounding? Even pedalling it won't last that long. And why is it written with no key sig., when the B chord is a clue?
– Tim
1 hour ago
O.K. your edition is accept, Dom. I will edit the question and poste the source now.
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
O.K. your edition is accept, Dom. I will edit the question and poste the source now.
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
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I believe the square notes (usually called diamonds) indicate keys that are silently depressed and held down. This technique allows those notes to ring sympathetically when the right hand notes are played. This specific piece is mentioned in this Wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_extended_technique
The relevant passage:
Composers such as Béla Bartók started to look at the piano as a more percussive instrument and explored various techniques to achieve percussive effects. His Bagatelles and Mikrokosmos (the series of works for the instruction of young pianists) both contain unusual instructions to the pianist. He even used special notation for certain of them: "hold keys silently" is indicated by square note heads rather than the usual round ones.
Lastly, the "1)" above first chord probably indicates a composer's note somewhere in the score, so that will give you the definitive answer.
answered 52 mins ago
PeterPeter
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Oh, Brilliant! I'd accept this if it were possible! Bravo, Peter!
– user45266
50 mins ago
2
@user45266 Yes, this answer is correct. Just a note, although I see why you describe them as squares, these noteheads are generally referred to as diamonds. The same diamond noteheads are often used for harmonics on string instruments.
– Pat Muchmore
42 mins ago
@PatMuchmore Yes, I've usually heard them referred to as diamonds as well, but both the OP and the Wikipedia article used the term "square." Truly square noteheads (basically like what's shown but rotated 45 degrees) also exist.
– Peter
23 mins ago
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I believe the square notes (usually called diamonds) indicate keys that are silently depressed and held down. This technique allows those notes to ring sympathetically when the right hand notes are played. This specific piece is mentioned in this Wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_extended_technique
The relevant passage:
Composers such as Béla Bartók started to look at the piano as a more percussive instrument and explored various techniques to achieve percussive effects. His Bagatelles and Mikrokosmos (the series of works for the instruction of young pianists) both contain unusual instructions to the pianist. He even used special notation for certain of them: "hold keys silently" is indicated by square note heads rather than the usual round ones.
Lastly, the "1)" above first chord probably indicates a composer's note somewhere in the score, so that will give you the definitive answer.
answered 52 mins ago
PeterPeter
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Oh, Brilliant! I'd accept this if it were possible! Bravo, Peter!
– user45266
50 mins ago
2
@user45266 Yes, this answer is correct. Just a note, although I see why you describe them as squares, these noteheads are generally referred to as diamonds. The same diamond noteheads are often used for harmonics on string instruments.
– Pat Muchmore
42 mins ago
@PatMuchmore Yes, I've usually heard them referred to as diamonds as well, but both the OP and the Wikipedia article used the term "square." Truly square noteheads (basically like what's shown but rotated 45 degrees) also exist.
– Peter
23 mins ago
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I believe the square notes (usually called diamonds) indicate keys that are silently depressed and held down. This technique allows those notes to ring sympathetically when the right hand notes are played. This specific piece is mentioned in this Wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_extended_technique
The relevant passage:
Composers such as Béla Bartók started to look at the piano as a more percussive instrument and explored various techniques to achieve percussive effects. His Bagatelles and Mikrokosmos (the series of works for the instruction of young pianists) both contain unusual instructions to the pianist. He even used special notation for certain of them: "hold keys silently" is indicated by square note heads rather than the usual round ones.
Lastly, the "1)" above first chord probably indicates a composer's note somewhere in the score, so that will give you the definitive answer.
answered 52 mins ago
PeterPeter
1,661214
1
Oh, Brilliant! I'd accept this if it were possible! Bravo, Peter!
– user45266
50 mins ago
2
@user45266 Yes, this answer is correct. Just a note, although I see why you describe them as squares, these noteheads are generally referred to as diamonds. The same diamond noteheads are often used for harmonics on string instruments.
– Pat Muchmore
42 mins ago
@PatMuchmore Yes, I've usually heard them referred to as diamonds as well, but both the OP and the Wikipedia article used the term "square." Truly square noteheads (basically like what's shown but rotated 45 degrees) also exist.
– Peter
23 mins ago
add a comment |
I believe the square notes (usually called diamonds) indicate keys that are silently depressed and held down. This technique allows those notes to ring sympathetically when the right hand notes are played. This specific piece is mentioned in this Wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_extended_technique
The relevant passage:
Composers such as Béla Bartók started to look at the piano as a more percussive instrument and explored various techniques to achieve percussive effects. His Bagatelles and Mikrokosmos (the series of works for the instruction of young pianists) both contain unusual instructions to the pianist. He even used special notation for certain of them: "hold keys silently" is indicated by square note heads rather than the usual round ones.
Lastly, the "1)" above first chord probably indicates a composer's note somewhere in the score, so that will give you the definitive answer.
answered 52 mins ago
PeterPeter
1,661214
I believe the square notes (usually called diamonds) indicate keys that are silently depressed and held down. This technique allows those notes to ring sympathetically when the right hand notes are played. This specific piece is mentioned in this Wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano_extended_technique
The relevant passage:
Composers such as Béla Bartók started to look at the piano as a more percussive instrument and explored various techniques to achieve percussive effects. His Bagatelles and Mikrokosmos (the series of works for the instruction of young pianists) both contain unusual instructions to the pianist. He even used special notation for certain of them: "hold keys silently" is indicated by square note heads rather than the usual round ones.
Lastly, the "1)" above first chord probably indicates a composer's note somewhere in the score, so that will give you the definitive answer.
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Oh, Brilliant! I'd accept this if it were possible! Bravo, Peter!
– user45266
50 mins ago
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@user45266 Yes, this answer is correct. Just a note, although I see why you describe them as squares, these noteheads are generally referred to as diamonds. The same diamond noteheads are often used for harmonics on string instruments.
– Pat Muchmore
42 mins ago
@PatMuchmore Yes, I've usually heard them referred to as diamonds as well, but both the OP and the Wikipedia article used the term "square." Truly square noteheads (basically like what's shown but rotated 45 degrees) also exist.
– Peter
23 mins ago
add a comment |
1
Oh, Brilliant! I'd accept this if it were possible! Bravo, Peter!
– user45266
50 mins ago
2
@user45266 Yes, this answer is correct. Just a note, although I see why you describe them as squares, these noteheads are generally referred to as diamonds. The same diamond noteheads are often used for harmonics on string instruments.
– Pat Muchmore
42 mins ago
@PatMuchmore Yes, I've usually heard them referred to as diamonds as well, but both the OP and the Wikipedia article used the term "square." Truly square noteheads (basically like what's shown but rotated 45 degrees) also exist.
– Peter
23 mins ago
1
1
Oh, Brilliant! I'd accept this if it were possible! Bravo, Peter!
– user45266
50 mins ago
Oh, Brilliant! I'd accept this if it were possible! Bravo, Peter!
– user45266
50 mins ago
2
2
@user45266 Yes, this answer is correct. Just a note, although I see why you describe them as squares, these noteheads are generally referred to as diamonds. The same diamond noteheads are often used for harmonics on string instruments.
– Pat Muchmore
42 mins ago
@user45266 Yes, this answer is correct. Just a note, although I see why you describe them as squares, these noteheads are generally referred to as diamonds. The same diamond noteheads are often used for harmonics on string instruments.
– Pat Muchmore
42 mins ago
@PatMuchmore Yes, I've usually heard them referred to as diamonds as well, but both the OP and the Wikipedia article used the term "square." Truly square noteheads (basically like what's shown but rotated 45 degrees) also exist.
– Peter
23 mins ago
@PatMuchmore Yes, I've usually heard them referred to as diamonds as well, but both the OP and the Wikipedia article used the term "square." Truly square noteheads (basically like what's shown but rotated 45 degrees) also exist.
– Peter
23 mins ago
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At least post a pic of the sheet music.
– ggcg
2 hours ago
Sorry, the upload doesn’t function. I’ve tried already 3 times ...
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago
I've removed the meta aspects of your question. You can answer your own question if you know the answer.
– Dom♦
1 hour ago
How do you keep that l.h. chord sounding? Even pedalling it won't last that long. And why is it written with no key sig., when the B chord is a clue?
– Tim
1 hour ago
O.K. your edition is accept, Dom. I will edit the question and poste the source now.
– Albrecht Hügli
1 hour ago