Are these two secret projects the same?
In Captain Marvel, we see that before she lost her memories, Carol Danvers was,
a test pilot for a [secret] government project named Pegasus.
In The Avengers (2012), Loki invades a secret facility and steals the Tesseract from Fury and group. While he leaves the building, I caught a glimpse (screenshot below) with the title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
And since in Captain Marvel,
Project Pegasus was shut down and completely hidden due to the death of the scientist (Mar-Vell) and the pilot (apparently),
the question arises.
Are the two the same project?
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In Captain Marvel, we see that before she lost her memories, Carol Danvers was,
a test pilot for a [secret] government project named Pegasus.
In The Avengers (2012), Loki invades a secret facility and steals the Tesseract from Fury and group. While he leaves the building, I caught a glimpse (screenshot below) with the title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
And since in Captain Marvel,
Project Pegasus was shut down and completely hidden due to the death of the scientist (Mar-Vell) and the pilot (apparently),
the question arises.
Are the two the same project?
marvel marvel-cinematic-universe the-avengers-2012 captain-marvel-2019
edited Mar 13 at 16:39
TheLethalCarrot
46.7k17248296
asked Mar 13 at 16:18
ShreedharShreedhar
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They're both SHIELD projects...
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 16:22
4
There is a comment from Jimmy M. on this answer that might apply to this question, too: "Project PEGASUS is also the name for SHIELD's project in Thor and Avengers were they are experimenting on the Tesseract, indicating this is just the code name SHIELD uses for researching that blue cube. Dr. Lawson wouldn't need to steal it, she became the head researcher for the project (or some other higher-up) and presumably had almost unlimited access to it. SHIELD likely thought it was destroyed in the prototype jet that crashed."
– Remy Lebeau
Mar 13 at 16:28
marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Project_P.E.G.A.S.U.S. - "A prospectus outlining new budgetary allocations will arrive shortly. In keeping with the agency's mandate, the majority of funding, equipment and manpower will be dedicated to analysis of the Tesseract, coded as Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S."
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 17:06
@Valorum I looked at the source for that quote and found it ambiguous for if it meant the project was new or not.
– TheLethalCarrot
Mar 13 at 17:11
In the same wiki is stated that Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson and The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in 1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D., so it implies that it became a SHIELD project AFTER the incident with Lawson. Are there other sources where we can get a better interpretation of this?
– LudovicoN
Mar 13 at 19:29
|
show 2 more comments
In Captain Marvel, we see that before she lost her memories, Carol Danvers was,
a test pilot for a [secret] government project named Pegasus.
In The Avengers (2012), Loki invades a secret facility and steals the Tesseract from Fury and group. While he leaves the building, I caught a glimpse (screenshot below) with the title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
And since in Captain Marvel,
Project Pegasus was shut down and completely hidden due to the death of the scientist (Mar-Vell) and the pilot (apparently),
the question arises.
Are the two the same project?
marvel marvel-cinematic-universe the-avengers-2012 captain-marvel-2019
edited Mar 13 at 16:39
TheLethalCarrot
46.7k17248296
asked Mar 13 at 16:18
ShreedharShreedhar
7,15033586
In Captain Marvel, we see that before she lost her memories, Carol Danvers was,
a test pilot for a [secret] government project named Pegasus.
In The Avengers (2012), Loki invades a secret facility and steals the Tesseract from Fury and group. While he leaves the building, I caught a glimpse (screenshot below) with the title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
And since in Captain Marvel,
Project Pegasus was shut down and completely hidden due to the death of the scientist (Mar-Vell) and the pilot (apparently),
the question arises.
Are the two the same project?
marvel marvel-cinematic-universe the-avengers-2012 captain-marvel-2019
marvel marvel-cinematic-universe the-avengers-2012 captain-marvel-2019
edited Mar 13 at 16:39
TheLethalCarrot
46.7k17248296
asked Mar 13 at 16:18
ShreedharShreedhar
7,15033586
edited Mar 13 at 16:39
TheLethalCarrot
46.7k17248296
asked Mar 13 at 16:18
ShreedharShreedhar
7,15033586
edited Mar 13 at 16:39
TheLethalCarrot
46.7k17248296
edited Mar 13 at 16:39
TheLethalCarrot
46.7k17248296
edited Mar 13 at 16:39
TheLethalCarrot
46.7k17248296
46.7k17248296
asked Mar 13 at 16:18
ShreedharShreedhar
7,15033586
asked Mar 13 at 16:18
ShreedharShreedhar
7,15033586
asked Mar 13 at 16:18
ShreedharShreedhar
7,15033586
7,15033586
4
They're both SHIELD projects...
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 16:22
4
There is a comment from Jimmy M. on this answer that might apply to this question, too: "Project PEGASUS is also the name for SHIELD's project in Thor and Avengers were they are experimenting on the Tesseract, indicating this is just the code name SHIELD uses for researching that blue cube. Dr. Lawson wouldn't need to steal it, she became the head researcher for the project (or some other higher-up) and presumably had almost unlimited access to it. SHIELD likely thought it was destroyed in the prototype jet that crashed."
– Remy Lebeau
Mar 13 at 16:28
marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Project_P.E.G.A.S.U.S. - "A prospectus outlining new budgetary allocations will arrive shortly. In keeping with the agency's mandate, the majority of funding, equipment and manpower will be dedicated to analysis of the Tesseract, coded as Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S."
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 17:06
@Valorum I looked at the source for that quote and found it ambiguous for if it meant the project was new or not.
– TheLethalCarrot
Mar 13 at 17:11
In the same wiki is stated that Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson and The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in 1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D., so it implies that it became a SHIELD project AFTER the incident with Lawson. Are there other sources where we can get a better interpretation of this?
– LudovicoN
Mar 13 at 19:29
|
show 2 more comments
4
They're both SHIELD projects...
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 16:22
4
There is a comment from Jimmy M. on this answer that might apply to this question, too: "Project PEGASUS is also the name for SHIELD's project in Thor and Avengers were they are experimenting on the Tesseract, indicating this is just the code name SHIELD uses for researching that blue cube. Dr. Lawson wouldn't need to steal it, she became the head researcher for the project (or some other higher-up) and presumably had almost unlimited access to it. SHIELD likely thought it was destroyed in the prototype jet that crashed."
– Remy Lebeau
Mar 13 at 16:28
marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Project_P.E.G.A.S.U.S. - "A prospectus outlining new budgetary allocations will arrive shortly. In keeping with the agency's mandate, the majority of funding, equipment and manpower will be dedicated to analysis of the Tesseract, coded as Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S."
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 17:06
@Valorum I looked at the source for that quote and found it ambiguous for if it meant the project was new or not.
– TheLethalCarrot
Mar 13 at 17:11
In the same wiki is stated that Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson and The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in 1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D., so it implies that it became a SHIELD project AFTER the incident with Lawson. Are there other sources where we can get a better interpretation of this?
– LudovicoN
Mar 13 at 19:29
4
4
They're both SHIELD projects...
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 16:22
They're both SHIELD projects...
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 16:22
4
4
There is a comment from Jimmy M. on this answer that might apply to this question, too: "Project PEGASUS is also the name for SHIELD's project in Thor and Avengers were they are experimenting on the Tesseract, indicating this is just the code name SHIELD uses for researching that blue cube. Dr. Lawson wouldn't need to steal it, she became the head researcher for the project (or some other higher-up) and presumably had almost unlimited access to it. SHIELD likely thought it was destroyed in the prototype jet that crashed."
– Remy Lebeau
Mar 13 at 16:28
There is a comment from Jimmy M. on this answer that might apply to this question, too: "Project PEGASUS is also the name for SHIELD's project in Thor and Avengers were they are experimenting on the Tesseract, indicating this is just the code name SHIELD uses for researching that blue cube. Dr. Lawson wouldn't need to steal it, she became the head researcher for the project (or some other higher-up) and presumably had almost unlimited access to it. SHIELD likely thought it was destroyed in the prototype jet that crashed."
– Remy Lebeau
Mar 13 at 16:28
marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Project_P.E.G.A.S.U.S. - "A prospectus outlining new budgetary allocations will arrive shortly. In keeping with the agency's mandate, the majority of funding, equipment and manpower will be dedicated to analysis of the Tesseract, coded as Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S."
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 17:06
marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Project_P.E.G.A.S.U.S. - "A prospectus outlining new budgetary allocations will arrive shortly. In keeping with the agency's mandate, the majority of funding, equipment and manpower will be dedicated to analysis of the Tesseract, coded as Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S."
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 17:06
@Valorum I looked at the source for that quote and found it ambiguous for if it meant the project was new or not.
– TheLethalCarrot
Mar 13 at 17:11
@Valorum I looked at the source for that quote and found it ambiguous for if it meant the project was new or not.
– TheLethalCarrot
Mar 13 at 17:11
In the same wiki is stated that Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson and The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in 1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D., so it implies that it became a SHIELD project AFTER the incident with Lawson. Are there other sources where we can get a better interpretation of this?
– LudovicoN
Mar 13 at 19:29
In the same wiki is stated that Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson and The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in 1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D., so it implies that it became a SHIELD project AFTER the incident with Lawson. Are there other sources where we can get a better interpretation of this?
– LudovicoN
Mar 13 at 19:29
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According to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, the Project Pegasus in Captain Marvel represents an earlier stage of the same general endeavor as that shown in the first Avengers film (and mentioned in Iron Man 2):
"P.E.G.A.S.U.S. was name dropped ... in Iron Man 2, then it's also at the top of Avengers 1," said Feige. "And it was early on tying her into that early MCU. What do we know about the period of the MCU in the years before Iron Man? Well, the Tesseract and P.E.G.A.S.U.S. were part of it. And then also you're seeing another side of that same facility was interesting."
Source: comicbook.com interview March 8, 2019
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This is an interpretation based on actual facts from the movies, you can recheck them and burn me in the stake if I'm wrong, but please do it so based on similar data.
Project PEGASUS might have the same name and be in the same facility, but in Captain Marvel is NOT a SHIELD Project.
1. In Captain Marvel Movie we see that:
SHIELD is aware of Project PEGASUS. In the movie Nick Fury says Pegasus location is classified. However, his low security clearance is enough for him to know where it is.
At the gate he identifies as a SHIELD Agent, he is not saying "this is Agent Fury" he is saying: "Nicholas Joseph Fury, Agent of SHIELD", this may be an overstretch but one can imply from this that he is from an agency that is external to PEGASUS.
It's not easy to get a picture, but around minute 43 they arrive at the actual base and we see in the screen this title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
JOINT NASA USAF FACILITY
Not SHIELD-NASA, but USAF-NASA
When they're in, there's not a single SHIELD scientist or agent in sight and they're received by military personnel. Then they are being kept waiting and decide to look for themselves, that's when Fury sends a beeper message to SHIELD asking to come and help them. If this were a SHIELD base they would be surrounded by agents in less than 5 minutes, since... it's a SHIELD base. But they're not.
One can also think that being a SHIELD Project there's no need to go look for intel since they already have it... unless this is a top secret undercover HYDRA base that nobody knows about (like the one in Captain America: The Winter Soldier) or from another entity (like the Guesthouse in Agents of SHIELD). But this is a simple government research facility accesed also by NASA which is already known to a Level 3 Security Agent like Fury.
2. Differences with Avengers Movie:
Another detail is that in Avengers, Project Pegasus is oficially looking for new energy sources (though they're really making weapons, as Captain America discovers later in the movie), while in Captain Marvel Project Pegasus is developing new aircraft (which makes more plausible the participation of the US Air Force).
3. The Avengers Prelude
My take, based on The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week is that this project was ditched by the Air Force, taken by the World Security Council and reassigned to SHIELD, with an entirely new objective (they even threw away the logos).
Other Sources that may support my observations:
mcufandom wikia page for Project Pegasus says that:
Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint
NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson. The goal of
the project was studying the Tesseract in order to build the
Light-Speed Engine. The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in
1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D.,
to continue experiments on the Tesseract, until the actions
perpetrated by Loki rendered the project defunct.
answered 2 days ago
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According to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, the Project Pegasus in Captain Marvel represents an earlier stage of the same general endeavor as that shown in the first Avengers film (and mentioned in Iron Man 2):
"P.E.G.A.S.U.S. was name dropped ... in Iron Man 2, then it's also at the top of Avengers 1," said Feige. "And it was early on tying her into that early MCU. What do we know about the period of the MCU in the years before Iron Man? Well, the Tesseract and P.E.G.A.S.U.S. were part of it. And then also you're seeing another side of that same facility was interesting."
Source: comicbook.com interview March 8, 2019
answered Mar 14 at 0:30
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According to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, the Project Pegasus in Captain Marvel represents an earlier stage of the same general endeavor as that shown in the first Avengers film (and mentioned in Iron Man 2):
"P.E.G.A.S.U.S. was name dropped ... in Iron Man 2, then it's also at the top of Avengers 1," said Feige. "And it was early on tying her into that early MCU. What do we know about the period of the MCU in the years before Iron Man? Well, the Tesseract and P.E.G.A.S.U.S. were part of it. And then also you're seeing another side of that same facility was interesting."
Source: comicbook.com interview March 8, 2019
answered Mar 14 at 0:30
RobRob
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According to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, the Project Pegasus in Captain Marvel represents an earlier stage of the same general endeavor as that shown in the first Avengers film (and mentioned in Iron Man 2):
"P.E.G.A.S.U.S. was name dropped ... in Iron Man 2, then it's also at the top of Avengers 1," said Feige. "And it was early on tying her into that early MCU. What do we know about the period of the MCU in the years before Iron Man? Well, the Tesseract and P.E.G.A.S.U.S. were part of it. And then also you're seeing another side of that same facility was interesting."
Source: comicbook.com interview March 8, 2019
answered Mar 14 at 0:30
RobRob
821411
According to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, the Project Pegasus in Captain Marvel represents an earlier stage of the same general endeavor as that shown in the first Avengers film (and mentioned in Iron Man 2):
"P.E.G.A.S.U.S. was name dropped ... in Iron Man 2, then it's also at the top of Avengers 1," said Feige. "And it was early on tying her into that early MCU. What do we know about the period of the MCU in the years before Iron Man? Well, the Tesseract and P.E.G.A.S.U.S. were part of it. And then also you're seeing another side of that same facility was interesting."
Source: comicbook.com interview March 8, 2019
answered Mar 14 at 0:30
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answered Mar 14 at 0:30
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This is an interpretation based on actual facts from the movies, you can recheck them and burn me in the stake if I'm wrong, but please do it so based on similar data.
Project PEGASUS might have the same name and be in the same facility, but in Captain Marvel is NOT a SHIELD Project.
1. In Captain Marvel Movie we see that:
SHIELD is aware of Project PEGASUS. In the movie Nick Fury says Pegasus location is classified. However, his low security clearance is enough for him to know where it is.
At the gate he identifies as a SHIELD Agent, he is not saying "this is Agent Fury" he is saying: "Nicholas Joseph Fury, Agent of SHIELD", this may be an overstretch but one can imply from this that he is from an agency that is external to PEGASUS.
It's not easy to get a picture, but around minute 43 they arrive at the actual base and we see in the screen this title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
JOINT NASA USAF FACILITY
Not SHIELD-NASA, but USAF-NASA
When they're in, there's not a single SHIELD scientist or agent in sight and they're received by military personnel. Then they are being kept waiting and decide to look for themselves, that's when Fury sends a beeper message to SHIELD asking to come and help them. If this were a SHIELD base they would be surrounded by agents in less than 5 minutes, since... it's a SHIELD base. But they're not.
One can also think that being a SHIELD Project there's no need to go look for intel since they already have it... unless this is a top secret undercover HYDRA base that nobody knows about (like the one in Captain America: The Winter Soldier) or from another entity (like the Guesthouse in Agents of SHIELD). But this is a simple government research facility accesed also by NASA which is already known to a Level 3 Security Agent like Fury.
2. Differences with Avengers Movie:
Another detail is that in Avengers, Project Pegasus is oficially looking for new energy sources (though they're really making weapons, as Captain America discovers later in the movie), while in Captain Marvel Project Pegasus is developing new aircraft (which makes more plausible the participation of the US Air Force).
3. The Avengers Prelude
My take, based on The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week is that this project was ditched by the Air Force, taken by the World Security Council and reassigned to SHIELD, with an entirely new objective (they even threw away the logos).
Other Sources that may support my observations:
mcufandom wikia page for Project Pegasus says that:
Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint
NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson. The goal of
the project was studying the Tesseract in order to build the
Light-Speed Engine. The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in
1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D.,
to continue experiments on the Tesseract, until the actions
perpetrated by Loki rendered the project defunct.
answered 2 days ago
LudovicoNLudovicoN
50612
add a comment |
This is an interpretation based on actual facts from the movies, you can recheck them and burn me in the stake if I'm wrong, but please do it so based on similar data.
Project PEGASUS might have the same name and be in the same facility, but in Captain Marvel is NOT a SHIELD Project.
1. In Captain Marvel Movie we see that:
SHIELD is aware of Project PEGASUS. In the movie Nick Fury says Pegasus location is classified. However, his low security clearance is enough for him to know where it is.
At the gate he identifies as a SHIELD Agent, he is not saying "this is Agent Fury" he is saying: "Nicholas Joseph Fury, Agent of SHIELD", this may be an overstretch but one can imply from this that he is from an agency that is external to PEGASUS.
It's not easy to get a picture, but around minute 43 they arrive at the actual base and we see in the screen this title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
JOINT NASA USAF FACILITY
Not SHIELD-NASA, but USAF-NASA
When they're in, there's not a single SHIELD scientist or agent in sight and they're received by military personnel. Then they are being kept waiting and decide to look for themselves, that's when Fury sends a beeper message to SHIELD asking to come and help them. If this were a SHIELD base they would be surrounded by agents in less than 5 minutes, since... it's a SHIELD base. But they're not.
One can also think that being a SHIELD Project there's no need to go look for intel since they already have it... unless this is a top secret undercover HYDRA base that nobody knows about (like the one in Captain America: The Winter Soldier) or from another entity (like the Guesthouse in Agents of SHIELD). But this is a simple government research facility accesed also by NASA which is already known to a Level 3 Security Agent like Fury.
2. Differences with Avengers Movie:
Another detail is that in Avengers, Project Pegasus is oficially looking for new energy sources (though they're really making weapons, as Captain America discovers later in the movie), while in Captain Marvel Project Pegasus is developing new aircraft (which makes more plausible the participation of the US Air Force).
3. The Avengers Prelude
My take, based on The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week is that this project was ditched by the Air Force, taken by the World Security Council and reassigned to SHIELD, with an entirely new objective (they even threw away the logos).
Other Sources that may support my observations:
mcufandom wikia page for Project Pegasus says that:
Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint
NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson. The goal of
the project was studying the Tesseract in order to build the
Light-Speed Engine. The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in
1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D.,
to continue experiments on the Tesseract, until the actions
perpetrated by Loki rendered the project defunct.
answered 2 days ago
LudovicoNLudovicoN
50612
add a comment |
This is an interpretation based on actual facts from the movies, you can recheck them and burn me in the stake if I'm wrong, but please do it so based on similar data.
Project PEGASUS might have the same name and be in the same facility, but in Captain Marvel is NOT a SHIELD Project.
1. In Captain Marvel Movie we see that:
SHIELD is aware of Project PEGASUS. In the movie Nick Fury says Pegasus location is classified. However, his low security clearance is enough for him to know where it is.
At the gate he identifies as a SHIELD Agent, he is not saying "this is Agent Fury" he is saying: "Nicholas Joseph Fury, Agent of SHIELD", this may be an overstretch but one can imply from this that he is from an agency that is external to PEGASUS.
It's not easy to get a picture, but around minute 43 they arrive at the actual base and we see in the screen this title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
JOINT NASA USAF FACILITY
Not SHIELD-NASA, but USAF-NASA
When they're in, there's not a single SHIELD scientist or agent in sight and they're received by military personnel. Then they are being kept waiting and decide to look for themselves, that's when Fury sends a beeper message to SHIELD asking to come and help them. If this were a SHIELD base they would be surrounded by agents in less than 5 minutes, since... it's a SHIELD base. But they're not.
One can also think that being a SHIELD Project there's no need to go look for intel since they already have it... unless this is a top secret undercover HYDRA base that nobody knows about (like the one in Captain America: The Winter Soldier) or from another entity (like the Guesthouse in Agents of SHIELD). But this is a simple government research facility accesed also by NASA which is already known to a Level 3 Security Agent like Fury.
2. Differences with Avengers Movie:
Another detail is that in Avengers, Project Pegasus is oficially looking for new energy sources (though they're really making weapons, as Captain America discovers later in the movie), while in Captain Marvel Project Pegasus is developing new aircraft (which makes more plausible the participation of the US Air Force).
3. The Avengers Prelude
My take, based on The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week is that this project was ditched by the Air Force, taken by the World Security Council and reassigned to SHIELD, with an entirely new objective (they even threw away the logos).
Other Sources that may support my observations:
mcufandom wikia page for Project Pegasus says that:
Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint
NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson. The goal of
the project was studying the Tesseract in order to build the
Light-Speed Engine. The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in
1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D.,
to continue experiments on the Tesseract, until the actions
perpetrated by Loki rendered the project defunct.
answered 2 days ago
LudovicoNLudovicoN
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This is an interpretation based on actual facts from the movies, you can recheck them and burn me in the stake if I'm wrong, but please do it so based on similar data.
Project PEGASUS might have the same name and be in the same facility, but in Captain Marvel is NOT a SHIELD Project.
1. In Captain Marvel Movie we see that:
SHIELD is aware of Project PEGASUS. In the movie Nick Fury says Pegasus location is classified. However, his low security clearance is enough for him to know where it is.
At the gate he identifies as a SHIELD Agent, he is not saying "this is Agent Fury" he is saying: "Nicholas Joseph Fury, Agent of SHIELD", this may be an overstretch but one can imply from this that he is from an agency that is external to PEGASUS.
It's not easy to get a picture, but around minute 43 they arrive at the actual base and we see in the screen this title:
PROJECT PEGASUS
JOINT NASA USAF FACILITY
Not SHIELD-NASA, but USAF-NASA
When they're in, there's not a single SHIELD scientist or agent in sight and they're received by military personnel. Then they are being kept waiting and decide to look for themselves, that's when Fury sends a beeper message to SHIELD asking to come and help them. If this were a SHIELD base they would be surrounded by agents in less than 5 minutes, since... it's a SHIELD base. But they're not.
One can also think that being a SHIELD Project there's no need to go look for intel since they already have it... unless this is a top secret undercover HYDRA base that nobody knows about (like the one in Captain America: The Winter Soldier) or from another entity (like the Guesthouse in Agents of SHIELD). But this is a simple government research facility accesed also by NASA which is already known to a Level 3 Security Agent like Fury.
2. Differences with Avengers Movie:
Another detail is that in Avengers, Project Pegasus is oficially looking for new energy sources (though they're really making weapons, as Captain America discovers later in the movie), while in Captain Marvel Project Pegasus is developing new aircraft (which makes more plausible the participation of the US Air Force).
3. The Avengers Prelude
My take, based on The Avengers Prelude: Fury's Big Week is that this project was ditched by the Air Force, taken by the World Security Council and reassigned to SHIELD, with an entirely new objective (they even threw away the logos).
Other Sources that may support my observations:
mcufandom wikia page for Project Pegasus says that:
Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint
NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson. The goal of
the project was studying the Tesseract in order to build the
Light-Speed Engine. The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in
1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D.,
to continue experiments on the Tesseract, until the actions
perpetrated by Loki rendered the project defunct.
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They're both SHIELD projects...
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 16:22
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There is a comment from Jimmy M. on this answer that might apply to this question, too: "Project PEGASUS is also the name for SHIELD's project in Thor and Avengers were they are experimenting on the Tesseract, indicating this is just the code name SHIELD uses for researching that blue cube. Dr. Lawson wouldn't need to steal it, she became the head researcher for the project (or some other higher-up) and presumably had almost unlimited access to it. SHIELD likely thought it was destroyed in the prototype jet that crashed."
– Remy Lebeau
Mar 13 at 16:28
marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Project_P.E.G.A.S.U.S. - "A prospectus outlining new budgetary allocations will arrive shortly. In keeping with the agency's mandate, the majority of funding, equipment and manpower will be dedicated to analysis of the Tesseract, coded as Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S."
– Valorum
Mar 13 at 17:06
@Valorum I looked at the source for that quote and found it ambiguous for if it meant the project was new or not.
– TheLethalCarrot
Mar 13 at 17:11
In the same wiki is stated that Project P.E.G.A.S.U.S. (or Pegasus) was the name of the joint NASA-United States Air Force project run by Wendy Lawson and The Project was shut down upon Lawson's death in 1989 and restarted by the World Security Council and S.H.I.E.L.D., so it implies that it became a SHIELD project AFTER the incident with Lawson. Are there other sources where we can get a better interpretation of this?
– LudovicoN
Mar 13 at 19:29