A Magical Cryptography Puzzle
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The following is the first and second sentences of one of my favorite (and fairly popular) fantasy books encoded in a cipher I created a few years ago. I'm quite certain it's breakable, but hints/more sample text may be needed to solve it. Partial solutions are welcome. Good luck!
jrimmataFFynwqephsUKhyjfcdozAZkgtwaemiPAckhvsbgmdkrxjaiwFAhorvycnntfAKsrafwwopxdPUmeokhieuKFpstuyxjzmdCAAAidfeidkpdwMAzzopxamckjihnpZZpfdhdfFAgwkycztyGAydhvxlsiZAdntsjwwioeFKdgixAApzbathfeedUFdithrrepoxclibswllPPyxcbkktdFZhlzpadusjaictusfUAodowAPynmgefccKUhorqtkdcZZedwvyuyyUPryyfcieaAAssofshexZKppmjfzejAUzgcsorhmAUbrehdrdajmncFUikkersxgicbbKAjxcvokAAwyzphnUUvfjkraaaaoiitpPPerzlAUtxwbezAAaailmxIAwhufdlspxxZV
Bonus if you can determine the book's title from its first couple sentences.
Hint 1: (and this is a big one!)
This cipher uses two 5x5 Polybius grids of my own creation. See here for a sample grid. One of them is used somewhat rarely in this text, but it is QUITE obvious when.
cipher cryptography
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The following is the first and second sentences of one of my favorite (and fairly popular) fantasy books encoded in a cipher I created a few years ago. I'm quite certain it's breakable, but hints/more sample text may be needed to solve it. Partial solutions are welcome. Good luck!
jrimmataFFynwqephsUKhyjfcdozAZkgtwaemiPAckhvsbgmdkrxjaiwFAhorvycnntfAKsrafwwopxdPUmeokhieuKFpstuyxjzmdCAAAidfeidkpdwMAzzopxamckjihnpZZpfdhdfFAgwkycztyGAydhvxlsiZAdntsjwwioeFKdgixAApzbathfeedUFdithrrepoxclibswllPPyxcbkktdFZhlzpadusjaictusfUAodowAPynmgefccKUhorqtkdcZZedwvyuyyUPryyfcieaAAssofshexZKppmjfzejAUzgcsorhmAUbrehdrdajmncFUikkersxgicbbKAjxcvokAAwyzphnUUvfjkraaaaoiitpPPerzlAUtxwbezAAaailmxIAwhufdlspxxZV
Bonus if you can determine the book's title from its first couple sentences.
Hint 1: (and this is a big one!)
This cipher uses two 5x5 Polybius grids of my own creation. See here for a sample grid. One of them is used somewhat rarely in this text, but it is QUITE obvious when.
cipher cryptography
asked Jan 12 at 1:00
Brandon_JBrandon_J
79621
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This question has an open bounty worth +50
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This question has not received enough attention.
This is my first time putting a bounty on my own question, and I think it's worth it, considering how much time I put into this puzzle ;) The bounty will be awarded to the first complete (including book title) answer. Happy puzzling!
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In the light of Dr Xorile's answer and your comment: Is the passage "... yyUpryyfcieaAAssofshexZmj ..." correct?
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– M Oehm
Jan 14 at 6:43
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@MOehm oh my goodness....well I fixed it. I must have been more tired than I thought last night...er two nights ago. Whatever. Thank you!
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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and quick note to everyone - the second sentence starts with "ydhvxlsi". Everything before that is part of the first sentence.
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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The first few letters look like "jr imm at a" The imm has two "m"s though… Not quite sure about that… maybe the capital are some sort of a key to the next part?
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– Yout Ried
17 hours ago
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@YoutRied Good idea, but not quite the idea. jhbh's comment below is closer.
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– Brandon_J
17 hours ago
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The following is the first and second sentences of one of my favorite (and fairly popular) fantasy books encoded in a cipher I created a few years ago. I'm quite certain it's breakable, but hints/more sample text may be needed to solve it. Partial solutions are welcome. Good luck!
jrimmataFFynwqephsUKhyjfcdozAZkgtwaemiPAckhvsbgmdkrxjaiwFAhorvycnntfAKsrafwwopxdPUmeokhieuKFpstuyxjzmdCAAAidfeidkpdwMAzzopxamckjihnpZZpfdhdfFAgwkycztyGAydhvxlsiZAdntsjwwioeFKdgixAApzbathfeedUFdithrrepoxclibswllPPyxcbkktdFZhlzpadusjaictusfUAodowAPynmgefccKUhorqtkdcZZedwvyuyyUPryyfcieaAAssofshexZKppmjfzejAUzgcsorhmAUbrehdrdajmncFUikkersxgicbbKAjxcvokAAwyzphnUUvfjkraaaaoiitpPPerzlAUtxwbezAAaailmxIAwhufdlspxxZV
Bonus if you can determine the book's title from its first couple sentences.
Hint 1: (and this is a big one!)
This cipher uses two 5x5 Polybius grids of my own creation. See here for a sample grid. One of them is used somewhat rarely in this text, but it is QUITE obvious when.
cipher cryptography
asked Jan 12 at 1:00
Brandon_JBrandon_J
79621
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The following is the first and second sentences of one of my favorite (and fairly popular) fantasy books encoded in a cipher I created a few years ago. I'm quite certain it's breakable, but hints/more sample text may be needed to solve it. Partial solutions are welcome. Good luck!
jrimmataFFynwqephsUKhyjfcdozAZkgtwaemiPAckhvsbgmdkrxjaiwFAhorvycnntfAKsrafwwopxdPUmeokhieuKFpstuyxjzmdCAAAidfeidkpdwMAzzopxamckjihnpZZpfdhdfFAgwkycztyGAydhvxlsiZAdntsjwwioeFKdgixAApzbathfeedUFdithrrepoxclibswllPPyxcbkktdFZhlzpadusjaictusfUAodowAPynmgefccKUhorqtkdcZZedwvyuyyUPryyfcieaAAssofshexZKppmjfzejAUzgcsorhmAUbrehdrdajmncFUikkersxgicbbKAjxcvokAAwyzphnUUvfjkraaaaoiitpPPerzlAUtxwbezAAaailmxIAwhufdlspxxZV
Bonus if you can determine the book's title from its first couple sentences.
Hint 1: (and this is a big one!)
This cipher uses two 5x5 Polybius grids of my own creation. See here for a sample grid. One of them is used somewhat rarely in this text, but it is QUITE obvious when.
cipher cryptography
cipher cryptography
asked Jan 12 at 1:00
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asked Jan 12 at 1:00
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Brandon_J
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This question has an open bounty worth +50
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This question has not received enough attention.
This is my first time putting a bounty on my own question, and I think it's worth it, considering how much time I put into this puzzle ;) The bounty will be awarded to the first complete (including book title) answer. Happy puzzling!
This question has an open bounty worth +50
reputation from Brandon_J ending in 7 days.
This question has not received enough attention.
This is my first time putting a bounty on my own question, and I think it's worth it, considering how much time I put into this puzzle ;) The bounty will be awarded to the first complete (including book title) answer. Happy puzzling!
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In the light of Dr Xorile's answer and your comment: Is the passage "... yyUpryyfcieaAAssofshexZmj ..." correct?
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– M Oehm
Jan 14 at 6:43
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@MOehm oh my goodness....well I fixed it. I must have been more tired than I thought last night...er two nights ago. Whatever. Thank you!
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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and quick note to everyone - the second sentence starts with "ydhvxlsi". Everything before that is part of the first sentence.
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– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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The first few letters look like "jr imm at a" The imm has two "m"s though… Not quite sure about that… maybe the capital are some sort of a key to the next part?
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– Yout Ried
17 hours ago
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@YoutRied Good idea, but not quite the idea. jhbh's comment below is closer.
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– Brandon_J
17 hours ago
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In the light of Dr Xorile's answer and your comment: Is the passage "... yyUpryyfcieaAAssofshexZmj ..." correct?
$endgroup$
– M Oehm
Jan 14 at 6:43
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@MOehm oh my goodness....well I fixed it. I must have been more tired than I thought last night...er two nights ago. Whatever. Thank you!
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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and quick note to everyone - the second sentence starts with "ydhvxlsi". Everything before that is part of the first sentence.
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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The first few letters look like "jr imm at a" The imm has two "m"s though… Not quite sure about that… maybe the capital are some sort of a key to the next part?
$endgroup$
– Yout Ried
17 hours ago
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@YoutRied Good idea, but not quite the idea. jhbh's comment below is closer.
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
17 hours ago
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In the light of Dr Xorile's answer and your comment: Is the passage "... yyUpryyfcieaAAssofshexZmj ..." correct?
$endgroup$
– M Oehm
Jan 14 at 6:43
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In the light of Dr Xorile's answer and your comment: Is the passage "... yyUpryyfcieaAAssofshexZmj ..." correct?
$endgroup$
– M Oehm
Jan 14 at 6:43
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@MOehm oh my goodness....well I fixed it. I must have been more tired than I thought last night...er two nights ago. Whatever. Thank you!
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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@MOehm oh my goodness....well I fixed it. I must have been more tired than I thought last night...er two nights ago. Whatever. Thank you!
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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and quick note to everyone - the second sentence starts with "ydhvxlsi". Everything before that is part of the first sentence.
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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and quick note to everyone - the second sentence starts with "ydhvxlsi". Everything before that is part of the first sentence.
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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The first few letters look like "jr imm at a" The imm has two "m"s though… Not quite sure about that… maybe the capital are some sort of a key to the next part?
$endgroup$
– Yout Ried
17 hours ago
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The first few letters look like "jr imm at a" The imm has two "m"s though… Not quite sure about that… maybe the capital are some sort of a key to the next part?
$endgroup$
– Yout Ried
17 hours ago
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@YoutRied Good idea, but not quite the idea. jhbh's comment below is closer.
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– Brandon_J
17 hours ago
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@YoutRied Good idea, but not quite the idea. jhbh's comment below is closer.
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– Brandon_J
17 hours ago
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A few observations (nowhere near a solution):
The letters come in pairs, with occasional pairs of upper case letter. The letter pairs are almost unique. "AF" comes up twice, as does "di" and "po". If you don't worry about case then you can include "po"/"PO" and "am"/"AM". Ah ha, you say. You've got them all reversed. True. I reversed the code because then it looks like words in CamelCase. But with double letters.
None of which gets me anywhere, I'm afraid...
answered Jan 12 at 2:11
Dr XorileDr Xorile
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Rot13(Cnvef vf pbeerpg. Erirefvat gur zrffntr (be nal fbeg bs genafcbfvgvba) jvyy trg lbh abjurer.)
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– Brandon_J
Jan 12 at 2:14
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Rot13(vg ybbxf yvxr pncvgnyvmrq cnvef ner chapghngvba fhpu nf fcnprf naq crevbqf)
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– jhbh
yesterday
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@jhbh on the right track!
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– Brandon_J
yesterday
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A few observations (nowhere near a solution):
The letters come in pairs, with occasional pairs of upper case letter. The letter pairs are almost unique. "AF" comes up twice, as does "di" and "po". If you don't worry about case then you can include "po"/"PO" and "am"/"AM". Ah ha, you say. You've got them all reversed. True. I reversed the code because then it looks like words in CamelCase. But with double letters.
None of which gets me anywhere, I'm afraid...
answered Jan 12 at 2:11
Dr XorileDr Xorile
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Rot13(Cnvef vf pbeerpg. Erirefvat gur zrffntr (be nal fbeg bs genafcbfvgvba) jvyy trg lbh abjurer.)
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– Brandon_J
Jan 12 at 2:14
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Rot13(vg ybbxf yvxr pncvgnyvmrq cnvef ner chapghngvba fhpu nf fcnprf naq crevbqf)
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– jhbh
yesterday
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@jhbh on the right track!
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– Brandon_J
yesterday
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A few observations (nowhere near a solution):
The letters come in pairs, with occasional pairs of upper case letter. The letter pairs are almost unique. "AF" comes up twice, as does "di" and "po". If you don't worry about case then you can include "po"/"PO" and "am"/"AM". Ah ha, you say. You've got them all reversed. True. I reversed the code because then it looks like words in CamelCase. But with double letters.
None of which gets me anywhere, I'm afraid...
answered Jan 12 at 2:11
Dr XorileDr Xorile
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Rot13(Cnvef vf pbeerpg. Erirefvat gur zrffntr (be nal fbeg bs genafcbfvgvba) jvyy trg lbh abjurer.)
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– Brandon_J
Jan 12 at 2:14
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Rot13(vg ybbxf yvxr pncvgnyvmrq cnvef ner chapghngvba fhpu nf fcnprf naq crevbqf)
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– jhbh
yesterday
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@jhbh on the right track!
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– Brandon_J
yesterday
add a comment |
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A few observations (nowhere near a solution):
The letters come in pairs, with occasional pairs of upper case letter. The letter pairs are almost unique. "AF" comes up twice, as does "di" and "po". If you don't worry about case then you can include "po"/"PO" and "am"/"AM". Ah ha, you say. You've got them all reversed. True. I reversed the code because then it looks like words in CamelCase. But with double letters.
None of which gets me anywhere, I'm afraid...
answered Jan 12 at 2:11
Dr XorileDr Xorile
11.7k22566
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A few observations (nowhere near a solution):
The letters come in pairs, with occasional pairs of upper case letter. The letter pairs are almost unique. "AF" comes up twice, as does "di" and "po". If you don't worry about case then you can include "po"/"PO" and "am"/"AM". Ah ha, you say. You've got them all reversed. True. I reversed the code because then it looks like words in CamelCase. But with double letters.
None of which gets me anywhere, I'm afraid...
answered Jan 12 at 2:11
Dr XorileDr Xorile
11.7k22566
answered Jan 12 at 2:11
Dr XorileDr Xorile
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answered Jan 12 at 2:11
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answered Jan 12 at 2:11
Dr XorileDr Xorile
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– Brandon_J
Jan 12 at 2:14
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Rot13(vg ybbxf yvxr pncvgnyvmrq cnvef ner chapghngvba fhpu nf fcnprf naq crevbqf)
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– jhbh
yesterday
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@jhbh on the right track!
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yesterday
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Rot13(Cnvef vf pbeerpg. Erirefvat gur zrffntr (be nal fbeg bs genafcbfvgvba) jvyy trg lbh abjurer.)
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– Brandon_J
Jan 12 at 2:14
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Rot13(vg ybbxf yvxr pncvgnyvmrq cnvef ner chapghngvba fhpu nf fcnprf naq crevbqf)
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– jhbh
yesterday
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@jhbh on the right track!
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– Brandon_J
yesterday
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Rot13(Cnvef vf pbeerpg. Erirefvat gur zrffntr (be nal fbeg bs genafcbfvgvba) jvyy trg lbh abjurer.)
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– Brandon_J
Jan 12 at 2:14
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Rot13(Cnvef vf pbeerpg. Erirefvat gur zrffntr (be nal fbeg bs genafcbfvgvba) jvyy trg lbh abjurer.)
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– Brandon_J
Jan 12 at 2:14
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Rot13(vg ybbxf yvxr pncvgnyvmrq cnvef ner chapghngvba fhpu nf fcnprf naq crevbqf)
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– jhbh
yesterday
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Rot13(vg ybbxf yvxr pncvgnyvmrq cnvef ner chapghngvba fhpu nf fcnprf naq crevbqf)
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– jhbh
yesterday
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@jhbh on the right track!
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– Brandon_J
yesterday
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@jhbh on the right track!
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In the light of Dr Xorile's answer and your comment: Is the passage "... yyUpryyfcieaAAssofshexZmj ..." correct?
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– M Oehm
Jan 14 at 6:43
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@MOehm oh my goodness....well I fixed it. I must have been more tired than I thought last night...er two nights ago. Whatever. Thank you!
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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and quick note to everyone - the second sentence starts with "ydhvxlsi". Everything before that is part of the first sentence.
$endgroup$
– Brandon_J
2 days ago
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The first few letters look like "jr imm at a" The imm has two "m"s though… Not quite sure about that… maybe the capital are some sort of a key to the next part?
$endgroup$
– Yout Ried
17 hours ago
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@YoutRied Good idea, but not quite the idea. jhbh's comment below is closer.
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– Brandon_J
17 hours ago