Why does Spock recommend this not be spoken of anymore?
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At the end of ST:DIS 2x14, Spock recommends that
all officers remaining with knowledge of these events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery, its spore drive, or her crew again
in order to prevent the experienced series of events from unfolding again.
This left me deeply confused.
I understand that the data
gathered from the Sphere
was instrumental in
Control gaining self-awareness
Thus, the plan was to send
the ship along with the data, which is magically locked to the ship, off into the far future where it is out of reach.
So, what in the world is Spock's recommendation supposed to achieve in-universe?
Given that various methods of time travel are known in the 23rd century, it is conceivable no-one should know the data is on Discovery. But about the rest - surely, Starfleet cannot just deny the existence of the Discovery's crew. And what does the spore drive have to do with it, anyway? As far as I remember, it played a significant role during several events of the Klingon war, which are definitely noted in Starfleet's historical records, but it was completely irrelevant to Control's rise.
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At the end of ST:DIS 2x14, Spock recommends that
all officers remaining with knowledge of these events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery, its spore drive, or her crew again
in order to prevent the experienced series of events from unfolding again.
This left me deeply confused.
I understand that the data
gathered from the Sphere
was instrumental in
Control gaining self-awareness
Thus, the plan was to send
the ship along with the data, which is magically locked to the ship, off into the far future where it is out of reach.
So, what in the world is Spock's recommendation supposed to achieve in-universe?
Given that various methods of time travel are known in the 23rd century, it is conceivable no-one should know the data is on Discovery. But about the rest - surely, Starfleet cannot just deny the existence of the Discovery's crew. And what does the spore drive have to do with it, anyway? As far as I remember, it played a significant role during several events of the Klingon war, which are definitely noted in Starfleet's historical records, but it was completely irrelevant to Control's rise.
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Bad writing. It answers many questions about Discovery.
– starpilotsix
2 hours ago
@starpilotsix - scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12432/…
– Valorum
2 hours ago
2
not being snarky - it is a good out of universe reason to reconcile how none of these events were ever mentioned
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
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At the end of ST:DIS 2x14, Spock recommends that
all officers remaining with knowledge of these events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery, its spore drive, or her crew again
in order to prevent the experienced series of events from unfolding again.
This left me deeply confused.
I understand that the data
gathered from the Sphere
was instrumental in
Control gaining self-awareness
Thus, the plan was to send
the ship along with the data, which is magically locked to the ship, off into the far future where it is out of reach.
So, what in the world is Spock's recommendation supposed to achieve in-universe?
Given that various methods of time travel are known in the 23rd century, it is conceivable no-one should know the data is on Discovery. But about the rest - surely, Starfleet cannot just deny the existence of the Discovery's crew. And what does the spore drive have to do with it, anyway? As far as I remember, it played a significant role during several events of the Klingon war, which are definitely noted in Starfleet's historical records, but it was completely irrelevant to Control's rise.
star-trek star-trek-discovery
At the end of ST:DIS 2x14, Spock recommends that
all officers remaining with knowledge of these events must be ordered never to speak of Discovery, its spore drive, or her crew again
in order to prevent the experienced series of events from unfolding again.
This left me deeply confused.
I understand that the data
gathered from the Sphere
was instrumental in
Control gaining self-awareness
Thus, the plan was to send
the ship along with the data, which is magically locked to the ship, off into the far future where it is out of reach.
So, what in the world is Spock's recommendation supposed to achieve in-universe?
Given that various methods of time travel are known in the 23rd century, it is conceivable no-one should know the data is on Discovery. But about the rest - surely, Starfleet cannot just deny the existence of the Discovery's crew. And what does the spore drive have to do with it, anyway? As far as I remember, it played a significant role during several events of the Klingon war, which are definitely noted in Starfleet's historical records, but it was completely irrelevant to Control's rise.
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Bad writing. It answers many questions about Discovery.
– starpilotsix
2 hours ago
@starpilotsix - scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12432/…
– Valorum
2 hours ago
2
not being snarky - it is a good out of universe reason to reconcile how none of these events were ever mentioned
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
add a comment |
1
Bad writing. It answers many questions about Discovery.
– starpilotsix
2 hours ago
@starpilotsix - scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12432/…
– Valorum
2 hours ago
2
not being snarky - it is a good out of universe reason to reconcile how none of these events were ever mentioned
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
1
1
Bad writing. It answers many questions about Discovery.
– starpilotsix
2 hours ago
Bad writing. It answers many questions about Discovery.
– starpilotsix
2 hours ago
@starpilotsix - scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12432/…
– Valorum
2 hours ago
@starpilotsix - scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12432/…
– Valorum
2 hours ago
2
2
not being snarky - it is a good out of universe reason to reconcile how none of these events were ever mentioned
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
not being snarky - it is a good out of universe reason to reconcile how none of these events were ever mentioned
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago
add a comment |
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Major spoilers ahead (impractical to wrap this all in spoilers)
It prevents people from asking deeper questions
There's no evidence it exploded (hence the intense questioning). We're not told everything they told Starfleet, but let's assume they omitted the Sphere data debacle. Starfleet knew about Control but would be puzzled why Control was so focused on Discovery. Maybe someone would boot Control back up to ask. By pretending that Discovery was lost, in the absence of other data, Starfleet would stop asking questions (we've seen this elsewhere when convenient lies are used to cover up things).
It stops the Section 31 time travel program
Only Ashe Tyler knows about it now (presumably, since Control purges Section 31) and he knows what's at stake if he chooses to pursue it. It's also safe to assume that this stops the Klingons from pursuing it as well, knowing that it could reawaken a monster. If they said "Oh, Burnham flew her Time Suit and Discovery to the 32nd Century", someone would say "Really? We need one of those" and then you're back in the same mess.
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Major spoilers ahead (impractical to wrap this all in spoilers)
It prevents people from asking deeper questions
There's no evidence it exploded (hence the intense questioning). We're not told everything they told Starfleet, but let's assume they omitted the Sphere data debacle. Starfleet knew about Control but would be puzzled why Control was so focused on Discovery. Maybe someone would boot Control back up to ask. By pretending that Discovery was lost, in the absence of other data, Starfleet would stop asking questions (we've seen this elsewhere when convenient lies are used to cover up things).
It stops the Section 31 time travel program
Only Ashe Tyler knows about it now (presumably, since Control purges Section 31) and he knows what's at stake if he chooses to pursue it. It's also safe to assume that this stops the Klingons from pursuing it as well, knowing that it could reawaken a monster. If they said "Oh, Burnham flew her Time Suit and Discovery to the 32nd Century", someone would say "Really? We need one of those" and then you're back in the same mess.
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Major spoilers ahead (impractical to wrap this all in spoilers)
It prevents people from asking deeper questions
There's no evidence it exploded (hence the intense questioning). We're not told everything they told Starfleet, but let's assume they omitted the Sphere data debacle. Starfleet knew about Control but would be puzzled why Control was so focused on Discovery. Maybe someone would boot Control back up to ask. By pretending that Discovery was lost, in the absence of other data, Starfleet would stop asking questions (we've seen this elsewhere when convenient lies are used to cover up things).
It stops the Section 31 time travel program
Only Ashe Tyler knows about it now (presumably, since Control purges Section 31) and he knows what's at stake if he chooses to pursue it. It's also safe to assume that this stops the Klingons from pursuing it as well, knowing that it could reawaken a monster. If they said "Oh, Burnham flew her Time Suit and Discovery to the 32nd Century", someone would say "Really? We need one of those" and then you're back in the same mess.
add a comment |
Major spoilers ahead (impractical to wrap this all in spoilers)
It prevents people from asking deeper questions
There's no evidence it exploded (hence the intense questioning). We're not told everything they told Starfleet, but let's assume they omitted the Sphere data debacle. Starfleet knew about Control but would be puzzled why Control was so focused on Discovery. Maybe someone would boot Control back up to ask. By pretending that Discovery was lost, in the absence of other data, Starfleet would stop asking questions (we've seen this elsewhere when convenient lies are used to cover up things).
It stops the Section 31 time travel program
Only Ashe Tyler knows about it now (presumably, since Control purges Section 31) and he knows what's at stake if he chooses to pursue it. It's also safe to assume that this stops the Klingons from pursuing it as well, knowing that it could reawaken a monster. If they said "Oh, Burnham flew her Time Suit and Discovery to the 32nd Century", someone would say "Really? We need one of those" and then you're back in the same mess.
Major spoilers ahead (impractical to wrap this all in spoilers)
It prevents people from asking deeper questions
There's no evidence it exploded (hence the intense questioning). We're not told everything they told Starfleet, but let's assume they omitted the Sphere data debacle. Starfleet knew about Control but would be puzzled why Control was so focused on Discovery. Maybe someone would boot Control back up to ask. By pretending that Discovery was lost, in the absence of other data, Starfleet would stop asking questions (we've seen this elsewhere when convenient lies are used to cover up things).
It stops the Section 31 time travel program
Only Ashe Tyler knows about it now (presumably, since Control purges Section 31) and he knows what's at stake if he chooses to pursue it. It's also safe to assume that this stops the Klingons from pursuing it as well, knowing that it could reawaken a monster. If they said "Oh, Burnham flew her Time Suit and Discovery to the 32nd Century", someone would say "Really? We need one of those" and then you're back in the same mess.
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Bad writing. It answers many questions about Discovery.
– starpilotsix
2 hours ago
@starpilotsix - scifi.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/12432/…
– Valorum
2 hours ago
2
not being snarky - it is a good out of universe reason to reconcile how none of these events were ever mentioned
– NKCampbell
1 hour ago