Where did Ptolemy compare the Earth to the distance of fixed stars?












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I read the following in C. S. Lewis, Miracles (page 77-8)




The immensity of the universe is not a recent discovery. More than seventeen hundred years ago Ptolemy taught that in relation to the distance of the fixed stars the whole Earth must be regarded as a point with no magnitude.




There was no reference given, but I assume this would be in the Almagest. However, I don't know where in that work (or elsewhere) Ptolemy discussed this. I want to read his explanation for that view.



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    I read the following in C. S. Lewis, Miracles (page 77-8)




    The immensity of the universe is not a recent discovery. More than seventeen hundred years ago Ptolemy taught that in relation to the distance of the fixed stars the whole Earth must be regarded as a point with no magnitude.




    There was no reference given, but I assume this would be in the Almagest. However, I don't know where in that work (or elsewhere) Ptolemy discussed this. I want to read his explanation for that view.



    Hence the question: Where did Ptolemy compare the Earth to the distance of fixed stars?










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      I read the following in C. S. Lewis, Miracles (page 77-8)




      The immensity of the universe is not a recent discovery. More than seventeen hundred years ago Ptolemy taught that in relation to the distance of the fixed stars the whole Earth must be regarded as a point with no magnitude.




      There was no reference given, but I assume this would be in the Almagest. However, I don't know where in that work (or elsewhere) Ptolemy discussed this. I want to read his explanation for that view.



      Hence the question: Where did Ptolemy compare the Earth to the distance of fixed stars?










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      The immensity of the universe is not a recent discovery. More than seventeen hundred years ago Ptolemy taught that in relation to the distance of the fixed stars the whole Earth must be regarded as a point with no magnitude.




      There was no reference given, but I assume this would be in the Almagest. However, I don't know where in that work (or elsewhere) Ptolemy discussed this. I want to read his explanation for that view.



      Hence the question: Where did Ptolemy compare the Earth to the distance of fixed stars?







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          Ptolemy's argument can be simply explained in plain English. If the distance to stars
          was comparable to the size of the Earth, the stars would experience a diurnal parallax, that is the visible relative positions of the stars in the sky would change during one night. But this is not observed.



          By the way, a similar argument will imply that if the Earth is rotating about the Sun
          (or moves in some other way), the distance to the stars must be much larger than the size of this motion. In particular the diameter of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun is negligible in comparison to the distance to the stars.



          This was the most serious argument against the Heliocentric system, and it is also
          due to Ptolemy. Until the acceptance of Copernicus theory, people just could not believe that the distance to the stars can be so large.






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            Almagest, Book 1, chap. 5 ................






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              Ptolemy's argument can be simply explained in plain English. If the distance to stars
              was comparable to the size of the Earth, the stars would experience a diurnal parallax, that is the visible relative positions of the stars in the sky would change during one night. But this is not observed.



              By the way, a similar argument will imply that if the Earth is rotating about the Sun
              (or moves in some other way), the distance to the stars must be much larger than the size of this motion. In particular the diameter of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun is negligible in comparison to the distance to the stars.



              This was the most serious argument against the Heliocentric system, and it is also
              due to Ptolemy. Until the acceptance of Copernicus theory, people just could not believe that the distance to the stars can be so large.






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                Ptolemy's argument can be simply explained in plain English. If the distance to stars
                was comparable to the size of the Earth, the stars would experience a diurnal parallax, that is the visible relative positions of the stars in the sky would change during one night. But this is not observed.



                By the way, a similar argument will imply that if the Earth is rotating about the Sun
                (or moves in some other way), the distance to the stars must be much larger than the size of this motion. In particular the diameter of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun is negligible in comparison to the distance to the stars.



                This was the most serious argument against the Heliocentric system, and it is also
                due to Ptolemy. Until the acceptance of Copernicus theory, people just could not believe that the distance to the stars can be so large.






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                  Ptolemy's argument can be simply explained in plain English. If the distance to stars
                  was comparable to the size of the Earth, the stars would experience a diurnal parallax, that is the visible relative positions of the stars in the sky would change during one night. But this is not observed.



                  By the way, a similar argument will imply that if the Earth is rotating about the Sun
                  (or moves in some other way), the distance to the stars must be much larger than the size of this motion. In particular the diameter of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun is negligible in comparison to the distance to the stars.



                  This was the most serious argument against the Heliocentric system, and it is also
                  due to Ptolemy. Until the acceptance of Copernicus theory, people just could not believe that the distance to the stars can be so large.






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                  Ptolemy's argument can be simply explained in plain English. If the distance to stars
                  was comparable to the size of the Earth, the stars would experience a diurnal parallax, that is the visible relative positions of the stars in the sky would change during one night. But this is not observed.



                  By the way, a similar argument will imply that if the Earth is rotating about the Sun
                  (or moves in some other way), the distance to the stars must be much larger than the size of this motion. In particular the diameter of the orbit of the Earth around the Sun is negligible in comparison to the distance to the stars.



                  This was the most serious argument against the Heliocentric system, and it is also
                  due to Ptolemy. Until the acceptance of Copernicus theory, people just could not believe that the distance to the stars can be so large.







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