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I'm writing a story about the aftermath and consequences of a runic magic system being mysteriously introduced to the human race by an unknown entity. Every week a new rune is given to everyone on Earth over the age of 13, and everyone can keep any six of their choosing before having to give one up to make room for the next week's rune. Each rune represents a supernatural power the bearer is capable of using.
Initially society manages to adapt and cope with this radical change in the status quo, but by the end of year one, various factors, both from the rune system and from malicious third parties, combine to cause total societal collapse, resulting in a very long period of time where civilization is struggling to re-assert itself, and the superpowered survivors of the initial collapse and dieoff fight to survive in the ruins of the modern world.
This brings results in a certain issue I need to address. You see, during that first year when things seem like they're going to be okay, several one-week-only runes grant humanity the opportunity to take part in transhumanism. Occasionally a new fantasy race is introduced to the world, and everyone on earth will be given a totally genetically randomized body as a member of that fantasy race that they can switch between freely for that first week, and keep forever (in exchange for giving up their old body permanently) if they so choose by staying in that body when the rune disappears.
One of these races is a fairy-like creature called a lightwing. They're one foot tall, can fly, and while they're significantly weaker and more fragile than humans, it's not nearly to the degree that their size would suggest. You see, I want lightwings to be strong and tough enough that while they are weaker and more fragile than humans, their strengths and weaknesses with the other races balance out, and a fight between a lightwing and a human of equal skill and equipment would be a fair fight.
But here's the issue I'm having: If an individual lightwing is a match for any other creature, then when the apocalypse hits and resources become scarce, the fact that lightwings are tiny (and thus require way less food, water and space to survive) would give them an insane advantage over the other survivors during the initial decades after society collapses. People would be fighting over scarce resources that would go a lot further for lightwings than for anyone else. I can't see any reason why they wouldn't utterly dominate the post-apocalyptic environment.
The supplies that would keep a small band of five human survivors alive would be enough to feed a veritable swarm of lightwings that those five survivors couldn't possibly hope to compete against. And then when people start re-establishing communities and growing crops, the lightwing population would explode (relatively speaking) from the small minority they were before the apocalypse to much larger populations than any post-apocalyptic human community would be able to feed. When it reached the point of open warfare between these communities, the lightwings communities would rip the competition to shreds through sheer force of numbers.
Now, I obviously don't want this, but I still don't want to make individual lightwings inferior to individual humans to balance out their superior numbers, because that would somewhat dehumanize them and make them way less interesting as individual characters, especially since I want the story to revolve around smaller groups rather than large-scale warfare, at least at first. My initial planned solution to this was to make lightwings require just as much food as any other humanoid despite their tiny size, but the problem with this is that the concept of a tiny humanoid consuming, digesting, and excreting several times its own body weight in food per day sounds like it's going to need some very careful magical handwaving to not seem utterly bizarre (and gross). I'm prepared to try and handle that if I have to, but it occurred to me that I might not have to. There might be some other option I have to make the lightwing "zerg rush" strategy less viable.
What else, besides not having enough supplies to feed them, would keep my small fairy creatures from assembling in larger numbers than humans with the same resources and attacking in swarms?
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I'm writing a story about the aftermath and consequences of a runic magic system being mysteriously introduced to the human race by an unknown entity. Every week a new rune is given to everyone on Earth over the age of 13, and everyone can keep any six of their choosing before having to give one up to make room for the next week's rune. Each rune represents a supernatural power the bearer is capable of using.
Initially society manages to adapt and cope with this radical change in the status quo, but by the end of year one, various factors, both from the rune system and from malicious third parties, combine to cause total societal collapse, resulting in a very long period of time where civilization is struggling to re-assert itself, and the superpowered survivors of the initial collapse and dieoff fight to survive in the ruins of the modern world.
This brings results in a certain issue I need to address. You see, during that first year when things seem like they're going to be okay, several one-week-only runes grant humanity the opportunity to take part in transhumanism. Occasionally a new fantasy race is introduced to the world, and everyone on earth will be given a totally genetically randomized body as a member of that fantasy race that they can switch between freely for that first week, and keep forever (in exchange for giving up their old body permanently) if they so choose by staying in that body when the rune disappears.
One of these races is a fairy-like creature called a lightwing. They're one foot tall, can fly, and while they're significantly weaker and more fragile than humans, it's not nearly to the degree that their size would suggest. You see, I want lightwings to be strong and tough enough that while they are weaker and more fragile than humans, their strengths and weaknesses with the other races balance out, and a fight between a lightwing and a human of equal skill and equipment would be a fair fight.
But here's the issue I'm having: If an individual lightwing is a match for any other creature, then when the apocalypse hits and resources become scarce, the fact that lightwings are tiny (and thus require way less food, water and space to survive) would give them an insane advantage over the other survivors during the initial decades after society collapses. People would be fighting over scarce resources that would go a lot further for lightwings than for anyone else. I can't see any reason why they wouldn't utterly dominate the post-apocalyptic environment.
The supplies that would keep a small band of five human survivors alive would be enough to feed a veritable swarm of lightwings that those five survivors couldn't possibly hope to compete against. And then when people start re-establishing communities and growing crops, the lightwing population would explode (relatively speaking) from the small minority they were before the apocalypse to much larger populations than any post-apocalyptic human community would be able to feed. When it reached the point of open warfare between these communities, the lightwings communities would rip the competition to shreds through sheer force of numbers.
Now, I obviously don't want this, but I still don't want to make individual lightwings inferior to individual humans to balance out their superior numbers, because that would somewhat dehumanize them and make them way less interesting as individual characters, especially since I want the story to revolve around smaller groups rather than large-scale warfare, at least at first. My initial planned solution to this was to make lightwings require just as much food as any other humanoid despite their tiny size, but the problem with this is that the concept of a tiny humanoid consuming, digesting, and excreting several times its own body weight in food per day sounds like it's going to need some very careful magical handwaving to not seem utterly bizarre (and gross). I'm prepared to try and handle that if I have to, but it occurred to me that I might not have to. There might be some other option I have to make the lightwing "zerg rush" strategy less viable.
What else, besides not having enough supplies to feed them, would keep my small fairy creatures from assembling in larger numbers than humans with the same resources and attacking in swarms?
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I'm writing a story about the aftermath and consequences of a runic magic system being mysteriously introduced to the human race by an unknown entity. Every week a new rune is given to everyone on Earth over the age of 13, and everyone can keep any six of their choosing before having to give one up to make room for the next week's rune. Each rune represents a supernatural power the bearer is capable of using.
Initially society manages to adapt and cope with this radical change in the status quo, but by the end of year one, various factors, both from the rune system and from malicious third parties, combine to cause total societal collapse, resulting in a very long period of time where civilization is struggling to re-assert itself, and the superpowered survivors of the initial collapse and dieoff fight to survive in the ruins of the modern world.
This brings results in a certain issue I need to address. You see, during that first year when things seem like they're going to be okay, several one-week-only runes grant humanity the opportunity to take part in transhumanism. Occasionally a new fantasy race is introduced to the world, and everyone on earth will be given a totally genetically randomized body as a member of that fantasy race that they can switch between freely for that first week, and keep forever (in exchange for giving up their old body permanently) if they so choose by staying in that body when the rune disappears.
One of these races is a fairy-like creature called a lightwing. They're one foot tall, can fly, and while they're significantly weaker and more fragile than humans, it's not nearly to the degree that their size would suggest. You see, I want lightwings to be strong and tough enough that while they are weaker and more fragile than humans, their strengths and weaknesses with the other races balance out, and a fight between a lightwing and a human of equal skill and equipment would be a fair fight.
But here's the issue I'm having: If an individual lightwing is a match for any other creature, then when the apocalypse hits and resources become scarce, the fact that lightwings are tiny (and thus require way less food, water and space to survive) would give them an insane advantage over the other survivors during the initial decades after society collapses. People would be fighting over scarce resources that would go a lot further for lightwings than for anyone else. I can't see any reason why they wouldn't utterly dominate the post-apocalyptic environment.
The supplies that would keep a small band of five human survivors alive would be enough to feed a veritable swarm of lightwings that those five survivors couldn't possibly hope to compete against. And then when people start re-establishing communities and growing crops, the lightwing population would explode (relatively speaking) from the small minority they were before the apocalypse to much larger populations than any post-apocalyptic human community would be able to feed. When it reached the point of open warfare between these communities, the lightwings communities would rip the competition to shreds through sheer force of numbers.
Now, I obviously don't want this, but I still don't want to make individual lightwings inferior to individual humans to balance out their superior numbers, because that would somewhat dehumanize them and make them way less interesting as individual characters, especially since I want the story to revolve around smaller groups rather than large-scale warfare, at least at first. My initial planned solution to this was to make lightwings require just as much food as any other humanoid despite their tiny size, but the problem with this is that the concept of a tiny humanoid consuming, digesting, and excreting several times its own body weight in food per day sounds like it's going to need some very careful magical handwaving to not seem utterly bizarre (and gross). I'm prepared to try and handle that if I have to, but it occurred to me that I might not have to. There might be some other option I have to make the lightwing "zerg rush" strategy less viable.
What else, besides not having enough supplies to feed them, would keep my small fairy creatures from assembling in larger numbers than humans with the same resources and attacking in swarms?
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I'm writing a story about the aftermath and consequences of a runic magic system being mysteriously introduced to the human race by an unknown entity. Every week a new rune is given to everyone on Earth over the age of 13, and everyone can keep any six of their choosing before having to give one up to make room for the next week's rune. Each rune represents a supernatural power the bearer is capable of using.
Initially society manages to adapt and cope with this radical change in the status quo, but by the end of year one, various factors, both from the rune system and from malicious third parties, combine to cause total societal collapse, resulting in a very long period of time where civilization is struggling to re-assert itself, and the superpowered survivors of the initial collapse and dieoff fight to survive in the ruins of the modern world.
This brings results in a certain issue I need to address. You see, during that first year when things seem like they're going to be okay, several one-week-only runes grant humanity the opportunity to take part in transhumanism. Occasionally a new fantasy race is introduced to the world, and everyone on earth will be given a totally genetically randomized body as a member of that fantasy race that they can switch between freely for that first week, and keep forever (in exchange for giving up their old body permanently) if they so choose by staying in that body when the rune disappears.
One of these races is a fairy-like creature called a lightwing. They're one foot tall, can fly, and while they're significantly weaker and more fragile than humans, it's not nearly to the degree that their size would suggest. You see, I want lightwings to be strong and tough enough that while they are weaker and more fragile than humans, their strengths and weaknesses with the other races balance out, and a fight between a lightwing and a human of equal skill and equipment would be a fair fight.
But here's the issue I'm having: If an individual lightwing is a match for any other creature, then when the apocalypse hits and resources become scarce, the fact that lightwings are tiny (and thus require way less food, water and space to survive) would give them an insane advantage over the other survivors during the initial decades after society collapses. People would be fighting over scarce resources that would go a lot further for lightwings than for anyone else. I can't see any reason why they wouldn't utterly dominate the post-apocalyptic environment.
The supplies that would keep a small band of five human survivors alive would be enough to feed a veritable swarm of lightwings that those five survivors couldn't possibly hope to compete against. And then when people start re-establishing communities and growing crops, the lightwing population would explode (relatively speaking) from the small minority they were before the apocalypse to much larger populations than any post-apocalyptic human community would be able to feed. When it reached the point of open warfare between these communities, the lightwings communities would rip the competition to shreds through sheer force of numbers.
Now, I obviously don't want this, but I still don't want to make individual lightwings inferior to individual humans to balance out their superior numbers, because that would somewhat dehumanize them and make them way less interesting as individual characters, especially since I want the story to revolve around smaller groups rather than large-scale warfare, at least at first. My initial planned solution to this was to make lightwings require just as much food as any other humanoid despite their tiny size, but the problem with this is that the concept of a tiny humanoid consuming, digesting, and excreting several times its own body weight in food per day sounds like it's going to need some very careful magical handwaving to not seem utterly bizarre (and gross). I'm prepared to try and handle that if I have to, but it occurred to me that I might not have to. There might be some other option I have to make the lightwing "zerg rush" strategy less viable.
What else, besides not having enough supplies to feed them, would keep my small fairy creatures from assembling in larger numbers than humans with the same resources and attacking in swarms?
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Flying creatures have a much higher metabolism for their size, especially non-gliding kinds like fairies. If you assume they have a metabolism similar to a hummingbird, then a 10 pound fairy will need just as much food as a full grown man; so, scarcity would be just as meaningful if not more so to them because not only do they need just as much food, but they will need to stop to eat more often because of their smaller stomachs and lesser body fat.
[edit] Aside from this fact, (since you asked for an answer that does not involve eating a lot for their size), what constitutes as a fair fight may be relative. Their speed and agility may give them the opportunity to out maneuver a giant warhammer for a quick slash to the neck, but their advantages may have well-known counters such as using nets, flails, water hoses, specialized armor, or other weapons & techniques that make it an uneven fight.
Basically, other races can adapt their methods to kill lightwings much more easily than the inverse; so, while they may do well in the opening days of a conflict, an enemy that is prepared to fight them will typically win, even if outnumbered.
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They reproduce like cicadas.
Some small creatures take their time about reproducing. Some cicadas take 17 years to reach sexual maturity. That's more time than larger creatures such as dogs and cats.
Your fairies may reach sexual maturity only after they are 40 or 50 years old.
And then, like cicadas and so many other insects, they mate, lay eggs and die, all within just a few days.
That would make the loss of fairy life more dangerous to them as a species than the loss of a human life is to us. They will want to play cool with other races.
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Transhumanism runes are no longer available.
If you and your family were hungry, and had the opportunity to change yourself such that you all would not be so hungry, probably you would do it. You are right that after the Fall lots of people would want to be Lightwings. But after the Fall (or at some point before) the Transhuman runes are no longer available. The Lightwings that already exist will not increase in number - there is no way to do it. Except possibly by breeding...
2. Lightwings have no inherent affiliation with other Lightwings.
If I am Latvian in the US, and somehow Latvians have a survival edge after the Fall, I will find other Latvians. For one, I go to church with a bunch of them. I have been to their houses. For two they speak and read Latvian. I can put up signs. Also there is a restaurant we all used to go to and so I would recognize them if I saw them. They think like me, we have a shared background, we can talk and we get along. We can definitely team up.
Your Lightwings are raised human. Their families are human and their background is their human background. The only thing I as a Lightwing have in common with other Lightwings is that at the time Lightwing bodies were on offer, I thought they looked cool and I thought I would try it out. I chose Lightwings because I have always been hot for Tinkerbell but maybe it turns out that a vast majority of people who chose to be Lightwings chose that because they were old and aching and very heavy and were tired of it. These old folks qua Lightwings like to complain and argue, and voice their suspicions about what kind of people the other Lightwings were before they were Lightwings. They are not much for the teaming up.
My buddies, on the other hand, are a bunch of other things besides Lightwings. In once sense that is a shame because there is no Tinkerbell equivalent, but otherwise it works well. It is easier hanging with them because they are not fussy old jerks and actually our strengths complement each other.
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I loled at the part about Tinkerbell. And to clarify, yes, I was talking about them eventually reproducing since their societies would have much larger "carrying capacities" than human societies.
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#2 would be a very meaningful limiter in the first few years, but if you think about it, eventually you're going to want to find yourself a Tinkerbell and settle down so you can have little tinker-babies. By the 2nd or 3rd generation, family tribalism will become more important than pre-transformation acquaintances.
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Because lightwings are solitary creatures. To the point of being unable to exist with other lightwings unless it's mating season.
They explode.
You move one lightwing to another one and closer they get they start to magically vibrate and when they touch they resonate with each other channelling their inner magic on the same oscilloscopy level of recipient and it make them explode.
Also ancient curse. Modern curse. that one rune that make them die. and that spell that make more than three lightwings on square meter turn into hotdogs.
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you don't need ot have them explode they could just be less social than humans, humans greatest strength is that we are VERY social, human communities of the high dozens to low hundreds are pretty normal. If fairies are rarely found in anything large than the immediate family that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
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This would definitely do it without the exploding bit. Just make them unsociable to the point of organising at a band level maximum (50 lightwings or so), with groups trending towards a dozen.
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Maybe loose the explosion, but absolutely must keep the hot dog part. I would read that book.
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You say they require less resources because they are tiny yet still are equal in a fight with a human. But why wouldnt you just say "they might be tiny but still use similar amount of food and water as humans"? Give them an ability for eating a lot in a short amount of time to shut people up about "tiny mouths=needs to eat most of the day" and you are done.
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They eat things that humans do not, and that is as scarce as human food. You could make them reliant on some shared resource but have others be completely separate if you want to give them a reason to fight (they both drink water, but eat totally incompatible foods, for example).
This doesn't solve the living space issues - lightwings could fit in smaller spaces, but fighting over their scarce food means they isolate themselves into smaller groups. They may also need some special environment to be comfortable and happy. Humans like to be out of the weather and somewhere around 70 degrees. Maybe lightwings need very high humidity, or they can't handle extreme temperatures. Those examples might limit their range too much for your story, but some other acceptable requirement could limit their ability to congregate in large numbers but still allow them to live in various locations/environments.
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If your fairies retain their intelligence then there aren't many options actually
Arrogance
Simple enough. Because of how easy it is for them to survive and flourish(as compared to non-fairies), they begin to believe the world belongs to them, all the more so when you consider their numbers. In other words, they develop a sense of manifest destiny. They don't go around in large swarms mainly because they see no need/can't be bothered to organize themselves sufficiently. Hostile encounters between fairies and non-fairies tend to be in small groups or even one on one because of a twisted sense of honour, which is probably just a veneer for sadism.
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They're fascinated by bright lights, hence the name.
If your humans can survive the night, they'll find the entire Lightwing army staring stupidly at the sun, which is when most predators hunt for them.
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They are way less social than humans, large lightwing villages have around 20-30 individuals, whereas the smallest human communities typically, bands, range from 20-50 individuals. The typical human community in your setting are tribes with ~150 individuals.
An individual human and an individual lightwing are evenly matched, but a human community and a lightwing community are not, in most cases lightwings are at serious disadvantage.
This is not hard to achieve, if lightwings are less trusting, and only tend to congregate as immediate family they can't form the large groups humans can.
Alternatively if you still want to be somewhat social, their magic start to interfere with each other. If you get to many living to close their magic stops working, or at least becomes more and more unpredictable and problematic. So a lightwing family may be fine IN a large human community, but a large community of lightwings turns into a huge fight, or more likely it is so disruptive they immediately split into smaller communities.
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Having just watched the scene in The Matrix, where Agent Smith describes how humanity is the only 'mammal' seemingly incapable of establishing an equilibrium with its surroundings, the only answer so far is that, that is just not their way. Otherwise this answer will quickly dissolve into reasons against the statement that humans have not established an equilibrium (oh, no... we're running out of oil. Again).
On the face of it your question seems story based, but it's actually one of logistics; as all good questions are. Native Americans had respect for their land, because they had respect for the generations that would come after them. It's simple sound logic. But what compels a culture to comply is a question for the ages ... or a damn history book.
You should watch Wizards
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The issue with a cultural explanation is that it’ll be a long time before lightwings even have their own culture. As I said, the first generation is made up of ex-human transhumans, so they were raised in whatever human culture they were born into.
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@JasonClyde - Get back to me after you've watched Wizards. The Old Ways are bad. We don't do that anymore.
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The easiest way is to limit their diet. Maybe they can only eat fruit (which goes bad rapidly and is more scarce in winter), or any one particular type of food. Maybe they can only eat raw meat, for instance, forcing them to hunt and making food storage essentially useless (but making a large sized rat a veritable feast). Even with lower-than-a-hummingbird metabolisms, restricted food sources could make being one less attractive.
Or you could limit them other ways. Such as, they don't eat at all but subsist off dew and sunlight (legends of fairies have suggested they once did). If that's the case then periods of dryness or dark could be very weakening to them. That would be a major factor in choosing to stay a lightwing, especially with only 7 days to become used to it. If night times forced a person to seek cover and hide because the longer the night went on the weaker they'd get, well, a lot of people wouldn't be happy with that sort of trade-off, no matter what power they had by day.
To someone used to always being strong, suddenly feeling great weakness would be a disorienting and frightening feeling, especially especially for someone who's sole focus is survival. Seven days isn't really enough time to get used to or adapt to such a thing either, so quite a number of people might Nope right out of their trial period and never look back.
Another limiting factor could be language--maybe lightwings speak only their own language and must relearn the dominant language, and even then may never speak it very well. This would mean families and friends may not be able to speak to one another, and that could be heavy factor in deciding.
Also, never underestimate "peer pressure." Choosing a form also means choosing other things. If a husband wants to be a lightwing but the wife wants to be an elf, they have a decision to make--separate as a couple or choose another form (unless they don't like sex). Or say the couple is fine with it but their child is stubbornly set on being an orc--how does a lightwing raise an orc? Or if all a child's friends are orcs, will they want to remain a lightwing? In this form they may rule at hide and seek, but they'll certainly never be part of a baseball game. Those sorts of peer group and familial pressures may drive a lot of people from the choice.
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Flying creatures have a much higher metabolism for their size, especially non-gliding kinds like fairies. If you assume they have a metabolism similar to a hummingbird, then a 10 pound fairy will need just as much food as a full grown man; so, scarcity would be just as meaningful if not more so to them because not only do they need just as much food, but they will need to stop to eat more often because of their smaller stomachs and lesser body fat.
[edit] Aside from this fact, (since you asked for an answer that does not involve eating a lot for their size), what constitutes as a fair fight may be relative. Their speed and agility may give them the opportunity to out maneuver a giant warhammer for a quick slash to the neck, but their advantages may have well-known counters such as using nets, flails, water hoses, specialized armor, or other weapons & techniques that make it an uneven fight.
Basically, other races can adapt their methods to kill lightwings much more easily than the inverse; so, while they may do well in the opening days of a conflict, an enemy that is prepared to fight them will typically win, even if outnumbered.
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Flying creatures have a much higher metabolism for their size, especially non-gliding kinds like fairies. If you assume they have a metabolism similar to a hummingbird, then a 10 pound fairy will need just as much food as a full grown man; so, scarcity would be just as meaningful if not more so to them because not only do they need just as much food, but they will need to stop to eat more often because of their smaller stomachs and lesser body fat.
[edit] Aside from this fact, (since you asked for an answer that does not involve eating a lot for their size), what constitutes as a fair fight may be relative. Their speed and agility may give them the opportunity to out maneuver a giant warhammer for a quick slash to the neck, but their advantages may have well-known counters such as using nets, flails, water hoses, specialized armor, or other weapons & techniques that make it an uneven fight.
Basically, other races can adapt their methods to kill lightwings much more easily than the inverse; so, while they may do well in the opening days of a conflict, an enemy that is prepared to fight them will typically win, even if outnumbered.
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Flying creatures have a much higher metabolism for their size, especially non-gliding kinds like fairies. If you assume they have a metabolism similar to a hummingbird, then a 10 pound fairy will need just as much food as a full grown man; so, scarcity would be just as meaningful if not more so to them because not only do they need just as much food, but they will need to stop to eat more often because of their smaller stomachs and lesser body fat.
[edit] Aside from this fact, (since you asked for an answer that does not involve eating a lot for their size), what constitutes as a fair fight may be relative. Their speed and agility may give them the opportunity to out maneuver a giant warhammer for a quick slash to the neck, but their advantages may have well-known counters such as using nets, flails, water hoses, specialized armor, or other weapons & techniques that make it an uneven fight.
Basically, other races can adapt their methods to kill lightwings much more easily than the inverse; so, while they may do well in the opening days of a conflict, an enemy that is prepared to fight them will typically win, even if outnumbered.
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Flying creatures have a much higher metabolism for their size, especially non-gliding kinds like fairies. If you assume they have a metabolism similar to a hummingbird, then a 10 pound fairy will need just as much food as a full grown man; so, scarcity would be just as meaningful if not more so to them because not only do they need just as much food, but they will need to stop to eat more often because of their smaller stomachs and lesser body fat.
[edit] Aside from this fact, (since you asked for an answer that does not involve eating a lot for their size), what constitutes as a fair fight may be relative. Their speed and agility may give them the opportunity to out maneuver a giant warhammer for a quick slash to the neck, but their advantages may have well-known counters such as using nets, flails, water hoses, specialized armor, or other weapons & techniques that make it an uneven fight.
Basically, other races can adapt their methods to kill lightwings much more easily than the inverse; so, while they may do well in the opening days of a conflict, an enemy that is prepared to fight them will typically win, even if outnumbered.
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They reproduce like cicadas.
Some small creatures take their time about reproducing. Some cicadas take 17 years to reach sexual maturity. That's more time than larger creatures such as dogs and cats.
Your fairies may reach sexual maturity only after they are 40 or 50 years old.
And then, like cicadas and so many other insects, they mate, lay eggs and die, all within just a few days.
That would make the loss of fairy life more dangerous to them as a species than the loss of a human life is to us. They will want to play cool with other races.
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They reproduce like cicadas.
Some small creatures take their time about reproducing. Some cicadas take 17 years to reach sexual maturity. That's more time than larger creatures such as dogs and cats.
Your fairies may reach sexual maturity only after they are 40 or 50 years old.
And then, like cicadas and so many other insects, they mate, lay eggs and die, all within just a few days.
That would make the loss of fairy life more dangerous to them as a species than the loss of a human life is to us. They will want to play cool with other races.
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They reproduce like cicadas.
Some small creatures take their time about reproducing. Some cicadas take 17 years to reach sexual maturity. That's more time than larger creatures such as dogs and cats.
Your fairies may reach sexual maturity only after they are 40 or 50 years old.
And then, like cicadas and so many other insects, they mate, lay eggs and die, all within just a few days.
That would make the loss of fairy life more dangerous to them as a species than the loss of a human life is to us. They will want to play cool with other races.
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They reproduce like cicadas.
Some small creatures take their time about reproducing. Some cicadas take 17 years to reach sexual maturity. That's more time than larger creatures such as dogs and cats.
Your fairies may reach sexual maturity only after they are 40 or 50 years old.
And then, like cicadas and so many other insects, they mate, lay eggs and die, all within just a few days.
That would make the loss of fairy life more dangerous to them as a species than the loss of a human life is to us. They will want to play cool with other races.
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Transhumanism runes are no longer available.
If you and your family were hungry, and had the opportunity to change yourself such that you all would not be so hungry, probably you would do it. You are right that after the Fall lots of people would want to be Lightwings. But after the Fall (or at some point before) the Transhuman runes are no longer available. The Lightwings that already exist will not increase in number - there is no way to do it. Except possibly by breeding...
2. Lightwings have no inherent affiliation with other Lightwings.
If I am Latvian in the US, and somehow Latvians have a survival edge after the Fall, I will find other Latvians. For one, I go to church with a bunch of them. I have been to their houses. For two they speak and read Latvian. I can put up signs. Also there is a restaurant we all used to go to and so I would recognize them if I saw them. They think like me, we have a shared background, we can talk and we get along. We can definitely team up.
Your Lightwings are raised human. Their families are human and their background is their human background. The only thing I as a Lightwing have in common with other Lightwings is that at the time Lightwing bodies were on offer, I thought they looked cool and I thought I would try it out. I chose Lightwings because I have always been hot for Tinkerbell but maybe it turns out that a vast majority of people who chose to be Lightwings chose that because they were old and aching and very heavy and were tired of it. These old folks qua Lightwings like to complain and argue, and voice their suspicions about what kind of people the other Lightwings were before they were Lightwings. They are not much for the teaming up.
My buddies, on the other hand, are a bunch of other things besides Lightwings. In once sense that is a shame because there is no Tinkerbell equivalent, but otherwise it works well. It is easier hanging with them because they are not fussy old jerks and actually our strengths complement each other.
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I loled at the part about Tinkerbell. And to clarify, yes, I was talking about them eventually reproducing since their societies would have much larger "carrying capacities" than human societies.
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#2 would be a very meaningful limiter in the first few years, but if you think about it, eventually you're going to want to find yourself a Tinkerbell and settle down so you can have little tinker-babies. By the 2nd or 3rd generation, family tribalism will become more important than pre-transformation acquaintances.
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– Nosajimiki
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Transhumanism runes are no longer available.
If you and your family were hungry, and had the opportunity to change yourself such that you all would not be so hungry, probably you would do it. You are right that after the Fall lots of people would want to be Lightwings. But after the Fall (or at some point before) the Transhuman runes are no longer available. The Lightwings that already exist will not increase in number - there is no way to do it. Except possibly by breeding...
2. Lightwings have no inherent affiliation with other Lightwings.
If I am Latvian in the US, and somehow Latvians have a survival edge after the Fall, I will find other Latvians. For one, I go to church with a bunch of them. I have been to their houses. For two they speak and read Latvian. I can put up signs. Also there is a restaurant we all used to go to and so I would recognize them if I saw them. They think like me, we have a shared background, we can talk and we get along. We can definitely team up.
Your Lightwings are raised human. Their families are human and their background is their human background. The only thing I as a Lightwing have in common with other Lightwings is that at the time Lightwing bodies were on offer, I thought they looked cool and I thought I would try it out. I chose Lightwings because I have always been hot for Tinkerbell but maybe it turns out that a vast majority of people who chose to be Lightwings chose that because they were old and aching and very heavy and were tired of it. These old folks qua Lightwings like to complain and argue, and voice their suspicions about what kind of people the other Lightwings were before they were Lightwings. They are not much for the teaming up.
My buddies, on the other hand, are a bunch of other things besides Lightwings. In once sense that is a shame because there is no Tinkerbell equivalent, but otherwise it works well. It is easier hanging with them because they are not fussy old jerks and actually our strengths complement each other.
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I loled at the part about Tinkerbell. And to clarify, yes, I was talking about them eventually reproducing since their societies would have much larger "carrying capacities" than human societies.
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– Jason Clyde
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#2 would be a very meaningful limiter in the first few years, but if you think about it, eventually you're going to want to find yourself a Tinkerbell and settle down so you can have little tinker-babies. By the 2nd or 3rd generation, family tribalism will become more important than pre-transformation acquaintances.
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– Nosajimiki
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Transhumanism runes are no longer available.
If you and your family were hungry, and had the opportunity to change yourself such that you all would not be so hungry, probably you would do it. You are right that after the Fall lots of people would want to be Lightwings. But after the Fall (or at some point before) the Transhuman runes are no longer available. The Lightwings that already exist will not increase in number - there is no way to do it. Except possibly by breeding...
2. Lightwings have no inherent affiliation with other Lightwings.
If I am Latvian in the US, and somehow Latvians have a survival edge after the Fall, I will find other Latvians. For one, I go to church with a bunch of them. I have been to their houses. For two they speak and read Latvian. I can put up signs. Also there is a restaurant we all used to go to and so I would recognize them if I saw them. They think like me, we have a shared background, we can talk and we get along. We can definitely team up.
Your Lightwings are raised human. Their families are human and their background is their human background. The only thing I as a Lightwing have in common with other Lightwings is that at the time Lightwing bodies were on offer, I thought they looked cool and I thought I would try it out. I chose Lightwings because I have always been hot for Tinkerbell but maybe it turns out that a vast majority of people who chose to be Lightwings chose that because they were old and aching and very heavy and were tired of it. These old folks qua Lightwings like to complain and argue, and voice their suspicions about what kind of people the other Lightwings were before they were Lightwings. They are not much for the teaming up.
My buddies, on the other hand, are a bunch of other things besides Lightwings. In once sense that is a shame because there is no Tinkerbell equivalent, but otherwise it works well. It is easier hanging with them because they are not fussy old jerks and actually our strengths complement each other.
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Transhumanism runes are no longer available.
If you and your family were hungry, and had the opportunity to change yourself such that you all would not be so hungry, probably you would do it. You are right that after the Fall lots of people would want to be Lightwings. But after the Fall (or at some point before) the Transhuman runes are no longer available. The Lightwings that already exist will not increase in number - there is no way to do it. Except possibly by breeding...
2. Lightwings have no inherent affiliation with other Lightwings.
If I am Latvian in the US, and somehow Latvians have a survival edge after the Fall, I will find other Latvians. For one, I go to church with a bunch of them. I have been to their houses. For two they speak and read Latvian. I can put up signs. Also there is a restaurant we all used to go to and so I would recognize them if I saw them. They think like me, we have a shared background, we can talk and we get along. We can definitely team up.
Your Lightwings are raised human. Their families are human and their background is their human background. The only thing I as a Lightwing have in common with other Lightwings is that at the time Lightwing bodies were on offer, I thought they looked cool and I thought I would try it out. I chose Lightwings because I have always been hot for Tinkerbell but maybe it turns out that a vast majority of people who chose to be Lightwings chose that because they were old and aching and very heavy and were tired of it. These old folks qua Lightwings like to complain and argue, and voice their suspicions about what kind of people the other Lightwings were before they were Lightwings. They are not much for the teaming up.
My buddies, on the other hand, are a bunch of other things besides Lightwings. In once sense that is a shame because there is no Tinkerbell equivalent, but otherwise it works well. It is easier hanging with them because they are not fussy old jerks and actually our strengths complement each other.
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I loled at the part about Tinkerbell. And to clarify, yes, I was talking about them eventually reproducing since their societies would have much larger "carrying capacities" than human societies.
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– Jason Clyde
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#2 would be a very meaningful limiter in the first few years, but if you think about it, eventually you're going to want to find yourself a Tinkerbell and settle down so you can have little tinker-babies. By the 2nd or 3rd generation, family tribalism will become more important than pre-transformation acquaintances.
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I loled at the part about Tinkerbell. And to clarify, yes, I was talking about them eventually reproducing since their societies would have much larger "carrying capacities" than human societies.
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– Jason Clyde
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#2 would be a very meaningful limiter in the first few years, but if you think about it, eventually you're going to want to find yourself a Tinkerbell and settle down so you can have little tinker-babies. By the 2nd or 3rd generation, family tribalism will become more important than pre-transformation acquaintances.
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– Nosajimiki
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I loled at the part about Tinkerbell. And to clarify, yes, I was talking about them eventually reproducing since their societies would have much larger "carrying capacities" than human societies.
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– Jason Clyde
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I loled at the part about Tinkerbell. And to clarify, yes, I was talking about them eventually reproducing since their societies would have much larger "carrying capacities" than human societies.
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– Jason Clyde
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#2 would be a very meaningful limiter in the first few years, but if you think about it, eventually you're going to want to find yourself a Tinkerbell and settle down so you can have little tinker-babies. By the 2nd or 3rd generation, family tribalism will become more important than pre-transformation acquaintances.
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– Nosajimiki
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#2 would be a very meaningful limiter in the first few years, but if you think about it, eventually you're going to want to find yourself a Tinkerbell and settle down so you can have little tinker-babies. By the 2nd or 3rd generation, family tribalism will become more important than pre-transformation acquaintances.
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Because lightwings are solitary creatures. To the point of being unable to exist with other lightwings unless it's mating season.
They explode.
You move one lightwing to another one and closer they get they start to magically vibrate and when they touch they resonate with each other channelling their inner magic on the same oscilloscopy level of recipient and it make them explode.
Also ancient curse. Modern curse. that one rune that make them die. and that spell that make more than three lightwings on square meter turn into hotdogs.
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you don't need ot have them explode they could just be less social than humans, humans greatest strength is that we are VERY social, human communities of the high dozens to low hundreds are pretty normal. If fairies are rarely found in anything large than the immediate family that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
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– John
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This would definitely do it without the exploding bit. Just make them unsociable to the point of organising at a band level maximum (50 lightwings or so), with groups trending towards a dozen.
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– Ynneadwraith
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Maybe loose the explosion, but absolutely must keep the hot dog part. I would read that book.
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– JPhi1618
1 hour ago
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Because lightwings are solitary creatures. To the point of being unable to exist with other lightwings unless it's mating season.
They explode.
You move one lightwing to another one and closer they get they start to magically vibrate and when they touch they resonate with each other channelling their inner magic on the same oscilloscopy level of recipient and it make them explode.
Also ancient curse. Modern curse. that one rune that make them die. and that spell that make more than three lightwings on square meter turn into hotdogs.
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you don't need ot have them explode they could just be less social than humans, humans greatest strength is that we are VERY social, human communities of the high dozens to low hundreds are pretty normal. If fairies are rarely found in anything large than the immediate family that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
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– John
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This would definitely do it without the exploding bit. Just make them unsociable to the point of organising at a band level maximum (50 lightwings or so), with groups trending towards a dozen.
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– Ynneadwraith
4 hours ago
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Maybe loose the explosion, but absolutely must keep the hot dog part. I would read that book.
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– JPhi1618
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Because lightwings are solitary creatures. To the point of being unable to exist with other lightwings unless it's mating season.
They explode.
You move one lightwing to another one and closer they get they start to magically vibrate and when they touch they resonate with each other channelling their inner magic on the same oscilloscopy level of recipient and it make them explode.
Also ancient curse. Modern curse. that one rune that make them die. and that spell that make more than three lightwings on square meter turn into hotdogs.
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Because lightwings are solitary creatures. To the point of being unable to exist with other lightwings unless it's mating season.
They explode.
You move one lightwing to another one and closer they get they start to magically vibrate and when they touch they resonate with each other channelling their inner magic on the same oscilloscopy level of recipient and it make them explode.
Also ancient curse. Modern curse. that one rune that make them die. and that spell that make more than three lightwings on square meter turn into hotdogs.
answered 4 hours ago
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you don't need ot have them explode they could just be less social than humans, humans greatest strength is that we are VERY social, human communities of the high dozens to low hundreds are pretty normal. If fairies are rarely found in anything large than the immediate family that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
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– John
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This would definitely do it without the exploding bit. Just make them unsociable to the point of organising at a band level maximum (50 lightwings or so), with groups trending towards a dozen.
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– Ynneadwraith
4 hours ago
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Maybe loose the explosion, but absolutely must keep the hot dog part. I would read that book.
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– JPhi1618
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you don't need ot have them explode they could just be less social than humans, humans greatest strength is that we are VERY social, human communities of the high dozens to low hundreds are pretty normal. If fairies are rarely found in anything large than the immediate family that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
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– John
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This would definitely do it without the exploding bit. Just make them unsociable to the point of organising at a band level maximum (50 lightwings or so), with groups trending towards a dozen.
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– Ynneadwraith
4 hours ago
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Maybe loose the explosion, but absolutely must keep the hot dog part. I would read that book.
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– JPhi1618
1 hour ago
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you don't need ot have them explode they could just be less social than humans, humans greatest strength is that we are VERY social, human communities of the high dozens to low hundreds are pretty normal. If fairies are rarely found in anything large than the immediate family that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
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– John
4 hours ago
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you don't need ot have them explode they could just be less social than humans, humans greatest strength is that we are VERY social, human communities of the high dozens to low hundreds are pretty normal. If fairies are rarely found in anything large than the immediate family that puts them at a significant disadvantage.
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– John
4 hours ago
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This would definitely do it without the exploding bit. Just make them unsociable to the point of organising at a band level maximum (50 lightwings or so), with groups trending towards a dozen.
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– Ynneadwraith
4 hours ago
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This would definitely do it without the exploding bit. Just make them unsociable to the point of organising at a band level maximum (50 lightwings or so), with groups trending towards a dozen.
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– Ynneadwraith
4 hours ago
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Maybe loose the explosion, but absolutely must keep the hot dog part. I would read that book.
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– JPhi1618
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Maybe loose the explosion, but absolutely must keep the hot dog part. I would read that book.
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You say they require less resources because they are tiny yet still are equal in a fight with a human. But why wouldnt you just say "they might be tiny but still use similar amount of food and water as humans"? Give them an ability for eating a lot in a short amount of time to shut people up about "tiny mouths=needs to eat most of the day" and you are done.
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You say they require less resources because they are tiny yet still are equal in a fight with a human. But why wouldnt you just say "they might be tiny but still use similar amount of food and water as humans"? Give them an ability for eating a lot in a short amount of time to shut people up about "tiny mouths=needs to eat most of the day" and you are done.
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You say they require less resources because they are tiny yet still are equal in a fight with a human. But why wouldnt you just say "they might be tiny but still use similar amount of food and water as humans"? Give them an ability for eating a lot in a short amount of time to shut people up about "tiny mouths=needs to eat most of the day" and you are done.
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You say they require less resources because they are tiny yet still are equal in a fight with a human. But why wouldnt you just say "they might be tiny but still use similar amount of food and water as humans"? Give them an ability for eating a lot in a short amount of time to shut people up about "tiny mouths=needs to eat most of the day" and you are done.
answered 4 hours ago
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They eat things that humans do not, and that is as scarce as human food. You could make them reliant on some shared resource but have others be completely separate if you want to give them a reason to fight (they both drink water, but eat totally incompatible foods, for example).
This doesn't solve the living space issues - lightwings could fit in smaller spaces, but fighting over their scarce food means they isolate themselves into smaller groups. They may also need some special environment to be comfortable and happy. Humans like to be out of the weather and somewhere around 70 degrees. Maybe lightwings need very high humidity, or they can't handle extreme temperatures. Those examples might limit their range too much for your story, but some other acceptable requirement could limit their ability to congregate in large numbers but still allow them to live in various locations/environments.
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They eat things that humans do not, and that is as scarce as human food. You could make them reliant on some shared resource but have others be completely separate if you want to give them a reason to fight (they both drink water, but eat totally incompatible foods, for example).
This doesn't solve the living space issues - lightwings could fit in smaller spaces, but fighting over their scarce food means they isolate themselves into smaller groups. They may also need some special environment to be comfortable and happy. Humans like to be out of the weather and somewhere around 70 degrees. Maybe lightwings need very high humidity, or they can't handle extreme temperatures. Those examples might limit their range too much for your story, but some other acceptable requirement could limit their ability to congregate in large numbers but still allow them to live in various locations/environments.
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They eat things that humans do not, and that is as scarce as human food. You could make them reliant on some shared resource but have others be completely separate if you want to give them a reason to fight (they both drink water, but eat totally incompatible foods, for example).
This doesn't solve the living space issues - lightwings could fit in smaller spaces, but fighting over their scarce food means they isolate themselves into smaller groups. They may also need some special environment to be comfortable and happy. Humans like to be out of the weather and somewhere around 70 degrees. Maybe lightwings need very high humidity, or they can't handle extreme temperatures. Those examples might limit their range too much for your story, but some other acceptable requirement could limit their ability to congregate in large numbers but still allow them to live in various locations/environments.
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They eat things that humans do not, and that is as scarce as human food. You could make them reliant on some shared resource but have others be completely separate if you want to give them a reason to fight (they both drink water, but eat totally incompatible foods, for example).
This doesn't solve the living space issues - lightwings could fit in smaller spaces, but fighting over their scarce food means they isolate themselves into smaller groups. They may also need some special environment to be comfortable and happy. Humans like to be out of the weather and somewhere around 70 degrees. Maybe lightwings need very high humidity, or they can't handle extreme temperatures. Those examples might limit their range too much for your story, but some other acceptable requirement could limit their ability to congregate in large numbers but still allow them to live in various locations/environments.
answered 1 hour ago
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If your fairies retain their intelligence then there aren't many options actually
Arrogance
Simple enough. Because of how easy it is for them to survive and flourish(as compared to non-fairies), they begin to believe the world belongs to them, all the more so when you consider their numbers. In other words, they develop a sense of manifest destiny. They don't go around in large swarms mainly because they see no need/can't be bothered to organize themselves sufficiently. Hostile encounters between fairies and non-fairies tend to be in small groups or even one on one because of a twisted sense of honour, which is probably just a veneer for sadism.
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If your fairies retain their intelligence then there aren't many options actually
Arrogance
Simple enough. Because of how easy it is for them to survive and flourish(as compared to non-fairies), they begin to believe the world belongs to them, all the more so when you consider their numbers. In other words, they develop a sense of manifest destiny. They don't go around in large swarms mainly because they see no need/can't be bothered to organize themselves sufficiently. Hostile encounters between fairies and non-fairies tend to be in small groups or even one on one because of a twisted sense of honour, which is probably just a veneer for sadism.
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If your fairies retain their intelligence then there aren't many options actually
Arrogance
Simple enough. Because of how easy it is for them to survive and flourish(as compared to non-fairies), they begin to believe the world belongs to them, all the more so when you consider their numbers. In other words, they develop a sense of manifest destiny. They don't go around in large swarms mainly because they see no need/can't be bothered to organize themselves sufficiently. Hostile encounters between fairies and non-fairies tend to be in small groups or even one on one because of a twisted sense of honour, which is probably just a veneer for sadism.
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If your fairies retain their intelligence then there aren't many options actually
Arrogance
Simple enough. Because of how easy it is for them to survive and flourish(as compared to non-fairies), they begin to believe the world belongs to them, all the more so when you consider their numbers. In other words, they develop a sense of manifest destiny. They don't go around in large swarms mainly because they see no need/can't be bothered to organize themselves sufficiently. Hostile encounters between fairies and non-fairies tend to be in small groups or even one on one because of a twisted sense of honour, which is probably just a veneer for sadism.
answered 4 hours ago
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They're fascinated by bright lights, hence the name.
If your humans can survive the night, they'll find the entire Lightwing army staring stupidly at the sun, which is when most predators hunt for them.
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They're fascinated by bright lights, hence the name.
If your humans can survive the night, they'll find the entire Lightwing army staring stupidly at the sun, which is when most predators hunt for them.
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They're fascinated by bright lights, hence the name.
If your humans can survive the night, they'll find the entire Lightwing army staring stupidly at the sun, which is when most predators hunt for them.
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They're fascinated by bright lights, hence the name.
If your humans can survive the night, they'll find the entire Lightwing army staring stupidly at the sun, which is when most predators hunt for them.
answered 4 hours ago
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They are way less social than humans, large lightwing villages have around 20-30 individuals, whereas the smallest human communities typically, bands, range from 20-50 individuals. The typical human community in your setting are tribes with ~150 individuals.
An individual human and an individual lightwing are evenly matched, but a human community and a lightwing community are not, in most cases lightwings are at serious disadvantage.
This is not hard to achieve, if lightwings are less trusting, and only tend to congregate as immediate family they can't form the large groups humans can.
Alternatively if you still want to be somewhat social, their magic start to interfere with each other. If you get to many living to close their magic stops working, or at least becomes more and more unpredictable and problematic. So a lightwing family may be fine IN a large human community, but a large community of lightwings turns into a huge fight, or more likely it is so disruptive they immediately split into smaller communities.
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They are way less social than humans, large lightwing villages have around 20-30 individuals, whereas the smallest human communities typically, bands, range from 20-50 individuals. The typical human community in your setting are tribes with ~150 individuals.
An individual human and an individual lightwing are evenly matched, but a human community and a lightwing community are not, in most cases lightwings are at serious disadvantage.
This is not hard to achieve, if lightwings are less trusting, and only tend to congregate as immediate family they can't form the large groups humans can.
Alternatively if you still want to be somewhat social, their magic start to interfere with each other. If you get to many living to close their magic stops working, or at least becomes more and more unpredictable and problematic. So a lightwing family may be fine IN a large human community, but a large community of lightwings turns into a huge fight, or more likely it is so disruptive they immediately split into smaller communities.
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They are way less social than humans, large lightwing villages have around 20-30 individuals, whereas the smallest human communities typically, bands, range from 20-50 individuals. The typical human community in your setting are tribes with ~150 individuals.
An individual human and an individual lightwing are evenly matched, but a human community and a lightwing community are not, in most cases lightwings are at serious disadvantage.
This is not hard to achieve, if lightwings are less trusting, and only tend to congregate as immediate family they can't form the large groups humans can.
Alternatively if you still want to be somewhat social, their magic start to interfere with each other. If you get to many living to close their magic stops working, or at least becomes more and more unpredictable and problematic. So a lightwing family may be fine IN a large human community, but a large community of lightwings turns into a huge fight, or more likely it is so disruptive they immediately split into smaller communities.
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They are way less social than humans, large lightwing villages have around 20-30 individuals, whereas the smallest human communities typically, bands, range from 20-50 individuals. The typical human community in your setting are tribes with ~150 individuals.
An individual human and an individual lightwing are evenly matched, but a human community and a lightwing community are not, in most cases lightwings are at serious disadvantage.
This is not hard to achieve, if lightwings are less trusting, and only tend to congregate as immediate family they can't form the large groups humans can.
Alternatively if you still want to be somewhat social, their magic start to interfere with each other. If you get to many living to close their magic stops working, or at least becomes more and more unpredictable and problematic. So a lightwing family may be fine IN a large human community, but a large community of lightwings turns into a huge fight, or more likely it is so disruptive they immediately split into smaller communities.
answered 4 hours ago
JohnJohn
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Having just watched the scene in The Matrix, where Agent Smith describes how humanity is the only 'mammal' seemingly incapable of establishing an equilibrium with its surroundings, the only answer so far is that, that is just not their way. Otherwise this answer will quickly dissolve into reasons against the statement that humans have not established an equilibrium (oh, no... we're running out of oil. Again).
On the face of it your question seems story based, but it's actually one of logistics; as all good questions are. Native Americans had respect for their land, because they had respect for the generations that would come after them. It's simple sound logic. But what compels a culture to comply is a question for the ages ... or a damn history book.
You should watch Wizards
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The issue with a cultural explanation is that it’ll be a long time before lightwings even have their own culture. As I said, the first generation is made up of ex-human transhumans, so they were raised in whatever human culture they were born into.
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– Jason Clyde
56 mins ago
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@JasonClyde - Get back to me after you've watched Wizards. The Old Ways are bad. We don't do that anymore.
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– Mazura
53 mins ago
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Having just watched the scene in The Matrix, where Agent Smith describes how humanity is the only 'mammal' seemingly incapable of establishing an equilibrium with its surroundings, the only answer so far is that, that is just not their way. Otherwise this answer will quickly dissolve into reasons against the statement that humans have not established an equilibrium (oh, no... we're running out of oil. Again).
On the face of it your question seems story based, but it's actually one of logistics; as all good questions are. Native Americans had respect for their land, because they had respect for the generations that would come after them. It's simple sound logic. But what compels a culture to comply is a question for the ages ... or a damn history book.
You should watch Wizards
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The issue with a cultural explanation is that it’ll be a long time before lightwings even have their own culture. As I said, the first generation is made up of ex-human transhumans, so they were raised in whatever human culture they were born into.
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– Jason Clyde
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@JasonClyde - Get back to me after you've watched Wizards. The Old Ways are bad. We don't do that anymore.
$endgroup$
– Mazura
53 mins ago
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$begingroup$
Having just watched the scene in The Matrix, where Agent Smith describes how humanity is the only 'mammal' seemingly incapable of establishing an equilibrium with its surroundings, the only answer so far is that, that is just not their way. Otherwise this answer will quickly dissolve into reasons against the statement that humans have not established an equilibrium (oh, no... we're running out of oil. Again).
On the face of it your question seems story based, but it's actually one of logistics; as all good questions are. Native Americans had respect for their land, because they had respect for the generations that would come after them. It's simple sound logic. But what compels a culture to comply is a question for the ages ... or a damn history book.
You should watch Wizards
$endgroup$
Having just watched the scene in The Matrix, where Agent Smith describes how humanity is the only 'mammal' seemingly incapable of establishing an equilibrium with its surroundings, the only answer so far is that, that is just not their way. Otherwise this answer will quickly dissolve into reasons against the statement that humans have not established an equilibrium (oh, no... we're running out of oil. Again).
On the face of it your question seems story based, but it's actually one of logistics; as all good questions are. Native Americans had respect for their land, because they had respect for the generations that would come after them. It's simple sound logic. But what compels a culture to comply is a question for the ages ... or a damn history book.
You should watch Wizards
answered 1 hour ago
MazuraMazura
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The issue with a cultural explanation is that it’ll be a long time before lightwings even have their own culture. As I said, the first generation is made up of ex-human transhumans, so they were raised in whatever human culture they were born into.
$endgroup$
– Jason Clyde
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@JasonClyde - Get back to me after you've watched Wizards. The Old Ways are bad. We don't do that anymore.
$endgroup$
– Mazura
53 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The issue with a cultural explanation is that it’ll be a long time before lightwings even have their own culture. As I said, the first generation is made up of ex-human transhumans, so they were raised in whatever human culture they were born into.
$endgroup$
– Jason Clyde
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@JasonClyde - Get back to me after you've watched Wizards. The Old Ways are bad. We don't do that anymore.
$endgroup$
– Mazura
53 mins ago
$begingroup$
The issue with a cultural explanation is that it’ll be a long time before lightwings even have their own culture. As I said, the first generation is made up of ex-human transhumans, so they were raised in whatever human culture they were born into.
$endgroup$
– Jason Clyde
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
The issue with a cultural explanation is that it’ll be a long time before lightwings even have their own culture. As I said, the first generation is made up of ex-human transhumans, so they were raised in whatever human culture they were born into.
$endgroup$
– Jason Clyde
56 mins ago
$begingroup$
@JasonClyde - Get back to me after you've watched Wizards. The Old Ways are bad. We don't do that anymore.
$endgroup$
– Mazura
53 mins ago
$begingroup$
@JasonClyde - Get back to me after you've watched Wizards. The Old Ways are bad. We don't do that anymore.
$endgroup$
– Mazura
53 mins ago
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The easiest way is to limit their diet. Maybe they can only eat fruit (which goes bad rapidly and is more scarce in winter), or any one particular type of food. Maybe they can only eat raw meat, for instance, forcing them to hunt and making food storage essentially useless (but making a large sized rat a veritable feast). Even with lower-than-a-hummingbird metabolisms, restricted food sources could make being one less attractive.
Or you could limit them other ways. Such as, they don't eat at all but subsist off dew and sunlight (legends of fairies have suggested they once did). If that's the case then periods of dryness or dark could be very weakening to them. That would be a major factor in choosing to stay a lightwing, especially with only 7 days to become used to it. If night times forced a person to seek cover and hide because the longer the night went on the weaker they'd get, well, a lot of people wouldn't be happy with that sort of trade-off, no matter what power they had by day.
To someone used to always being strong, suddenly feeling great weakness would be a disorienting and frightening feeling, especially especially for someone who's sole focus is survival. Seven days isn't really enough time to get used to or adapt to such a thing either, so quite a number of people might Nope right out of their trial period and never look back.
Another limiting factor could be language--maybe lightwings speak only their own language and must relearn the dominant language, and even then may never speak it very well. This would mean families and friends may not be able to speak to one another, and that could be heavy factor in deciding.
Also, never underestimate "peer pressure." Choosing a form also means choosing other things. If a husband wants to be a lightwing but the wife wants to be an elf, they have a decision to make--separate as a couple or choose another form (unless they don't like sex). Or say the couple is fine with it but their child is stubbornly set on being an orc--how does a lightwing raise an orc? Or if all a child's friends are orcs, will they want to remain a lightwing? In this form they may rule at hide and seek, but they'll certainly never be part of a baseball game. Those sorts of peer group and familial pressures may drive a lot of people from the choice.
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The easiest way is to limit their diet. Maybe they can only eat fruit (which goes bad rapidly and is more scarce in winter), or any one particular type of food. Maybe they can only eat raw meat, for instance, forcing them to hunt and making food storage essentially useless (but making a large sized rat a veritable feast). Even with lower-than-a-hummingbird metabolisms, restricted food sources could make being one less attractive.
Or you could limit them other ways. Such as, they don't eat at all but subsist off dew and sunlight (legends of fairies have suggested they once did). If that's the case then periods of dryness or dark could be very weakening to them. That would be a major factor in choosing to stay a lightwing, especially with only 7 days to become used to it. If night times forced a person to seek cover and hide because the longer the night went on the weaker they'd get, well, a lot of people wouldn't be happy with that sort of trade-off, no matter what power they had by day.
To someone used to always being strong, suddenly feeling great weakness would be a disorienting and frightening feeling, especially especially for someone who's sole focus is survival. Seven days isn't really enough time to get used to or adapt to such a thing either, so quite a number of people might Nope right out of their trial period and never look back.
Another limiting factor could be language--maybe lightwings speak only their own language and must relearn the dominant language, and even then may never speak it very well. This would mean families and friends may not be able to speak to one another, and that could be heavy factor in deciding.
Also, never underestimate "peer pressure." Choosing a form also means choosing other things. If a husband wants to be a lightwing but the wife wants to be an elf, they have a decision to make--separate as a couple or choose another form (unless they don't like sex). Or say the couple is fine with it but their child is stubbornly set on being an orc--how does a lightwing raise an orc? Or if all a child's friends are orcs, will they want to remain a lightwing? In this form they may rule at hide and seek, but they'll certainly never be part of a baseball game. Those sorts of peer group and familial pressures may drive a lot of people from the choice.
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The easiest way is to limit their diet. Maybe they can only eat fruit (which goes bad rapidly and is more scarce in winter), or any one particular type of food. Maybe they can only eat raw meat, for instance, forcing them to hunt and making food storage essentially useless (but making a large sized rat a veritable feast). Even with lower-than-a-hummingbird metabolisms, restricted food sources could make being one less attractive.
Or you could limit them other ways. Such as, they don't eat at all but subsist off dew and sunlight (legends of fairies have suggested they once did). If that's the case then periods of dryness or dark could be very weakening to them. That would be a major factor in choosing to stay a lightwing, especially with only 7 days to become used to it. If night times forced a person to seek cover and hide because the longer the night went on the weaker they'd get, well, a lot of people wouldn't be happy with that sort of trade-off, no matter what power they had by day.
To someone used to always being strong, suddenly feeling great weakness would be a disorienting and frightening feeling, especially especially for someone who's sole focus is survival. Seven days isn't really enough time to get used to or adapt to such a thing either, so quite a number of people might Nope right out of their trial period and never look back.
Another limiting factor could be language--maybe lightwings speak only their own language and must relearn the dominant language, and even then may never speak it very well. This would mean families and friends may not be able to speak to one another, and that could be heavy factor in deciding.
Also, never underestimate "peer pressure." Choosing a form also means choosing other things. If a husband wants to be a lightwing but the wife wants to be an elf, they have a decision to make--separate as a couple or choose another form (unless they don't like sex). Or say the couple is fine with it but their child is stubbornly set on being an orc--how does a lightwing raise an orc? Or if all a child's friends are orcs, will they want to remain a lightwing? In this form they may rule at hide and seek, but they'll certainly never be part of a baseball game. Those sorts of peer group and familial pressures may drive a lot of people from the choice.
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The easiest way is to limit their diet. Maybe they can only eat fruit (which goes bad rapidly and is more scarce in winter), or any one particular type of food. Maybe they can only eat raw meat, for instance, forcing them to hunt and making food storage essentially useless (but making a large sized rat a veritable feast). Even with lower-than-a-hummingbird metabolisms, restricted food sources could make being one less attractive.
Or you could limit them other ways. Such as, they don't eat at all but subsist off dew and sunlight (legends of fairies have suggested they once did). If that's the case then periods of dryness or dark could be very weakening to them. That would be a major factor in choosing to stay a lightwing, especially with only 7 days to become used to it. If night times forced a person to seek cover and hide because the longer the night went on the weaker they'd get, well, a lot of people wouldn't be happy with that sort of trade-off, no matter what power they had by day.
To someone used to always being strong, suddenly feeling great weakness would be a disorienting and frightening feeling, especially especially for someone who's sole focus is survival. Seven days isn't really enough time to get used to or adapt to such a thing either, so quite a number of people might Nope right out of their trial period and never look back.
Another limiting factor could be language--maybe lightwings speak only their own language and must relearn the dominant language, and even then may never speak it very well. This would mean families and friends may not be able to speak to one another, and that could be heavy factor in deciding.
Also, never underestimate "peer pressure." Choosing a form also means choosing other things. If a husband wants to be a lightwing but the wife wants to be an elf, they have a decision to make--separate as a couple or choose another form (unless they don't like sex). Or say the couple is fine with it but their child is stubbornly set on being an orc--how does a lightwing raise an orc? Or if all a child's friends are orcs, will they want to remain a lightwing? In this form they may rule at hide and seek, but they'll certainly never be part of a baseball game. Those sorts of peer group and familial pressures may drive a lot of people from the choice.
answered 11 mins ago
FirelockeFirelocke
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