What would the chemical name be for C13H8Cl3NO












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C13H8Cl3NO




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C1=C(C(=CC(=C1)Cl)Cl)N(C(C2=CC=CC=C2)=O)Cl




I found the diagram on the left in a book and drew the one on the right using



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And got the SMILES description from that.



Any clues as to what might be an IUPAC name and the formal way to write it out? Have I have even drawn it correctly? I could not do it exactly because the two rings kept connecting if I followed the same orientation. I don't know enough about double ring compounds to even hazard a guess.



Is there a automatic naming engine out there?



A compound called British Impregnite found in The Scientific method by Louis F. Fieser p.137






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    Chemdoodle thinks it is [N-Chloro(2,4-dichlorophenyl)amino]phenylformaldehyde but there is probably a less systematic version as well.
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    @matt_black Wow, that's like most complicated, but very much not systematic name I've seen.
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enter image description hereFormula




C13H8Cl3NO




SMILES




C1=C(C(=CC(=C1)Cl)Cl)N(C(C2=CC=CC=C2)=O)Cl




I found the diagram on the left in a book and drew the one on the right using



https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/edit2/index.html



And got the SMILES description from that.



Any clues as to what might be an IUPAC name and the formal way to write it out? Have I have even drawn it correctly? I could not do it exactly because the two rings kept connecting if I followed the same orientation. I don't know enough about double ring compounds to even hazard a guess.



Is there a automatic naming engine out there?



A compound called British Impregnite found in The Scientific method by Louis F. Fieser p.137






organic-chemistry nomenclature molecular-structure







share|improve this question











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    Chemdoodle thinks it is [N-Chloro(2,4-dichlorophenyl)amino]phenylformaldehyde but there is probably a less systematic version as well.
    $endgroup$
    – matt_black
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @matt_black Wow, that's like most complicated, but very much not systematic name I've seen.
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    – Mithoron
    4 hours ago






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    @matt_black That's Chemdoodle being Chemdoodle, I think:)
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enter image description hereFormula




C13H8Cl3NO




SMILES




C1=C(C(=CC(=C1)Cl)Cl)N(C(C2=CC=CC=C2)=O)Cl




I found the diagram on the left in a book and drew the one on the right using



https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/edit2/index.html



And got the SMILES description from that.



Any clues as to what might be an IUPAC name and the formal way to write it out? Have I have even drawn it correctly? I could not do it exactly because the two rings kept connecting if I followed the same orientation. I don't know enough about double ring compounds to even hazard a guess.



Is there a automatic naming engine out there?



A compound called British Impregnite found in The Scientific method by Louis F. Fieser p.137






organic-chemistry nomenclature molecular-structure







share|improve this question











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enter image description hereFormula




C13H8Cl3NO




SMILES




C1=C(C(=CC(=C1)Cl)Cl)N(C(C2=CC=CC=C2)=O)Cl




I found the diagram on the left in a book and drew the one on the right using



https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/edit2/index.html



And got the SMILES description from that.



Any clues as to what might be an IUPAC name and the formal way to write it out? Have I have even drawn it correctly? I could not do it exactly because the two rings kept connecting if I followed the same orientation. I don't know enough about double ring compounds to even hazard a guess.



Is there a automatic naming engine out there?



A compound called British Impregnite found in The Scientific method by Louis F. Fieser p.137






organic-chemistry nomenclature molecular-structure




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    $begingroup$
    Chemdoodle thinks it is [N-Chloro(2,4-dichlorophenyl)amino]phenylformaldehyde but there is probably a less systematic version as well.
    $endgroup$
    – matt_black
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @matt_black Wow, that's like most complicated, but very much not systematic name I've seen.
    $endgroup$
    – Mithoron
    4 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    @matt_black That's Chemdoodle being Chemdoodle, I think:)
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    – andselisk
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    Try Chemspider chemspider.com
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    $begingroup$
    Chemdoodle thinks it is [N-Chloro(2,4-dichlorophenyl)amino]phenylformaldehyde but there is probably a less systematic version as well.
    $endgroup$
    – matt_black
    4 hours ago






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @matt_black Wow, that's like most complicated, but very much not systematic name I've seen.
    $endgroup$
    – Mithoron
    4 hours ago






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    @matt_black That's Chemdoodle being Chemdoodle, I think:)
    $endgroup$
    – andselisk
    3 hours ago








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Chemdoodle thinks it is [N-Chloro(2,4-dichlorophenyl)amino]phenylformaldehyde but there is probably a less systematic version as well.
$endgroup$
– matt_black
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$begingroup$
Chemdoodle thinks it is [N-Chloro(2,4-dichlorophenyl)amino]phenylformaldehyde but there is probably a less systematic version as well.
$endgroup$
– matt_black
4 hours ago




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$begingroup$
@matt_black Wow, that's like most complicated, but very much not systematic name I've seen.
$endgroup$
– Mithoron
4 hours ago




$begingroup$
@matt_black Wow, that's like most complicated, but very much not systematic name I've seen.
$endgroup$
– Mithoron
4 hours ago




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$begingroup$
@matt_black That's Chemdoodle being Chemdoodle, I think:)
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– andselisk
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@matt_black That's Chemdoodle being Chemdoodle, I think:)
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Well, let's reconstruct that starting from the very right side, where it says a $ce{C_6H_5}$. The ring and the $ce{CO}$ group would be a benzaldehyde if it had an $ce{H}$ instead of an $ce{N}$, right? Or a benzoic acid if it was $ce{OH}$ instead of $ce{N}$. So what would it be if it had an $ce{NH_2}$-group? It would be a benzamide. If the $ce{N}$ is substituted with for example a chloride we call that N-chlorobenzamide. And now we have another $ce{N}$-centered ligand, the second phenyl ring. The ring has three positions, the one where it's connected to the rest of the molecule would be 1, so that makes a 2,4-dichlorophenyl.



Summarizing we get N-chloro-N-(2,4-dichlorophenyl)benzamide






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    There is a paper [1] reporting a structural investigation of aromatic N-chloroamides.
    They investigated polymorphs of similar compound they refer to as N-chloro-N-phenylbenzamide:




    enter image description here




    Chlorinated product, I suspect, is indeed is going to be named N‐chloro‐N‐(2,4‐dichlorophenyl)benzamide, as the first answer suggested.



    References




    1. Naumov, P.; Topcu, Y.; Eckert-Maksić, M.; Glasovac, Z.; Pavošević, F.; Kochunnoonny, M.; Hara, H. Photoinduced Rearrangement of Aromatic N-Chloroamides to Chloroaromatic Amides in the Solid State: Inverted $Π_ce{N}–Σ_ce{N}$ Occupational Stability of Amidyl Radicals. The Journal of Physical Chemistry A 2011, 115 (26), 7834–7848. https://doi.org/10.1021/jp203771c.






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      Well, let's reconstruct that starting from the very right side, where it says a $ce{C_6H_5}$. The ring and the $ce{CO}$ group would be a benzaldehyde if it had an $ce{H}$ instead of an $ce{N}$, right? Or a benzoic acid if it was $ce{OH}$ instead of $ce{N}$. So what would it be if it had an $ce{NH_2}$-group? It would be a benzamide. If the $ce{N}$ is substituted with for example a chloride we call that N-chlorobenzamide. And now we have another $ce{N}$-centered ligand, the second phenyl ring. The ring has three positions, the one where it's connected to the rest of the molecule would be 1, so that makes a 2,4-dichlorophenyl.



      Summarizing we get N-chloro-N-(2,4-dichlorophenyl)benzamide






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        $begingroup$

        Well, let's reconstruct that starting from the very right side, where it says a $ce{C_6H_5}$. The ring and the $ce{CO}$ group would be a benzaldehyde if it had an $ce{H}$ instead of an $ce{N}$, right? Or a benzoic acid if it was $ce{OH}$ instead of $ce{N}$. So what would it be if it had an $ce{NH_2}$-group? It would be a benzamide. If the $ce{N}$ is substituted with for example a chloride we call that N-chlorobenzamide. And now we have another $ce{N}$-centered ligand, the second phenyl ring. The ring has three positions, the one where it's connected to the rest of the molecule would be 1, so that makes a 2,4-dichlorophenyl.



        Summarizing we get N-chloro-N-(2,4-dichlorophenyl)benzamide






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          Well, let's reconstruct that starting from the very right side, where it says a $ce{C_6H_5}$. The ring and the $ce{CO}$ group would be a benzaldehyde if it had an $ce{H}$ instead of an $ce{N}$, right? Or a benzoic acid if it was $ce{OH}$ instead of $ce{N}$. So what would it be if it had an $ce{NH_2}$-group? It would be a benzamide. If the $ce{N}$ is substituted with for example a chloride we call that N-chlorobenzamide. And now we have another $ce{N}$-centered ligand, the second phenyl ring. The ring has three positions, the one where it's connected to the rest of the molecule would be 1, so that makes a 2,4-dichlorophenyl.



          Summarizing we get N-chloro-N-(2,4-dichlorophenyl)benzamide






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          Well, let's reconstruct that starting from the very right side, where it says a $ce{C_6H_5}$. The ring and the $ce{CO}$ group would be a benzaldehyde if it had an $ce{H}$ instead of an $ce{N}$, right? Or a benzoic acid if it was $ce{OH}$ instead of $ce{N}$. So what would it be if it had an $ce{NH_2}$-group? It would be a benzamide. If the $ce{N}$ is substituted with for example a chloride we call that N-chlorobenzamide. And now we have another $ce{N}$-centered ligand, the second phenyl ring. The ring has three positions, the one where it's connected to the rest of the molecule would be 1, so that makes a 2,4-dichlorophenyl.



          Summarizing we get N-chloro-N-(2,4-dichlorophenyl)benzamide







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              There is a paper [1] reporting a structural investigation of aromatic N-chloroamides.
              They investigated polymorphs of similar compound they refer to as N-chloro-N-phenylbenzamide:




              enter image description here




              Chlorinated product, I suspect, is indeed is going to be named N‐chloro‐N‐(2,4‐dichlorophenyl)benzamide, as the first answer suggested.



              References




              1. Naumov, P.; Topcu, Y.; Eckert-Maksić, M.; Glasovac, Z.; Pavošević, F.; Kochunnoonny, M.; Hara, H. Photoinduced Rearrangement of Aromatic N-Chloroamides to Chloroaromatic Amides in the Solid State: Inverted $Π_ce{N}–Σ_ce{N}$ Occupational Stability of Amidyl Radicals. The Journal of Physical Chemistry A 2011, 115 (26), 7834–7848. https://doi.org/10.1021/jp203771c.






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                There is a paper [1] reporting a structural investigation of aromatic N-chloroamides.
                They investigated polymorphs of similar compound they refer to as N-chloro-N-phenylbenzamide:




                enter image description here




                Chlorinated product, I suspect, is indeed is going to be named N‐chloro‐N‐(2,4‐dichlorophenyl)benzamide, as the first answer suggested.



                References




                1. Naumov, P.; Topcu, Y.; Eckert-Maksić, M.; Glasovac, Z.; Pavošević, F.; Kochunnoonny, M.; Hara, H. Photoinduced Rearrangement of Aromatic N-Chloroamides to Chloroaromatic Amides in the Solid State: Inverted $Π_ce{N}–Σ_ce{N}$ Occupational Stability of Amidyl Radicals. The Journal of Physical Chemistry A 2011, 115 (26), 7834–7848. https://doi.org/10.1021/jp203771c.






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                  There is a paper [1] reporting a structural investigation of aromatic N-chloroamides.
                  They investigated polymorphs of similar compound they refer to as N-chloro-N-phenylbenzamide:




                  enter image description here




                  Chlorinated product, I suspect, is indeed is going to be named N‐chloro‐N‐(2,4‐dichlorophenyl)benzamide, as the first answer suggested.



                  References




                  1. Naumov, P.; Topcu, Y.; Eckert-Maksić, M.; Glasovac, Z.; Pavošević, F.; Kochunnoonny, M.; Hara, H. Photoinduced Rearrangement of Aromatic N-Chloroamides to Chloroaromatic Amides in the Solid State: Inverted $Π_ce{N}–Σ_ce{N}$ Occupational Stability of Amidyl Radicals. The Journal of Physical Chemistry A 2011, 115 (26), 7834–7848. https://doi.org/10.1021/jp203771c.






                  share|improve this answer









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                  There is a paper [1] reporting a structural investigation of aromatic N-chloroamides.
                  They investigated polymorphs of similar compound they refer to as N-chloro-N-phenylbenzamide:




                  enter image description here




                  Chlorinated product, I suspect, is indeed is going to be named N‐chloro‐N‐(2,4‐dichlorophenyl)benzamide, as the first answer suggested.



                  References




                  1. Naumov, P.; Topcu, Y.; Eckert-Maksić, M.; Glasovac, Z.; Pavošević, F.; Kochunnoonny, M.; Hara, H. Photoinduced Rearrangement of Aromatic N-Chloroamides to Chloroaromatic Amides in the Solid State: Inverted $Π_ce{N}–Σ_ce{N}$ Occupational Stability of Amidyl Radicals. The Journal of Physical Chemistry A 2011, 115 (26), 7834–7848. https://doi.org/10.1021/jp203771c.







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