Someone wants me to use my credit card at gas/petrol pump in return for cash
I was at a petrol station in rural New Zealand at the weekend which only accepted payment via the automated card reader on the forecourt. After I had filled up, a young woman approached me and asked if I would use my card to pay for her petrol, and she would pay me back in cash.
While I tried to work out if this was safe, she said it was OK if I didn't want to, and walked away.
Was this an attempted scam, or have I just refused help to someone who needed it?
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I was at a petrol station in rural New Zealand at the weekend which only accepted payment via the automated card reader on the forecourt. After I had filled up, a young woman approached me and asked if I would use my card to pay for her petrol, and she would pay me back in cash.
While I tried to work out if this was safe, she said it was OK if I didn't want to, and walked away.
Was this an attempted scam, or have I just refused help to someone who needed it?
scams
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Probably a scam. If it was a legitimate request, she could have started by showing you a small amount of cash (say, $5), and asking if you could pump $5 worth of gas for her.
– chepner
6 hours ago
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NZ$5 of gas won't get you to the next gas station ... ;)
– Rupert Morrish
6 hours ago
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Doesn't sound like she pushed very hard. I would expect a scammer to be more insistent. More likely someone who just didn't have a bank card.
– Seth R
4 hours ago
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A rural pump station that doesn't accept cash? Seems very unlikely to me, but I've never been to NZ.
– only_pro
4 hours ago
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It's also possible she was trying to avoid having a credit card charge which would reveal that she was at that location.
– mowwwalker
1 hour ago
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I was at a petrol station in rural New Zealand at the weekend which only accepted payment via the automated card reader on the forecourt. After I had filled up, a young woman approached me and asked if I would use my card to pay for her petrol, and she would pay me back in cash.
While I tried to work out if this was safe, she said it was OK if I didn't want to, and walked away.
Was this an attempted scam, or have I just refused help to someone who needed it?
scams
I was at a petrol station in rural New Zealand at the weekend which only accepted payment via the automated card reader on the forecourt. After I had filled up, a young woman approached me and asked if I would use my card to pay for her petrol, and she would pay me back in cash.
While I tried to work out if this was safe, she said it was OK if I didn't want to, and walked away.
Was this an attempted scam, or have I just refused help to someone who needed it?
scams
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Rupert MorrishRupert Morrish
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Probably a scam. If it was a legitimate request, she could have started by showing you a small amount of cash (say, $5), and asking if you could pump $5 worth of gas for her.
– chepner
6 hours ago
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NZ$5 of gas won't get you to the next gas station ... ;)
– Rupert Morrish
6 hours ago
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Doesn't sound like she pushed very hard. I would expect a scammer to be more insistent. More likely someone who just didn't have a bank card.
– Seth R
4 hours ago
3
A rural pump station that doesn't accept cash? Seems very unlikely to me, but I've never been to NZ.
– only_pro
4 hours ago
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It's also possible she was trying to avoid having a credit card charge which would reveal that she was at that location.
– mowwwalker
1 hour ago
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Probably a scam. If it was a legitimate request, she could have started by showing you a small amount of cash (say, $5), and asking if you could pump $5 worth of gas for her.
– chepner
6 hours ago
4
NZ$5 of gas won't get you to the next gas station ... ;)
– Rupert Morrish
6 hours ago
10
Doesn't sound like she pushed very hard. I would expect a scammer to be more insistent. More likely someone who just didn't have a bank card.
– Seth R
4 hours ago
3
A rural pump station that doesn't accept cash? Seems very unlikely to me, but I've never been to NZ.
– only_pro
4 hours ago
2
It's also possible she was trying to avoid having a credit card charge which would reveal that she was at that location.
– mowwwalker
1 hour ago
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Probably a scam. If it was a legitimate request, she could have started by showing you a small amount of cash (say, $5), and asking if you could pump $5 worth of gas for her.
– chepner
6 hours ago
Probably a scam. If it was a legitimate request, she could have started by showing you a small amount of cash (say, $5), and asking if you could pump $5 worth of gas for her.
– chepner
6 hours ago
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NZ$5 of gas won't get you to the next gas station ... ;)
– Rupert Morrish
6 hours ago
NZ$5 of gas won't get you to the next gas station ... ;)
– Rupert Morrish
6 hours ago
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Doesn't sound like she pushed very hard. I would expect a scammer to be more insistent. More likely someone who just didn't have a bank card.
– Seth R
4 hours ago
Doesn't sound like she pushed very hard. I would expect a scammer to be more insistent. More likely someone who just didn't have a bank card.
– Seth R
4 hours ago
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A rural pump station that doesn't accept cash? Seems very unlikely to me, but I've never been to NZ.
– only_pro
4 hours ago
A rural pump station that doesn't accept cash? Seems very unlikely to me, but I've never been to NZ.
– only_pro
4 hours ago
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It's also possible she was trying to avoid having a credit card charge which would reveal that she was at that location.
– mowwwalker
1 hour ago
It's also possible she was trying to avoid having a credit card charge which would reveal that she was at that location.
– mowwwalker
1 hour ago
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Plenty of people don't have credit/debit cards, if they had cash in hand they were probably just one of those people. Cash first, fuel 2nd with you pumping, not much risk to you in that scenario.
Could it have been a ruse to get some free fuel from you or rob you while your guard was down? Sure, but seems less likely.
That could surely be the case, but why would they not simply pay in cash?
– void_ptr
5 hours ago
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@void_ptr OP pointed out it was credit only so cash wasn't an option.
– topshot
5 hours ago
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+1 I was thinking of the robbing angle myself, similar to helping "stranded" motorist.
– topshot
5 hours ago
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@topshot Most gas stations in my area have quite a few security cameras around the pumps, so it feels like a risky place to rob someone, but who knows, people are crazy.
– Hart CO
5 hours ago
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FYI New Zealand has been a leader in electronic transactions since the 90s. We have been using eftpos for 30+ years, so its not unusual. I personally use cash 5-6 times a year at most. You just have to have a bank account to get an eftpos card (which is different to a debit card in that it has no CC-like number) Whether account has funds in it, is another matter completely.
– Criggie
3 hours ago
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In my experience scammers are actually trying to get cash, not goods, so it's possible, but I don't see an obvious play. Some possibilities that come to mind:
- She takes off before giving you the cash
- She gives you counterfeit cash (good enough to fool you but not trained merchants)
- Some sort of short-change sleight-of-hand (I have actually been victim to this)
- She somehow puts more on your card than just gas (not sure how that would work unless you gave her the card)
- She parlays your kindness into another purchase (food, etc.)
If it were me, I probably would have tried to help, being very careful not to fall for one of the above schemes, but I certainly don't blame you for being skeptical.
Laundering money was what first occurred to me. I suspect that says something about me rather than the woman in question.
– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago
True, but that wouldn't really be a "scam" from the OP's point of view. Preventing a paper trail was another I thought of, but again that doesn't harm the OP.
– D Stanley
4 hours ago
3
That would not be money laundering, though. Money laundering is funneling cash from illegal activities through legal channels to hide its origin.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
2
One other risk to be aware of: credit card data skimmers installed on specific card readers at ATMs or gas stations. This is certainly less common than other issues mentioned, but it's something to be aware of in case there's suspicious pushiness about using a specific card reader.
– cr0
3 hours ago
1
@cr0 but I don't see how that's a play for this alleged scammer. If there's a skimmer, the OP is going to be harmed regardless; if not, there's no harm.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
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Some people don't have or carry credit cards, for various reasons... so this could be legit. But there are ways of using this situation to take advantage of someone.
One way it could be a scam is that she does this all day hoping someone hands her their card for her to go swipe at the machine, during which time she can photograph it and use it for online purchases later or sell the card's info.
Another way this could be a scam is if she is trying to use this as a distraction, either to mug you or to pickpocket you, possibly with the help of someone else. (Less likely due to all the security cameras at gas stations, but criminals aren't always the brightest minds).
One way to protect yourself is to take her $20 cash, pre-approve to pump up to $20 on your card, swipe the card yourself and walk away. It's quick and you don't have to stand there and pump it yourself.
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Is it possible to limit the pump to $20 at the start? I thought it pre-approved a high amount on your card so that it wouldn't limit you.
– acestar
2 hours ago
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There's a small chance this was a scam, or a distraction for some third person to come and steal things from your car. Could also have been an attempt to pass counterfeit notes to an unsuspecting person (like a tourist)
But here in NZ we do have a number of automated petrol stations that sell 91, 95, diesel, and perhaps carwashes. They cannot sell LPG without a qualified attendant on site, but they might have vending machines. These are also known as "truck stops"
These automated bowsers have a card reader and will pre-debit up to $150 NZD off your balance before the pump handle is raised. That's how the service station makes sure you have the wherewithall to cover the unknown total cost. If you have a credit card, that pre-charge is simply "unavailable" but you're not paying interest on it.
However if you have a debit card or an eftpos card that "reservation" can cause financial hardship.
If it was me I'd totally make a spot judgement call about the person and decide whether to help or not. If it were a spanky new car and the person had smokes then I might decide no, but a frazzled mum driving a beat-up old 90s car is unlikely to be scamming you out of some dollars. I might even hit the bowser with "dispense $20 worth" on my card rather than "fill" and then just leave without taking cash, because its nice to do something for someone.
Source - I'm a kiwi.
Further info on card charge at robo-stations: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/08/petrol-stations-introduce-new-99-charge-pay-pump/ and https://gull.nz/faq/
Here's where I'll be cynical. Wouldn't a scammer TRY to look like a "frazzled mom" to produce exactly that effect?
– Patrice
2 hours ago
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If she never touches your card it is really just you selling her a gallon of fuel, not that big a deal. If she wants to buy a full tank then check the security features on the currency.
If there is an alternate petrol station nearby suggest they try there for cash transaction or just donate her the fuel to get there if her car is on fumes. I would ask them to pay it forward rather than accept a small amount. If you feel victimised ask to check her fuel gauge first to verify the need.
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The cash could have been counterfeit. It very well could have been a scam.
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Plenty of people don't have credit/debit cards, if they had cash in hand they were probably just one of those people. Cash first, fuel 2nd with you pumping, not much risk to you in that scenario.
Could it have been a ruse to get some free fuel from you or rob you while your guard was down? Sure, but seems less likely.
That could surely be the case, but why would they not simply pay in cash?
– void_ptr
5 hours ago
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@void_ptr OP pointed out it was credit only so cash wasn't an option.
– topshot
5 hours ago
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+1 I was thinking of the robbing angle myself, similar to helping "stranded" motorist.
– topshot
5 hours ago
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@topshot Most gas stations in my area have quite a few security cameras around the pumps, so it feels like a risky place to rob someone, but who knows, people are crazy.
– Hart CO
5 hours ago
1
FYI New Zealand has been a leader in electronic transactions since the 90s. We have been using eftpos for 30+ years, so its not unusual. I personally use cash 5-6 times a year at most. You just have to have a bank account to get an eftpos card (which is different to a debit card in that it has no CC-like number) Whether account has funds in it, is another matter completely.
– Criggie
3 hours ago
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Plenty of people don't have credit/debit cards, if they had cash in hand they were probably just one of those people. Cash first, fuel 2nd with you pumping, not much risk to you in that scenario.
Could it have been a ruse to get some free fuel from you or rob you while your guard was down? Sure, but seems less likely.
That could surely be the case, but why would they not simply pay in cash?
– void_ptr
5 hours ago
10
@void_ptr OP pointed out it was credit only so cash wasn't an option.
– topshot
5 hours ago
1
+1 I was thinking of the robbing angle myself, similar to helping "stranded" motorist.
– topshot
5 hours ago
1
@topshot Most gas stations in my area have quite a few security cameras around the pumps, so it feels like a risky place to rob someone, but who knows, people are crazy.
– Hart CO
5 hours ago
1
FYI New Zealand has been a leader in electronic transactions since the 90s. We have been using eftpos for 30+ years, so its not unusual. I personally use cash 5-6 times a year at most. You just have to have a bank account to get an eftpos card (which is different to a debit card in that it has no CC-like number) Whether account has funds in it, is another matter completely.
– Criggie
3 hours ago
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Plenty of people don't have credit/debit cards, if they had cash in hand they were probably just one of those people. Cash first, fuel 2nd with you pumping, not much risk to you in that scenario.
Could it have been a ruse to get some free fuel from you or rob you while your guard was down? Sure, but seems less likely.
Plenty of people don't have credit/debit cards, if they had cash in hand they were probably just one of those people. Cash first, fuel 2nd with you pumping, not much risk to you in that scenario.
Could it have been a ruse to get some free fuel from you or rob you while your guard was down? Sure, but seems less likely.
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That could surely be the case, but why would they not simply pay in cash?
– void_ptr
5 hours ago
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@void_ptr OP pointed out it was credit only so cash wasn't an option.
– topshot
5 hours ago
1
+1 I was thinking of the robbing angle myself, similar to helping "stranded" motorist.
– topshot
5 hours ago
1
@topshot Most gas stations in my area have quite a few security cameras around the pumps, so it feels like a risky place to rob someone, but who knows, people are crazy.
– Hart CO
5 hours ago
1
FYI New Zealand has been a leader in electronic transactions since the 90s. We have been using eftpos for 30+ years, so its not unusual. I personally use cash 5-6 times a year at most. You just have to have a bank account to get an eftpos card (which is different to a debit card in that it has no CC-like number) Whether account has funds in it, is another matter completely.
– Criggie
3 hours ago
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That could surely be the case, but why would they not simply pay in cash?
– void_ptr
5 hours ago
10
@void_ptr OP pointed out it was credit only so cash wasn't an option.
– topshot
5 hours ago
1
+1 I was thinking of the robbing angle myself, similar to helping "stranded" motorist.
– topshot
5 hours ago
1
@topshot Most gas stations in my area have quite a few security cameras around the pumps, so it feels like a risky place to rob someone, but who knows, people are crazy.
– Hart CO
5 hours ago
1
FYI New Zealand has been a leader in electronic transactions since the 90s. We have been using eftpos for 30+ years, so its not unusual. I personally use cash 5-6 times a year at most. You just have to have a bank account to get an eftpos card (which is different to a debit card in that it has no CC-like number) Whether account has funds in it, is another matter completely.
– Criggie
3 hours ago
That could surely be the case, but why would they not simply pay in cash?
– void_ptr
5 hours ago
That could surely be the case, but why would they not simply pay in cash?
– void_ptr
5 hours ago
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@void_ptr OP pointed out it was credit only so cash wasn't an option.
– topshot
5 hours ago
@void_ptr OP pointed out it was credit only so cash wasn't an option.
– topshot
5 hours ago
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+1 I was thinking of the robbing angle myself, similar to helping "stranded" motorist.
– topshot
5 hours ago
+1 I was thinking of the robbing angle myself, similar to helping "stranded" motorist.
– topshot
5 hours ago
1
1
@topshot Most gas stations in my area have quite a few security cameras around the pumps, so it feels like a risky place to rob someone, but who knows, people are crazy.
– Hart CO
5 hours ago
@topshot Most gas stations in my area have quite a few security cameras around the pumps, so it feels like a risky place to rob someone, but who knows, people are crazy.
– Hart CO
5 hours ago
1
1
FYI New Zealand has been a leader in electronic transactions since the 90s. We have been using eftpos for 30+ years, so its not unusual. I personally use cash 5-6 times a year at most. You just have to have a bank account to get an eftpos card (which is different to a debit card in that it has no CC-like number) Whether account has funds in it, is another matter completely.
– Criggie
3 hours ago
FYI New Zealand has been a leader in electronic transactions since the 90s. We have been using eftpos for 30+ years, so its not unusual. I personally use cash 5-6 times a year at most. You just have to have a bank account to get an eftpos card (which is different to a debit card in that it has no CC-like number) Whether account has funds in it, is another matter completely.
– Criggie
3 hours ago
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In my experience scammers are actually trying to get cash, not goods, so it's possible, but I don't see an obvious play. Some possibilities that come to mind:
- She takes off before giving you the cash
- She gives you counterfeit cash (good enough to fool you but not trained merchants)
- Some sort of short-change sleight-of-hand (I have actually been victim to this)
- She somehow puts more on your card than just gas (not sure how that would work unless you gave her the card)
- She parlays your kindness into another purchase (food, etc.)
If it were me, I probably would have tried to help, being very careful not to fall for one of the above schemes, but I certainly don't blame you for being skeptical.
Laundering money was what first occurred to me. I suspect that says something about me rather than the woman in question.
– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago
True, but that wouldn't really be a "scam" from the OP's point of view. Preventing a paper trail was another I thought of, but again that doesn't harm the OP.
– D Stanley
4 hours ago
3
That would not be money laundering, though. Money laundering is funneling cash from illegal activities through legal channels to hide its origin.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
2
One other risk to be aware of: credit card data skimmers installed on specific card readers at ATMs or gas stations. This is certainly less common than other issues mentioned, but it's something to be aware of in case there's suspicious pushiness about using a specific card reader.
– cr0
3 hours ago
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@cr0 but I don't see how that's a play for this alleged scammer. If there's a skimmer, the OP is going to be harmed regardless; if not, there's no harm.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
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In my experience scammers are actually trying to get cash, not goods, so it's possible, but I don't see an obvious play. Some possibilities that come to mind:
- She takes off before giving you the cash
- She gives you counterfeit cash (good enough to fool you but not trained merchants)
- Some sort of short-change sleight-of-hand (I have actually been victim to this)
- She somehow puts more on your card than just gas (not sure how that would work unless you gave her the card)
- She parlays your kindness into another purchase (food, etc.)
If it were me, I probably would have tried to help, being very careful not to fall for one of the above schemes, but I certainly don't blame you for being skeptical.
Laundering money was what first occurred to me. I suspect that says something about me rather than the woman in question.
– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago
True, but that wouldn't really be a "scam" from the OP's point of view. Preventing a paper trail was another I thought of, but again that doesn't harm the OP.
– D Stanley
4 hours ago
3
That would not be money laundering, though. Money laundering is funneling cash from illegal activities through legal channels to hide its origin.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
2
One other risk to be aware of: credit card data skimmers installed on specific card readers at ATMs or gas stations. This is certainly less common than other issues mentioned, but it's something to be aware of in case there's suspicious pushiness about using a specific card reader.
– cr0
3 hours ago
1
@cr0 but I don't see how that's a play for this alleged scammer. If there's a skimmer, the OP is going to be harmed regardless; if not, there's no harm.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
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In my experience scammers are actually trying to get cash, not goods, so it's possible, but I don't see an obvious play. Some possibilities that come to mind:
- She takes off before giving you the cash
- She gives you counterfeit cash (good enough to fool you but not trained merchants)
- Some sort of short-change sleight-of-hand (I have actually been victim to this)
- She somehow puts more on your card than just gas (not sure how that would work unless you gave her the card)
- She parlays your kindness into another purchase (food, etc.)
If it were me, I probably would have tried to help, being very careful not to fall for one of the above schemes, but I certainly don't blame you for being skeptical.
In my experience scammers are actually trying to get cash, not goods, so it's possible, but I don't see an obvious play. Some possibilities that come to mind:
- She takes off before giving you the cash
- She gives you counterfeit cash (good enough to fool you but not trained merchants)
- Some sort of short-change sleight-of-hand (I have actually been victim to this)
- She somehow puts more on your card than just gas (not sure how that would work unless you gave her the card)
- She parlays your kindness into another purchase (food, etc.)
If it were me, I probably would have tried to help, being very careful not to fall for one of the above schemes, but I certainly don't blame you for being skeptical.
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D StanleyD Stanley
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Laundering money was what first occurred to me. I suspect that says something about me rather than the woman in question.
– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago
True, but that wouldn't really be a "scam" from the OP's point of view. Preventing a paper trail was another I thought of, but again that doesn't harm the OP.
– D Stanley
4 hours ago
3
That would not be money laundering, though. Money laundering is funneling cash from illegal activities through legal channels to hide its origin.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
2
One other risk to be aware of: credit card data skimmers installed on specific card readers at ATMs or gas stations. This is certainly less common than other issues mentioned, but it's something to be aware of in case there's suspicious pushiness about using a specific card reader.
– cr0
3 hours ago
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@cr0 but I don't see how that's a play for this alleged scammer. If there's a skimmer, the OP is going to be harmed regardless; if not, there's no harm.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
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Laundering money was what first occurred to me. I suspect that says something about me rather than the woman in question.
– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago
True, but that wouldn't really be a "scam" from the OP's point of view. Preventing a paper trail was another I thought of, but again that doesn't harm the OP.
– D Stanley
4 hours ago
3
That would not be money laundering, though. Money laundering is funneling cash from illegal activities through legal channels to hide its origin.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
2
One other risk to be aware of: credit card data skimmers installed on specific card readers at ATMs or gas stations. This is certainly less common than other issues mentioned, but it's something to be aware of in case there's suspicious pushiness about using a specific card reader.
– cr0
3 hours ago
1
@cr0 but I don't see how that's a play for this alleged scammer. If there's a skimmer, the OP is going to be harmed regardless; if not, there's no harm.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
Laundering money was what first occurred to me. I suspect that says something about me rather than the woman in question.
– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago
Laundering money was what first occurred to me. I suspect that says something about me rather than the woman in question.
– Andrew Leach
4 hours ago
True, but that wouldn't really be a "scam" from the OP's point of view. Preventing a paper trail was another I thought of, but again that doesn't harm the OP.
– D Stanley
4 hours ago
True, but that wouldn't really be a "scam" from the OP's point of view. Preventing a paper trail was another I thought of, but again that doesn't harm the OP.
– D Stanley
4 hours ago
3
3
That would not be money laundering, though. Money laundering is funneling cash from illegal activities through legal channels to hide its origin.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
That would not be money laundering, though. Money laundering is funneling cash from illegal activities through legal channels to hide its origin.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
2
2
One other risk to be aware of: credit card data skimmers installed on specific card readers at ATMs or gas stations. This is certainly less common than other issues mentioned, but it's something to be aware of in case there's suspicious pushiness about using a specific card reader.
– cr0
3 hours ago
One other risk to be aware of: credit card data skimmers installed on specific card readers at ATMs or gas stations. This is certainly less common than other issues mentioned, but it's something to be aware of in case there's suspicious pushiness about using a specific card reader.
– cr0
3 hours ago
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1
@cr0 but I don't see how that's a play for this alleged scammer. If there's a skimmer, the OP is going to be harmed regardless; if not, there's no harm.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
@cr0 but I don't see how that's a play for this alleged scammer. If there's a skimmer, the OP is going to be harmed regardless; if not, there's no harm.
– D Stanley
3 hours ago
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Some people don't have or carry credit cards, for various reasons... so this could be legit. But there are ways of using this situation to take advantage of someone.
One way it could be a scam is that she does this all day hoping someone hands her their card for her to go swipe at the machine, during which time she can photograph it and use it for online purchases later or sell the card's info.
Another way this could be a scam is if she is trying to use this as a distraction, either to mug you or to pickpocket you, possibly with the help of someone else. (Less likely due to all the security cameras at gas stations, but criminals aren't always the brightest minds).
One way to protect yourself is to take her $20 cash, pre-approve to pump up to $20 on your card, swipe the card yourself and walk away. It's quick and you don't have to stand there and pump it yourself.
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Is it possible to limit the pump to $20 at the start? I thought it pre-approved a high amount on your card so that it wouldn't limit you.
– acestar
2 hours ago
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Some people don't have or carry credit cards, for various reasons... so this could be legit. But there are ways of using this situation to take advantage of someone.
One way it could be a scam is that she does this all day hoping someone hands her their card for her to go swipe at the machine, during which time she can photograph it and use it for online purchases later or sell the card's info.
Another way this could be a scam is if she is trying to use this as a distraction, either to mug you or to pickpocket you, possibly with the help of someone else. (Less likely due to all the security cameras at gas stations, but criminals aren't always the brightest minds).
One way to protect yourself is to take her $20 cash, pre-approve to pump up to $20 on your card, swipe the card yourself and walk away. It's quick and you don't have to stand there and pump it yourself.
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Is it possible to limit the pump to $20 at the start? I thought it pre-approved a high amount on your card so that it wouldn't limit you.
– acestar
2 hours ago
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Some people don't have or carry credit cards, for various reasons... so this could be legit. But there are ways of using this situation to take advantage of someone.
One way it could be a scam is that she does this all day hoping someone hands her their card for her to go swipe at the machine, during which time she can photograph it and use it for online purchases later or sell the card's info.
Another way this could be a scam is if she is trying to use this as a distraction, either to mug you or to pickpocket you, possibly with the help of someone else. (Less likely due to all the security cameras at gas stations, but criminals aren't always the brightest minds).
One way to protect yourself is to take her $20 cash, pre-approve to pump up to $20 on your card, swipe the card yourself and walk away. It's quick and you don't have to stand there and pump it yourself.
Some people don't have or carry credit cards, for various reasons... so this could be legit. But there are ways of using this situation to take advantage of someone.
One way it could be a scam is that she does this all day hoping someone hands her their card for her to go swipe at the machine, during which time she can photograph it and use it for online purchases later or sell the card's info.
Another way this could be a scam is if she is trying to use this as a distraction, either to mug you or to pickpocket you, possibly with the help of someone else. (Less likely due to all the security cameras at gas stations, but criminals aren't always the brightest minds).
One way to protect yourself is to take her $20 cash, pre-approve to pump up to $20 on your card, swipe the card yourself and walk away. It's quick and you don't have to stand there and pump it yourself.
answered 4 hours ago
Alexandre AubreyAlexandre Aubrey
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Is it possible to limit the pump to $20 at the start? I thought it pre-approved a high amount on your card so that it wouldn't limit you.
– acestar
2 hours ago
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Is it possible to limit the pump to $20 at the start? I thought it pre-approved a high amount on your card so that it wouldn't limit you.
– acestar
2 hours ago
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Is it possible to limit the pump to $20 at the start? I thought it pre-approved a high amount on your card so that it wouldn't limit you.
– acestar
2 hours ago
Is it possible to limit the pump to $20 at the start? I thought it pre-approved a high amount on your card so that it wouldn't limit you.
– acestar
2 hours ago
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There's a small chance this was a scam, or a distraction for some third person to come and steal things from your car. Could also have been an attempt to pass counterfeit notes to an unsuspecting person (like a tourist)
But here in NZ we do have a number of automated petrol stations that sell 91, 95, diesel, and perhaps carwashes. They cannot sell LPG without a qualified attendant on site, but they might have vending machines. These are also known as "truck stops"
These automated bowsers have a card reader and will pre-debit up to $150 NZD off your balance before the pump handle is raised. That's how the service station makes sure you have the wherewithall to cover the unknown total cost. If you have a credit card, that pre-charge is simply "unavailable" but you're not paying interest on it.
However if you have a debit card or an eftpos card that "reservation" can cause financial hardship.
If it was me I'd totally make a spot judgement call about the person and decide whether to help or not. If it were a spanky new car and the person had smokes then I might decide no, but a frazzled mum driving a beat-up old 90s car is unlikely to be scamming you out of some dollars. I might even hit the bowser with "dispense $20 worth" on my card rather than "fill" and then just leave without taking cash, because its nice to do something for someone.
Source - I'm a kiwi.
Further info on card charge at robo-stations: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/08/petrol-stations-introduce-new-99-charge-pay-pump/ and https://gull.nz/faq/
Here's where I'll be cynical. Wouldn't a scammer TRY to look like a "frazzled mom" to produce exactly that effect?
– Patrice
2 hours ago
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There's a small chance this was a scam, or a distraction for some third person to come and steal things from your car. Could also have been an attempt to pass counterfeit notes to an unsuspecting person (like a tourist)
But here in NZ we do have a number of automated petrol stations that sell 91, 95, diesel, and perhaps carwashes. They cannot sell LPG without a qualified attendant on site, but they might have vending machines. These are also known as "truck stops"
These automated bowsers have a card reader and will pre-debit up to $150 NZD off your balance before the pump handle is raised. That's how the service station makes sure you have the wherewithall to cover the unknown total cost. If you have a credit card, that pre-charge is simply "unavailable" but you're not paying interest on it.
However if you have a debit card or an eftpos card that "reservation" can cause financial hardship.
If it was me I'd totally make a spot judgement call about the person and decide whether to help or not. If it were a spanky new car and the person had smokes then I might decide no, but a frazzled mum driving a beat-up old 90s car is unlikely to be scamming you out of some dollars. I might even hit the bowser with "dispense $20 worth" on my card rather than "fill" and then just leave without taking cash, because its nice to do something for someone.
Source - I'm a kiwi.
Further info on card charge at robo-stations: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/08/petrol-stations-introduce-new-99-charge-pay-pump/ and https://gull.nz/faq/
Here's where I'll be cynical. Wouldn't a scammer TRY to look like a "frazzled mom" to produce exactly that effect?
– Patrice
2 hours ago
add a comment |
There's a small chance this was a scam, or a distraction for some third person to come and steal things from your car. Could also have been an attempt to pass counterfeit notes to an unsuspecting person (like a tourist)
But here in NZ we do have a number of automated petrol stations that sell 91, 95, diesel, and perhaps carwashes. They cannot sell LPG without a qualified attendant on site, but they might have vending machines. These are also known as "truck stops"
These automated bowsers have a card reader and will pre-debit up to $150 NZD off your balance before the pump handle is raised. That's how the service station makes sure you have the wherewithall to cover the unknown total cost. If you have a credit card, that pre-charge is simply "unavailable" but you're not paying interest on it.
However if you have a debit card or an eftpos card that "reservation" can cause financial hardship.
If it was me I'd totally make a spot judgement call about the person and decide whether to help or not. If it were a spanky new car and the person had smokes then I might decide no, but a frazzled mum driving a beat-up old 90s car is unlikely to be scamming you out of some dollars. I might even hit the bowser with "dispense $20 worth" on my card rather than "fill" and then just leave without taking cash, because its nice to do something for someone.
Source - I'm a kiwi.
Further info on card charge at robo-stations: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/08/petrol-stations-introduce-new-99-charge-pay-pump/ and https://gull.nz/faq/
There's a small chance this was a scam, or a distraction for some third person to come and steal things from your car. Could also have been an attempt to pass counterfeit notes to an unsuspecting person (like a tourist)
But here in NZ we do have a number of automated petrol stations that sell 91, 95, diesel, and perhaps carwashes. They cannot sell LPG without a qualified attendant on site, but they might have vending machines. These are also known as "truck stops"
These automated bowsers have a card reader and will pre-debit up to $150 NZD off your balance before the pump handle is raised. That's how the service station makes sure you have the wherewithall to cover the unknown total cost. If you have a credit card, that pre-charge is simply "unavailable" but you're not paying interest on it.
However if you have a debit card or an eftpos card that "reservation" can cause financial hardship.
If it was me I'd totally make a spot judgement call about the person and decide whether to help or not. If it were a spanky new car and the person had smokes then I might decide no, but a frazzled mum driving a beat-up old 90s car is unlikely to be scamming you out of some dollars. I might even hit the bowser with "dispense $20 worth" on my card rather than "fill" and then just leave without taking cash, because its nice to do something for someone.
Source - I'm a kiwi.
Further info on card charge at robo-stations: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/08/petrol-stations-introduce-new-99-charge-pay-pump/ and https://gull.nz/faq/
answered 3 hours ago
CriggieCriggie
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Here's where I'll be cynical. Wouldn't a scammer TRY to look like a "frazzled mom" to produce exactly that effect?
– Patrice
2 hours ago
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Here's where I'll be cynical. Wouldn't a scammer TRY to look like a "frazzled mom" to produce exactly that effect?
– Patrice
2 hours ago
Here's where I'll be cynical. Wouldn't a scammer TRY to look like a "frazzled mom" to produce exactly that effect?
– Patrice
2 hours ago
Here's where I'll be cynical. Wouldn't a scammer TRY to look like a "frazzled mom" to produce exactly that effect?
– Patrice
2 hours ago
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If she never touches your card it is really just you selling her a gallon of fuel, not that big a deal. If she wants to buy a full tank then check the security features on the currency.
If there is an alternate petrol station nearby suggest they try there for cash transaction or just donate her the fuel to get there if her car is on fumes. I would ask them to pay it forward rather than accept a small amount. If you feel victimised ask to check her fuel gauge first to verify the need.
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If she never touches your card it is really just you selling her a gallon of fuel, not that big a deal. If she wants to buy a full tank then check the security features on the currency.
If there is an alternate petrol station nearby suggest they try there for cash transaction or just donate her the fuel to get there if her car is on fumes. I would ask them to pay it forward rather than accept a small amount. If you feel victimised ask to check her fuel gauge first to verify the need.
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If she never touches your card it is really just you selling her a gallon of fuel, not that big a deal. If she wants to buy a full tank then check the security features on the currency.
If there is an alternate petrol station nearby suggest they try there for cash transaction or just donate her the fuel to get there if her car is on fumes. I would ask them to pay it forward rather than accept a small amount. If you feel victimised ask to check her fuel gauge first to verify the need.
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If she never touches your card it is really just you selling her a gallon of fuel, not that big a deal. If she wants to buy a full tank then check the security features on the currency.
If there is an alternate petrol station nearby suggest they try there for cash transaction or just donate her the fuel to get there if her car is on fumes. I would ask them to pay it forward rather than accept a small amount. If you feel victimised ask to check her fuel gauge first to verify the need.
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The cash could have been counterfeit. It very well could have been a scam.
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The cash could have been counterfeit. It very well could have been a scam.
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The cash could have been counterfeit. It very well could have been a scam.
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The cash could have been counterfeit. It very well could have been a scam.
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Probably a scam. If it was a legitimate request, she could have started by showing you a small amount of cash (say, $5), and asking if you could pump $5 worth of gas for her.
– chepner
6 hours ago
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NZ$5 of gas won't get you to the next gas station ... ;)
– Rupert Morrish
6 hours ago
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Doesn't sound like she pushed very hard. I would expect a scammer to be more insistent. More likely someone who just didn't have a bank card.
– Seth R
4 hours ago
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A rural pump station that doesn't accept cash? Seems very unlikely to me, but I've never been to NZ.
– only_pro
4 hours ago
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It's also possible she was trying to avoid having a credit card charge which would reveal that she was at that location.
– mowwwalker
1 hour ago